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otemanuduno:
As one who is sent to reveal the truth of the universe, I will explain to you the Mystery of Jesus Christ. Actually, the world began billions of years back during the big bang caused by GOD.
GOD created some beings and some of them came to the earth to start living in them.

Who created this God?

otemanuduno:
The names of the beings are Eartum, Yahweh, Chimidis, Largas, Ephradite, Murmoh, Euchlydes and Chaleb. When they came, they all made homos in addition with the ones made at the time of the big bang.
Earthus was one of the homos who was already made by God into the earth before the sons of God arrived.

Where were Yahweh and his brothers before they came to earth?, And was the earth created before them?

otemanuduno:
Now because of landmasses and other things, the sons of God fought many times.

*Landmasses*, u mean earth right?, then why didn't God just share the other planets to them, wouldn't that be wise?

otemanuduno:
But one of them was the most choleric of them, who called himself the Consuming fire. His name is Nymphidis(Yahweh). Yahweh fought hard against the sons of God remaining, except Largas who was with him. Even Yahweh wanted to kill the newborn baby of Earthus(Mother) and she tried to swallow her up with water, but she escaped.

She escaped from an attack by a higher being! Wowww

otemanuduno:
Then the world was destroyed in the Armageddon caused by Yahweh(Satan) and Largas(Lucifer).

Meaning the baby and mother should be dead now. Right?

otemanuduno:
Then after that, the time of the homo erectuses began. And then Largas and Yahweh disagreed and fought for position. By then, thousands other sons of GOD have arrived the earth too and competition was much.

So God was still active creating, is that still the case?

otemanuduno:
Then Yahweh and Largas both fell into the bottomless pit they have dug through the earth. For a thousand years, Yahweh and Largas were in the earth core. Then Faulkin, the firstborn of the sons of the sons of God(adopted son of Yahweh) was going all over the world to learn wisdom. Then about 2000 years later, he came to manifest himself as the son of God(instead of the son of a god called called Yahweh). And many believed him until Otem came and made the truth known in that world.

So d later sons of God were more powerful than the 'Originals'?

otemanuduno:
Millions of years after, the world came to an end and all the sons of GOD went to another realm.

The world ended 'again'. How?

otemanuduno:
But the words written by the scribes of their times were still hidden in the earth and in the rubbles of the earth. Then came the our own world, which was about 20,000 years ago. And the homo sapiens began to discover the words that are written before concerning all these sons of God who were claiming the position of God.

The written words hidden in an ended world. Explain what u mean by 'end' in this context, do u mean they vanished from it to another realm or the world was no more?.

otemanuduno:
The scrolls written concerning Mother Earthus(Mother Earth) were the first scrolls discovered by the home sapiens. Srna Mohdi and others were the first to discover the scroll in Mesopotamia. Then they began to make images of her and write about her and many homo sapiens began to worship her around 20,000BC to 15,000 BC. soon some discovered scrolls and tablets written concerning Enki, Ea, Enlil, Mardukai and thousands of others. And these beings which were now in another realm now ruled the homo sapiens with the WORDS the have written.
SO THE WORDS WRITTEN ABOUT THESE BEINGS IN THEIR OWN WORLD ARE NOE THE WORDS OF GODS PEOPLE READ TODAY. THAT IS THE CAUSE OF DIFFERENCES IN RELIGION.

Homos ruled by the Words not directly, hmmm.

otemanuduno:
other god's words began to also surface after such as the words of Yahweh(satan), Vishinus, Brahma, Abassi, Olorun, Eshu, etc and people make these words into the form of flesh, believing that they actually are in existence in our own world. However, Yahweh himself was reincarnated into our own world as Moses Nu, but he didn't discover that he was the reincarnate of Yahweh until a very long time. Bundha was also reincarnated as Buddha into our own world, etc.

So the reigns of all these gods(sons of the GREATEST GOD) are never permanent on the surface of the earth. Only the kingdom of REVERAD their father will be forever. Jupiter, Enlil, Mercury Enki, Ahura and all other gods have reigned and have departed. Now it is the reign of the ALMIGHTY GOD WHO DEMANDS NO WORSHIP AND IS NEVER OFFENDED. HE IS THE FATHER OF YAHWEH AND THOUSANDS OF HIS BROTHERS. HE DOESN'T DELIGHT IN BEING WORSHIPPED BUT IN THE USE OF INDIVIDUAL BRAINS TO DO FINDINGS AND DO GOOD.

But then homos now are not the direct creation of God but his sons. Right?

otemanuduno:
I AM THE ONE SENT TO REVEAL ALL THE TRUTHS ABOUT THE MYSTERY OF THE EARTH. AND I SAY, FAULKIN(YESHUA) WHOM THE CHRISTIAN WORSHIP AS GOD IN OUR OWN WORLD IS NOT FOR REAL. RATHER, HE EXISTED MILLIONS OF YEARS IN THE TIME OF THE gods and he died in Sodom&Egypt,which was the border of EGYPT IN THOSE TIMES.

'Died', how?

otemanuduno:
I AM OTEM, SENT TO REVEAL ALL THE TRUTH IN THE LOSTS AND HIDDEN SCROLLS SINCE THE TIME OF THE BIG BANG TO OUR PRESENT TIME AND EVEN TO THE FUTURE TIMES.

Do u have any of this scrolls?
How did u understand the writings?

hahn:
I do not believe there can't be a creator but until that creator makes itself known I will continue to treat it as non existent and the product of man's ancient, crude, archaic and ignorant mind

Meaning u are not sure.
Therefore u (presently) consider the (big)possibility.

honourhim:
I mean that if God forsees an evil act or bad choice he will be angry because he hates sin but he will still need to communicate it to man in order to drive that message. He will make his anger known when man has committed the sin but it doesn't mean he was just seeing the sin and getting angry at the timr you committed it.
If God should be displaying anger over all the sins we will commit in life when we start forming in our mother's womb or on the day we are born you can imagine how ugly and confusing it will look to us having been created not to forsee our future like God
For example, if when Moses was born God starts saying-"Moses you will see the land but you won't enter there. Moses don't even beg me...." You can imagine how confused people around will be.

So basically, u are saying God intended to create the universe, saw beforehand that eve would fall, also saw beforehand hand that he would get angry and create hell of eternal torture for men and fallen angels, and still he went on with the mission?

Yahweh works in mysterious ways.

hahn:
I honestly don't

Fine. A Creator.

hahn:
Assumption. The idea of God came from pure, crude assumption. Then someone saw that other people also believed it and discovered it was a good tool for mind control. Simply say "God told me" and people will believe anything.

My own assumption

I give up.
So u truly believe that there CAN'T be a Creator?

KingEbukaNaija:

Waiting for yours

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hahn:
Rational? Hmmmm. I would have loved to agree but I am still yet to meet someone who came to that conclusion without having been told about "God" by someone first

You most likely won't see anyone like that, because of the time we are in today(information passed on).
But how do u think the idea of God came in the first place, its just natural instinct(the subconscious mind).

hahn:
What word do you think is apt then?

You know what I think

What if she got it before she became first Lady?
Also what if it was a gift from someone?









[No attack me oooo]

honourhim:
One thing u will understand is that God is communicating with man, and in doing this he has to do it in the level we can understand. To drive the message of how he abhors sin or loves good, he has to communicate it in our level of understanding. A close example is when an adult is teaching kids in kindergarten, she will speak and act like them in order to communicate with them properly. It doesn't mean that that's the way the adult talks and behaves.

I don't get.

Charlesdock:
that is the truth sir. Sir, you can't understand the bible than the author (HOLY SPIRIT)

OK sir.

hahn:
But still, the concept of a creator is a religious ideology

Nah I don't agree, the concept of a creator is only rational. Religion is another topic entirely.

hahn:
I didn't mean it as a matter of fact. What I mean is that aliens are also "creations" and are incomparable with the "creator". There is no point using a "creation" in an analogy to prove a "creator" because by definition, the creation has flaws and is imperfect while the creator is not.

We don't know if the creator is perfect or not, that's just a religious view. I once read a particular scientific material sometime ago, and the scientist talked about the universe and the way each planet and milky way are well structured, for the sake of brevity, he said that a slight change in any of the positions or regular movements of this planet would av caused havoc to the lives and existence of all. But he termed this phenomenon with the word 'LUCKY'. I personally think that word is not apt for that.

hahn:
Where else did the concept of a creator originate from aside religion?

The ability to think.
But people have only manipulated this, in various ways to meet various personal objectives.

emmyw:
But She Didn't Abort You!

Probably she wish she had. Who knows?
(No attack me ooo)

felixomor:
But when u use the word "most", u r making a statistical claim.
And where is ur reliable backup for that,
U cant just make such statement and give few examples. Give ur statistical source.

At least there are statistical backups for data on religious intellectual achievements.

And he gave u one.

Ahhhhhhh
I knew he was going to give that same statistics according to my first post, I was just coming from another perspective.
Like it is generally known religion has been very predominant among ALL, in time past. But we know of guys like Galileo whose mission was considered heretical in his time, Pythagoras, Aristotle, Einstein, Karl Marx and co, this guys(distinguished) have led men from the freedom of primitive accustomed views to the state of knowledge the world is correctly in, and they're are all irreligious.
That's why I mentioned names emphasis on 'distinguished' again.

Talking about statistics, Japan and China for example that are at the forefront of technological advancement are mostly irreligious, but I won't want to go further in any argument.

KingEbukasBlog:
Nigeria is playing good football against Japan and you are making logical fallacies upandan .

Not to cause any much argument, but remember from what I wrote in my first post that I knew u would bring up the Nobel laurettes, I was just presenting my argument in another view.

KingEbukasBlog:
Nigeria is playing good football against Japan and you are making logical fallacies upandan .

So u still dey awake.
They will win IJN

felixomor:
Bros, rest.
u cant say this is Isreal, ur statement was wrong, period. Stop substituting, just to make urself right.

Moreover, Isreal is a unique country which everybody knows how they were formed.

U cant also use the percentage of country religions as a narrative to the argument, Because country population and statistics of distribution of a awardees are not the same type of samples. Statistically speaking.

That's my point, I wasn't substituting I was presenting an allegory, and apparently I thought the websites statistic was right(my bad), I wouldn't have used it.
We have 'popularly distinguished geniuses'(a few) in different fields today & of time past, but we also brilliant minds at all levels of accomplishment. My argument was that most of those 'distinguished geniuses' are irreligious and I also mentioned some of their names.

felixomor:
Because when u use that same wikipedia, and check the christian population and other religions, u will see that ur statement is wrong, percentage wise.

U get?

OK, lemme say this in ISRAEL the percentage of Christians 2% of which most are Arab christians (Greek Orthodox), while Muslims make up 17.5%*modified* (source Wikipedia). But no christian would admit that ISRAEL is an Islamic country.
The point I was driving at can be gotten if u regard what I just said and read again my response to ebuka.
So do u get me now?

felixomor:
My bro, even if u replace it with 50, ur statement will stii be wrong. Sorry

How?

The tall girl at the back, looks like she doesn't give a bleep.

felixomor:
Exactly, Google is our friend, thats why I would prefer a more reliable one from here, gotten from census:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Nigeria

Than the type u got from a site with obvious interests.

Hehehhehe, Lol

Google is ur friend

OK then replace what I stated with 50 then.
I was trying to make a point to ebuka, besides I am not a muslim so I don't care about the population of Muslims in Nigeria, so again u can replace the value, and see the point I was trying to make.

This is very great

kilo4sure, I see u again yet in another similar thread.

Hilarious

Kingebukasblog \KingEbukaNaija

I've seen the thread, and I think president1 and pastoaio properly addressed my point of view.

KingEbukasBlog:
4kings ... please tell this nigga(not used in a pejorative manner) that he is actually pained .

Abeg remov me commot ur discussion.
I no want anoda lengthy argument.

kilo4sure:
I agree that the belief in Eusebius' possible interpolation is warranted and this is the major reason why scholars in the 19th century doubted the testimonium flavanium since Eusebius was the first to quote the text, but with other manuscripts such as the Arabic manuscript devoid of reference to Jesus as messaiah or other possible Christian interpolation, it is more reasonable to believe that an original core existed which was then interpolated, the original remained but additions were made to it to make it align with Christian beliefs. But you can hold on to your belief though if you so which, we agree to disagree.

Ok then.

KingEbukasBlog:
Seriously your sauce is insipid and tastes nothing like credible

Muslimpopulation.com ... lmao


Fabricating figures

lol @insipid sauce.
However I think u got my point.

KingEbukasBlog:
Still not relevant



Lol . Muslims are only 49 percent of Nigeria's population

Here is a list of Christian Nobel Laureates https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_Nobel_laureates

Dive in and get enlightened .



Haba . God chose to design the universe the way He did .




God's judgement determines who goes to Heaven or Hell - this is pellucid , nothing abstruse .




Miracles still happen outside Africa .




An epiphany you mean ? Well please don't bloviate about how you understand miracles with New Age Science BS here abeg

I hardly went for Chapel Services in CU and I'm replete with the knowledge of God .



How am I evading your question Just negodu





I implore you to read that link for demystification . You are seriously prattling away from the topic





Deists ... **sigh***





Hang on .



Who killed religious people under communism ? Atheists .

How do atheists have murderous tendencies ? Subjective Morality

Check out this thread for elucidation : https://www.nairaland.com/3176513/atheist-murderers-past-present-murderous



I wee steal your girlfriend



Sharap




Sorry





Wetin ?

Mtcheeew, since u have nothing to say.

felixomor:
Please just one quetion, where did u get statistics that muslims are 70% of nigerian citizens?

Just asking!

www.muslimpopulation.com/africa/
Google is ur friend!