₦airaland Forum

4 Him:
I agree with not talking to Hamas UNTIL they show they are ready to compromise and accept Israel's right to exist (which is Obama's policy anyway)

Tell me one major difference between Haniyeh and Ahmedinejad? Why would you prefer to talk to the latter but not the former? Does the latter also accept Israel's right to exist-The distinction between the 2 by Obama is based on warped logic and pseudo-intellectualism.

The reasons why he won't talk to Hamas also apply in the case of Iran.

There are plenty of ignorant Obama supporters too.In that very clip,Chris Mathews asked,"Wasn't the U.S.S. Cole [attacked ] under Bush?"

C Mathews has more in common with K.James than he will admit.

Even Obama himself has made whopping historical gaffes.
@4 Him

Reagan made Israel sign a peace treaty with Jordan and Egypt? Are you mistaking him for Carter?

mamaput:
watch the way he is to others and how others are to him.
his mother, sisters nephews etc .
dose he get involved in fights. how dose he treat his friends and foes.
has he ever pushed you banged his hand against a wall or on a table.
is he jealous very,
there are always signs if one watches out for them

All that is nonsense. You can have one for whom every other person will vouch that he can't hurt a fly

4 Him:
I disagree . . . both of them are nice chics and have no facial hair.

Never underestimate the power of waxing!

[quote author=D-reloaded link=topic=134299.msg2264612#msg2264612 date=1210884132]So fulltime house wives deserve to be beaten, afetr all they arent working thus have no where to go. Is that right?[/quote]I was paraphrasing Sheniqua(this her Americana name sef) who talked about women not willing to leave because they had no financial independence. Unless you just want to pick a fight with me. . . I'm going to walk away from aggressive Ekiti women.

Busta:
Ha . . .u just figured that part out?
u were so lucky I wasn't among them
u won't have been telling this story today

Well,you lucky say Debosky na your future husband.He likes being spanked by his woman.Though,I don't think you will find it funny to see your man developing a hard-on every time you throw a tantrum.

Busta:
@debo,

I am beginning to suspect that u are a wife beater too

I suspected you are a "man-beater" when you started asking what warranted my ex's tantrums.

@sheniqua

More women and kids have lost their lives by staying with abusive women.Stop wasting your time telling us women should put a price on their and their kids physical wellbeing.

If they have a career,they should leave,if they don't,they should stay and receive their constant dose of beatings. What nonsense.

4 Him:
tboy1 defender of the spineless females.

A man beats you and you remain with him then perhaps you like the constant flogging. By all means stay there.

No. . .they are staying because they want a roof over their head and money for food.Nice trade off. . .beatings for accommodation.

How can someone living in the West stay with a man because of food and accommodation.Some women simply need to demonstrate some courage.

@Debosky

Did I not suggest that Sheniqua was more interested in male-bashing than in physical abuse per se? When I mentioned the physical abuse meted out by women,she became annoyed.

sheniqua:
YOu keep going round in circles,leave to where?
Do you know there are people who have nowhere to go

So the Londoner didn't have anywhere to go?

tboy1:
what are you talking about? did she not leave her husband?

Yes. . .but there are literally millions of women who left their husband and have never been harmed and many who won't be alive today if they stayed.

You are talking as if most or many women who leave get killed.That nonsense.Lives are better saved by leaving than staying.

tboy1:
not really- did you not hear of the one that happened in uk either this week or last week. she left him and pressed charges, he was arrested and he got bail, from the police statioon the guy went straight to where she was and killed his wife - he's on the run now

Nope. . .actually,what I heard yesterday was about the woman who tried to strangle her husband who was crippled with arthritis.She said she couldn't cope with living with a crippled man and tried to kill him many times,including bashing him on the head repeatedly with a stick before trying to drown him.

These are still isolated cases.Women face greater physical danger by staying than leaving.

@sheniqua

Most of those women in the NYT story are women who decided to stay and endure the abuse.You are much safer leaving than staying and hoping your man will change.Another good reason to pick up and leave.

@Tboy

You want to be a hero?T-Boy:Defender of Spineless Women

[quote author=D-reloaded link=topic=134299.msg2264408#msg2264408 date=1210879752]tboy, that's actually very sick. She is totally brainwashed hence the "daddy" talk

Guys who have/like their girls call them "daddy" are bloody pedophiles. Freaking sick lunatics.

Cant believe it got to the pioint where the dude didnt even pretend anymore, actually had the a7udacity to beat her up in front of you.

It's women like her you see the next morning on th front page, in a ditch with a twisted neck [/quote]Spineless women,there are a lot of them around.

sheniqua:
ROFL.
I just showed a little snippet of women who died after they left the abusive men.
what did they do wrong now?

Look,I can also copy and paste stories of women abusing their men,what would that prove? Most women who left their men are unharmed.Simply pasting isolated cases doesn't alter the fundamental point-women should pack up and leave from abusive relationships instead of grinning and bearing it.

[quote author=D-reloaded link=topic=134299.msg2264382#msg2264382 date=1210879169]Dude, what is with you and Abia State?

They swear for you?[/quote]They have very fine girls but the mobile phone one was actually from Anambra. I think I have had enough of violent Igbo women.

@sheniqua

Odi kwa na mma? This one you are copying and pasting with annoyance.

stillwater:
Nothing wrong in running to a help center or dialling 911 because a girl threw a phone a you.

Nothing wrong in also discussing violent women which I fully intend to continue raising.Rubbish.

Busta:
ha . . thats serious oh

question: What did u do to them to warrant that assult?

You see? Look at the kind of question you are asking.There is nothing that should "warrant" physical assault from either side.

If a man slaps a woman,your question won't be,"what did the woman do to him"? I am appalled. . .I have right to tell "jokes" without having a mobile phone thrown at me or receiving a slap for my trouble.

Busta:
a girl slapped u?

no let people hear u abeg

I am still too bitter to pity you women.Lets discuss why women like to resort to violence instead One threw a mobile phone on me while I was driving and you people want me to shut up.

@sheniqua

What about all the girls who slapped me?Make I confess,na wetin dey vex me I have had a mobile phone thrown at me and slapped before by 2 girls,one of them,from Abia state and nobody wants to speak up for men like us.

I'm only interested in my personal experience,when I have a daughter,I can worry about you people.

[quote author=D-reloaded link=topic=134299.msg2264255#msg2264255 date=1210877289]get out of here and stop trying to defend your mother jare and Igbos arent the only tribe in Nigeria either

"Dalemosu" only exist in Yoruba land and such women arent looked down upon.

I got into a heated arguement with some other dude about this same crap and his response is that Yoruba women are crazy and stubborn and if someone hits them or cheats they are quick to leave the person and their parents will accept them back as opposed to other parts of the country

Since when is that a bad thing, abegi.

You are right. Guys that say such things seriously CREEP me out. [/quote]You are actually wrong.Word on the street,if you are looking for women to clobber into polygamous marriage or use as some form of quasi-footmat,Yoruba women are much easier than Igbo women .

I am taking their advice,not that I want polygamy for myself.

[quote author=D-reloaded link=topic=134299.msg2264242#msg2264242 date=1210876955]I'm just speaking on behalf of the women of other tribes too. After all Nigeria doesnt just comprise of stubborn Yoruba women. The others need a voice for them as well. [/quote]My "fellow" inmate of the island of denial,welcome. Atleast,I have gotten you to admit that in yorubaland,women don't face criticism for leaving their husband. Any abused Yoruba woman is only staying because she is spineless not because of societal pressures.Thank you for your honesty.

@Sheniqua,over to you.Are you going to admit that there are many no-nonsense divorced Igbo women living back home who won't tolerate abuse or are you going to continue insisting that most women have no choice?

[quote author=D-reloaded link=topic=134299.msg2264227#msg2264227 date=1210876755]what's the ratio of that compared to the reverse case? Yea there are women who beat up their husbands, who is disputing that? is that what the topic is about? Mr. OffTopic.[/quote]Are those women not living in the famous "society" you keep talking of? Where did they get their nerves from,I thought women had to endure everything because society says they must.

[quote author=D-reloaded link=topic=134299.msg2264208#msg2264208 date=1210876402]Excuse me. What women? You forget that I'm Yoruba. We have no problem with divorce in our society abi isnt that what you all say. We lead the pack of divorcees in Nigeria, no be so? . No be you people that hate us for having guts to leave unfavorable situations? Abegi.[/quote]End of story!If Yoruba women can easily pack up and leave,the next time I hear a Yoruba woman rant about "society" again. Simply pack up and leave if you have such a husband.If you are staying,don't blame society ever again.

tboy1:
Are you talking about in nigeria or in uk/us?

I can understand if we are talking of some illiterate women in a Fulani village but a Nigerian woman living in the West?

There are many no-nonsense Nigerian women living in villages whose husbands won't even dare touch them.Is their own societal climate different? These spineless women need to learn one or two things from these women.

Haven't you seen Nigerian women who beat up their husbands?

sheniqua:
I'd rather you channeled all this energy to educate your fellow men to keep their hands and twisted manly egos to themselves.
that way there would be no need for topics like this in the first place

If a married woman picks up her bags and leaves with her kids.Women like you and TOH will be the first to call her babymama if you have dispute with her. I know how Nigerian women are in mocking each other.When we talk of society,women have a part to play in it.

All this hand wringing is pointless.Those men who beat up women love spineless women.If women were less spineless,especially Nigerian women,that will help a lot.

[quote author=D-reloaded link=topic=134299.msg2264178#msg2264178 date=1210875897]Are you minding him. He becomes senile in topics like this. All he does is bring up lesbian this and that. Never answers the topic, just changes it around. That'sn what most of them do anyway, they feel offended and try to twist things. Fine if you're offended, then don't reply abi? Not like we're saying ALL men hit women[/quote]Its women who are taking offence over the fact that their fellow women are more likely to resort to violence when they face less physically intimidating people like children and their fellow women.

[quote author=D-reloaded link=topic=134299.msg2264152#msg2264152 date=1210875344]keep acting like you're a bloody Brit and not from the same nigeria like the rest of us.
Everything I'm syaing about society and family is the bloody truth and you know it and why would i look down on anyone for having guts to leave?

Have fun on that island of Denial. Hope the sun doesnt get too hot.[/quote]Society is made up of men and women.Of course,Nigerian society delivers its criticism and I'm sure you women cheerily join in attacking women who divorce their abusive husbands.

My point is,its mainly spineless women who stay with abusive husbands and claiming you have to stay because society will look down on you is ridiculous especially if the woman is living in the UK.I'm sure you know many women back home who left their husbands.

[quote author=D-reloaded link=topic=134299.msg2264085#msg2264085 date=1210874349]the fact that most women accept and keep mum is because of how we were/are raised. The fact that you guys are IN DENIAL that a Nigerian/African woman who dares to press charges against an abusive husband would usually end up being the one criticized by society is amazing.[/quote]The above is rubbish.What I can't get my head round is that I know village women back home who won't put up with abusive husbands.

That a spineless woman living in the UK stays with a man who beats her and exposes her kids to abuse, on the grounds that society will look down on her, is bizarre.

Criticizing women for leaving men who beat them to a pulp?-as if you won't be the first to knock your fellow woman for being a "baby mama" when she leaves her abusive man.

Adults,especially those living in the West have a choice.I have far greater sympathy for abused kids than the motley of spineless Nigerian women who want to continue being called "Mrs".

[quote author=D-reloaded link=topic=134299.msg2264033#msg2264033 date=1210873553]You are allowed to make a thread called child abuse, 4Play.[/quote]You people won't show interest in that kind of topic.All you people want to discuss is grown women taking abuse when they should walk out.

Bring up kids who have little alternatives,and they will tell you child abuse is a distraction. If my mum was the kind of stupid woman who accepted abuse for years,I would not only despise my dad but her for exposing me to that environment. I have little time for spineless women.

[quote author=D-reloaded link=topic=134299.msg2264006#msg2264006 date=1210873138]As usual when it comes to stuff like this 4Play just ignores the questions

Give us the bloody signs or be quiet jare. This is the 3rd time you brought up your retarded lesbian relationship theory. That has NOTHING top do wityh this particular topic. We're talking heterosexual ok? Take the lesbian fetish else where \[/quote]Lesbians no be human beings? The topic says,"Woman Beater".

What about children? I saw one with broken ribs and cracked skull at Great Ormond St