LordReed:
Only 1 reference to tongues was attributed to Jesus so how do you know exactly how it works if not from other books?

I know Jesus Christ said it is a sign of those who believe in Him...aka those who belong in His Kingdpm. And from the accounts of some of walked with His apostles, there was no record of any additional sense or feeling as the one which you stated earlier. Plus my personal experiences also educates me on this too.

Kobojunkie:
I know Jesus Christ said it is a sign of those who believe in Him...aka those who belong in His Kingdpm. And from the accounts of some of walked with His apostles, there was no record of any additional sense or feeling as the one which you stated earlier. Plus my personal experiences also educates me on this too.

But there was:

Acts 10:46
For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God

LordReed:
But there was: Acts 10:46
For they heard them speak with tongues , and magnify God

So?

Kobojunkie:
So?

What do you think magnify god means?

Kobojunkie:
I know Jesus Christ said it is a sign of those who believe in Him...aka those who belong in His Kingdpm. And from the accounts of some of walked with His apostles, there was no record of any additional sense or feeling as the one which you stated earlier. Plus my personal experiences also educates me on this too.

So your own experience is valid while mine isn’t?

LordReed:
What do you think magnify god means?

Did they "magnify God" as a result of speaking in tongues or did they "magnify God" out of choice?

LordReed:
So your own experience is valid while mine isn’t?

I already told you it is a spirit thing... if it was born of your will, it is definitely not not same phenomenon described in in Bible.

Kobojunkie:
Did they "magnify God" as a result of speaking in tongues or did they "magnify God" out of choice?

When someone does something because they are happy, they still are making a choice so your dichotomy doesn't apply.

Kobojunkie:
I already told you it is a spirit thing... if it was born of your will, it is definitely not not same phenomenon described in in Bible.

Ok so Christians need a spirit to do what other people can do by their own self?

LordReed:
Ok so Christians need a spirit to do what other people can do by their own self?

It is given as a sign to follow those who believe in Jesus Christ, and it is powered by spirit.. !

Kobojunkie:
It is given as a sign to follow those who believe and it is powered by spirit.. !

And those who don't believe are not using spirit nor are they marked. So Christians need a special power to do what other people can do without a special power.

LordReed:
When someone does something because they are happy, they still are making a choice so your dichotomy doesn't apply.

The choice is powered by the person's will, but speaking in tongues is powered by spirit...

LordReed:
And those who don't believe are not using spirit nor are they marked. So Christians need a special power to do what other people can do without a special power.

It wouldn't be much of a mark if it occured the exact same way it did for everyone else out there now, would it?

Kobojunkie:
The choice is powered by the person's will, but speaking in tongues is powered by spirit...

So you have answered your own question. They magnified god while speaking in tongues because speaking in tongues makes you euphoric.

Kobojunkie:
It wouldn't be much of a mark if it occured the exact same way it did for everyone else out there now, would it?

Exactly. That's why I know speaking in tongues is not a special mark. Glad you can see that now.

LordReed:
So you have answered your own question. They magnified god while speaking in tongues because speaking in tongues makes you euphoric.

So now you assume that while their tongues were under the control of spirit, the same tongue was simultaneously able to magnify God?

LordReed:
Exactly. That's why I know speaking in tongues is not a special mark. Glad you can see that now.

Well,your mind seems made up about that which you have no real experience of and there isn't much I can do about that.

Kobojunkie:
So now you assume that while their tongues were under the control of spirit, the same tongue was simultaneously able to magnify God?

Speaking in tongues is not powered by any spirit.

Kobojunkie:
Well,your mind seems made up about that which you have no real experience of and there isn't much I can do about that.

I speak in tongues so I dunno what you mean by no real experience.

LordReed:
Speaking in tongues is not powered by any spirit.

As defined by Jesus Christ it is, since those who believe are born of spirit...

LordReed:
I speak in tongues so I dunno what you mean by no real experience.

Everyone speaks the same that you claim, but only those who believe can experience that which Jesus Christ described.

I had two different experiences of it, and both times, it was nothing like spouting gibberish or speaking any learned language.

Kobojunkie:
Everyone speaks the same that you claim, but only those who believe can experience that which Jesus Christ described.

I had two different experiences of it, and both times, it was nothing like spouting gibberish or speaking any learned language.

Kobojunkie:
As defined by Jesus Christ it is, since those who believe are born of spirit...

Again you merely reiterating what I already said, Christians need a special power to do what others can do by themselves.

LordReed:

Again you merely reiterating what I already said, Christians need a special power to do what others can do by themselves.

Nope! Christians already can do that which you can do but with the power of spirit, they do more.

I can spout gibberish all day long just like you but in addition to that, by the power of Spirit(not to be confused with Holy Spirit) i am also able to speak other languages which I am unlearned in.

Kobojunkie:
Nope! Christians already can do that which you can do but with the power of spirit, they do more.

I can spout gibberish all day long just like you but in addition to that, by the power of Spirit(not to be confused with Holy Spirit) i am also able to speak other languages which I am unlearned in.

LMAO! Yet to see anybody actually do that, all I hear are stories.

LordReed:
LMAO! Yet to see anybody actually do that, all I hear are stories.

You want those who have the true version(not speaking in gibberish) of the gift to advertise themselves for you to see it?

Kobojunkie:
You want those who have the true version(not speaking in gibberish) of the gift to advertise themselves for you to see it?

They don’t need to, others will do it for them.

LordReed:
They don’t need to, others will do it for them.

How?

LordReed:


I speak in tongues so I dunno what you mean by no real experience.

You make incantations, duh. Speaking in tongueS is as the name goes different tongues of other languages which is of course rare in the society and almost a lost gift. The other and more common type is in praying. This is communication with God. Except you are communicating with God(which you don't believe exists) or you are speaking in other human languages, you are not speaking in tongues as described in the Bible. You are making incantations like the usual prophets of Baal and other children of the devil. Sorry to burst your ugly bubble.

LordReed:


They don’t need to, others will do it for them.

And why would the Holy Spirit make you speak in other languages like Russian, Chinese and co to people who don't understand or to the air?

Kobojunkie:
How?

Same way news of a miracle working pastor spreads.

LordReed:
Same way news of a miracle working pastor spreads.

Why? Of what point is it for them to advertise in much the same way as those who walk around speaking in gibberish?

Kobojunkie:
Why? Of what point is it for them to advertise in much the same way as those who walk around speaking in gibberish?

Those who believe are always looking for validation, for signs, for wonders, they won't pass up the chance.