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openmine:

Oga this post is at best laughable and shows you are just arguing for the sake of it!

This is straightforward....if indeed you have worked in an oil company, you will know that wearing an overall kit is a must for safety reasons and for comfort esp during field work.... and no sir,she can't be excused from not wearing the overall kit because its non negotiable and a prerequisite for ALL staffs who work at the oil company to wear such kits!

If such person says wearing trousers like the overall kit is a 'taboo' to her,she can simply resign and look for another job that doesn't require her to put on an overall trouser which is the same as a lady applying for an nysc exemption if she feels wearing a khaki trouser goes against her beliefs!

She cannot decide to design and wear a 'skirt overall' and go do her field work at an oil company... she will simply get queried or even fired for disobeying a rule that she is already aware of!
Its that simple!

Like I have said which you have explicitly failed to comprehend, NYSC service is NOT BY FORCE!
Alternatively,such lady can apply for an NYSC EXEMPTION!

Sadly, some people read but don’t understand...
The result of Nigeria’s “repeat-after-me” school system.

9jaRealist:
Again, people read but don’t seem to comprehend...

For the umpteenth time, the rational question should be what is the purpose of the ‘requirement’ and could the purpose be satisfied in other ways? Accordingly, if people cannot do “oil field work” without overalls (presumably for safety reasons) then the response would be ‘no’ that it cannot be satisfied otherwise. However, (1) when oil company workers leave their “field work” they are NOT required to wear same overall in the offices, and (2) this woman was most definitely NOT engaged in anything remotely “oil field work” (I already noted that it makes sense to wear appropriate attire for training and drills).

Sadly, this mentality to mindlessly “obey the last order” and the attendant elevation of rules for its sake instead of for its purpose betrays the dearth of initiative and lack of disruptive innovation so pervasive in Nigeria.
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inoki247:
See fools chanting Allah Akhbar dey av looted ur Future u trying to disturb investigations on earth when e waz looting the states e no chant Allah Akhbar #UnaMumuNoGoEverDo

I’ve often said that Nigerians are COMPLICIT in their own condition...
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Mk12:
he may have even looted their brains

Comment of the Week...
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Raydos:
God created our private parts and said we should keep it private, So if you're flaunting it, it means you are automatically working for Satan helping him to gain more people in hell!!

It means you're working for Satan, and he will be so proud of you!!

Was it the “God” who created and delivered you NAKED called it “private part” or you?
Being socially ashamed of natural reproductive organs are reflective of human shortcomings, not “God’s”!
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ornicus:
a lot of Christians are irritated by women in hijab.[they call them ninjas and other such slurs.] some in positions of power use the opportunity to make their lives difficult] they automatically regard them as i have had lecturers in school speak out against the impracticality of hijab fall silent when asked about the practicality of a nun's habit. you will be a hypocrite if you refuse to acknowledge that there is often a double standard where people will cite the rules for one set of people and let it slide for another set of people.

the nysc people from that video, are not acting like professionals, but rather, they are mocking her. so in the end, i cannot say if they are actually concerned with doing their job and enforcing the rules, or if they are just being bigots. that lady has been wearing that skirt all through her service year. are they just seeing it for the first time?

a lot of people who complain about religious intolerance are ultimately hypocrites. a lot of Christians who talk about freedom of religion regularly celebrate each other for burning up and destroying shrines of traditional worshipers. they do not remember Nigeria is a secular country at that time.

a lot of racism is always wrapped up in 'enforcement of the rules'

Sadly, I suspect that the overwhelming undercurrent at play here...
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openmine:
Oga the rules are simple!
No need for too much talk!
Lets say she is working at an oil company and the requirement to go into a field work is that you must wear your overall,will she then make an overall skirt?

Obey the rules or request for an exemption certificate!
Its that simple!
no one put a gun to her head to wear trouser!

Again, people read but don’t seem to comprehend...

For the umpteenth time, the rational question should be what is the purpose of the ‘requirement’ and could the purpose be satisfied in other ways? Accordingly, if people cannot do “oil field work” without overalls (presumably for safety reasons) then the response would be ‘no’ that it cannot be satisfied otherwise. However, (1) when oil company workers leave their “field work” they are NOT required to wear same overall in the offices, and (2) this woman was most definitely NOT engaged in anything remotely resembling “field work” (I already noted that it makes sense to wear appropriate attire for training and drills).

Sadly, this mentality to mindlessly “obey the last order” and the attendant elevation of rules for its sake instead of for its purpose betrays the dearth of initiative and lack of disruptive innovation so pervasive in Nigeria.
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NwaAmaikpe:
This isn't fair.
Must we slutshame every slut we see?
I will not be a party to any name calling.

dirtydiva:
Twerk hard big mama, afterall na your body go hear am so no need listening to peoples quote. Ashawo wey make up her mind to turn her pvssy to commercial entity doesn't care if STDs dey so far as niggas go follow her go down.

The usual crude Nigerian misogyny never fails to show up...

A woman fights her way up to the top of her profession in a sexist and misogynistic society, achieving both domestic and international success and recognition, does not depend on the government or handouts for a living, takes care of her own child and family without b*tching to anyone about it, engenders goodwill for Nigeria/Nigerians across Africa and beyond (where both are otherwise usually seen only as a basket case and fraud and drug specialists) as a veritable cultural ambassador, etc., etc., but if it makes a couple of losers on Nairaland feel better about their own lives to put her down and denigrate her, please get at it hoss. SMDH.
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Some Nigerians keep babbling on about “husband” as if it’s the world’s greatest achievement...
Sadly that’s one of the reasons that some women persist with and remain in abusive marriages.
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Raydos:
Satan will be so proud of you girls!!!

You rock!!

Because it’s “Satan” that created breasts?
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raphy:
just looking at her pics I see yekini.

playing for Nigeria won't guaranteed that when u die they will take care of ur Old parents.

the country is not worth dieing for but still yet boko haram will use some one do suya..

God help this shit hole.

But Yekini did not die for Nigeria...
He played for Nigeria which afforded him the platform to earn wealth beyond most humans.

Nevertheless, the reason that we are here discussing the plight of this old lady and how she might be helped is precisely because Yekini played for Nigeria, and as others already pointed out there have been several other fundraisers and interventions for her. Perhaps it time to look at if there are family members/relatives taking advantage of her, because (as I often say) Nigerians are the worst thing to happen to Nigeria!
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Pvssy:
Those countries you listed don't joke with the families of people and people who have served the country. Go cross check.

It's never a case of substance and shadow. Thy labour of our heroes past is already in vain

Again, what does that have to do with BBN?!

Don’t really want to belabor the discussion (lest people mistake my position as being unsympathetic to the plight of someone unfortunate), but military veterans in the US constitute one of (if not) the largest segments of the homeless population. In football, someone like former England international Malcolm MacDonald died broke and penniless. It’s not an uplifting part of the human story but it’s not peculiar to Nigeria.
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favour32:
Very correct!
No old people home in Nigeria.
Politicians steal everything in the past decades and now. Advance countries have such homes.
It is a very big risk to grow old in Nigeria without
having anyone related. You will die in the street alone!
Black man is so wicked.

There are many old people’s home in Nigeria...
Including more than 10 in Ibadan (at Dugbe, Oluyole Estate, Ikolaba, etc).
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PapaAdanna:
Nigeria

If I were to be a footballer

If I play for this nation... Make my left balll lost

Imagine the mother of the legend in Nigeria?

Fortunately, you don’t have to worry about that...

Personally, I feel very sorry for the poor woman and hope the state government or the NFF would render some assistance to her, but let’s be clear about one thing - playing for Nigeria afforded a poor semi-educated individual like Yekini (and so many others) the immeasurable opportunity to traverse the globe and earn material wealth well beyond the vast majority of human beings on this planet Earth!
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Pvssy:
Damn!

And we busy lavishing and promoting one stupid show called BBN where pre-marital sex, romance, nudity, substance abuse and all ills in the world are exhubited.

This is one of the reasons it can't be well with this country.

It's a curse. God just using our leaders and pastors to manifest it on our populace.

What has BBN to do with anything?!

Are all other countries that have Big Brother (US, UK, Sweden, Brazil, etc.) as damaged as Nigeria?
Nope! One reason “it can’t be well with this country” is that we leave substance and chase shadows.
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Kapeter:
overpopulation man. Lagos is the smallest state in Nigeria but with almost highest population, prolly little behind Kano et all. So it will continue to be like that. FG is trying to push people to Ibadan with that rail, port and now the airport is fully functioning, the population will reduce a little. Ibadan can contain all of them buh them no wan go because everyone wan famz "i be Lagosian."

dejibanjo:
That's not how to move people to other states. People mostly migrate due to economic oppportunity, so unless there are jobs in ibadan, folks will rather remain in Lagos to hustle.
It will probably get worse when the refinery in Lekki becomes funtional. FG and other states really need to wake up, cos apart from 3-4 states that are economically relevant, the rest are just civil service states.

Folks do not need to go all the way to Ibadan...
Ogun State is already the “New Jersey” to Lagos’ “New York”.

The reality is that many parts of Ogun State have effectively become ‘suburbs’ of a huge sprawling Lagos Megapolis, and many folks who work or otherwise do business in Lagos but seek cheaper housing or land have elected to reside in Ogun State. This has been particularly given a boost with the network of 21 border roads and bridges completed in the border areas of Alimosho under Amobode, as well as the ongoing project to add a BRT lane to the Lagos-Abeokuta Expressway all the way to Ota Toll Gate. Accordingly, many Lagos-based manufacturers have relocated or built new factories in Ogun State (Agbara and Ota especially) while maintaining their corporate offices in Lagos.

PS: In respect of the new Dangote Refinery, one would think that the new multi-tiered Alaro City being developed in Ibeju under a PPP arrangement with Rendeavor, which is reputedly Africa’s biggest new city developer, will absorb most of the new population of the LFTZ.
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megafaraday:
I wonder what LSPWC has been doing for the past 4years. If they had been working like they are now Lagos roads won't be in this degenerate state.

twilliamx:
Ambode scrapped them

Nope, he didn’t...

If he did, how would they be working today? Even before Sanwo-Olu’s first budget?
The only difference is that under Ambode, LSPWC would mostly send out in work gangs at night.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkFlwYjX4AIOxCr.jpg
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hamid6249:
I live in lagos ...I can boldly say that Lagos is an over hyped city , bad roads, thugs everywhere, insecurity , pick pockets , agbero wahala ....6 out of 10 people in IKEJA ( a whole state capital)are out there to dupe you ...phone snatchers are kings and untouchable in some part of lagos ...over population to mention a few

The city is over hyped

You can always leave Lagos...
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openmine:
Oga the uniform she converted to skirt is used for 'physical training' not for formal presentation like the picture you presented!
Secondly,there are rules governing the wearing of trousers,if the person does not like such,he or she can forfeit the service and apply for an exemption!
Once you permit one person to wear skirt,the next person will wear shorts!
There is a reason why it was called 'UNIFORM'

Uniformity is NOT synonymous with identical...
As already pointed, female Nigerian army officers may wear skirts (see below).

Even in football, players may wear short or long sleeves on the same team...
Players may even wear different colors of shoes, and of course goalkeepers wears a different color.

Rules are made for people (and by people), and not vice versa...
Thus key question is to what end the rules were made for, and is there only ONE way to achieve it.

9jaRealist:
Nigerian female army generals can wear skirts...

https://www.army.mil.ng/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Maj-Gen-OA-OgunbiyiL-handing-over-the-mantle-of-command-to-Maj-Gen-AO-Amusu-400x260.jpg
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openmine:
Oga the uniform she converted to skirt is used for 'physical training' not for formal presentation like the picture you presented!
Secondly,there are rules governing the wearing of trousers,if the person does not like such,he or she can forfeit the service and apply for an exemption!
Once you permit one person to wear skirt,the next person will wear shorts!
There is a reason why it was called 'UNIFORM'

Although I am wary of drifting off the main point...
Exactly what’s wrong with wearing shorts (so long as they’re regulated like the pants)?

Military forces in many parts of the world sometimes wear shorts...
So what exactly is amiss with uni graduates wearing shorts in HOT HUMID Nigeria?

I realize that regrettably many Nigerians were reared on a diet of “repeat-after-me” in the cram-and-regurgitate methodology of what passes for ‘education’ in much of Nigeria, but (for seemingly the zillionth time) rules should NEVER be an end of itself. Sadly, that tendency to blindly and mindlessly follow rules has apparently manifested itself in the attendant incapacity (or perhaps inability, but I desperately hope not) to imbibe the sorts of disruptive culture that fosters innovation.
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laudate:
Sir, you are the one who cannot comprehend anything, as you keep repeating the same points ad nauseum, and posting the same pictures, without taking into cognisance the reason behind the dress code of those in the pictures you posted.

When women are undergoing recruitment exercises, drills or even carrying out physical training in the armed forces, they do not wear skirts.

They are also expected to be wearing shorts or trousers on the field, carrying out physical fitness exercises.

The pictures you posted are dress uniforms for foreign armed forces, which are worn on social occasions, during parades, patrols, in the officers mess, or during desk duties.

Combatant uniform does not permit skirts for women.

There are specific rules and periods, which dictate when such skirts can be worn.

You are trying to make it seem as if skirts are accepted in all events, as part of armed forces uniform.

It is not. It is restricted to specific events, certain cadres and specific duties.

The NYSC unlike the armed forces does not have a cadet corps, or an officers corp. Every participant is the same.

Which is why all participant dress alike in the same uniform.

And till now, there is no reason to change the khaki trousers worn by the corp members into a skirt.

All your long epistles will not alter this fact.

BTW, was the lady in that you are specifically obsessed with in the clip undergoing “drills”?
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laudate:
Oga, your second part had nothing but the sane repetitive complaints, you had been recycling since the begining of this discourse.

Yet again, it helps if you actually read AND comprehend...
It’s NOT happenstance that I specifically chose a pic with DIFFERENT types of female uniforms.
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laudate:
Sir, you are the one who cannot comprehend anything, as you keep repeating the same points ad nauseum, and posting the same pictures, without taking into cognisance the reason behind the dress code of those in the pictures you posted.

When women are undergoing recruitment exercises, drills or even carrying out physical training in the armed forces, they do not wear skirts.

They are also expected to be wearing shorts or trousers on the field, carrying out physical fitness exercises.

The pictures you posted are dress uniforms for foreign armed forces, which are worn on social occasions, during parades, patrols, in the officers mess, or during desk duties.

Combatant uniform does not permit skirts for women.

There are specific rules and periods, which dictate when such skirts can be worn.

You are trying to make it seem as if skirts are accepted in all events, as part of armed forces uniform.

It is not. It is restricted to specific events, certain cadres and specific duties.

The NYSC unlike the armed forces does not have a cadet corps, or an officers corp. Every participant is the same.

Which is why all participant dress alike in the same uniform.

And till now, there is no reason to change the khaki trousers worn by the corp members into a skirt.

All your long epistles will not alter this fact.

That must be what the highlighted below looks like to a dogmatic demagogue...

9jaRealist:
All over the world, military uniforms may also include skirts...
She can still wear a skirt and use pants (or other appropriate outfit) for physical training.

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laudate:
Sir, you are the one who cannot comprehend anything, as you keep repeating the same points ad nauseum, and posting the same pictures, without taking into cognisance the reason behind the dress code of those in the pictures you posted.

When women are undergoing recruitment exercises, drills or even carrying out physical training in the armed forces, they do not wear skirts.

They are also expected to be wearing shorts or trousers on the field, carrying out physical fitness exercises.

The pictures you posted are dress uniforms for foreign armed forces, which are worn on social occasions, during parades, patrols, in the officers mess, or during desk duties.

Combatant uniform does not permit skirts for women.

There are specific rules and periods, which dictate when such skirts can be worn.

You are trying to make it seem as if skirts are accepted in all events, as part of armed forces uniform.

It is not. It is restricted to specific events, certain cadres and specific duties.

The NYSC unlike the armed forces does not have a cadet corps, or an officers corp. Every participant is the same.

Which is why all participant dress alike in the same uniform.

And till now, there is no reason to change the khaki trousers worn by the corp members into a skirt.

All your long epistles will not alter this fact.

Nope! You retain that dubious honor or just chose to indulge in cheap sophistry...
The post I made had two INTERTWINED parts but you chose to ignore the second.
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gazza07:
mechie eze ure!!! Stop lying bro. Lagos is top in terms of federal allocations. Then federal presence is highest. Lagos is one of the mistaking Nigerians is sitting on and making repeatedly. Lagos needs to be decongest in all aspect. Then others states will develop to their maximum pontential. America with 50 states and each state needs each other to survive. Lagos needs no states or no one, but all states including FCT and everyone in the country needs Lagos to survive. How is that a kudos to the cou3

Again, not true...

Apart from the ports, there’s no substantial “federal presence” (or assets) in Lagos...
You could add the MM Airport as well, but there are 22 federal airports across Nigeria.
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laudate:
Oga you are just arguing blindly on a subject that is irrelevant.

Wearing a pair of trousers is not a health hazard, that can be minimised or mitigated by wearing a skirt.

Secondly, the lady's defiant attitude in altering the uniform without seeking permission, portrays her as an indisciplined person.

If you like, keep ranting from today till tomorrow, NYSC uniform is not going to change. The khaki trouser will not give way automatically to a skirt, to please the idiosyncratic whims and religious fancies, of some faceless females.

And all your long epistles will not change it.

If they don't like the NYSC uniform, it is not by force for them to serve. Let them boycott the scheme.

For the umpteenth time...
https://www.nairaland.com/5338920/ogun-corper-stopped-clearance-converting

9jaRealist:
Nigerians love shadows over substance...

Rules are necessary and important but are NOT an end in of itself...
What do the rules seek to achieve? Is there another way to achieve same?
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Meanwhile, I will keep “arguing blindly” until Nigerians imbibe a culture of tolerance/respect for diversity.
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laudate:
NYSC had not changed the uniform or altered it, to accommodate skirts as there is no need to do so.

I asked you earlier, is there anything she can do wearing g a skirt that she cannot do while wearing trousers? You have not provided a coherent answer.

Instead, you continue whining about reasonable requests, and drawing untenable comparisons.

Why you are now advocating for an item of dressing to be changed is rather frivolous. It is not about being a zombie. It is about the purpose for which the uniform was designed.

If she had to do man-o'-war exercises during orientation camp, by climbing the ropes and jumping under the poles, would she be able to do so wearing a skirt? Not likely. Those under the rope bridge would see her undies, in all its colourful glory.

And in order to avoid such a situation, I bet she would try to avoid taking part in such exercises. Another contravention of the rules.

Even during physical exercises in secondary schools, you still find girls who wear skirts for PE making sure they wear shorts or leggings under such skirts to avoid indecent exposure.

So why bother with the skirts on the 1st place?

A case of reading but not comprehending?!

9jaRealist:
All over the world, military uniforms may also include skirts...
She can still wear a skirt and use pants (or other appropriate outfit) for physical training.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ea/US-NEW-CLASS-A-UNIFORM.png
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laudate:
If rules were bent to suit the whims and fancy of each participant, what would be the result? Chaos. Rules are made to enforce order, maintain discipline, and achieve certain outcomes.

Asking for rules to be bent so that you can wear a skirt, instead of the approved khaki pair of trousers, is nothing short of frivolous.

If there were health grounds to justify such a request, then it might make a bit of sense. But trying to bend the rules out of a misguided sense of religiosity, is the height of indiscipline. There is nothing rational about her act of indiscipline. It doesn't matter if she is born again, born before or born afterwards.

Nobody gave her approval to wear a skirt. There is even no indication that she had sought for permission beforehand from the authorities to do so. She chose to discard the approved uniform, and invent her own outfit. What is that called, if not breaking the rules?

Let her live with the consequences of her actions.

I see now you are using “bent” to give it a negative connotation...

Meanwhile, you are focusing SOLELY on this one case rather than the concept that I am actually discussing (which admittedly would encompass this one particular case but stretches well beyond it), but there used to be rules and regulations governing where people were allowed to serve (or more precisely not allowed to serve) until those were changed to ACCOMMODATE reasonable matrimonial and other familial realities. For the umpteenth time, these rules and regulations are not bequeathed by Omnipotence but are made by civil/public servants and thus could be reasonably changed to accommodate reasonable realities.

What you have CONSISTENTLY failed to explain is exactly how changing the rules to accommodate skirts (which would be regulated in exactly the same manners as pants currently are) would INFRINGE on other corpers - except to keep repeating that it would be “different” as if difference is inherently a bad thing. SMH
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gazza07:
mechie eze ure!!! Stop lying bro. Lagos is top in terms of federal allocations. Then federal presence is highest. Lagos is one of the mistaking Nigerians is sitting on and making repeatedly. Lagos needs to be decongest in all aspect. Then others states will develop to their maximum pontential. America with 50 states and each state needs each other to survive. Lagos needs no states or no one, but all states including FCT and everyone in the country needs Lagos to survive. How is that a kudos to the cou3

Nope, it’s not...
Akwa Ibom, Bayelsa, Delta and Rivers states all receive HIGHER allocations than Lagos.

Lagos relies on IGR for over 80% of its budget...
And reason Lagos is “congested” is people (Nigerians and non-Nigerians) “voting” with their feet and wallets.
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Badgers14:
The PPP arrangement is not the PPP you have in mind.. most of those "private" companies are actually public money in a private company names, that's why the private" part of the deal are not worried because another money from the govt coffers will enter their akant!!

In this case, it is...
Because this project was largely financed by Translink Capital.
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Famosfavour:
Very soon Nigerian army go begin wear skirt too

As do police (and even naval) officers...

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Famosfavour:
Very soon Nigerian army go begin wear skirt too

Nigerian female army generals can wear skirts...

https://www.army.mil.ng/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Maj-Gen-OA-OgunbiyiL-handing-over-the-mantle-of-command-to-Maj-Gen-AO-Amusu-400x260.jpg
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laudate:
Good. And successful employees follow rules and do not bend or twist such rules, to suit their own hidden agendas, or to pander to their own selfish whims.

The problem is that some of you are too jaundiced to be reasonable...
Bet if this was a Born-Again “Christian” the vitriol would not be so strident.

There’s NOWHERE that I campaigned for (nor even implied that) anyone to break the rules...
My point has CONSISTENTLY been that reasonable accommodations be made for reasonable observances.

But instead of hearing RATIONAL responses...
All one hears is that “rules are rules” as if rules exist in a vacuum (or are bequeathed by Omnipotence).
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