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8BowlofFlour:
I am sure the bandits are probably trying to set the man up.
Criminals don't reveal the identity of other criminals to their victims

There’s no evidence that the bandits are capable of such three-dimensional chess...
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slyfoxxjoe:
Obama has never stepped foot in Nigeria. Check again. Na Ghana him go.

The one thing that Obama did that was moronic...

For better or worse, 1 out of every 7 black persons is Nigerian (used to 1 out of every 5). For the first-ever US president of African/black descent to symbolically “overlook” those number of siblings is obtuse. The better thing is to show up and tell them bitter truths. That’s what FAMILY does!
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sweetjohn:
Nonesense! Rubbish comment! That what we only do in Nigeria, reading toomuch of paper that do not relate reality on ground. Nigeria is all you said and a country like Congo is highly respected than Nigeria. Nigeria is biggest economy in Africa and hunger is killing her larger population. My friend stop reading all our stupid newspappers and begin to see the realities. Nigerian is really suffering and are the most suffering people in the whole world

The irony in your comment is bringing up DR Congo, which is a MESS and was heavily criticized by the US State Dept’s human rights report, and who’s last presidential elections was described by the the UK’s Guardian (and also by Mo Ibrahim) as “a defeat of democracy”.

Meanwhile, you seem confused by the FACTUAL reality that Nigeria could be the BIGGEST economy in Africa (and by far btw), while simultaneously having a lot of poor people, as if that is somehow mutually exclusive - especially when Nigeria also have by far Africa’s BIGGEST population. It’s simple arithmetics. Even China, likely to become the world’s biggest economy in our lifetime, had almost 500 million people living in poverty in the early 2000s (that’s 300 million more poor folks than the entire population of Nigeria, albeit with 6 times the population of Nigeria). In fact, in the richest-ever nation in human history, the US, about 40 million people live in poverty (2017 US Census data). The biggest problem in Nigeria is the INEQUALITY in the distribution of wealth, and not the size of the economy itself.

Meanwhile, Nigeria banks (and Dangote) continue to spread out throughout Africa (how many Kenyan or Congolese banks are in Nigeria?), while Nigeria continues to increase it CULTURAL dominance of sub-Saharan Africa through its music, movies and fashion. Get out more dude! SMH
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Solatium:
Very stupid post and stupid interview granted by another stupid professor.
You think americans are like our Nigerians?
He has a purpose for calling those people and the discussion might be on something that needs to be tackle urgently,again looking at the proximity of Kenya to Congo one might say it's more of Security or economic discussion and south africa been a regional power within that axis concludes and complete that equation.

Spot on!
DR Congo is a MESS, and nobody would be calling to celebrate its situation (nor what the UK’s Guardian called “a defeat of democracy”).
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Advocate500:
you and who face? Speak for yourself, is Nigeria better off than countries that received Biden's call?

Are those countries better off because of Biden’s call?

I may not share the dude “patriotic” fervor, but he is essentially right...
A call from any US President is nice SYMBOLISM, but not much else in the grand scheme.

Nigerians should be concentrating on fixing Nigeria for NIGERIANS...
Rather than stressing themselves over a rehearsed perfunctory phone call.
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Juliusmalema:
He made the calls to the real giants of Africa...

South Africa is the anchor and pillar of Africa.

Kenya is now the silicon valley of Africa .

Next Biden will call Ghana and other African giants like Rwanda and Angola..

Nigeria has nothing to offer , the
more reason the world powers always faces those with ideas and advancement.

It took painful begging before Covid-19 vaccine cancelled for Nigeria and given to other African nations without plea to even reach Nigeria and just 4 million doses...

RUBBISH! Nigeria is the tech hub of Africa...
And Nigeria has attracted more tech investment capital over the last few years than any other African nation.

With all of Nigeria’s issues, it is still the BIGGEST economy in Africa (and Nigeria’s GDP is probably grossly UNDERCOUNTED as much of the huge informal sector, which is even bigger than the formal economy, is mostly not captured by official data), and a top trading partner in Africa for the US, the UK, China and the EU. Anyone underestimating the importance of Nigeria in Africa is (to be brutally honest) CLUELESS!
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Rugaria:
If the Nigerian people can push harder, this might be the time to wrench out some concessions from the corrupt ruling elite in this country. At the moment, there are lots of infighting, religious and ethnic tensions, country is running out of cash, Endsars massacres have allienated the present government from a lot of her western supporters and more dangerously, the security agencies are starting to struggle to keep peace in multiple fronts as Buharis maladministration starts all sorts of fires at every corner... Our tormentors are cornered and ostracized but the people are yet to understand this..

You are precipitously presuming that the so-called “Nigerian people” want the same things...
Reality is that you only need to be on Nairaland for five minutes to realize that “Nigerian people” are often pulling in diverse directions.
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saajus:
You don't understand diplomacy. Sovereign does not mean isolation. No nation can stand alone, even strong-head stubborn North Korea can't. If they can stand alone, they won't care about sanctions.

Do you know the call can make our currency stronger for a while cos speculators will start thinking these guys might strike some deals that will influence more demand for Naira? Most times, currency strength is moved by speculations more than realities.
Do you know the call can attract investors?
There is more to this. Ordinary citizens with zero diplomacies and economics knowledge think it's just a call. It is not just a call.

Heck no, it cannot.
Only the fundamentals of your economy and economic policy can influence your currency’s value.

Please let’s NOT get too carried away with ephemeral things...
A call from a new US President may be good SYMBOLISM, but it is not really much more than that.
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Samunique:
America hate terrorist !!!!

They should stop creating terrorists then...
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orisa37:
TRUMP WAS SET TO CHANGE NIGERIA, CHINA AND ARABIA FOR GOOD AND RESET NIGERIA AWAY FROM HER PRESENT BRITISH GUINEA PIG PRESIDENTIAL EXPERIMENT.

Dotard Trump couldn’t “reset” toilet paper from his feet...smh
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Brand99:
https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/446562-biden-snubs-buhari-in-first-calls-to-africa.html

As dull as Sai Bubu is...
This is a SILLY and petty article.
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Roon9:
This is the dumbest shit I have ever heard

Maybe the watchman saw something he probably shouldn't have

Wahala be like northern governors
Their mumu na folo come

Maxymilliano:
Was the governor expecting the poorly paid security guards to have put up a resistance

SpecialAdviser:
This terrorist man shut up and leave innocent man alone. Anybody can be implicated and made a victim of what he doesn't know. Could be that someone who knows him just wanted to implicate him.

Allow proper investigation and see that you politicians are the main culprits.

lamentor78:
And you believe them , the watchman was never their contact is a diversionary tactics , politicians are so dumb

Bampeh:
This is funny, thanking the informant after receiving such an amount of money you can never get in your entire generation. Is either the bandits are grateful fellows or this is just a set up.

piart3:
Leave the poor guard alone... the real master mind is in his air conditioned room chilling somewhere.anyways scapegoat don mature..

PS712:
After saying Nigerians will be shocked if he reveals the identity of those behind the abduction only for him to talk about the school's watchman.
Maybe they want to use him as scapegoat.

codedphyness:
because he a poor security man nah that's you mentioned it,

what of the top men involved

LifeQuest:
Poor watchman. What about the moneybags sponsoring them?

Sunnycliff:
Even The FG is an accomplice. They have not been passionate to prosecute the kidnappers. See as them wan use poor watchman make scape goat. Sheik Gumi that hobnobs with them is walking free.The army can't locate or bombard them in the forest but can easily arrest southern civilians defending their community against these marauders....

A zoo indeed

chrisblack:
Story land. The watchman is the only person that can be mentioned. He has not body to help him confront the authorities. He's a nobody thus very convenient for framing

amaham:
So unintelligent to believe this story. The bandits just wanted to send the investigators on a wild goose chase that's why they mentioned the gatemans name. They better focus on the real collaborators

od501:
They don make this one escape goat while the real accomplices are chilling in Abuja

4four:
Hmmmn! Poor watchman has already become scapegoat of the leaders

People! Enough already with the “innocent” or “poor” gateman babble...
Unless some of you were involved, the reality is that none of us knows if he was criminally culpable or not.

Some of you make it sound as if “poor” people don’t commit crimes...
Yet the same people will turn around to blame poverty in the land for increased criminality.

SAD reality in Nigeria is that virtually everyone is capable of criminality given enough incentive and opportunity...
Most Nigerians know (or have heard) of instances where gatemen have colluded with robbers or even killed oga/madam themselves.

Poverty neither precludes criminality nor is it an immunity thereto...
Let the police do their job (although the investigatory track record of Nigeria police is dodgy), and hopefully unravel the facts.
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Dcoy:
Why is the North making us feel like the dumbest country in the world....
Which bandit will expose their informants....
Dumb Dumb North

If you truly believe Northerners are supposedly “dumb”
Then why would you not also believe that Northern bandits are “dumb” enough to expose their informants?!
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Minjim:
So the terrorists stood in front of the CP to say this?

I mean, the CP saw terrorists that killed a student and abducted others and no single arrest was made.

If we protest bad government now we'll be arrested with charges of terrorism

Is it only violence the FG understand?

The students reportedly said it in front of the CP, not the terrorists...
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fergie001:
Channels TV

Saw the interview and the Governor was a DISGRACE...
If this is the quality of governance in Nigeria, we’re in real trouble. SMH
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“Dutch couple”?
Didn’t know Nkechi is a Dutch name.
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EKO ONI BAJE!
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duro4chang:
Good. I have already vowed I will not take it.

Fahdiga:
Not for me. covid isn't for me and my family

When one has the misfortune to read stuff like this from ‘educated’ people, it becomes clear why Nigeria (a country with so many uneducated people) remains a cesspool of disease and so many preventable deaths.
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abbey621:
Point of correction, we don't know what the divorce is about, my comment was in response to someone saying no matter what, a man has no right to throw the woman out. Whether it is attempted murder or the man found out the kids are not his, we can't rule out anything! Furthermore, some men actually built their houses and wealth before marriage, most are so dumb not to sign a prenup and in America they lose their property automatically in most states. My point remains true, we don't have enough information on this particular case to form an informed opinion, for a man to behave like this after 35 years of marriage, something big definitely happened!

Not in this case...
Banana Island did NOT exist 40 years ago.

There’s absolutely NO justification here...
Except that it’s a country (and culture) that he can get away with it.
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Lagoon0:
Lol, your own family . them marry your daughters na. Na your family go marry your daughters.

Don't train your daughters to get good education and get good job, train them on how to cook only and do house chores, na your family go marry them last last.

You're from where actually?
Its been long I see people of such primitivity

Lagoon0:
We don't care much about our daughters after marriage they're self sufficient , theyre also bread winner in their husband house and are well respected there.
Even to the extent that they always come back home to attend our family activities yearly. Nobody command our daughters its marriage of understanding.

The ironic rantings of primordial and crude dude who thinks it’s okay to PRIMITIVELY “chase” a spouse out of the matrimonial home...
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Lagoon0:
Train your daughters to be housewife we don't do that in my family. Our ladies take care of their homes.
Our family is well organized since were all lagosians . your house can't be empty even if you've gone to work. Your siblings will be at home.

Anybody that got chased out from husband house has no one to blame for stupidity when hunger comes.

Childish and churlish drivel...
Fortunately, our own family are not so crude and uncouth as to “chase” spouses out of the matrimonial home. SMH
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vikstandon:
I became scared and careful at the same time about the marriage thing... 95% so far in women have entitlement mentality.

What do you want in a marriage?

Ladies: I want a man that would take care of me.
Men: I want a woman, that would build a home with me.

Birthday.

Ladies: My birthday is tomorrow o, I am in need of handbag, shoes, straight hair, you can also send me cash... My account number is 0113456286 (GTBank)

Men: dem no send... They can even forget the date if bank no remember.

They left their father house...make you take over dey babysit them.

If all the women you date are like this...
The problem well be YOU, and your choices.

Btw, my experience is that INSECURE men always look for women who need taking care of. SMH
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abbey621:
We are arguing A, you're talking about B! Get out of here with the nonsense you just typed, generalization and strawman rhetoric should be left to those who don't know anything about the western world. I have been living and working in the USA for over a decade and my father for over 3 decades, if you're opportuned to reside in Chicago or Bronx NY, you'll see just how much lives are not really valued when it comes to gun violence. The problem with people like you is that you've developed this idea in your head that those in Africa are barbarians while those abroad are the only sane ones, this type of reasoning assumes the Western world is in unision and everyone behaves the same way, this is pure horseshit!

Now back to topic, you assume under any circumstances a man must part with his property and assets when it comes to a divorce even if the reason was attempted murder, you believe a man is not entitled to his house after working all his life to build it but must give it up because he's the stronger sex and his needs are far less than that of a woman. This reasoning can only make sense in societies where men have been relegated to an afterthought, it's like asking a rape victim to allow visitation rights for the rapist to see his son or daughter. I'm not going to argue with you about which world is better because we clearly know there's no competition but becareful about generalization, it is the trait of lazy minded individuals who would rather use semantics than actual logic to push home their point.

Agree with your first paragraph...
Totally disagree with the second.

For starters, dude did NOT build the house alone...
While he was working at the office, someone was working just as hard at home.

Meanwhile, you complain about Strawman Arguments, but indulge in it...
Their divorce is not the result of attempted murder, so what’s the relevance?

Since the kids have apparently left the house...
It should be sold and the proceeds split, or the crude dude can buy her out.
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Lagoon0:
Its foolishness to become jobless because of Love. This is 21st century don't give excuses for Laziness

But they got married in the 20th century...

Anyone who thinks raising kids and running a household is “laziness” is CLUELESS...
In civilized nations, monetary value is ascribed to what housewives do, because if they are not doing it, someone has to be PAID to do it.
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dominique:
Sadly a lot of women relax after marriage and become complacent. They believe they have financial security especially after having kids.

One of the biggest disservice a woman can do to herself is being 100% dependent on a man, especially one that has zero respect for her. In this woman's case now, she has been married for almost 4 decades to a man with six kids. I'm sure in all those 39 years, he must have constantly cheated on her but she kept consoling herself that as long as they're outside and she's the recognized wife, she's ok. Now she has been thrown out of the home she has kept for almost 4 decades, where does she start from?

This should be an eye opener for single ladies not to go into marriage to be a dependant but they no go hear word.

When even women begin to spout such NONSENSE then Nigerian ‘culture’ will remain sexist...
A woman who has supported a man for 40 years has EARNED half of everything acquired in those 40 years! PERIODT!
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LMS1:
So Guys I Was Tired Of Lalasti.clala Showing Us The Snake People Killed,
Thats Why This Tortoise Catched My Attention And I Decided To Buy It
Actually I Traveled To Bayelsa Last Weekend To Visit A Friend When I Spotted A Lady Trying To Sell This Tortoise By The Roadside,
We Pulled Over And She Told Us Its N5,000 Last Price.
I Am Not Use To Tortoise So I Decided To Buy Out Of Curiusity Since We Had A Neighbor Who Knows How To Prepare It Anywere
Funniest Thing Is That The Poor Animal Has Been Digested Since.
Na Only Him Shell Remain Sef!
Omo Tortoise Bone Strong Die

DISGUSTING, DISGRACEFUL AND DESPICABLE!
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Rest In Peace

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This Ned Nwoko dude really looks like a turtle...

www.nairaland.com/attachments/13212981_12066272nedreginaajpege8c8f7fd1a7f2bcac3c36c1e12cd027b_jpeg8c3a32dace5e56b0b9650e3da400df9e

Islie:
as 12 Council Chairmen, traditional rulers endorse action

https://www.newtelegraphng.com/kinsmen-move-to-recall-okorocha-from-senate/

A country of ANYHOWNESS...

I don’t give a duck at all about Rochas Okorocha, but this is sad JOKE...
They’ve either collected money from Uzodimma or they are looking for “transport” money. SMH
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ratiken:
Please can you in concise words define the mainstream Nigeria culture oflof today?

If you objectively answer this question, you will understand how bad things have deteriorated and I feel sad that Nigerians have refused to face the issue to address it.

I am not making a case for the western culture but the current mainstream value system entrenched in the sociocultural system in Nigeria is almost worse than the west. Because hypocrisy is entrenched, we can't speak out.

I grew up in a society where neighbours and relatives will reprimand me if I am naughty even before my parents return... but that communal living have since left Naija

I grew up in a Nigeria where 419 was a trade for old criminals whom the society frowned at. Today, high school students are into Internet fraud and so called yahoo boys are the big boys of the hood. The Nigerian society hypocritically celebrate them.

Growing up, cheating someone in business will have the society frowning at you. Today, its normal to cheat someone in business and be referred to as the sharp guy. The average Nigerian you engage in trade or business is out to cheat you if you lose your guard

Growing up, prostitution was in brothels and men who patronise prostitutes sneak in and out to avoid the societal label. Today, girls less than 15 have started plying their trade online. Runs is the real deal and you are slow if you aint part of the game. Even the society acknowledges that a lady need to sleep with politicians to buy a decent car or build a house. Sit back and imagine the impact of these on the psyche of the girl child.

Our political leadership are offshoots of our societal values. We now export fraud and prostitution.

Bandits, bokoharam, herdsmen murdering hundreds, raping and burning settlements are also Nigerians.... we should not ever forget that.

Infact, the Nigerians who make us proud were either not trained in Nigeria or were trained in Nigeria but plying their trade abroad (and their kids are not been trained here)

I can write multi pages on this. The value system of the supposed Nigerian system is badly eroded almost beyond redemption.

The only redeemable part of the Nigerian culture resides in the hands of parents who are determined to train their kid the right way and make the sacrifice to achieve such. And this can be achieved both in Nigeria, US or any part of the world.

Anyone who attempts to allow the Nigerian society train their kids like we grew up in the 70s or 80s will have a very terrible outcome

Nigerian culture is NOT monolithic (after all, it’s a hodge podge of over 200 ethnicities).
As already acknowledged, culture changes, but what you describing is NOT necessarily culture.

As I mentioned elsewhere on this thread, it is NOT mere coincidence that Nigerians and Nigerian-Americans in the US (and even to some degree, in the UK) overachieve the indigenous population. Why don’t those Nigerians (even the ones who arrived as adults or recently) cheat, defraud and prostitute themselves to the extent that people perceive to be prevalent in Nigerian urban society (of course there will always be outliers and exceptions)? Why do you think Nigerians athletes in the US also always seem to do well academically (when they clearly do not NEED to) and are almost always universally described as well-behaved and respectful? Why do think most other immigrant groups in the US have not replicated the same level of general success, if the X factor is the US rather than an underlying cultural value system? The reality is that while some successful Nigerians unfortunately think they have done so inspite of Nigeria, truth is they have done so precisely because they’re Nigerian!

Anyway, as previously noted, it’s always good counsel to be wary of the dangers of the single narrative. Life/culture is complicated.
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Soolmus:
I really dont want to fuel this gender issue ,so I will give premesis that prompted me to give the olosho business phrase

Firstly; she leaves in a house almost repossessed for debt incurred by a married man... If your dad or husband bought an asset on bank loan for a concubine, please what would you call her, hardworking woman or olosho?!

Secondly the lending bank has investors and shareholders who are poor common men yet their money is linked to a house in Lekki and Banana island with millions in cars

What do you want people to call someone who seats on people's investment

Learning is a lifelong experience....
So, instead of doubling-down on crude MISOGYNY, just learn and grow.

While I do not personally know Toke and therefore do not necessarily hold brief for her...
What exactly does that since-denied Internet gossip have to do with the OP about growing her bag, scarves and perfumes brand?

Dude, take this as a learning opportunity and DO BETTER!
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