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Christianity EtcRe: Has Atheism Got Principle? No by 4Play(m): 10:11pm On Feb 13, 2008
doyin13:
@4play

Keynes took a trip to Bolshevik Russia after thir victory, and he remarked how terribly
religious the place felt. The conformity was stifling like some outsized cult.

These countries were far from atheistic. . .
Presuming Keynes said that,I like the way you are trying to "massage" his words.You will make a good politician. grin

Saying that a place felt "terribly religious" is not the same as asserting that its inhabitants are religious.Now,any person with a modicum of knowledge about post-Tsar Russia will laugh at the idea that the Soviets were religious.

To the extent that atheism is the absence of belief in any supernatural existence,these people were atheists.It is the favorite tactic of atheists to deny their "brethrens". . . . . . . .always seeking to attribute Communists like Stalin some manner of religious affiliation but this is laughable.
Christianity EtcRe: Has Atheism Got Principle? No by 4Play(m): 9:29pm On Feb 13, 2008
doyin13:
But surely, the battle against unbelief and unbelievers, peaceful(there is an oxymoron somewhere I know) in recent times, but violent in times past
goes to the heart of Christianity.
The above is purely ahistorical.While there have been occasions where Christians did persecute "non-believers",the 20th century is littered with examples of atheists oppressing believers-N.Korea,Soviet Union,China,Vietnam,The Old Eastern Bloc,Cuba,e.t.c

You might say there are far more examples of Christian persecution of non-believers than vice-versa but bear in mind that Christians have always out-numbered atheists by a large degree so there has been very little opportunity for atheists to take their turn at being the oppressor.However,what little opportunity atheists have had,they have taken it with gusto.

I dare say,if Christianity persecuted atheists in the manner atheists have,when given the opportunity,have persecuted Christians,the atheist movement will be largely annihilated.
FamilyRe: Why Do Singles In the U.S/U.K Still Prefers To Go And Marry From Naija by 4Play(m): 7:58pm On Feb 13, 2008
@toshmann

You are talking tosh grin London is safe,unless you are a dumb teenager in one of those gangs. . . . . . .why do people care about those kids anyway? huh

I heard there is a part of Manchester where life expectancy for males is 21 grin

The worst place in the UK though is Belfast,great property market but even greater crime

@Doyin13

This one you dey talk S.London gals,are you talking of marriageable quality(in relation to this topic) or what my friend once called "all those small small girls wey I dey phock?"
FamilyRe: Why Do Singles In the U.S/U.K Still Prefers To Go And Marry From Naija by 4Play(m): 7:45pm On Feb 13, 2008
No mind Chacal. . . . .im don relocate his residence to was it NWest? grin grin

You need a vest(stab proof vests are the best selling items in that area)to walk round his area.Greater London's Compton!

Seriously though,anybody who ever lived in Nigeria can't consider any part of the UK as dangerous .This place is uber-safe.
PoliticsRe: Fake Female Police In Nigeria by 4Play(m): 1:33am On Feb 12, 2008
Underneath Hotfunmi's hyperbole about men's supposed monopoly of criminality,there is some truth-The overwhelming majority of crimes are committed by men.

However,funmi's misandry seems to always lead her to categorical extremes about male conduct.
Christianity EtcRe: Should I Force My Daughter To Go To Church? by 4Play(m): 1:11am On Feb 12, 2008
ndubest:
Atheist are not born that way
it is things they have heard, seen and/or experienced that makes them think the way they do
I beg to differ,people are effectively born atheists until they are told about God or what other form of deity those in their immediate surroundings are familiar with.

At the heart of the issue is whether you can induce belief in God by "force".The 13 year old attending church weekly is meaningless if she doesn't believe in God.

Thus apart from whether its desirable to compel church attendance,the efficacy of such compulsion is highly questionable.Being a Christian is not a question of regular church attendance,its about a firm belief in certain Christian doctrines.
PoliticsRe: Yar'adua Did Not Spend A Dime Of His Security Vote by 4Play(m): 6:17pm On Feb 11, 2008
Kobojunkie:
The Buhari/Idiagbon regime already gave us a look at what can be accomplised in a very short time in that same country. Why can't we see that we have already seen a sample, all we need to do now is implement the same and this time make sure it is carried out to the end with no interruptions?? The way to make sure there is no interruption of any kind is if the people of Nigeria will take it upon themselves to control the process more than these can.
Lets arguendo concede that the Buhari/Idiagbon regime "accomplished" things in a short time,isn't it troubling that your best model is a military dictatorship?

Democracies,with all their imperfections,inherently move more slowly than dictatorships.There is no way we can achieve lightning-quick changes unless we adopt a more dictatorial regime.

doyin13:
I find the tale of Japan and China contrasting styles enroute to development.
China's renaissance since Xiaoping's openingof the economy has been drawn out, piecemeal
and littered with tragedies like Tianamen.
Japan's post war miracle on the other hand was focused, decisive and nothing short of revolutionary

Failed or devastated states need leaders that can inspire, excite and create belief. The power of their vision and the forcefulness of
their character negate the compromise that characterises Nigerian politics.
I would say China, post-Deng's reforms, has seen rapid development.However,Japan did experience even more rapid changes but this could not have happened without US occupation.

Although,each country has its unique features-different histories,cultures and ethnic/racial make up-the lesson we can draw from the Asian Tigers -Singapore,Taiwan,Malaysia,S.Korea,Indonesia,Thailand-is that such rapid development often best work in dictatorships;the contrasts between India and China has intrigued scholars for ages.

Unless we want a "strongman" to take over the country,the progress we wish for can only be attained gradually.

There are so many "vested interests" that ensure that certain unwholesome practices will continue to be indulged in.I have always said that if the President experienced a divine apparition that inspires him to rule with the greatest sense of altruism,he won't last in power.Pragmatism demands changes must be gradual,moving too quickly can be self-defeating.
RomanceRe: Is She A Lesbian? by 4Play(m): 4:57pm On Feb 11, 2008
almondjoy:
You sure say na lady? cheesy grin grin grin cheesy grin Please tell us the truth. No be the watchnight for the compound? undecided It was dark and I am sure you did not see the man well. grin
What if it was someone like the DG of The Nigerian Stock Exchange? grin grin She will need serious counseling for the rest of her life grin

Ok,one last time

PoliticsRe: Talk Of Priorities:Dress Code Bill Is Being Deliberated By The National Assembly by 4Play(op): 4:44pm On Feb 11, 2008
@oyb

You sure that woman never say her Shahada in secret? undecided grin
RomanceRe: Is She A Lesbian? by 4Play(m): 4:41pm On Feb 11, 2008
aisha2

Just playing with younobody has a sense of humor these days

Aisha2 and The Boob Sucker! grin grin grin grin
RomanceRe: Is She A Lesbian? by 4Play(m): 4:35pm On Feb 11, 2008
Why don't you come out of the closet?You must be suffocating in there

I just put 2 and 2 together and realised that you eat from a hairy plate-avid football fan(her siggy is "Manchester rules"wink who happens to have her boobs sucked "inadvertently" by a fellow woman-what more evidence do we need?
RomanceRe: Is She A Lesbian? by 4Play(m): 4:15pm On Feb 11, 2008
Hmmmm. . . , this Aisha story get as e be undecided

After deeply reflecting on this issue and imagining the scenario in my head several times,I must say I don't believe it!I think Aisha2 was a willing participant until she suddenly developed cold feet.
CultureRe: Facts To Prove That Ibos Originate From Egypt? by 4Play(m): 4:07pm On Feb 11, 2008
Igbos are the descendants of Tuface Idibia's innumerable offsprings!
Christianity EtcRe: Should I Force My Daughter To Go To Church? by 4Play(m): 4:04pm On Feb 11, 2008
The shocking thing is that 28 people have voted "Yes" to forcing the child to go to church. grin grin
PoliticsTalk Of Priorities:Dress Code Bill Is Being Deliberated By The National Assembly by 4Play(op): 3:43pm On Feb 11, 2008
If you ever wondered which one of the innumerable pressing issues our legislators are busying themselves with,look no further.

With electricity and water supply running 24 hours in Nigeria,crime reduced to zero and the Niger-Delta an oasis of peace;our great men and women of the National Assembly have turned to that issue of paramount importance-"indecent dressing"

But by far, the bigger drama over dress code is represented by the debate of a bill now before the National Assembly titled: "an Act to Prohibit and Punish Public Nudity, Sexual Intimidation and Related Offences". The Bill has passed through the Second Reading stage at the Senate. It is sponsored by Senator Eme Ekaette from Akwa Ibom state, Chairperson of the Senate Committee on Women and Youth Affairs. She says indecent dressing promotes "vices in the society, we are seeing a lot of moral decadence in the society today." She says her bill will help "to preserve cultural norms and values". .Hear her: "If you want to wear something, I believe that there are certain parts of the body that must be covered. You cannot go naked in the name of fashion."
http://odili.net/news/source/2008/feb/8/31.html

Sad thing is. . . . . . .we can't even blame the Mu.slims for this one embarassed Even that therapeutic blame game has been denied us by this Ekaette of a woman and her co-conspirators. sad
PoliticsRe: Pres. Bush's Pardon Attorney Makes Racist Comment Towards Nigerians by 4Play(m): 3:30pm On Feb 11, 2008
Hungary has threatened to jail a Nigerian, Oludayo Olapite for praising Adolph Hitler and Sz.lasi in a music he released recently in the country. Both men killed many people during the Second World War inGermany and Hungary respectively.

In the video, Olapite, popularly called Fekete, lavishly beams an expression of approval and recommendation for the German politician who remained a totalitarian ruler until his suicide in 1945. He also cast aspersions on Jews and the Hungarian minority known as Gypsy saying, Gypsies don't work, so what are they living on? They do incredible things, really in this country. They scam you, they lie, and you mustn't believe what they say.” Olapite when questioned by the Hungarian police attributed his outbursts to life under duress, the African news said.
grin grin grin grin

This was his excuse:

He claimed that he was ordered to shout every statement he made during the interview. "I was very frightened because I thought I might never see my girl friend again,"said Olapite whose funny bait often entraps his Hungarian fans. He continued: "They gave me a 10-page-script about Gypsy, Hitler, Jews, blacks and the socialists in which I hardly understood because I was frightened.”

"Although they tried to calm me down as they repeatedly told me they were not racists or skinheads. They convinced me that Hitler was a good man who wanted to do the best for the world. I felt I must do whatever they asked me to do otherwise I won't go out alive".
Everyone is denying him,,it seems his employees are just as bigoted:

The producer of the Bombagy·r channel, TomCat, claimed Fekete knew exactly what he was saying. "Of course we explained who Hitler and Sz·lasi were but for P·ko itwas unnecessary for him to probe further. O[b]h, he is not a stupid ni****. I mean Nigerian". [/b]The Bombagy·rTV is often the focus of the media because of its racial and hatred contents. However, Africans in Hungary especially Nigerians have dismissed Olapite's under duress excuse as implausible and annoying.

Archie Bonka, a Ghanaian cultural performer, said that it was silly on the part of Fekete to have publicly praised Hitler and condemned the Gypsy who often calls us their brothers? "Doesn'the know that many blacks in Germany were killed by this man? This Nigerian has already destroyed himself.

It's high time he carried his own cross," he added.
http://odili.net/news/source/2008/feb/11/217.html
PoliticsRe: Super Tuesday by 4Play(m): 5:06am On Feb 11, 2008
I dey go sleep  lipsrsealed  lipsrsealed  tongue  My anonymity shall remain air tight!Amen!  grin  grin
PoliticsRe: Super Tuesday by 4Play(m): 5:00am On Feb 11, 2008
babyosisi:
this no be small woman o
I went to primary school with some onyiukes at Enugu.
Which ones? very small world,I go soon run away go change my user name She is seperated,no sabi why she retain the name.

What? Did she eat all the stocks?

Hmmmmmmmmmmm! She definitely did not get there by bottom power I swear. She must be a super brainy. WTF?
almondjoy,you too much grin grin grin grin grin
PoliticsRe: Super Tuesday by 4Play(m): 4:58am On Feb 11, 2008
It must be some senator from 4 Play them constituency!  That kind of "Madam Etteh" arrangement!
She no get anything to do with mesince she is seperated from the Onyiukes anyway The woman makes Michelle look like ex Ms USA
PoliticsRe: Super Tuesday by 4Play(m): 4:53am On Feb 11, 2008
babyosisi:
that picture na helele
Make I put am one more time

PoliticsRe: Super Tuesday by 4Play(m): 4:34am On Feb 11, 2008
Their commonality lies in the fact that they both based their campaigns,not on the issues,but using a mixture of personality and empty campaign slogans.

Remember Bush's main pitch?"I am an outsider in Washington,in contrast to Gore,who is going change the way politics is run.He was the candidate of change.Bush's 2000 campaign and Obama's 2008 campaign run on the same ethos.

They have seen 8yrs of Clinton . . . but for sympathy votes (female votes), the fact that Obama is not white and fondness for the other Clinton . . . Obama would long have wrapped up this nomination.
Sympathy?Obama isn't getting sympathy votes from Blacks,men and those with "white-guilt" mindset?

Lets stop this nonsense about Obama being handicapped by his blackness-polls show Americans are less prepared to see a woman President than a Black president-which other white man will run for President as a freshman Senator?Not even Clinton,with all her name recognition,attempted such
PoliticsRe: Super Tuesday by 4Play(m): 4:18am On Feb 11, 2008
4Him:
America is tired of people coming up touting great knowledge of issues. Bush came in 2000 crying about issues . . . today he has a less than 30% approval rating.

The loudest people are not necessarily the best. Rudy Guiliani came in touting a fantastic record as mayor of NY, Romney charms economists and CEOs . . . today the GOP race is between a man who majors in "miracles" and has no idea where Pakistan is on the map of the world and another who is running entirely on having been a POW.
You got it way wrong.In 2000,Bush was the "Obama" candidate.Al Gore(nicknamed Al Bore because of his detailed command of data)was the candidate who wanted the debate to be about issues.They used to mock him then.

Bush got elected on the basis,as one pundit put it,that most American would rather have him on their TV screens every evening than Al Gore.His campaign was,like Obama's,generally devoid of detail though not to the same extent as Obama.

Herein lies the irony,having elected a man whose positions they could barely tell and who is now proving unpopular,they want to do the exact same thing with Barack!
PoliticsRe: Super Tuesday by 4Play(m): 4:04am On Feb 11, 2008
4Him:
what greater command of issues is Hillary showing? She's been hawking her health care plan for years . . . didnt it fail during the Clinton regime?
Have you heard of Obama's healthcare plan? He doesn't have any. . . . .he has set out objectives but promises to flesh out the details later.

Hillary is a reputable policy wonk.She has demonstrated this in her work with the Senate(Obama's absentee record is legendary) and her far more detailed policy positions on pretty much ever major issue-the economy,healthcare,environment,trade policy-compared to Obama's risible proposals.

Hillary challenged Obama to weekly debates in order to exploit his poor command of issues(Obama always looks less impressive in debates),what is Barack afraid of?
PoliticsRe: Super Tuesday by 4Play(m): 3:48am On Feb 11, 2008
I support McCain's positions on domestic issues-abortion,gay marraiges,conservative judges,tax and the economy generally.

This is my problem with Obama and other liberals.I can never  support people whose positions on many domestic issues are amoral and inane.

Hillary has shown greater command of the issues-why is Obama shying awau from her challenge for more debates?-unlike Obama whose best moments come while reading off auto cues.

A freshman senator should be taking care of his constituency's issues,not running for President within months of election as a Senator.He is running on the most liberal platform of any candidate in the race.

@away4real

If you can't debate and defend Obama's policy positions,spare us your pap
PoliticsRe: Super Tuesday by 4Play(m): 3:38am On Feb 11, 2008
4Him:
A brave American flipflopper you meant to say? Yeah there is no stopping his lies and contradictions . . . neither is there any stopping him from keeping US troops in Iraq for 100yrs.

The same McCain who once authored an amnesty bill is now crying about border security.  shocked

Go McCain . . . at least u have a fine wife.
Obama doesn't flipflop? He was going to militarily intervene in Pakistan at one point,he was also against the Patriot Act before he voted for it.

All McCain said about Iraq was that American troops might stay there just as is the case with Germany,S.Korea,Japan,e.t.c

What are Obama's policy positions on many major issues and how does he intend to achieve them? His campaign is the most vacuous of the whole lot.
PoliticsRe: Super Tuesday by 4Play(m): 3:32am On Feb 11, 2008
4Him:
John McCain is a love-vendor! how such a blonde bombshell be hanging on the arm of such a sack of sagging flesh and falling hair?
He can only win the general elections if all democrats have a flu on election day.
He is a man who knows how to get the job done,unlike Barack with his ugly wife. McCain beats Barack by all measures,even by the quality of his bedroom consort.

A brave American patriot.There is no stopping him
PoliticsRe: Super Tuesday by 4Play(m): 3:27am On Feb 11, 2008
Coco fine pass Michelle by far na  cheesy

Look at Richy dey talk sef  grin  grin  grin

Fine for where?  Dumbo ears, weird complexion, odd facial features. Nah, not my type but hey he's a decent person so whatever.
Even McCain looks better than Barack.
PoliticsRe: Super Tuesday by 4Play(m): 3:17am On Feb 11, 2008
The GOP is winning this election so go and lock up all those ugly people who want to run America.John "Methusela" McCain is going to be the next President,his wife even looks better.

away4real:
@ 4play so what is your point, huh

What are u on about, make your point.
My point is that you talk too much drivel

morenike09:
ke? Obama is fyn o. . . and his voice rolls with power. . but ehrrrm, his wife needs some 21st century makeover. . .  undecided
she is already "made over",imagine how she looks in regular everyday life.
PoliticsRe: Super Tuesday by 4Play(m): 3:07am On Feb 11, 2008
I recall 4play/Iman was here gloryfying Rudy Giuliani and Romney talking about educational achievements, where are they now. Same I-man called Obama a master of vacuities, that his campaign lacks substance. He knows more than the bulk of college graduates and youths backing obama. Looking at the support base of the 2 candidates u can tell who the better candidate is.
Lets try and make sense of all this driveling commentary.

What has Obama's primaries success to do with his relative capability in comparison with Romney?Talking about succesful politicians,does Bush's electoral success mean he is more capable than John Kerry?

Bush won more college grads than Steve Forbes,what does that tell us?

Cherie Blair is more able than her husband yet she was an electoral disaster.David Baddiel once said that of all his Oxford schoolmates,it was usually the most mediocre who went into politics and were succesful.
PoliticsRe: Super Tuesday by 4Play(m): 2:55am On Feb 11, 2008
4Him:
Ndidi Onyuike is actually cute, she's just fat.

PoliticsRe: Super Tuesday by 4Play(m): 2:47am On Feb 11, 2008
4Him:
See the prophets of doom.  grin Is Michelle not better than that grotesque Margaret Thatcher?  cheesy
Only Ndidi Okereke-Onyiuke fit compete with Michelle in the Wowo charts  grin  grin  grin

RichyBlacK:
Thank you jare! Some will start comparing an errand girl for Bush, aka Condi, to a potential first lady!
This Nobody still dey talk. grin grin Im never tell us wetin im achieve with his life so far grin grin
PoliticsRe: Super Tuesday by 4Play(m): 2:41am On Feb 11, 2008
RichyBlacK:
Many people will question, not just Rice's looks but her personality!

Look at you talking about logic and elite institutions, LOL. You can't even do basic arithmetic very well, and you're coming to talk nonsense. Can I challenge you with a math question? I'll pose a question I'm sure you cannot answer! You want the challenge, Mr. Logic? I dare you, for the third time! grin
Hmmm. . . . .is it through this your "man-child" antics that you propose to show us how bright you are? grin  grin  grin Talk about irony!  grin  grin

4Him:
Whether you like it or not . . . Michele may end up being your first lady for the next 4yrs. You can suggest a dentist to her then.
Racists!
She won't be my 1st lady and Barack won't be President anyway
Toothistthat is what they call those who discriminate against people with bad dentition

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