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|Islam for Muslims / Re: Is CAN related to Boko Haraam? by tiarabubu: 10:29pm On May 18|
tbaba1234: Let's be careful about stories of this kind. It serves no purpose, the country is volatile enough.
Yea, it serves no purpose cause its clearly a fabricated lie abinitio. But knowing Nigerians, it'll would have gone round Nigeria multiple times soon enough.
|Islam for Muslims / Re: Is CAN related to Boko Haraam? by tiarabubu: 10:14pm On May 18|
So true. The blame/rumor game doesn't solve anything. The North has all it takes to be better than our wildest imaginations by far....if only the focus is on the right things.
|Islam for Muslims / Re: Is CAN related to Boko Haraam? by tiarabubu: 10:10pm On May 18|
This is the most ludicrous story I heard in a longggggg time! So after THIRTY YEARS nobody followed through this allegation either in Nigeria (by no less a person than the Emir of Kano )or Cameroon (where Marwa was known to roam to) this story is now floating around in the midst of another insurgency! How convenient!
If the Emir of Kano had known that Maitastine collected goods from the vatican and set up a movement that KILLED MUSLIMS would he truly have kept quiet? Is he a traitor to the Ummah? Does he love Maitastine enough to keep quiet when the then head of state was BUHARI and then BABANGIDA and then ABACHA then ABDULSALAMI (all Muslims). Are they TRAITORS to the Ummah too?
Whao! Somebody's got to try harder!
|Islam for Muslims / Re: It's Time To Face Up To The Problem Of intimate Abuse In The White Community by tiarabubu: 4:00pm On May 15|
How society treats a problem somewhat defined them as a people. One society acknowledges the problem and acts in a robust manner and welcomes public discourse, the other looks the other way. Are we to see the two in the same light?
And a similarly linked point; maybe he should write a satirical piece on his society and how their abuse has gone unchallenged thus far..... Or maybe he is afraid of the consequences.....? Lucky he can write a satire from where he is at....
I am surprised you also haven't seen the irony in that satire.... Enjoy!
|Islam for Muslims / Re: It's Time To Face Up To The Problem Of intimate Abuse In The White Community by tiarabubu: 3:50pm On May 15|
Why na?! Wetin I do?
|Islam for Muslims / Re: It's Time To Face Up To The Problem Of intimate Abuse In The White Community by tiarabubu: 12:59pm On May 15|
|Islam for Muslims / Re: It's Time To Face Up To The Problem Of intimate Abuse In The White Community by tiarabubu: 12:57pm On May 15|
|Islam for Muslims / Re: 8 Reasons Why I Don’t Feel Guilty About The Boston (or Boko) Bombings by tiarabubu: 7:53am On May 13|
So you think that this is a perfect excuse for this terrorism thing to continue abi? Some Muslims "angry" enough to want to strap themselves and take as many lives with them as possible. This is a lame excuse. We know from history that "angry" Muslims didnt need an excuse to carry out terrorism as follows:
The early days of Islam
Soon after the death of the Prophet Muhammed, his followers invaded Syria, Lebanon, Turkey, Eygpt, Jordan, India, China etc. These areas were not Islamic, in fact many were Christian and Hindu. No one invaded Muslim lands to trigger this. Millions were killed by the Muslim Invaders. The invasion largely stopped after a belated response by Pope Urban in the Crusades (to which some Muslims still express outrage for despite the fact THEY caused it). Question: Which Muslim lands were invaded to trigger this "Muslim Anger"?
The turn of the 20th Century
The story of Uthman Dan Fodio, the Fulani Commander is well know so I wouldnt waste time repeating here. But the question is; What justified the invasion of the entire Norther Nigeria? What provoked Muslim "anger"? Which Muslim lands were under siege to warrant Dan Fodio's action?
There were at least 15 major deadly uprising between 1981 -1995 in the North when Non Muslims were attacked. (Kano, Kaduna, Kafanchan, Kastina, Yola, Potiskum, Maiduguri, Kachia, Jalingo, etc). What Muslim lands were under siege to warrant Muslim "anger"? What did non Muslims do to warrant these attacks?
So you history doesnt support your Muslim "anger" theory. To get to the bottom of this, we need to go beyond "the invasion of Muslim lands" or " Muslim anger" as an excuse. There is more to it than that.
|Islam for Muslims / Re: It's Time To Face Up To The Problem Of intimate Abuse In The White Community by tiarabubu: 8:55pm On May 08|
An opinion of a knowledgeable Sheik. An educated man with considerable following and an authority on the Quran. If Fatwas are just opinions (even ridiculous ones) why is Salman Rushdie on the run? Please remind us.
The Sheik recognized a problem and that was his way of solving it. The important thing is the problem at hand should be on the front burner even after dismissing his solution. But the baby was thrown with the bath water and problem still persist. Issues like these are what your writer should be dissipating his energy on.
Abeg make I go sleep joor.
|Islam for Muslims / Re: It's Time To Face Up To The Problem Of intimate Abuse In The White Community by tiarabubu: 8:40pm On May 08|
tbaba1234: zit is the same simplistic comparisons that people like you make. In time?? Do you know how long priests in the catholic church have been molesting kids?? How much longer do you think it is going to be stopped with the church keeping it underground? Please!!'
Why are you more worried about white priests and oyinbos while you ignore a bigger problem in your own backyard? They are perfecting their system, dealing with crimes committed decades ago, and allowing people like you in to make a life and religion in relative peace. Your own people have not guaranteed that for others neither have their system ensured justice for young girls and even babies (as evidenced by that fatwa) nor for religious minorities and you come here to talk of bigotry.Some of us tell it as it is. That aint bigotry.
Please remove the log in your eyes before talking about the speck in another man's.
|Islam for Muslims / Re: It's Time To Face Up To The Problem Of intimate Abuse In The White Community by tiarabubu: 6:51am On May 08|
Simplistic comparisons and generalisations made in that article. But the important thing is that at least the law is catching up with the offenders: Jail terms, derobings, fines, settlements, public discourse etc. In time the exposure will ensure that evryone is aware of the problem and its made a thing of the past.
As brilliant as the article is, how about facing child brides in the Muslim world? VVF in Northern Nigeria for starts, or even things like Boko Haram or the sectarian crisis in Pakistan, Iraq etc. Is there a public discourse about these chronic problems or an attempt by the Ummah to face them squarely? Or the usual refrain "they are not Muslims" and we continue to live with the wahala.
Good for the writer is a Muslim exercising his rights to free speech in Britain and is not a Christian trying the same in Pakistan, Iran, Kuwait, Saudi, or Malaysia.
The whites are facing and dealing with their problems squarely. Are the writer's people doing the same?
|Islam for Muslims / Re: Muhammad cannot be the Comforter by tiarabubu: 6:36am On May 08|
I find ironic that some Muslims will seek validation of Prophet Muhammad from the Bible! Its embarrassing really considering some claim that that the Bible is corrupt in one breath and in another quote copiously trying to conjure up Prophet Muhammad's name therein. That these people don't see the contradiction in their action is amusing!
Anyway, this topic has been discussed at some length on this forum, one of which is this one here
|Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Are Muslims Still Raw Over The Crusades? by tiarabubu: 6:40pm On Mar 31|
The same way your 9 posts above have changed the price of Mama Yekini's garri in your neighborhood market!
|Politics / Re: Explosions Reported In Kano! by tiarabubu: 3:30pm On Mar 31|
Lanrefahm: CIA operations. bomb muslim blame christian bomb christian blame muslim (just destroy nigeria so that we can take over) the fools will not know wot hit them
Do you still believe that crap? It was fad in the 70's. We are in a new century. The sooner we wake up and take responsibility for our failings the better instead of blaming others.
|Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Are Muslims Still Raw Over The Crusades? by tiarabubu: 3:21pm On Mar 31|
Nice try Mac.....
If you think you can lead me on, forget it. Its as far as it goes.
By this time next week, if I get no response, I will have to adopt my assumption.
|Politics / Re: Explosions Reported In Kano! by tiarabubu: 3:16pm On Mar 31|
Justyaxx: Not again!!! These people are hell bent on destroying our north our pride. Allah ya tsine wa GEJ!
Is GEJ the one who told the NORTH to self destruct? Where are your elders? Where are Ciroma and his northern elders group? Is this not a worst problem to form a "northern elders group" over? Is it only when it comes to the presidency?
You guys will not admit your short coming rather blaming others for what is self inflicted. If you like blame GEJ till 2100, the fact remains that the North is slipping back into the stone age and its caused by northerners themselves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kaima ka ji storon Allah mana. Ka fadi gaskiya! (You should fear God, say the truth!)
|Politics / Re: Do Not Link Boko Haram With Islam, Governor Aliyu Urges Nigerians by tiarabubu: 9:34pm On Mar 30|
PehaKaso: Cow fuckin & ugly Babangida Aliyu, duri uwa nka! Akuya Hausa......dolo......dan iska......banza......rogo kawai
Why are you insulting the man? He knows you not and wouldn't be bothered, you are here venting your spleen!
|Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Are Muslims Still Raw Over The Crusades? by tiarabubu: 9:17pm On Mar 30|
1. often Crusade Any of the military expeditions undertaken by European Christians in the 11th, 12th, and 13th centuries to recover the Holy Land from the Muslims.
You have your definition of terms. Can you tell me why some Muslims (don't know about you, but you can include yourself if it applies to you sha) can seem to let go of the crusades?
|Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Are Muslims Still Raw Over The Crusades? by tiarabubu: 3:32pm On Mar 29|
Definition of terms?
If a person has no idea of what the crusades are, then they are not among my study population. I dont have to tell them about the crusades first. I am not concerned what they think of the crusades after hearing about it from me, but what they currently think about it based on what they think they know.
If they heard it from me first ie I have the opportunity to shape their thinking, how objective would this my little study be, huh?
|Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Are Muslims Still Raw Over The Crusades? by tiarabubu: 3:10pm On Mar 29|
|Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Are Muslims Still Raw Over The Crusades? by tiarabubu: 6:57pm On Mar 28|
Really? That's your opinion. Its ok to air it!
|Politics / Re: Jude Agbaso - Imo State Deputy-Governor - Impeached For Taking Bribe by tiarabubu: 6:55pm On Mar 28|
if Rochas is being true and the House of Assembly are clean, the Construction Company should be under prosecution by the state Attorney General and the Lebanese owners facing real long jail terms.
If this doesnt happen, Rochas is lying to Imolites and Nigerians.
If the story is false the Company should sue the state for damaging their reputation, that is if they are not in the deal
|Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Are Muslims Still Raw Over The Crusades? by tiarabubu: 6:29pm On Mar 28|
Again you are right. One can't build something on nothing.
But I am building on something. My questions are as a result of observations of the reactions of some people to an event. That is something. I want to find out why and then take it from there. I want to systematic.
If I allow you to coax this out of me, I might not get to know what I intend to find out; why are some Muslims view the crusades as gross injustice.
If I get no response then I have to conclude that the view has no basis and is therefore unnecessary.
Shei you grab?
|Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Are Muslims Still Raw Over The Crusades? by tiarabubu: 6:14pm On Mar 28|
tbaba1234: Ofcourse, if you keep it restricted to the christian related threads then no problem.
Really. Why should I keep it "restricted" to Christian related thread while you go there as you please? Its a free world in case you haven't noticed.
tbaba1234: Even though, you sometimes do a poor job at proving these 'misstatements', your contributions are welcome if you stick to the topic.
Lol! I didnt expect you to say otherwise!
You are funny. Abeg....stick to the topic, please.
|Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Are Muslims Still Raw Over The Crusades? by tiarabubu: 11:05pm On Mar 27|
tbaba1234: I. That people mention the crusades in statements does not mean they are 'raw' about it. It was something that lasted for centuries and certainly would get mentioned time and again. The truth is that there is nothing to get 'raw' about, the crusades were a massive failure militarily apart from the first one(to a much lesser extent the third one). Most of them were suicide missions and failed miserably. The fourth crusade took Constantinople and Byzantine Empire was never the same again. It is no surprise that the Muslims finally succeeded in taking it.
No one doubts your love for Islam. I interject in Muslim threads its because of :
(i)misstatements and misconceptions, such as contained in;
(2)embellishments, such as in ;
(3) outright attack on Christianity such as in:
I never interject when you make other threads like "The People of Sound Mind" or "A Journey Through The Quran.... The Amazing Quran Season 1 & 2" etc. You are exploring your religion with other Muslims and its not my biz.
So, I dont attack Muslim threads, I try to correct your innuendos and outright misstatements which you bury within some of your emotional write ups. So, don't get it twisted.
When you misyarn don't expect silence from me. Sorry!
|Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Are Muslims Still Raw Over The Crusades? by tiarabubu: 10:14pm On Mar 27|
You are quite right. But let me assure you, I have not consumed propaganda.
Before I lay me down my points, I still want to know why the Crusades invokes such emotions. May be if I know, my points will not be necessary anymore, who knows. Maybe merely laying down historical facts from my side will not address the issue. Let us understand ourselves. I want to know.
|Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Are Muslims Still Raw Over The Crusades? by tiarabubu: 12:55am On Mar 27|
With you am covered!
Seriously, sir, I have not consumed too much anti-Islamic propaganda. You can see from my posts, I do not insult the Prophet nor Islam or say the really silly and nasty stuff some say here. Do I?
|Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Are Muslims Still Raw Over The Crusades? by tiarabubu: 12:50am On Mar 27|
tbaba1234: ^ Anyone can summarize her side for you, it does not take intelligence to write about the crusades. All you need to do is google 'crusades' and you will get as much information as you need. To get Tiaraburu side, just look for the one that makes Islam look the most evil.
And you look for the one that makes Islam looks sooooo good......! just one example....
To me, no one on Nairaland embellishes history like you do. And thats what i find dissapointing about you. You sweeten the tales too much. Coming clean doesnt hurt.
|Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Are Muslims Still Raw Over The Crusades? by tiarabubu: 12:42am On Mar 27|
Hey hey guys! Chill! Why y'all rushing at me like this.... One at a time, your questions shall be answered.
vedaxcool: In the mind of an Islamophobe a single persons action equates the unobserved actions of billions, . . . Offcourse in statistics that is being gravely ignorant of reality, for something to constitute the opinion of a majority, u must have sampled their opinion in its entirety or sample a representative sample of the population, u did neither rather like an a typical Nigerian fanatic, u simply invented a tall tale to sell! The real question should be why do Nigerians typically allow fanaticism to cloud their judgment? Better still why do NLanders allow fanaticism to cloud their judgement?
Single persons action? Really? This is what Vedaxcool himself had to say about the crusades just 10 days ago. Na so you dey forget?
Christians are here down playing the deaths of muslims and shias are here backing them up very and even labeling it a terrorist cry! Truly need dua this sort of thing is not new it was witness in crusades, the mongol invasion, Iraq, etc http://www.nairaland.com/1221369/srebrenica-massacre/1
Did I hear tbaba123 agree with vedaxcool? Really? this is what tbaba123 himself had to say about the crusade a couple of months ago;
Do not tell me you want to defend the crusades, you will just commit suicide here.... If you believe the nonsense you wrote, all i can say is that it is quite sad. Murderous western christians killing women and children and fellow eastern christians in the name of God... http://www.nairaland.com/1053141/5-examples-outstanding-muslim-tolerance/5#12271978
So I dont clog up reading space, there are several Muslims on this forum who have made reference to the crusades to suggest it was some form of gross injustice (my personal stance is that religiously and scripturally, it was unjustifiable despite the circumstances Europe found itsself at the time, and have stated so before and now).
What about the ummah worldwide? the examples are plenty; The frequent reference to the west as crusaders, and a major outrage about George Bush's slip up in that "crusade" speech of September 16, 2001. Many in the Muslim community claimed outrage. It will serve no useful purpose to paste many links here, but condemnation poured in from the Muslim world in torrents. Its all online. You get the gist?
Why the raw edge? And, more importantly, the miseducation about the events leading to the crusades? Maybe if many Muslims knew that particular history without embellishments, the term "crusades" will not evoke so much emotion that contributes to the sometimes strained relationships between Muslims and Christians. Another good reason will be to free up the word "crusade" from the dark cupboards of political correctness for the world to enjoy it in its truest form and meaning.
|Islam for Muslims / Re: 7 Myths Of Islam? by tiarabubu: 8:04pm On Mar 25|
*enters thread, grabs a chair and a bowl of popcorn and begins chewing slowly while staring at the PC screen*
lets see how this goes....
|Islam for Muslims / Why Are Muslims Still Raw Over The Crusades? by tiarabubu: 7:47pm On Mar 25|
I had this talk with a Muslim school mate and the discussion drifted here and there and landed on the crusades. I was surprised at the pained farcade she put up. She was angry almost, and ranted a while about this and that and this. I could have believed the stuff happened yesterday If I hadn't known better. I couldn't help but educate her on the build up to and what actually caused the crusade. She sobered up.
This got me thinking. Why are Muslims raw about the crusades? Is it lack of historical background to the actual events or just another convenient fuel to the anti-west/christian fire?
|Islam for Muslims / Re: Kill Anyone Who Backslides From Islam by tiarabubu: 6:34pm On Mar 17|
Do you know the meaning and the history of the term Muslim? I don't think you do. If you did you will know better.
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