₦airaland Forum

Timoleon:
Enjoy your musings while the exodus continues. Salam.

“Exodus” does not alter people’s biological nationality nor ancestry…
There are literally millions of US, UK, French, Chinese, etc., people spread across the globe.

The notion that all Nigerians must live in Nigeria is both primitive and counterproductive…
Nonetheless, Nigeria’s condition is the culmination of the varying actions of ALL Nigerians by commission or omission (including exiting).
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Prince001:
It's Sad cos those people should have done it for Africa instead of their adopted country or continent.

It’s not mutually exclusive…
The Italian 100m winner is also an American.

There’s nothing “sad” about it…
When Giannis won the NBA title, he used the global platform to try to inspire Nigerian/African kids.

This the 21st century….
Instead of focusing on “tribal” national enclaves, these phenomena highlights our SHARED humanity.
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Timoleon:
Citizens are part of country, govts make countries citizens can be proud of.
These Nigerians representing other countries are not doing it from their pockets. They are doing it because those countries provide enabling ground and environment for growth. Right from their lower schools to higher institutions to professional level. There is a defined path if you choose to dedicate yourself to it. The policy of growth and development has to be institutionalized not a policy of corruption.

Countries where athletes have it all to do by themselves are the ones that rarely do well on the global stage. Not because their individual citizens don’t have the potentials but because they have been neglected by their governments.

We fielded basketball teams mostly filled with American based players despite having our own leagues but who can blame the coaches? If the coaches had gone with players from our poorly managed leagues imagine we’d even qualify for the Olympics?

Look around you and see talents abound. Look around you and ask what platforms are available for the common man to harness, enhance showcase and excel with his talents?
I leave you with this pic below.

Citizens are NOT just “part of the country”…
Citizens ARE the country, and even the government is made up of CITIZENS!

PS: Btw, the NBA, where most of those “American based players” were drawn from…
Is NOT a government institution. It is NOT “managed” by the US government, but by private CITIZENS!
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Timoleon:
Victor Moses did not proudly represent Nigeria. He was only good enough for Nigeria. What professional footballer with love for their father land retires at 27 (peak football age)?

Er…Victor was “good enough” to represent ENGLAND at U16, U17, U19 and U21 levels…
Including starting for the England U21 team just about a year before opting to play for the Super Eagles.
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Timoleon:
Victor Moses did not proudly represent Nigeria. He was only good enough for Nigeria. What professional footballer with love for their father land retires at 27 (peak football age)?

Seems proud enough to most RATIONAL people…
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Sysdatek:
India has the biggest refinery
And Indians are building your refinery
Are you not aware of sabotage
His Indian managers own choice property all over the globe while treating his staff like clowns

I hope dangote wakes up

Indians are NOT building the Dangote Refinery…
The main EPC contractor is Chinese, but Nigerians and Westerners are also involved.

Btw, the fertilizer plant is already up and running…
And has EXPORTED products to the US and Brazil in July!
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seunmsg:
I’m finding it very difficult to believe this story. The fact that it was published by Sahara reporters even made it more unbelievable. Hopefully, Dangote will issue a statement later to debunk what Sahara reporters is speculating.

Sadly, the “article” is a succinct example of functional ILLITERACY that often dominates public discourse and commentary in Nigeria…
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dre11:
Dangote May Forfeit Refinery Project To Nigerian Debt Recovery Agency Over Rising Debts, Long Delay
http://saharareporters.com/2021/08/10/africas-richest-man-dangote-may-forfeit-refinery-project-nigerian-debt-recovery-agency

“The $8.4 million debt represents 75% of Dangote’s net worth of $11.1 billion…”

SHEER ILLITERACY!

First, there’s a difference between personal debt and corporate debt…
Furthermore, a ledger has TWO columns - assets and liabilities. The $8.4 billion debt is OFFSET by the value of the refinery.

The ILLITERATE who wrote this “article” thinks this like the money the writer would borrow from his in-laws to buy boli…
On the corporation’s balance sheet, the value of the refinery is ADDED to its assets, and that’s likely to be MORE than any debt.
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dre11:
Dangote May Forfeit Refinery Project To Nigerian Debt Recovery Agency Over Rising Debts, Long Delay
http://saharareporters.com/2021/08/10/africas-richest-man-dangote-may-forfeit-refinery-project-nigerian-debt-recovery-agency

The juvenile clueless (and mostly tribalistic) anti-Dangote drivel continues…
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Fejoku:
Do you think orphaned survivors of fulani killings should proudly go and represent Nigeria in an international event presently?

Even though you clearly missed the point…
Victor Moses is reportedly an orphan whose parents were killed in Kaduna, but proudly represented Nigeria.

Ultimately, a country is built or DESTROYED by its citizens…
Nigeria’s condition is a culmination of the varying actions of ALL Nigerians by commission or omission (including Fulanis).

PS: Btw, are Fulanis the only killers in Nigeria?
Otherisms is primordial demagoguery, while ethnic siblings also slaughter each other in Umeleri-Aguleri, Ogoni-Andoni, Ife-Modake, etc.
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Prince001:
Check below out:

Good one…
Always happy for achieving Nigerians/Africans, regardless of the color of their jerseys.
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Maryjane001:
Kudos to them. I m even happy they played for other teams.

Always thrilled and happy at the accomplishment of ANY Nigerian…
Even if they happen to be representing another one of their countries (like Giannis)!
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Fejoku:
Someone with a questionable thinking faculty will still come on air to say Nigeria will be better. When I was young, there was hope after hearing such statements because I could see around me people doing exploits in all endeavours while representing Nigeria. There was relative peace even when the infrastructure was poor. Food was cheap and the society was saner. Today, non of these is available. It is a great deceit to continue to make that statement. Everything is in shambles. Nigeria is practically a Hobessian society- a totally failed state. Hundreds are slaughtered and nobody talks. People just move on with life as they await their own turn for slaughtering. God forbid bad thing.

Prince001:
They won't! cos the country is not friendly at all to his Citizen!! Do u know the benefit we get to be living in another country? Good paying job, less police harassment, Good health system and so on. How can a country that says they have not much money but their senator earns more than the United States of America President? The citizens are crying every day, things are getting increasingly crazy expensive and the minimum wage is 18k wowwww.Heartless Politicians!!!!

Citizens MAKE a country, not vice versa…
Meanwhile, athletes represent countries and NOT governments.
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dab217x:
How can you represent a country that don't have time for its citizen, how can u be proud of a country that don't value their citizens. Pathetic

Citizens MAKE a country, not vice versa…
Meanwhile, athletes represent countries and NOT governments.
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Maryjane001:
There were many other Nigerians that played for other countries.

She actually WON a medal (a gold medal), which is what the article is supposed to be about…
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Sheuns:
They’re no longer Nigerians please. If they had chosen to represent Nigeria, they would have been disqualified or given just one jersey for the entire Olympic Games.

People are allowed to hold more than one nationality…
Not everyone are primordial and ‘tribal’ like many Nairalanders.
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Esseite:
https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/478265-tokyo-olympics-five-nigerians-who-won-medals-for-other-countries.html

Article left out Chiaka OGBOGU who was a member of the gold medal USA female volleyball team…
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Hulaballon:
They should kill her already

The difference between many Nigerians and SARS is simply the badge - most are naturally PRIMITIVE! SMH
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SamuelOamen:
By Robert Egbe
https://thenationonlineng.net/super-tv-boss-murder-prisons-pamper-chidinma-with-special-car-ride/

GOOD!
Suspects are presumed innocent and ALL suspects should be treated humanely - even Nnamdi Kanu and Sunday Igboho!
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Deadlytruth:
It is quite funny that you isolated resource control from all other elements of restructuring I mentioned e.g. LCDAs among other Lagos State centripetal policies I hinted at.
Secondly, the massive looting at Abuja is actually made possible by the presence there of a huge centralized purse courtesy of the current system. But on the contrary, resource control will actually reduce looting considering the fact that what will be available at each state will be at an average of one thirty sixth of what you presently have concentrated in Abuja so there will be less available to loot. Moreover, resource control will awaken the residents of all states to their responsibility of constantly demanding accountably from their governors and commissioners as the revenues in their states will come from their own sweat rather than as manna from Abuja. With resource control a lot of non-viable local government areas especially in the North will collapse and falsification of census figures will become unnecessary hence die a natural death. All these endless agitation for creation of more states will end once it becomes a law that each state will run her own affairs with funds generated from within her domains hence it will no longer be an issue of social injustice for the North to have 19 states against the South's 17 and that is if some Northern States don't collapse into others. Then with a leaner central purse courtesy of resource control, the federal government will be forced to stop contemplating crazy and wasteful policies like amnesty package for militans, bandits and terrorists; sponsoring of religious pilgrimages; tradermoni largesse; subsidy payments for importation of refined petroleum products and edibles like rice, chicken, and others; there will no longer enough funds to sustain the jumbo allowance of senators and representatives thus politics will become unattractive to political investors and therefore become a venture for accomplished veterans in different fields who will bring their professional experiences to bear on legislative business. Each state government will have no option than to look inwards into untapped resources in their respective states. Political investors will therefore be forced to invest in the real sector to the effect of stimulating productivity towards diversification thus reversing our net importer situation which is responsible for the ever falling value of the Naira to all other world currencies. All this will birth a new socio-economic order where every pay is earned as against the current one which encourages entitlement mentality, rent seeking, laziness, political thuggery, propensity towards TV shows like BB Naija, etc.
Positions like yours over this resource control question usually come from people who don't see the bigger picture.

Btw, James Ibori (and there are many others) did NOT have to go to Abuja to LOOT massively…
The notion that “resource control” (so-called, instead of loot reallocation) would magically increase accountability is delusional.
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Deadlytruth:
It is quite funny that you isolated resource control from all other elements of restructuring I mentioned e.g. LCDAs among other Lagos State centripetal policies I hinted at.
Secondly, the massive looting at Abuja is actually made possible by the presence there of a huge centralized purse courtesy of the current system. But on the contrary, resource control will actually reduce looting considering the fact that what will be available at each state will be at an average of one thirty sixth of what you presently have concentrated in Abuja so there will be less available to loot. Moreover, resource control will awaken the residents of all states to their responsibility of constantly demanding accountably from their governors and commissioners as the revenues in their states will come from their own sweat rather than as manna from Abuja. With resource control a lot of non-viable local government areas especially in the North will collapse and falsification of census figures will become unnecessary hence die a natural death. All these endless agitation for creation of more states will end once it becomes a law that each state will run her own affairs with funds generated from within her domains hence it will no longer be an issue of social injustice for the North to have 19 states against the South's 17 and that is if some Northern States don't collapse into others. Then with a leaner central purse courtesy of resource control, the federal government will be forced to stop contemplating crazy and wasteful policies like amnesty package for militans, bandits and terrorists; sponsoring of religious pilgrimages; tradermoni largesse; subsidy payments for importation of refined petroleum products and edibles like rice, chicken, and others; there will no longer enough funds to sustain the jumbo allowance of senators and representatives thus politics will become unattractive to political investors and therefore become a venture for accomplished veterans in different fields who will bring their professional experiences to bear on legislative business. Each state government will have no option than to look inwards into untapped resources in their respective states. Political investors will therefore be forced to invest in the real sector to the effect of stimulating productivity towards diversification thus reversing our net importer situation which is responsible for the ever falling value of the Naira to all other world currencies. All this will birth a new socio-economic order where every pay is earned as against the current one which encourages entitlement mentality, rent seeking, laziness, political thuggery, propensity towards TV shows like BB Naija, etc.
Positions like yours over this resource control question usually come from people who don't see the bigger picture.

The IRONY of your dissertation is that restructuring was NOT needed to create the LCDAs…
The only thing states CANNOT do is create LGAs because it requires a constitutional amendment (which is eediotic btw).

Meanwhile, some might point out that even with the LCDAs, the state government is still primarily responsible for practical all development in Lagos State - including basics like building/rehabilitating inner streets, patching up portholes on local streets (through LSPWC), primary healthcare centers, neighborhood skill development and recreational centers and facilities, social housing, primary and secondary schools, garbage disposal and waste management (through LAWMA), gutters and canals, streetlights, neighborhood watch (through LNSC), parks and greenery (through LASPARK), among other basically LOCAL governance responsibilities. Leaves rational people pondering what exactly these LCDAs do (perhaps other than providing jobs and perks for politicians and their Agberos). But let’s continue to fixate over the shadow of “restructuring” instead of concentrating the substance of good governance.
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Deadlytruth:
It is quite funny that you isolated resource control from all other elements of restructuring I mentioned e.g. LCDAs among other Lagos State centripetal policies I hinted at.
Secondly, the massive looting at Abuja is actually made possible by the presence there of a huge centralized purse courtesy of the current system. But on the contrary, resource control will actually reduce looting considering the fact that what will be available at each state will be at an average of one thirty sixth of what you presently have concentrated in Abuja so there will be less available to loot. Moreover, resource control will awaken the residents of all states to their responsibility of constantly demanding accountably from their governors and commissioners as the revenues in their states will come from their own sweat rather than as manna from Abuja. With resource control a lot of non-viable local government areas especially in the North will collapse and falsification of census figures will become unnecessary hence die a natural death. All these endless agitation for creation of more states will end once it becomes a law that each state will run her own affairs with funds generated from within her domains hence it will no longer be an issue of social injustice for the North to have 19 states against the South's 17 and that is if some Northern States don't collapse into others. Then with a leaner central purse courtesy of resource control, the federal government will be forced to stop contemplating crazy and wasteful policies like amnesty package for militans, bandits and terrorists; sponsoring of religious pilgrimages; tradermoni largesse; subsidy payments for importation of refined petroleum products and edibles like rice, chicken, and others; there will no longer enough funds to sustain the jumbo allowance of senators and representatives thus politics will become unattractive to political investors and therefore become a venture for accomplished veterans in different fields who will bring their professional experiences to bear on legislative business. Each state government will have no option than to look inwards into untapped resources in their respective states. Political investors will therefore be forced to invest in the real sector to the effect of stimulating productivity towards diversification thus reversing our net importer situation which is responsible for the ever falling value of the Naira to all other world currencies. All this will birth a new socio-economic order where every pay is earned as against the current one which encourages entitlement mentality, rent seeking, laziness, political thuggery, propensity towards TV shows like BB Naija, etc.
Positions like yours over this resource control question usually come from people who don't see the bigger picture.

Dude, it was you who “isolated” resource control….
And thus I highlighted and addressed it SPECIFICALLY.

Not everyone has time for a dissertation on Nairaland…
Suffice it to note that GOOD GOVERNANCE does not require restructuring first.

Restructuring is NOT a silver bullet…
And if these folks are incapable of good governance now, it won’t change much!
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Asour:
Well this isn't true for most brilliant scholars — That a scholar would be able to answer exams excellently & be in exam mode ALL the time /at short notice—They may score well (above average) but not as good, perhaps, as they would with preparation.

Someone able to answer any exam questions(I am guessing not the same already answered before), anyday, anytime in his field would be a rare type of genius.
First class students aren't always geniuses.
In most Nigerian institutions, any combination of equal parts — Averagely weighted—As and Bs in all your modules would give you a First class. This can be achieved by a few non-geniuses.

However, I am not against giving the student here a retest/re-examination. No. I am just saying almost none of us is a walking, exam-ready student prepared for any/all college courses. That's why we prepare.

Your dissertation is totally unnecessary….
One does not have to be a “genius” to competently pass a 45-minute APTITUDE test in her field of expertise.
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Karlovych:
Blacks are more than whites regarding welfare packages in the US, as for the Black American/African beef, a lot of it is mutual as most of them hate Africans and Africa too.

Another one buying the racist stereotypes….
Dude, I only deal with FACTUAL reality, not beer parlor gossip.

https://nces.ed.gov/pubs2012/2012026/tables/table_32.asp
https://www.clasp.org/press-room/news-clips/americans-are-mistaken-about-who-gets-welfare
https://www.businessinsider.com/welfare-policy-created-white-wealth-largely-leaving-black-americans-behind-2020-8
https://www.nap.edu/read/9719/chapter/8#154
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Tourist123:
After many years of hearing about Times Square, I visited the place this night to at least get a sneak peek of how it looks. It’s Awesome

My old neighborhood…
Lived on 44th St. between 6th Ave and Broadway for 10 years.

PS: Please extend my greetings to those giant rats rooting around the restaurants’ garbage.
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Ammishaddai:
Oga, stop being foolish and see the bigger picture here : a student who graduated with a first class will surely be able to defend it any day, anytime. So save your noise making for something more worthwhile

Exactly! When some of them reportedly started moaning about “short notice” you know the blowing wind has exposed nyashes!
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Sixsigmahub:
https:///first-class-students-of-ignatius-ajuru-university-of-education-to-write-test-to-prove-degree-authenticity/

EXCELLENT!

As a part employer of labor, I’ve grown increasingly suspicious of Nigerian certificates…
If they genuinely merited their first-class degrees, why would any of them worry about a 45-min aptitude test?!
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Deadlytruth:
Is the duty of restructuring really that of the president or the national assembly? While a Tinubu presidency might be more positively disposed to restructuring given his stance as Lagos governor as regards creation of LCDAs and his being the only non-Southsouth governor that used to attend the Southsouth governors meetings to agitate for resource control, I however doubt any hope of a restructured Nigeria becoming a reality in his reign as long as Northerners remain the majority in the national assembly. Even the legislators from Benue State will likely vote against a restructuring bill. Forget about all these anti-core North posturing by Ortom and some other Middle Beltern politicians. Their water always finds its level back to the same core-North whenever push comes to shove.

So-called “resource control” is NOT substantive restructuring…
Unless you merely mean restructuring the LOOTING from Abuja to state capitals.
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Beancounter94:
Because we insist on getting basic things like power and so on on a very low income which comes from

1.Resources whose prices we don't control, and whose prices are never at the level we want it to be

2.Taxes from only 30% of the taxable population and a very low tax to gdp ratio

3.Low prices for power and petrol...which are meant to help the poor...but which long term mean that both sectors are not profitable to pay for improvements and new facilities to improve power and petrol production at home.

And we don't get good leaders because most of you on this site support one bad leader against another. Some of you are still defending APC while some of you are defending PDP...despite the mess both have made since 1999.

30% is a very optimistic guesstimate…
Nigerians are getting exactly what they pay for (or more accurately, don’t pay for)!
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JESHAL:
Good outcomes because of hardwork as new immigrants in a foreign land, if they were lazy and undetermined they would be no where, in fact many are, indebted with credit card consumerism debt, are not employed, depending on welfare, but some prosper

So you think that (for example) all those Nigerian doctors who put in years of hard work in Nigerian medical schools were merely “lazy and undetermined” to have been unemployed or less successful in Nigeria?!
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JESHAL:
No equalty of opportunities, mean people are free to choose different paths, and also when people are generally in a particular field some will succeed other will fail, some will also be average

Again, you miss the point…

The lesser achievement you cited is primarily the (LAGGING) result of the inequality of opportunities…
The more opportunities have been equalized, the more the achievement of the previously-excluded class.

No different from when blacks were excluded from Major League Baseball (and segregated from major colleges and their sports)…
It was not an indication of lesser ability, and as the opportunities were equalized, so have the achievements of blacks in those fields.
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