₦airaland Forum

Guestlander:
What about Iro ati Buba? Muslims brought that too?

Is this discussion about iro & buba?

ImperialYoruba:
My dear kaftan originated from Indians. It was never an Arabian dress.

Una no know who I be ni, abi Obi don take Hero beer scatter una recollection.

This is Imperial Yoruba! The one and only Emperor in Nairaland!

We fit argue till next year on this issue, one by one i go dey open ya eye to see how Agbada take originate from Yoruba.

Oh really so how come the name is middle eastern(persian) in origin?

I don't care who you are.

ImperialYoruba:
Go in the Quran for source about the tribes of Mecca before Islam.

Go to IMDB and retrieve film records including documentaries on the culture and dress habits of Arabia.

Sources for yorubas wearing agbada prior to Islam, not Arabs.

ImperialYoruba:
There is nothing muslim with Agbada or Abaya. This is your own false understanding.

Before Islam, the ancient dwellers of Yoruba Ife wore Agbada. Islam originated in Mecca, before Islam Mecca was occupied by orisha worshippers, they wore Agbada.

Christians in Mali, Mauritania, Egypt, Morocco,all wear Agbada or BouBou that they call it, and likewise Christians of Sahel wear Babanriga or whatever name that they call it.

In a nutshell, you are attributing Agbada to Islam. This is wrong. I am telling you Agbada existed before Islam, and its origin is Yoruba.

Source please? Because most sources prove the opposite


Pre-islam Arabs wore Agbada or what they call Kaftan, because MENA is a deserted and arid climate. They needed to dress that way to protect themselves from the harsh sun and sand. Climate created your culture and influences religion.

ImperialYoruba:
You need to give the specific originator if you are disputing its origin with Yoruba.

Who specifically originated Agbada? It is not enough to just say sahel region. You need to find its originator.

Let me coach you on a few things here to begin with.

Sahel is related from Sahil, Arabic word for regions below Maghreb (Morrocco) and Masra (Egypt). This will indicate from around Mauritania stretching across to Sudan. So sahel is not some strange word that can be used to razzmatazz knowledgeable folks like myself.

What is interesting to know is that the two key words contained in your post - sahel/sahil (coast) and agbada both have cognates in Yoruba language.

Isale in Yoruba can denote valley a location below

Agbada in Yoruba is cognate of Abaya in Arabic. Infact, you can see the connection if you retrieve picture of Abaya on internet.

So untill you can find the specific ethnic that originated Agbada, I maintain Yoruba is its originator.

The Yoruba terms Isale (as in Sahel) and Agbada (as in Abaya) creeped into other languages of Arabian desert and their own styling copied the Yoruba.

You just came here and attempted to do your own razzmatazz.


Why is the cognate of agbada, abaya?

Are yorubas desert dwellers? Have they been Muslims since the beginning of time?

You're just proving the point I made.

It came from foreign Muslims. The same people that brought the religion to yorubas, brought the attire with them.


The same thing with the boubou dress.

Gppgn:
are you mad or something? You didn't read when he said the chef admitted he was actually sent to poison him?

You jumped on that person's comment but you just proved their point. Una too gullible.

He said! He said!

I bet you also believe Adeboye drank tea with God all because he said so right?

uzomakanaki:
didn't want to be too harsh cos of the condition she was.

She didn't even have the decency to tell you she was going to get an abortion.

Foodqueen:
For her to av aborted against your wish, I'll say you should move on from her.

I pity her future husband.

Yep.

If she didn't want a baby, why didn't she protect herself

uzomakanaki:
her above state of mind was not known to me until she got pregnant. To be honest with you when i met her She was the industrious and independent type of a woman which attracted me to her. I still can't explain where the sudden change came from. For the abortion I she didn't tell me when she did it, i only knew about it when she started developing complications.

You should have told her that if she got an abortion, you're calling off the wedding.

ednut1:
Stay in Nigeria. You do not have relevant skills that can make you integrate easily. If you do that crypto here be ready to pay heavy taxes on it. Btw i dont believe all these crypto traders people na yahoo una dey do jare 🤣

But he can put his degree to use. Some people are relocating just to wipe asses. He doesn't need to do that.

Walix:
I left Naija when I was about your age. I have a bachelor degree in Petroleum Engineering. If you send me your email, I will tell you what I think and what to expect if you decide to relocate.

Are you practising in your degree?

You have potential with your engineering degree...

When it comes to 50/50, the woman ends up doing more.

A man can come back from work and relax but a working woman can't. She has to cook his meals, clean. She has to do those extras sometimes while being pregnant.

If a woman stresses and works too hard, it shows on her

Cutehector:
Its only a woman who is well taken care of that will close mouth and not curse men.

You only know those who have bad marriages who complain on social media.

Haappy wives are always silent.

I thought you guys say they are evening newspapers that are bitter.

okoroemeka:
I guess the tips are for the females,if you are a man even if you look like chimpanzee just have money and you will look good inside a lexus

So men shouldn't keep themselves clean?


Listen to yourself.

Nigerfine3:
If you follow it well you could see its direct relationship to development. The illiteracy of Northern nigeria weigh us down. Look at Niger rep.

Some people don't want Nigeria to separate so they won't become Niger Republic 2.0 🤣

BBC is a myth.

Was he a practising Doctor? And why only women?

ednut1:
We should be making money from selling cow skin to luxury designers abroad. But we dey chop am 🤣

Nigerians are the only people that utilise EVERY part of the cow.

GODPUNISHALABI:
if e pain you knack ur head for wall

You're stupid sha. I said you're right and you say I'm pained? Lol.

I gave an explanation here:
https://www.nairaland.com/7724275/these-two-igbo-attires-which/1#123739525


Explain the winter hats for us.

Martinsmine:
This why i cook 4 myself. But how will someone you know for years plan to poison you. Is it lack of payment or lack of care from the boss.

Because it didn't happen.

😂

This man is just like Adeboye.

Always telling fantastical stories making themselves out to be mini-gods.

GODPUNISHALABI:
agbada did not originate from the yorubas

You're right. But I think your priorities should instead be to wonder why Igbo men are wearing winter hats as their traditional attire in a hot climate like Nigeria.

Where do you think that came from? It is mismatched and odd.

Razgas:
agbada did not originate from igbos either. A version of it first appeared in Sudan and has gradually been adapted and adopted around west Africa. Remember that during Uthman Dan Fodio, west and central Africa were all called Sudan.
The photo here is a Sudanese wearing the boubou

It's a sahelian attire.

kokoA:
Who really owns agbada sef? Seems every tribe within the entire West Africa sees agbada as traditional attire.

It's an outsider Islamic influence. The yorubas got it from hausas and hausas got it from their fellow sahelians.

Same thing that happened with the boubou.

Long flowy attires are a sahelian style, since they're desert dwellers.

Yorubas should stop getting defensive when people say agbada isn't a yoruba innovation, because it really isn't.

When yorubas accepted Islam, they started dressing like the people that introduced them to the faith- sahelians/people from Mali.

Oluromantic:
Your argument is not enlightened pls.

Everyone has different strength but high sex drive in men and low sex drive in women is simply nature. That's the underlying reason behind those chats. That's my point

It's not about any low sex drive, women have urges too.

You men are just easier to waylay with sex and women. A random woman can throw herself at a man, and he jumps at the opportunity.

Random women hardly walk up to a man and try to seduce him, it's always a trap but you men refuse to learn. There have been many crime documentaries on this.

Oluromantic:
That's not weakness, that's nature.

Most women will collect money from strange men too. A girl ate 12k food on a first date. That's women's nature. One could say women are weak too when it comes to money

Most dates happen in public places, a woman doesn't need to have her guard up as much.

This is different to a random woman offering a man sex. Sex is hidden and intimate.

Like i said before, honey trapping is targeted to men, not women.

Pretenders!!😂

That is why honey trapping works on men and not women.

Most men are weak.

I like your girl's ring. It's unique. Is it Ruby?

Lol. But why do they rely on drugs so much?