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JESHAL:
And equality of opportunities solve these problem, as long as human nature exist ,equality of outcomes is impossible, the Communist tried it and failed miserable bringing suffering and chaos

Nobody is campaigning for equality of (or identical) OUTCOMES…
Merely stating the REALITY that lagging opportunities correlate with lagging achievement.
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JESHAL:
No , one is delusional and the other is realistic, only communism achieved equality of outcome via mass starvation , poverty and death, Egalitarianistic-Equalist are very dangerous with their ideology because it is similar to Communistic utopian dreams for the culture , post-mordernism via dysfunctional ideologies like gender is a social construct are very culturally destabilizing as they don't adhere to reality

The relationship between opportunity and outcomes could not be better illustrated by so many NIGERIANS who suffered in Nigeria, but having emigrated to the US, UK or Canada, with better and more OPPORTUNITIES, have achieved so much more than in Nigeria!
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JESHAL:
I never tagged you as that, I only stated objectively that your manner of reason is as a result of victimhood mentality not you personally, but your thoughts process, but you called me an Uncle Tom

And I stated just as objectively that your manner of reasoning is as a result of what is referred to as Uncle Tom mentality…
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JESHAL:
No , one is delusional and the other is realistic, only communism achieved equality of outcome via mass starvation , poverty and death, Egalitarianistic-Equalist are very dangerous with their ideology because it is similar to Communistic utopian dreams for the culture , post-mordernism via dysfunctional ideologies like gender is a social construct are very culturally destabilizing as they don't adhere to reality

Equality and identical are not synonymous….
The more opportunities women have gotten, the more equal (not identical) outcomes they’ve achieved.

It’s the same thing even for white dudes…
Those who were initially excluded from the mainstream (Irish, Italians, Poles, etc.) lagged in achievement.
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JESHAL:
You see what I'm saying, tagging me uncle Tom while presenting your studies speaks volumes about you, why the need for the ad hominem attack, can't you just present your point?

Unlike you tagging me with “victimhood mentality”? SMH
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JESHAL:
I believe in equality of opportunities and not equality of outcomes, women have rights and privileges just like men, voting, educational, and working rights these 21st century, they must earn their way to the top without affirmative actions and quota policies which to me are sexist and biased favoring women, they must work hard via meritocracy and competence, they must respect the heirachy

Women are dominating colleges there is no excuse

As if both are not related?
The more opportunities women have gotten, the better outcomes they’ve achieved.

It’s the same thing with white dudes…
Those who were initially excluded from the mainstream (Irish, Italians, Poles, etc.) lagged in achievements.
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JESHAL:
What manner of victimhood mentality is these, for Bleep sake you are man, when you are making an argument you must have cogent points backed by empirical evidence via statistics and data, or at least your argument must be sound and reasonable, you don't need to use ad hominem attacks, gaslighting, sophistry , pseudo-rationalizations to proof your point while not refuting my arguments

Single motherhood households in Black communities was incentived by welfarism, it prevailent in all races but worse in the black community, there is sound evidence that there is correlation between fatherlessness and criminals, drug abusers, prisoners, illiteracy, gun shooting, degenerates

https://nces.ed.gov/pubs2012/2012026/tables/table_32.asp
https://www.clasp.org/press-room/news-clips/americans-are-mistaken-about-who-gets-welfare
https://www.businessinsider.com/welfare-policy-created-white-wealth-largely-leaving-black-americans-behind-2020-8
https://www.nap.edu/read/9719/chapter/8#154

I state FACTS dude…
I will leave the “mentality” ascription to you (perhaps yours is an Uncle Tom’s mentality ).
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JESHAL:
What a fallacious arguments
These 21st century virtually all the New technologies like Amazon, social media, were created by men, women will all their education and liberation have created nothing as there is no excuse of Patriachy holding them back these mordern time, infact for every female invention I Google out these 21st century I will give you 20 male inventions offhand

Do you actually believe that women always enjoyed the same access as men, even in the US?
Women (which are a political minority) are still playing catch up - just like ethnic minorities, shut out of the system for centuries.
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JESHAL:
Just remembered one very important point, during segregation and racism, the black community family units was intact, divorce was rare and children out of wedlock were a taboo, but when they introduced welfarism packages for single mothers, the black women chose govt handouts over their husbands, very pathetic, there is a negative stereotype on black Women, they are known to be ratchet and combative, all to proof that they are equal or better than men, but they are poor imitations of the Masculine, taking all the negative traits

Feminism via Egalitarianistic-Equalism ideology is part of your subconscious bias via indoctrination from academia and mainstream media, very hard to think outside it's dogma

Fox News, the KKK and all the white supremacists must be proud of you…
Meanwhile, there are MORE white women and white families on welfare than black females.

Btw, during “segregation” (racism still exists, so don’t get your latter reference), black people were publicly lynched, denied to right to use public facilities or accommodations, and the right to vote, and confined to inferior segregated public schools (in that respect, not much has changed). Segregation was NOT the nirvana that you seem to have been falsely fed, and when black businesses thrived (as in Tulsa’s so-called Black Wall Street), there were ruthlessly put down (physically or commercially). Meanwhile, the black family unit has largely been destroyed by the warehousing of black males in the prison industrial complex, many for crimes that are substantively treated as little more than mischief when those involved are not people of color (or the anomaly of punishing crack possession and distribution much heavier than cocaine possession and distribution - even though the former is a diluted/cheaper derivative of the latter).

Anyway, the irony in many of these ill-informed (frankly bordering on ignorant) discourse of African-Americans by many Africans is that Africans in the US (whether immigrant or the most recent generations born there) are BENEFITING from literally the Blood Sweat and Tears of African-Americans, suffered not only through the often brutally-suppressed civil rights movements but up to the most recent comprehensive immigration reform (I believe of 1986, during the administration of Ronald Reagan, before many of us on Nairaland were even born), when African-Americans vigorously campaigned for a change in the immigration policy based solely on blood relationships to one that promotes diversity - leading to the Diversity Visa Lottery under which so many Nigerians/Africans were able to emigrate to the US, and have subsequently brought along their relatives as well as spurn their own American progeny.
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Activist001:
For context, many Nigerian women attacked her brother (the Nigerian shotput thrower) on Facebook for marrying a white woman aka "whitey" and not coming home to take a Nigerian woman as his bride.

Agu Nwaanyi Nokwa Ofuma lost her cool when she spotted a comment on a group on Facebook. Responding, She wrote;

”Nigerians are so dirty lol. I just saw a comment about my brother’s ”white wife”. So he should now, after being with this person who has supported him before he ever won his first medal, leave her and find a nasty, gaptoothed, 250% density wig wearing, sloppy never been pregnant but has a postpartum belly, 100-0, never contributing financially, emotionally, or otherwise, user ass Nigerian woman to celebrate his wins with because of what exactly? God punish you after entitlemet finishes punishing you”

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Birds of the SAME feather…
Because she has just displayed as much IGNORANCE as the eediots who made the “whitey” comment.

Nobody should care where anyone or any race finds real love…
But this ASTONISHINGLY DUMB (stereotype) comment depicts both a low self-esteem and ignorance.

Anyway, hope she is holding up a mirror, because same Nigerian blood flows through her veins. SMH
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Odewaleadesoye:
https://punchng.com/bbnaija-promoting-immorality-channel-blocked-from-my-decoder-says-pastor/

TITHE BUSINESSMAN, that’s what you should do if offends you - block it or simply don’t watch…
Not sure why many Nigerians act as if to watch BBN is by force (I personally don’t watch it, but have nothing against it).

Nigerians make such a hypocritical PUBLIC show of religion and morality…
Yet, despite a church/mosque on every other street, Nigeria is one of the most CRIMINAL AND CORRUPT places on earth!
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Insidenaijasblo:
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2021/08/legal-battle-3-u-s-based-law-firms-consulted-to-defend-abba-kyari/

Probably charge-and-bail lawyers (aka Ambulance Chasers)…
No reputable US firm will defend a Nigerian PEP (Politically Exposed Person)!
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jumpandpas:
Why won't they set it ablaze?

Because the trucks had NOTHING to do with the reported dispute…
But many Nigerians are PRIMITIVE XENOPHOBES who can only view the world through primordial ethnic lenses. SMH
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FutureIsFemale:
https://punchng.com/ex-president-yaraduas-son-remanded-in-yola-prison-for-allegedly-crushing-four-to-death/

NaijaGoBetter20:
Ok
15m compensation as a damage to what? Come to central area here and watch them doing naija version of F1 racing.
They will hit you and leave their car for their parent to claim it.
Police will never put former president son in prison it's audio

It’s a CRIMINAL case, so don’t understand why the victims’ relatives would be asking for N15m “compensation”…
If they want compensation for wrongful death or injuries (for the two injured), they should file a CIVIL suit outside of the criminal case.
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Emmanuel909090:
Failed country, see interview, illiterates and dumb untrained people interrogating a sane man.
Must it be posted online?
Did the US post Hushpuppys interogation, abi we feel they didn't record?
We need a better system.

Was it the police that posted it?
How is it different from the George Floyd video in the US posted by bystanders?

Meanwhile, if it was not posted online, would people know things like this happen?
I still do not get this culture of so many Nigerians for secrecy and lack of transparency.

PS: Btw, Hushpuppi’s police questioning is a PUBLIC document in the US…
Those questionings are routinely on TV shows, YouTube channels and websites in the US!
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PARADIZEPRIEST:
A WHOLE MEDICAL DOCTOR BASED IN USA BEIN TREATED LIKE ANIMAL IN NIGERIA?DO YU PPL KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO BE A DOCTOR IN USA THE CASH MILLIONS AND THE BRAIN NEEDED? NAIJA PPL ARE REALLY ANIMALS,INSTEAD OF PROBING ORDEAL THEY PUT THE GUY THRU,THEY ARE BUSY WITH MUNDANE TALK.

Some Nigerians and inferiority complex…
Any dude shows up and tells you he’s a medical doctor, and you believe him.

A dude who claimed to have lived in the US since he was 9…
But sounds like he has just left his stall at Alaba Market has little credibility!
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ib4real95:
Bro! you just spilled out my thoughts. These people are a big fucking disgrace. I'm ashamed to be a Nigerian

Don’t let the door hit you on the way out…
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KosiGee:
Nigeria police are thugs and unprofessional. Why ask mr Odigie to hold the gun in his hands? He has already admitted ownership of the weapon. What’s there to prove?

I want to feel sorry for the man but it could’ve gone horribly wrong for the mattress seller and Odigie.
Mattress was sold to Odigie which he paid for but on receipt of the good, he wasn’t happy with the quality. He asked for a refund which the mattress seller refused. This is the problem.

Odigie was enraged and as a Bini boy who probably was a ‘strong man’ way back in the Uni, he got his toy out and went to prove to the mattress seller that he wasn’t someone to be messed with….

Then it went wrong, police intervened thinking that Odigie was one of the ‘robbers who has been terrorising the neighbourhood’ for ages…they must think they caught a cult boy….things changed when they realised that Odigie actually came from the States and he is a medical doctor.

Lucky man, he would’ve been shot ‘mistakenly’…now he would be taken to the station and he would donate a token to the boys, everybody will be happy and he will happily go back to his wife and new born baby..

The loser here is the mattress seller…the idiot should’ve refunded the money…now he will pay more to the police…I can bet my a grand that the mattress seller is ‘my broda’. He should refund the money and make peace….locking his shop and crossing the Niger bridge won’t solve anything..:Odigie can still send some boys after him when he is safe in the US.

Lyddia:
Dude should have just stayed in his USA

He’s lucky he was not caught by police in the US…
A black dude with a gun? He would have been lit up like a Christmas tree.
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chrisvic007:
There is freedom of expression but you must be prepared for the consequence.

NONSENSE! Insulting the President is NOT a crime…
Nigerians like you DESERVE the DUMB DICTATORSHIP driving Nigeria back to the Stone Age!
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DOTian:
http://saharareporters.com/2021/08/03/police-parade-young-man-arrested-while-buying-food-sick-mum-eastern-security-network

Everyone is now denying ESN/IPOB…
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Felabrity:
Only our females are winning us medals

Hmm

Where that 100m guy?

THE FUTURE IS FEMALE!
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Prince001:
Make he just turn Lagos to China cos na only Chinese product wey no dey last the guy dey buy. I guess na way to steal money by any means!

Some unenlightened Nigerians still have a mid-20th century view of Chinese products…
Dude, there’s a reason that China is universally described as the Workshop of the World!
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Lanrelagboi:
https://www.facebook.com/735776012/posts/10159231832596013/

https://oyotoday.com/sanwo-olu-to-unveil-102-locally-assembled-lawma-trucks/

EKO O NI BAJE!
Lagos leads, others follow.
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Blitz888:
May this girls misery be visited on you in more severe measure with more far reaching consequence so we will see if you'll still have the cheap data and the cognitive coherence to type the gibberish you just typed.

Is this the first time you're hearing that the unprofessional Nigeria Police force framed up innocent people for an offence they no nothing about?

Was it not on this platform recently that the news of a young man who visited his in-laws in Owerri on condolence was Kidnapped by the Nigerian Police and paraded as an ESN member?if not for the intervention of his lawyers and the media they wouldn't have released him.

That you sensationalize every news that has to do with ESN/IPOB doesn't mean it's correct. Use your head and stop the herd-mentality or better still deploy a bit of tact and empathy before vituperating thrash!

Exactly! There are no criminals in Nigeria, just “innocent” folks framed-up…
All these robberies, kidnapping, ritual killings, UGM, etc., are just figments of the imagination.

Dude, just because some suspects may be wrongly accused, doesn’t mean that all suspects are…
These folks are suspects and will have their day in court to exonerate themselves. It’s not like they’ve been necklaced!
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Calitoscassius:
Okay, me afraid of police? Yes, i am afraid of nigerian police because the are not police they are murderers..

I have been in numerous prisons in Europe and met numerous different kinda European police but was never afraid of them.

Keep praying that is all what you people are good at while police is killing nigerian youths. As long as you are in that zoo you are not safe. Nigerian police will pick you up one day soon and tag you an IPOB criminal. I promise you that.

As i ve said, i will come on here to type the same thing you typed for you.

Good luck!

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Tonimax:
As shared by a Facebook user Chimaka Cynthia Duruigbo, her father a bike man operating in the orlu axis is among the alleged ESN members paraded by the men of the Nigeria Police force.

The old man went missing for sometime now after going out in search of a daily bread not knowing he was picked up by the police and his motorcycle burnt to ashes.
Is this fair my good people

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=666595277582179&id=100026951391770

Everyone is denying ESN/IPOB these days…

That your dad told you he was going to the market does not make it true…
When he was going to visit his side-piece, did you think he told your mother so?!
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omoluka:
Either restructuring (True federalism) or division, no third option. The present system where a region or state produce nothing and get federal allocation generated from other states and region will NEVER engender development of this damn country and as a matter of fact, it is not sustainable .
This present system promote mediocrity, laziness and lack of creativity.

What does that have to do with ethnicity?
There are states in EVERY region that primarily survive on federal allocation.

We can discuss real (not fake) restructuring, without resort to ethnic demagoguery…
And by restructuring, I do not mean simply shifting the LOOTING from Abuja to regional capitals.

What Nigerians are really fighting over is RENT-SEEKING…
That’s why the “restructuring” discourse in Nigeria is largely dominated by allocation.

Unless we shift our emphasis from sharing to PRODUCTION, we are merely pissing against the wind…
Accordingly, I agree that a crucial restructure should be “resource control” - but from politicians to actual PRODUCERS!

PS: Meanwhile, there’s NOTHING like “true” federalism…
Federalism differs according to circumstances, and thus US federalism is DIFFERENT from German or Swiss federalism.
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omoluka:
Today?

This afternoon…
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EndNigeriaNnow:
I have been saying it that when it starts it will come like a shock to everyone. these Fulani terrorist have been recruited into Nigeria military and paramilitary sectors. They will unlish terror to Biafrans and Oduduwans when the time comes. These terrorist recruited by Fulani government have been stationed in strategic locations in the country so that it will be difficult for anyone to escape or fight back. The earlier Nigerian youths request for referendum to end Nigeria, the better for all of you. No one should be talking of voting now, no more election in Nigeria. The only voting now should be a referendum vote. Don't allow the greedy corrupt politicians to dictate for you how to do your things, Follow Igboho and MNK and NINAS. Fight for your generation, Oduduwa and Biafra will be among the best 3 African countries. We have all we need to excel as a country, let's do away with these terrorist up north. The earlier the better

There are no military or paramilitary force in Nigeria today without recruits and officers from all 36 states…
Crude xenophobia and primitive ethnic demagoguery will not resolve the underlying fundamental issues of Nigeria.

It is a shocking primordial notion that even in the 21st century, certain Nigerians apparently are only capable of co-existing with only people of same ethnicity. Yet, even within SAME ethnic groups, we witness all manner of primitive intra-ethnic dichotomy and fratricidal clashes - Egba-Ijebu, Ife-Modakeke, Ogoni-Andoni, Umuleri-Aguleri, Igbo-Anioma, Igbo-Ikwerre, etc., etc. How many countries shall we ultimately divide Nigeria into? Over 200 new nations for each ethnic/linguistic group?

Nigeria’s problem is NOT ethnicity, but HORRIBLE GOVERNANCE…
Unfortunately, such HORRIBLE governance transcends across ALL ethnicities in Nigeria.
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insidelife22:
Naija na jungle,no human right,no rule of law,the bigger animals preying on the lesser ones,Aboki government,by Aboki and for the abokis.

Some Nigerians just love to deceive themselves with xenophobic otherisms…
Look at the battle happening in Lagos this Sunday afternoon, with NO “aboki” in sight!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRje_Sr-pxE

Wawelexy:
They should have allowed that yeye girl to attend the funeral for her to see the sadness she brought upon the man's family...

Why stop there?
Bring Nnamdi Kanu to the funeral of policemen murdered by ESN.
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Ayomide811:
https://www.thecable.ng/just-in-ipob-vows-to-lock-down-south-east-if-nnamdi-kanu-is-not-released-by-august-8/amp?fbclid=IwAR3Z2tTMEoU9CwLgIdkmf84d6Um01iO9wEbgX5onq2ciViqdyYq4W6eGM4Y

IPOB Comedians…
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