hate Chelski - no way, they just came to the party recently, A bit like Charton FC with money. There is no reason to hate them. Pity maybe,

Puree - you are having a laugh aren't you?

I should have watched the Juventus match, rather than waste my evening watching a very poor pub team - Chelski.

Jose Mourinho - what a sad little man, When will he ever admit that he lost to the better side, Did anyone listen to him on TV after the game.

A man with no class,

Huth up front??

Where is Kola? Bagoma, where is kola??

Chelski - What a load of rubbish,

Marco Van Basten - Euro 88 (I think, against Russia)
Godwin Odiye - World Cup qualifier against Tunisia
Nwankwo Kanu's Hat trick against Chelski
Dennis Bergkamp double against Leicester City
Zola's goal - FA cup against Norwich
Falcoa's goal against Italy 1982 World Cup

@ All my Chelski Mates,

May the better side win (Barca of course)

If Chelski go thru somehow, I will not visit the forum tonight, but if they dont. You can better your bottom Naira that I will. And I will be giving it large, So Brother Kola (Be afraid, be very Afriad)

@seun,

This is how you started off,

In addition, pretty yoruba girls are usually also rich and they do not "degrade" themselves by entering beauty pageants

It wouldn’t have been acceptable to let you get away with such a ridiculous statement.

But to your credit, you have made an attempt to clarify your position.

@chinani - yep,

a typical Yoruba mother will develop heart attack and die immediately she sees her daughter strutting in a bikini on TV!

What will kill her, biko?

Seeing a TV for the first time, or seeing the daughter in a bikini on TV.

As much as you are trying to make your folks look and sound morally well positioned, you are on the other hand doing them a huge disfavour, making them look antiquated and laughable.

Folks, Please stop digging.

One can only guess that most Igbo parents score very low on ethics and by implication don’t mind turning their kids into sex objects - not like their decent opposite numbers elsewhere.

@kola, My Chelski Friend

Thanks for your response,

I guess Awo means different things to different people. To some he will always be a hero, to others maybe not so - and to the rest, somewhere in between. I respect the fact that you have properly articulated your views. It will be nice to read other opinions.

I have never heard so much rubbish, Too rich and (or) too proper to be contestants?

@kola

I didn’t expect to offer my views this early in the discussion, and I don’t want to guess why you wanted to know.

But if it will facilitate the discussion, or give you an angle then this is it.

I see Awolowo as a [b]tribal [/b]rather than a national hero, something I sometimes wish [b]Zik [/b]was.

Nearly everyone I know has an opinion concerning Chief Obafemi Awolowo. Nineteen years after his death he still remains a hero in most of Yorubaland. His contributions to the rapid development (human and material) of the old western region are still unsurpassed even today.

Key Nigerian figures (including Odumegwu Ojukwu) have continued to echo the view that Chief Obafemi Awolowo was the best president the country never had.

Awolowo, according to many Awoists, is what today’s indigenous politician is not: charismatic, visionary, a great planner and economic wizard.

On the other hand, some people simply see him as a nasty piece of work. Survivors of the Biafran War hold Awolowo - the wartime Nigerian minister of finance and deputy chairperson of the war cabinet – responsible for fanatically championing Nigeria's notorious "starvation as weapon/quick kill" strategy on Biafra, which resulted in the death of a huge percent of the total Igbo war casualty including children. They are not quick to forget the £20.00-limit financial/economic strangulation he placed on them immediately after the war, at a time when he instigated the privatisation of many Government owned concerns.

Those that see him as a villain are not limited to the Igbos. He allegedly fell out with MKO, because the latter said he wasn’t a socialist as he made everyone believe, but a clandestine property mogul. (Concord Newspapers & Dideolu Estate come to mind). His spats with Fani-Kayode, OBJ etc are well documented.

A number of political commentators still believe that Awolowo single-handedly pioneered tribalism in Nigerian Politics. It is alleged and not decisively verified that he ‘promised’ to pull the Western region out of Nigeria if the Eastern Region did so, only to ‘chicken’ out when reality dawned on him. This indictment trailed him and somewhat unjustly gave members of his tribe an unwarrantable tag of spinelessness. The assumed strife between the Yoruba & Igbo tribes can – in my view - be traced back to both accusations.

It will be nice to know what the members of this forum think. I expect strong feelings, but at the end of the day we may (and I use that worded guardedly) dispel some of the falsehood that surrounds Chief Obafemi Awolowo.

How will History remember “Olisie ego Obu so Njo.”

Probably as one of the luckiest men alive - that is until he dies for Nigeria.

@kola,

No problem, I am sure you must have enjoyed the total football we (Arsenal) dished out at Fulham yesterday. I am sure somewhere in your heart you must wish Chelski could win in style…

In contrast, Cheski showed once again why they are not good for football. The behaviour of your manager and your Idol (Drogba – a guy who will not even score in a brothel…oops he scored yesterday) still leaves a lot to be desired.

Thanks for increasing your offer. I am sure we will be quite happy to take money off a Chelski fan…, and ……

@Bagoma, Please take note.

Dont know if there are places in Nigeria where you can get LP's and TT's, but LP's are big business here especially Old school Funk and Soul,

DJ's are always on your tail,

@Ijebuman/Bagoma, and the other old school fans, Where una?

@Kola

Drogba 15 - sure you can do a lot better bro,

AFC

Kola,

Raise the stakes, A little over £100 will not get us anywhere. What sort of party do you think we are having?

Back to your point. Lets see how we get on this week,

Tuesday night in the Nou Camp may be a sad night for you, I really wish it is,

Ababoy1 - AFC 4 Life,

Passion and excitement – Premiership

Skill and technique – La Liga

Cos I live here, I will say the Premiership by a very little margin,

I don’t specifically see OBJ as a fearless man. Calling him a coward will be a bit too strong, in any case he goes around pronouncing himself as the subjugator(?) of Biafra.

Looking back in time, this was a guy who was so disinclined to take over from MM when he was killed, reports have it that he almost crapped himself when he was asked to take over. Now that could be just chitchat.

Another school of thought has it that he handed over to Shagari quickly, not because he believed in democracy, but because he was fearful ….

I believe this same fear is responsible for him wanting to die(?) for us (i.e. remain in power)

He is unsure of what lies ahead when he loses power. His imaginary bravery has always had a power base behind it….

Personally I would want him to carry on, for the sole reason of fighting corruption -No matter how imperfect or selective. Like him I don’t see true democracy as the way forward for Nigeria. Not at the present time….We simply lack the discipline.

Just 24?

There is still hope then, Unless the others are supporting the third term agenda, Just me being disparaging

Not a big fan, but one of the best programmes on TV

Like I said at an earlier time, I just got to know (see) these guys recently (They don’t make waves here PERIOD) and because of the debate here I have done a bit more research (against my better use of time). The way I form an opinion about professional people is not to position them in categories. In my profession, I am basically a solutions architect, I bridge IT and business. Anyone judging my ability here will use a global yardstick, and not limit my skill (or lack of it) on the basis that I am of Nigerian heritage, irrespective of where I am based.

That is the same way I intend to judge every other professional (footballers, doctors etc). So when I look at these guys, I see music producers. And on that level and in my opinion, these guys still have a long way to go. They may get there one day, but from what I have seen they (or at least one of them) earnestly need an attitude makeover. You can be condescending or inconsiderate about what others think of you if you really have something pleasant to offer.

And this money issue…. I bet there are a lot of us here that aren’t short of a bob or two, so why is it a concern. Or how does it affect the views of others? Having loads of Naira, does that continually equate to success.

If it does…,

Kola,

Like I said I dont care whether they are arrogant or not. But since you need a link ( A simple - http://www.google.com/search?lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=CHELSEA%20ARROGANT)

Gave me this link amongst others. I havent bothered to read it fully, so I dont know whether it meets your expectations.

http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/5322872

Its gotta be Aba,

@kola

A typical Chelski response,

My friend was at Stamford Bridge last night and he also came up with excuses, and when he wasn’t getting anywhere he decided to have a pop at Arsenal.

To set the record straight and stop these ridiculous debates about Arsenal and the pub team down the road - Chelski.


Arsenal
League Champions (13 times)
1931 1933 1934 1935 1938 1948 1953 _1971_ 1989 1991 _1998_ _2002_ 2004
(runners-up 1926 1932 1973 1999 2000 2001 2003 2005)
FA Cup (10)
1930 1936 1950 _1971_ 1979 1993 _1998_ _2002_ 2003 2005
(runners-up 1927 1932 1952 1972 1978 1980 2001)

Chelsea
League Champions ( 2 times)
1955, 2005
FA Cup (3)
1970, 1997, 2000

Arrogant, mouthy, pompous - I really dont care. I just dont think they are good for football. A few years ago, Chelsea were nothing short of a Sunday Morning side playing in front of 3000 fans. All all of a sudden they now think they are a big club because of some dodgy money from Russia. Football is all about tradition and building (not buying) success,

For me Chelski are simply the Blackburn of the South,

@bagoma - Thanks

To all those happy with tonights result, Keep the party alive, And get ready to read more and more excuses from the Chelski fans,

I'm outta here,

On that beautiful note C (Bagoma)

Its time to say Goodnight,