Purist:

@claremont,

Please provide us all the "objective definition" of fear, joy and anger. [you've been avoiding this question Missy B posed at you].

He will run Now! Watch! He only comes When You mention Love! and God!. . . That's his area of Speciality!

sexkillz:


He will run Now! Watch! He only comes When You mention Love! and God!. . . T[b]hat's his area of Speciality[/b]!

Purist:

@claremont,

Please provide us all the "objective definition" of fear, joy and anger. [you've been avoiding this question Missy B posed at you].

claremont:

Fear, Joy, and Anger do not belong in a Romance section thread, but love does. Hence my focus on Love, if I want to discuss about fear, joy and anger, then I will find another thread were there can be an accurate fit. It's not rocket science really to understand that, is it?!

claremont:

"Love" is a cultural invention, not a natural phenomenon. .

claremont:

Popular culture provides the main ways we learn how to 'fall in love'. Movies, television, popular songs, novels, & magazines all train our feelings into the wonderful delusion of "love".

claremont:

Religious indoctrination demonstrates emotional programming. Is 'being saved' the religious equivalent of 'falling in love'? We are taught what emotions to expect—then we try to create them. 'Falling in Love' is Temporary Insanity, it becomes Permanent Insanity when we take the ultimate step of getting married to whom we "love". Love and Marriage are totally incompatible.

claremont:

Fear, Joy, and Anger do not belong in a Romance section thread, but love does. Hence my focus on Love, if I want to discuss about fear, joy and anger, then I will find another thread were there can be an accurate fit. It's not rocket science really to understand that, is it?!

Missy ★ B:

That protective lioness that would rather die than have you hurt her you cub, go to any extent to provide food for the cub does all that because of the movies it has seen and understood, song it has listened to and understood, magazines it has read and understood?

Purist:

Haba!  Don't you know that animals also watch TV, listen to songs and read magazines too? 

Guy Chop Knuckle! You tight!

E remain Small, I go soon say make im give us the "Objective Defination of FART"

Missy ★ B:

Excuse you?
Love is not a meme but a natural phenomenon. Like I earlier stated, that emotion has existed since the beginning of time. This is evident even in the way animals feed, protect, teach and love their offsprings just as humans do. An animal that has just given birth will leave her baby for a while to hunt for food because she cares for her new born [Manifestation of that emotion.
A dog will run and leap as if it were glad everytime you come home after a long day's work because it missed you [manifestation of that emotion]. A mother bear who has just lost her young could be heard crying, mourning her loss [manifestation of that emotion]. I cannot genuinely cry, or be sweet just because it is demanded from me, but because I am hurt or really love someone. It is an innate emotion; I do not feel it because I was taught to or I'm expected to feel it, I do because there's been some chemical reaction in my brain. A not so recent study on pain showed that people in considerable pain had less pain and needed less medication during the times they were visited by their loved ones (spouses, family members, good friends). This happens by chance?
That protective lioness that would rather die than have you hurt her you cub, go to any extent to provide food for the cub does all that because of the movies it has seen and understood, song it has listened to and understood, magazines it has read and understood?
You had better stop taking words out of the dictionary, placing one in front of the other to form sentences one can't perfectly makes sense out of. Are you on about what makes a sucessful marriage, the existence of the emotion we call love or the compatibility of love and marriage? Where did you get the tripe that love and marriage aren't compatible? Love and marriage may not always go together, the former may not be enough to make the latter sucessful but to say both are mutually exclusive is plain BS. I'd hate to think I've been wasting my precious time on/with you.
My dear, there's a correlation. It's not by mistake I asked that question. Fear, anger, love etc are all emotions and they all exist in the brain. If you can prove to me that fear exists, I can also prove to you that love does. So?

claremont:

It is not "love" because love is subjective and varies among different people hence it's lack of an objective definition.

claremont:

I am indeed bemused when I hear supposedly highly intelligent persons say that animals have the capacity to "love". I do agree that animals show some form of affection for one another, but like I have said innumerable times today, that animalistic affection should not be misconstrued to mean a "love delusion". Animals display affection as a result of evolutionary social bonds developed between their groups in a way that will ensure the propagation of their species,

claremont:

-Animals are motivated by lust and procreation-

claremont:

love is subjective and varies among different people

claremont:

it's lack of an objective definition.

claremont:

If I saw a child drowning, I would save that child. I don't "love" the child, I don't have to wait to feel the prodding of a a deluded emotion called "love" before I allow myself to obey an innate human trait. The analogy I tried to draw between marriage and "love" which apparently you refused or chose not to understand is that couples who marry on the basis of a purely fictitious concept called "love" are most likely to have marital problems as compared to those who marry on the basis of good old-fashioned compatibility and adaptibility.

Ucheosefoh:

At poster I can see that the gods are f-u-c-k-i-n-g you and you are trying to f-u-c-k them back

2Praise:

^^^
EXACTLY!!

After I read that, I stopped reading or commenting. You will nevr win this wth him.

Missy ★ B:

And your dictionary defines love as deep affection.  . . . .Do the math. 
If you decide to call that emotion ''affection'', I really don't have a problem with that, as long as you're beginning to understand that, that emotion exists.
I haven't talked about copulating, yet. If I remember clearly, my instance was based on a mother-offspring scenario. The lioness protects her cub because she is motivated by procreation and lust?

Missy ★ B:

Now, I have you eating your own words . . . Good! Now, you agree love 'exists' and you also agree that it's subjective. . . .Perfect! We're now saying the same thing though one is speaking English and the other Swahili but we're getting to an understanding and agreement. I could even decide to rest my case now.
Yet you asked me to give you an objective definition. Smart of you, huh? Lol! 

Missy ★ B:

You could decide not to save the child and still not feel a sense of guilt or obligation BUT, it would be impossible for you to love that child and not save her or feel guilt and hurt if you were unable to save her. Capisci?
If you saw 2 kids drowning - one yours and the other a stranger- , you most likely will save yours, first. Did you do that because it's ethical or humanitarian? Wouldn't it also be ethical and humanitarian to save the other, first? Isn't it unethical to be partial? Why would you choose to save yours first?

djon78:

Love exist, but it is not easy. All the precious natural resources mined from the ground like gold, crude oil etc must be refined before their beauty or worth or value can be appreciated by all and refining process requires high heating. likewise love must go through a refining process through time to become real love.

mr @poster the love you see in the western world is simply a delusion and not love, it is deception, it is not real but based on mere lust, and infatuation, of which does not last therefore when it dissipates or when the whole feeling stuff dies down, the individuals involved have nothing in common again.

life is filled with good and bad times and true love must always be constant whether it is good or bad. I think the reason why a lot of we humans do not attain this state of true love is because of selfishness and self centredness which leads to satisfying our own selfish desires and lusts. for love to work the two individuals must be committed to each other, if the commitment is from one side, the other partner will get tired with time and thereby the relationship will suffer. so before going into any serious relationship the two partners must be committed to each other, find out what each side likes and dislikes, any common ground and how to address the differences and become compatible.

in fact to maintain real love in a relationship is not easy, it requires commitment to one another because nature of man is filled with many lapses, mistakes, frailties and weaknesses and this weaknesses can rear up from any of the partners during the relationship.


i am not trying to be christian apologist but based on the weakness and mistakes of human nature real love is certified by staying put and still in love despite the weakness and mistakes made from a partner (of which is not easy mere talk but requires serious work). this statement to me is the highest definition of true love 1 Corinthians 13 4 - 7 (Love is patient and kind. Love is not jealous or boastful or proud or rude. It does not demand its own way. It is not irritable, and it keeps no record of being wronged. It does not rejoice about injustice but rejoices whenever the truth wins out. Love never gives up, never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance.)


even I myself has not reached that level of saying i can be able to give real love because as a human with all my weaknesses and frailties it will require a lot of commitment for me but denying that there is nothing like real, true love is delusional, there is true love and my aim in life is that my relationship with my wife( still single but ready to settle down although not yet found the one) will become a real true love relationship that will stand the test of times.

AND ALSO TRUE LOVE IS NOT intimate LUST, FEELING, INFATUATION THAT FIZZLES OUT WITH TIME OF WHICH MANY PEOPLE CALL THE SO CALLED 'FALLING IN LOVE' ALTHOUGH ALSO ON THE OTHER SIDE GOOD RELATIONSHIP IS ENHANCED BY GOOD SEX LIFE BETWEEN THE COUPLE DEPENDING ON THEIR EXPOSURE TO LIFE because THERE ARE THOSE WHO WERE EXPOSED TO SEX MORE THAN OTHERS, AS WELL AS THOSE NOT EXPOSED TO SEX AT ALL.

ajigglin:

OP, i think you've received many adequate and correct responses for your questions, but you won't accept them.  perhaps you should ask your elders.  they might give you the information you are looking for in a way you can understand it.  i thought people like missy b were clear, but maybe not.

tlops:

God is Love!

2Praise:

@ sexkillz

Gibberish ? na,I was trying to beg you to stop running all over the thread and throwing tantrums cz u were acting like a catalyst to this debate.
That dont mean I agree with hs school of thought! Never. I am a product of lOVE and a believer in God whos the ultimate expression of love.
So why get angry when smbody else refuses to accept that? Dont u see the other crazy threads tht kp popping up evry now and then?
Imagine running from thread to thread trying to whip evry irritating poster! And wht is irritating to you may be pleasurable  to smbody else.
So u dont need to put a stop to this cz some ppl just love reading other peoples opinions which in most cases makes lot of sense.
Always rem that,  thread is not the poster only but the 'postees'( yes theres no such word). too.

My Whipping Every Irritating Poster is None of your Bizwaz! I make my Comment, you make Ur's. My Laughing doesn't mean you Should! It's a Free World! GET THAT!