₦airaland Forum

nowhere:
You see as it has worked out for you. Excuses are coming because he is from the North. I thought they were all saint before now. Ndi ara! Nonsense school!

Who gives a Bleep if he’s from the north? It’s not the north’s fault that you are ignorant.

Basic legal terms you no Sabi but you call buhari aboki?

I pity you ... an empty skull waiting for the next good orator to “trick” into zombieism. Smh

lexy2014:
Why should he what? What has his being based in d US, being a US citizen or being on d payroll of d US got to do with d discussion? Was there any mention of those items in my post?

Was d FBI not aware of where Kyaris is resident, his county of origin and on whose payroll he is before levelling charges against him?

Was Hushpuppi based in d US as at d time of his arrest? Was he a US citizen and was he on d payroll of d US? What business does he presently have with d US govt?

How does Kyari not resident in d US, being a citizen of d US or not being on d payroll of d US resolve d charges that d FBI has levelled against him.

Would it be a problem if he went to d US to visit d FBI, state his own of d story and clear his name? Are u by ur submission above saying that Kyari is intimidated by d FBI or are u intimidated on his behalf?

We got our independence several decades ago. Thanks

nowhere:
Na him Kenya deliver for you and you are begging Benin Rep for another?

Lol didn’t know I was responding to an average Nigerian u

No vex bros .

Enjoy the streets ... those of us wey pass school n school passed through us know you don’t compare apples n oranges.

Good night Oga make I face some overdue tasks

nowhere:
Wait until you read the extradition agreement with the Americans. Backing evil, living in the dungeon.

Lol we aren’t under colonial rule

erico2k2:
i am a graduate and more so from a Uk Univercity about 17 years ago and still work in the UK, that answers your 1st part of your question
I employ you to please look up the meaning of proceeds of crime.Just cos law enforcement is in shambles in Nigeria does not mean that such laws do not exist.
if I am a 419 in total and I have £800k in my account and my bank statement shows I transferred monies to 8 people you beating amongst, Where the funds in my bank had been defined as proceeds of crimes, you who received money from me would have to show what the money you received from me is meant for if you cant you are now termed as receiving part of proceeds of crime. This is what forensic investigation and the evidence does, something the vast majority of yal do not know. It does not end there, since the money is not clean money the means of it getting to our police is now termed as laundering.ASK yourself this, why do you think IBORI was jailed in the UK when the offense committed was in Nigeria??

You are actually answering your own question .. he was paid for a service.

Whether the story he told or the story FBI dey yarn he rendered a service ... an illegal service under Nigerian law for which he shall face the consequences

My own take is FBI hasn’t proven he KNEW the origin of the funds he was to receive

As for IBORI he was jailed for money laundering and theft ... crimes he committed in the UK (where he tried to keep the money . It will interest you to know ibori hasn’t been tried for his offenses committed in Nigeria . Sad

Same with the Equatorial Guinean VP facing wahala in France

Laboni:
He knew that a crime was going on and he aided and abated the crime, stop talking like a kid..

Can you prove he knew? Or is it just conjecture?

Courts do not recognize conjectures

mp3ree:
You should should try and understand that number 2 is the main issue.

Which of the number 2’s? Cos no international element

And US HAS NO JURISDICTION IN number two (local)

tundess:
@27Pushing30
I am not a lawyer but as I understand it, "willful blindness cannot be the basis of exculpation." Especially for a law enforcement officer.
Besides, Kyari has committed various procedural offences himself contrary to established police doctrine( eg arresting a person without due process and investigation) and called into question his integrity by the context of his communications with Hushpuppi.
All his explanations are post exposure and self-serving. You can be certain that the FBI has corroborated Hushpuppi's claims by obtaining transfer records etc.
Kyari needn't be an "active" member of a fraud syndicate but he was aware a fraud was being perpetrated. He has, in his defence, said so himself.

FGN are now on the spot. They can choose to obfuscate and risk a complete breakdown of relations with an important international partner bc of protecting a corrupt officer or concede and allow for the interrogation of Kyari by FBI agents in Nigeria, or, allow/encourage him to go to the US to defend himself with the pledge that he will be reinstated should he be cleared of any wrongdoing, or, prosecute Kyari and dismiss him themselves.
I agree with you that Kyari's extradition is unlikely to happen bc the jurisdiction of his offences is Nigeria, not the US and as you correctly point out, his misdemeanours involve, broadly, abuse of office.

Keyword willful now have they proved willful blindness?

erico2k2:
where did ibori comit his crime again?

Ibori’s crimes were committed in the UK and Nigeria

Same as Equatorial Guinea president Whose crimes were carried out at home and in France

You get now?

ArcFresky:
What jargon are you spewing.
Crime that scammed Qatari business man by using a US bank from a Nigerian laptop is a local crime...?

Are you that daft or are you blinded by your ignorance?

He is an accessory to the crime, because he aided the crime by detaining an accomplice and even benefited by accepting money to detain the said accomplice..

Lol please show me where they proved he is an accessory/accomplice to the said crime?

Point out ONE line linking him to the scam?

lexy2014:
Based on d above, it shouldn't be a problem for Kyari to into d US, visit d office of FBI, state his own side of d story and clear his name. Is it that difficult? After all, he is a "highly decorated cop". He shouldn't be intimidated by d FBI

Why should he? Is he based in the US? A US citizen? On the payroll of the US Govt?

Explain why he is answerable to the US?

haslaw:
That is exactly what the dundee uniteds on this forum are failing to understand.

baba Nairaland is a very good sample of how the average Nigeria Thinks and its damn scary o.

People are way too DULL to sit down to think.

erico2k2:
come oh U can do better, the crime was not only receiving money however the money received was a proceed of crime committed abroad, you get the gist now??

Oga sorry to ask but are you a graduate?

What is your business where your payment for a service you rendered is coming from?? Have they raided Gucci and rolls royce to recover the money for the cars and clothes hushpuppi purchased?

I know our educational system bad but you need to at least be able to THINK on your feet.

Ok let me paint this scenario for you , hopefully you grasp A yahoo boy is driving on the road and meets police checkpoint... police searches his car and sees weed . dude settles the police man with 200k to avoid arrest.

will you now say the policeman is guilty of the crime (YAHOO YAHOO) and should be extradited alongside the yahoo boy if FBI requests it or is the police officer only guilty of the crime (Bribery and Corruption) ?

erico2k2:
Remind us where the money was sent from again?

so those who steal others credit card information and use it on websites (i.e Jumia) ... jumia will be held liable? or jumia will be told to return the money?

Oga think well abeg.

He offered a service and got paid... you have to prove he knowing accepted proceeds of a crime... keyword . KNOWINGLY

That is why if you buy a stolen phone naija police at worse will recover the phone from you BUT to be arraigned or jailed there must be explicit proof that you knew it was stolen goods.

Laboni:
The money was laundered through US bank in New York.

It matters not..

Believe this or not IGNORANCE is actually NOT A CRIME.

So far no document or story claiming Abba Kyari did the following:

1. laundered N8m allegedly received from Hushpuppi via a US bank
2. Was overtly aware Hushpuppi is a fraudster (note hushpuppi is based abroad).
3. Is an active member of a fraud syndicate.

From what has been published so far, the following cases can be established
1. Abuse of office
2. Bribery and corruption
3. Concealing proceed of a crime (that is the payment did not go through his account and if it can be proven to have eventually made its way to his account).
4. Money laundering (local)

To extradite an individual Jurisdiction should first be ascertained >>> what crime did he commit in the USA until that is proven his 4k up should be treated here

The crime FBI claims he committed was not committed in USA or some other Nation BUT here in Nigeria.

So unless the FBI claims and can prove ABBA KYARI is a member of a FRAUD (BEC) GANG then please furnish the Nigerian police with necessary information so he can be tried here simple.

Regards.

Rareoil:
Oga CIA have picked world leaders from there home countries in the past.

CIA has NEVER picked up a world leader .

Covert assasination via “uprisings” “sickness/infections” is different from ARRESTING a world leader

Him leg no dey pain am again?

Very daft idea

YouandiAllofus:
Does it matter The entire Lagos State is not so big in size that development shouldn't be across board.
I totally agree with you that the Niger Delta should be doing better in terms of infrastructural and social development when based on received allocations so far. But one thing you should know is that quoting the entire south south is like a comparison to the south west in the area of infrastructural and social development. And in this case, the south south is way ahead.
You cannot compare the igr of the aforementioned states to that of Lagos State, it is the commercial capital of West Africa.

Hollywood is in California
Stock exchange is in NY
What is in Montana or Wyoming?
Have you heard the story of Las Vegas? The Kentucky derby?? USPGA?

Look my guy forget commercial city yarns a lot of these governors are useless and don’t encourage anything.

I.e if Ijaws are so good with water then why isn’t there an annual open swimming contest?

YorubaPrince:
BASTARD!!! MADDD man!!!

May Tinubu die a very MISERABLE death! May the innocent bloods that he'd shed haunt him and his entire generations! Amen!

Firstly , curse does not work stop letting people deceive you.

Now all you need to do is try to reason well. That’s all you need . Common sense

mytym1:
In every rumours there's atoms of truth in it

You don’t know politics at all

OmoEpe:
Your disgrace is fast loading. He will soon make a public appearance and just like you dot in a circle propagated the jubril from Sudan stories and Buhari body double stupidity, so will the Tinubu is dead theory end in premium shame and tears for you IPOB pigs and piglet

I have never seen a people so gullible and who lacks every regard for truth. No matter how often your stupid lies get exposed you don't stop propagating it.

You guys are a shame and aberration to humanity and mankind

IPOBIANS ... not sane Igbos but these IPOB guys are some of the most gullible people I have ever seen in life.

It’s amazing how ignorant they can be.

E sure me say this woman dey game on this murder /assasination

E sure me die

Kobicove:
People will just be lying anyhow...

How did she know they were Fulani boys?

Make I no talk Abeg lol

Numerouno94:
because his still under trial for breaking their law; he obtained a fake Benin passport. That's a crime.

Why was that Wikileaks guy not released to the UK/USA despite being in another countries embassy in the UK?

Kate06:
I am following this trending news keenly. We have seen how Kanu was extradited at once without any court order. We are also watching how they want to forcefully extradite Igboho to Nigeria.

Now, my question is. Why will the FBI with a court order still seek the approval of The Nigerian Govt and the NPF to extradite the Supercop?

If FBI can extradite an ordinary citizen without even getting a court warrant, why then is Kyari special after all, he has outdone and broken a lot of records.

More revelations will unfold in the coming weeks as I see Cubuna and some top goons who will go down the drain as well.

But mind you, I stated this on my whatsapp timeline yesterday that the FG is trying hard to bury this case by lobbying the US to set the case aside as this involves a Northerner and of course, A top 'so-called celebrated supercop.

It's time to reap what he has sowed. No mercy. Let him face the music.

Why did Benin republic not immediately release Igboho to Nigeria?

Learn to think

The greatest lie anyone can tell you is the “no snitching” rule.

Now lemme tell you why “snitching” wasn’t rife before.

1. Organized crime bosses controlled elected officials, judges , police men and had other public servants on their payroll so if you snitched even a lil bit you’d be let out on bond/bail and killed.

2. Once in a while for public spectacle someone had to go in (jail) for a while to appease the masses for one bad killing or rising crime rate or the other ... mafia and gangs controlled the prison so no wahala there you did easy 5-10 years and come out balling (you got respect and payment)

3. Families ... you could not be allowed into any gang unless they could trace your ancestry or you were married sef (for Mafians) and your family were rooted in an area for local gangs or drug cartels so who would snitch when it could get their loved one brutally killed?

But now with reduced influence and all Oga everybody dey snitch! And best believe hush puppi depending on who e can give up might even get a sweet deal (low security resort like prisons in Florida ) and even wit-sec

So if you like be forming omerta

They are using blocks to do foundation lol

I hen ordinary houses I see concrete .

These govs wicked Abeg

seunlayi:
this is the regular statement of my Indian friend until 2 months ago when he lost his parents to convid19 and narrowly escaped it have taking some oxygen.

It’s krazy

Moferere:
I agreed with Mailafia.
1. Being a former CBN staff, he understands the game;
2. From personal experience, I can't trust DMBs. It will interest you to know that DMBs hoard mints and resale to their own people

The same malafia fit get him own BDC guy just calm down and see how it unfolds with

RuddyFusion:
Lolz .....when will they arrest Bandits and co?

Hey dummy you dey south dey bother about north?

Ok continue