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Car TalkRe: Lexus Rx330 Vs Range Rover Sport by abatically(m): 8:48am On Aug 07, 2014
lomomike: effizy:
8 standard speakers, 11 optional Mark levinson speakers.
AM/FM/TAPE/CD 1/RDS/with auto Speaker Leveling (standard) Mark Levinson AM/FM/TAPE/6 CD loader/RDS/AUX/TEL/ with auto speaker leveling with dolby digital (optional)
In glass type antenna + rear rubber pole (short swivel type) Navigation, reverse camera, bluetooth handsfree telephone system with dual omni direction microphones, roof mounted rear information/entertainment system (TV/DVD/FM/AM/CD/MAP)

10way power drivers seat with two memory settings, 8way power front passenger seat.
Split folding sliding rear seats. Genuine marple/birdeye wood trim (formica), genuine premium leather or premium cloth upholstery, power tilt telescoping steering wheel, power adjustable side mirrors with heater system, dual zone auto climate control HVAC system, rear tv/dvd/ game console auxiliary signal port, with 110v power outlet, 12v cigarette lighter, 110v front power outlet, electrolumiscent illuminated instrument cluster gauge with lucid display, shootout style headlamp washer system, auto rain sensing wipers, Automatic Swivel Lamps (adaptive 'steerable' lamps with auto leveling system for HID headlamps only), TPMS system, outside thermometer, trip computer, immobilizer, alarm, cruize control/ automatic rader guided cruise control (optional), trailer hitch (optional) 'airs' automatic leveling air suspension (optional) spring rate dampers suspension (standard), auto delay 'see me home' headlamps, auto rear door open/close, remote window open system. One touch all power window system, one touch sunroof slide/tilt system, 9 airbags, ABS 4 channels with EBD, VSC, 3 point seat belt pretentioner system, reinforced front rear and side safety crumple zones. Etc the list is stilll plenty abeg make I rest.
I know u are a Lexus fan, me too. The rx330 is a very nice affordable mid class luxury cuv that has been underrated and I often advice friends who are not too rich to go for a Lexus rather than range rover sport.

But truth be told, the range rover sport commands more respect. Its more beautiful than the rx330 on the exterior. Take a further step inside and it dusts the $hit out of the Lexus, but that is expected for a car that costs more than 2 times the price of the Lexus. Performance wise, off road capabilities, luxury, comfort the RR sports is way ahead of the rx330.

So for someone who is very rich and don't care for cost of maintenance, then buy RR sports. For a middle class-above middle class, the rx330 is ideal. Bro u can't expect a Mikel obi to be driving an rx330.
Car TalkRe: Fastest Speed You Have Ever Driven: Car, Place, Time? by abatically(m): 8:36am On Aug 07, 2014
Chibzee: Easyyyyy were all just talking nwayolly,.....but u see man, i dont know about the weight of the car, but i can tell you that the car (hilux) in general is a pretty fast truck.
Now, i dont know how or on what basis you guys or you in this case qualify(s) a fast car because i can see you mentioning honda. Now all those Japanese cars a pretty fast but i dont see the sense in a car being fast to an extent that you feel the car slipping out of your control(flying things).
so before i open my mouth to say that a car is fast, it has got to have some stamina to go by or with. and thats what makes the benz stand out. i could go as fast as the car can go feeling all relaxed and in control, but trust me when i tell you that some things i do on my benz cant and shouldnt be tried on so many other so called fast cars.
well longly and shorty said i dusted the hilux, maybe you should try going against a sound hilux truck with a fast driver behind the wheels and see what i mean and make sure your not on a benz.
For the fact that u are beating ur chest that u outran a truck like the hilux shows a lot how crap ur so called Benz is, u should probably dash it out already. Maybe ubdont know that most hilux has a max speed of 160km/hr, that means u are already going beyond limit when u are on 150. Some newer ones have speedo up to 200km/hr but believe me it would take a very long stretch of road to get it to do 170 and rpm will be high.

If Toyota hilux is what u calk fast car, then Land cruiser Prado is a speed demon lol. My Honda accord v6 will chew that ur Benz.
Car TalkRe: Lexus Rx330 Vs Range Rover Sport by abatically(m): 7:42pm On Aug 05, 2014
cne010: Come again? This is coming from someone that called range rover a "jeep" I want to assume you don't live in Lagos.
Don't mind him. So if I'm young and make enough money then I should drive an rx330 instead of range rover sport? If u are the type that goes to gas station to buy 1,000 naira fuel, then range rover sports is not for u.
SportsRe: What Name Would You Call Van Gaal?since Moyes Was The Chosen One by abatically(m): 12:26pm On Aug 05, 2014
mikeansy: Kagawa has come in a few time for Herrera in a central midfield position and he has not done too badly. I can see him playing their comfortably in a 3-4-1-2 formation against some weak premier league opposition

for the number 10 role, dont forget that Januzaj will play there as well
Ander Herrera is a very versatile player. He looks small but he is strong and does make lots of prodessional tackles in midfled to stop opposition counter attacks something kagawa cannot do. Kagawa can't play in central midfield, I would rather play cleverly in CM than kagawa. Cleverly can run, he only needs 2 creative midfielders beside him for him to play well and that is what Herrera and Mata are for. And this is why cleverly never plays well in a 4-4-2 formation because he only has one midfielder beside him (last season it was carrick and he is not that creative IMHO). Now in a 3-5-2 he has Herrera or fletcher and then Mata who also joins in midfield to make the passes while he (cleverly) does the dirty jobs.
SportsRe: What Name Would You Call Van Gaal?since Moyes Was The Chosen One by abatically(m): 12:18pm On Aug 05, 2014
mancheeutd: that's cool...united rule... the red devils were excellent yesterday against Madrid but am still sceptical about that formation with a 3man defence.
3-5-2 is the only formation we can play that can accommodate 2 strikers and a number 10 with every player in their favorite position. Its a dynamic formation, one minute its 3-5-2 and the next minute its 5-3-2. We only need our wing backs to be very hard working and we will score lots of goals. In a 4-4-2, Mata will not play his preferred role. In a 4-3-3, we can only play one striker which is a waste since we have 4. Three strikers can't sit on the bench. I wish we could sign cuardrado, a perfect player for the wing back.

If we can get the right players (which is what lvg is trying to do), then we can win the league with 3-5-2. This is also why I think we don't need di maria and reason lvg hasn't pushed for him. Where do u folks think di maria will fit in a 3-5-2? He surely can't play wing back. I'm sure Ashley Young would do a better job at wing back than di maria. Lvg is a good coach, he knows his formation and he is looking for the right players to make it work. If we can get Vidal and hummels, we will be a title contender.
SportsRe: What Name Would You Call Van Gaal?since Moyes Was The Chosen One by abatically(m): 12:08pm On Aug 05, 2014
mancheeutd: the anointed one hope yall watch the game against Madrid yesterday kagawas 15 minute play was excellent I wish he's been played in that position(behind the strikers)
He can't dispose Mata. Kagawa is good, but we all agree that Mata is an all round better player. If lvg is going to play 3-5-2, then kagawa will always play second fiddle to Mata. No other option to play kagawa, he can't play wing back or central midfield. In a 4-4-2 formation he could will manage as left winger, but 3-5-2? No other place then in the hole where we already have Mata.
Car TalkRe: Lexus Rx330 Vs Range Rover Sport by abatically(m): 11:19am On Aug 05, 2014
expert101: I will go for a Lexus! Pocket friendly maintenance, compact, luxury, stylish and good resale value.

Range Rover will bore a hole in your pocket. You will shout when you go for maintenance with the bill they will hammer you. Nigerians like show-off too much except you will steal money to maintain the jeep. #Poor resale value
Range Rover is not meant for a medium income earner. I don't understand what u mean by show off... So if I have billions of naira in my acct and lots of investments, then I shouldn't drive a range rover sport or even a g wagon? Nobody wey no like better thing , its cut ur coat according to ur size. If my size is range rover then why not? Life is good, if u have enough money pls enjoy life, u won't take that money to the grave.
Music/RadioRe: If Dagrin No Go, Olamide No Go Come – Whats Your Take On This? by abatically(m): 7:21am On Aug 02, 2014
ggrin: Only God knows who woke up this Dirty Conversation. Ever since Olamide hits Stardom, The Argument has been making wave on a daily basis among Fans. Today, Millions of Nigeria took to Twitter over this Argument that If Dagrin No Go, Olamide No Go Come
From my own point of View, I think that's True, you guys know dharsaw,if dagrin was alive,olamide will probably be like dharsaw some guys don't even know that guy. ama die hard dagrin fans, Dagrin is Good, Olamide is good too, olamide said in his New Song “ Awon Goons Mi” that People said he won’t blow if Dagrin was Alive but Lil Kesh blow and he (Olamide) is alive. Whats your own Take on this Argument?If Dagrin No Go, Olamide No Go Come!
Indeed. So if MI had died u will also say if MI no go ice prince no go come? Ice prince is now that main man ta chocolate city even though MI is the boss.

Also if lord of ajasa had died before da grin came u would still say the same thing. Really it doesn't matter, olamide and da grin have different approach. Olamide would have still been a star regardless whether da grin died or not. I mean who knows, da grin might have faded away, after all where are lord of ajasa and 9ice today?
Music/RadioRe: In-depth Album Review: 2face Idibia - 'ascension' by abatically(m): 7:12am On Aug 02, 2014
odibenson: that's true man this album would grow on us.but try and listen to confession and kiss of life 2face is trying to diversify is style of music.variety they say is the spice of life
Gbam. Confessions is the best track for me
Music/RadioRe: In-depth Album Review: 2face Idibia - 'ascension' by abatically(m): 7:10am On Aug 02, 2014
@op, nice review. I don't know about u but CONFESSIONS is my best track of the album. I love the beats, rhythm and even lyrics. And rocksteady kicked ass in that track... Not energetic but not lazy either, he just blended with the beat. The 2 tracks that I have okayed more than 40 times are confessions and jeje.
SportsRe: Kelechi Iheanacho Only Scorer In Man City Penalty Loss Against Liverpool by abatically(m): 3:18pm On Jul 31, 2014
Austeenx: `[color=orange]Mehn, thank God we have someone that can chase SlowBi out of the national team. [/color]
They play different wings. Iheanacho is a no 10, Mikel is a central midfielder. So technically both will play together unless we find a replacement for Mikel, its definitely not iheanacho.
SportsRe: Iheanacho May Force Edin Dzeko Out Of Man City by abatically(m): 1:33pm On Jul 31, 2014
U people are already over hyping this boy. Iheanacho displace dzeko? From where to where? Well the source is a Nigerian website so what do expect. I think u guys should let this young boy develop before the hype. The same thing we all said about Mikel when he won youth championship but where is Mikel today?

Also dzeko is a striker, iheanacho is an attacking midfielder, how dem take resemble? Silva and nasri are still first choice attacking midfielder for city, iheanacho's time will come, but not this season.
PoliticsRe: 10-year-old Female Suicide Bomber.. Made In Nigeria Suicide Bomber by abatically(m): 10:22am On Jul 31, 2014
suwailad: i dont get it, the girls at 18 and 10 were driving a HONDA CRV in Katsina? You can only find that in places like Port Harcourt. you mean almajiri girls riding honda crv, wonders
u probably missed the part where they stated they were in the company of a male suspect
SportsRe: Kelechi Iheanacho Only Scorer In Man City Penalty Loss Against Liverpool by abatically(m): 6:17am On Jul 31, 2014
padeolu: 3 goals in 3 pre-season matches. I hope he gets some playing time as the season starts
2 goals, shootouts don't count.
Car TalkRe: Lexus Rx330 Vs Range Rover Sport by abatically(m): 11:20am On Jul 30, 2014
This is comparing apples and oranges. 2 different cars targeted at different customers. You didnt state the year, but lets say we are comparing 2005 models. The range rover sports is by far the better car assuming money is not a problem, I mean who no like better thing. The range commands respect and prestige, more luxurious, more powerful and a very capable off roader. There's no way to compare the 2 cars.

The rx330 is no slouch either. It is targeted at different customers. It is cheaper, more reliable, luxurious for its class and a lot cheaper to maintain. It also has an awd model which can get u out of some bad terrains, but there are terrains the range Rover sports would go and the Lexus would get stuck, again the rx330 was never meant to be a serious off roader.

But then the question is this, does the op needs all the power the range rover sports pack? That thing has a 4.4L v8 engine while the rx330 has a 3.3L v6. I wouldn't advice someone who is not a frequent long distance traveler or someone who never does off road driving to get a range rover sports because the features would be a waste. The mistake most young boys make is they don't know what the range is meant for. I know a lot of guys that bought it and after 2 years they packed it because of high maintenance. It is not a car for the middle class, the maintenance is very expensive. Mpg is very low, but shouldn't be a problem for whoever can afford it.

So op, if u are well loaded, get the range rover sports, u won't regret it. But if u are looking for a small luxury SUV that can get u to ur destinations comfortably without putting a hole in ur pocket, get the rx330 or better still the rx350 which is a lot better than the 330. The rx350 is the best rated and highest selling mid size luxury SUV in north America. If u do a lot of offloading, get the range rover sports.
Car TalkRe: Hamza Elrufai Had Accident During Car Racing Competition? by abatically(m): 1:31am On Jul 30, 2014
Koolmexxi: And are automobiles not used in car races or is it only horse race u know of? It's quite an unfortunate incident but trust me dat can't b far from d truth considering it was a sportscar(fast car) and d tym of d accident.
It is better not to say anything when u are not absolutely sure of the cause of the accident. It would have been a different thing if u are an eye witness; but then u are not so why spread false rumour?
SportsManchester United 0-0 Inter Milan Watch Live by abatically(op): 12:53am On Jul 30, 2014
PoliticsRe: Pictures From Hamza El-rufai's Car Crash by abatically(m): 12:00am On Jul 30, 2014
nora544: The car was to fast for him, that is the problem when rich fathers buy big cars for their sons!!!!!!!!!!!!

He must be very fast that a car look like this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let me guess, if u are very rich u will make ur son drive keke napep? SMH. Yes it is an avoidable accident but non of u guys were there to know the exact course of the accident. RIP to the dead
Car TalkRe: Why Do German And American Cars Have Low Resale Values? by abatically(m): 7:40pm On Jul 28, 2014
chuna1985: I'm really laughing ma ass out on this topic written by an automobile amateur.

Just listen, Nothing from Japan can compete with anything in Germany. I read people pointing out that spare parts of European cars and It's maintenance cost is high, I wonder How replacing the fuel pump of a Volkswagen Mk4 will be expensive when the owner will use it for 20 years without ever changing it.
I think u are the one that needs to get ur facts right. Who told u the fuel pump of any car is indispensable? European cars are more expensive when they leave the factory, but it is a known fact that their price drop considerably once their mileage reach the 100,000 mark while their Japanese counterparts still maintain their value. How else would u explain a 2003 Toyota Camry at 100,000 miles costing the same or more than a 2003 Mercedes Benz C240 with similar mileage when we all know at brand new the Benz costs more.

chuna1985: Do u guys know y it seems like Japanese spare parts are cheap? It's because It's always spoiling and d owner is always fixing it. People normally think spare parts of German cars are expensive, but d fact is dat d parts rarely get damaged So How d hell will anyone know d price. We have a 13 year old Mercedes Benz tokunbo car here and It's still solid, never worked on d engine, never changed the fuel pump, never changed d kick starter, never changed d timing belt, just basic maintenance and with 1 or maximum 2 repairs a year. in fact the car did not see a mechanic for d first 4 years it was used.
This is not true. European cars are better when brand new and under warranty. Once the warranty period has elapsed their value fall down considerably. You have a 13 year old Benz 230? My grandfather has a 1986 Toyota Camry that still runs on its original engine and transmission. A 1999 Toyota Camry is 15 years old and still selling stronger than a 15 year old Mercedez Benz C or E class. If Toyota and other Japanese cars are so bad like u claim, how come the camry, accord, civic, corolla, Lexus RX all have an almost perfect score on consumer report against their European counterparts?

chuna1985: please It's a fools argument to compare a Japanese car and any with any European car, Japan make cheap cars, dats why It's everywhere in Nigeria.
Japan make cheap cars? You got to be kidding me. The problem people have is comparing cars of different class. I've seen someone compare a mercedes Benz S class with a Toyota Corolla... how is that even close? Japanese make cars for every class. Someone even compared a mercedes Benz ML350 to a Rav 4. Let's put it this way, a 2014 Lexus GS350 costs almost the same as a Mercedes Benz E350.. fair comparison. Now how is that cheap? But u do know the Lexus will be more expensive after 15 years of use.

We all know Europeans have better engineering (amidst unproven technology), nobody is disputing that, but OP's points are very valid, Japanese cars hold more value after long mileage.
Car TalkRe: Camry Big Daddy Or Peuguot 406 by abatically(m):
I would say go for the Camry. The so called purists here will write a very long essay just to convince u to buy the Peugeot due to emotional attachment. The 2003 Camry aka big for nothing might look bland inside, but that car has a very very good consumer review of 4.5 stars out of 5 and also on on Kelly Blue Book, something the 406 can only dream of. It is more reliable than the 406 and the v6 variant it very potent. It also commands respect especially the XLE models. Maintenance is cheaper and u have a far better second hand value.
Car TalkRe: Fastest Speed You Have Ever Driven: Car, Place, Time? by abatically(m): 8:46am On Jul 27, 2014
Chibzee: I have read all your posts and what i humbly have to say is that if you haven't sped with a benz or bmw still to confirm audi, then you are still on a long long thing.
Might sound strange to y'all but from okigwe to enugu, i extremely dusted a 2010 or 2012(not very sure) toyota hilux with a 1990 mercedes benz w124 230e. didnt know the dude though but we both felt the challenge between us and decided to hit it, though he got off much faster than i, but on the long run, i just breezed by and he just could not understand how and he couldnt keep up.....THE POWER OF BENZ!!!!!
Story story. Does a Toyota Hilux look like a performance car to u? You are just risking ur life in ur jalopy trying to outrun someone who is cruising in his safer newer car.
SportsRe: Manchester United 3 : 2 AS Roma by abatically(m): 12:18am On Jul 27, 2014
WoodcrestMayor: Which data plan una dey use watch match?Abeg make una share info so I go fit dey watch online anytime wey dstv mata no pure
Guy no be small matter oh. U can't watch this with mobile data or else u will be on soup. I use Spectranet LTE wireless. 8,000 per month for 25GB and its fast like a Ferrari.
SportsRe: Manchester United 3 : 2 AS Roma by abatically(m): 10:20pm On Jul 26, 2014
SportsRe: Need download Link For Manutd 7 - 0 LA Galaxy by abatically(m): 6:37pm On Jul 25, 2014
TrebleChamp: Good day all, please i need a link to download the highlights of Manchester United 7 - 0 win over LA Galaxy. Thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAnCPd19UQE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9AbaFGPbN8

And then the match against Roma tomorrow will be streamed here LIVE.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk0B_avLMRE
SportsRe: The Partnership Of Herrera And Mata by abatically(m): 6:00pm On Jul 25, 2014
TrebleChamp: Good day all, please i need a link to
download the highlights of Manchester
United 7 - 0 win over LA Galaxy. Thanks
If u have enough data, why not watch the full match here?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAnCPd19UQE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9AbaFGPbN8

And then the match against Roma tomorrow will be streamed here LIVE.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk0B_avLMRE
SportsRe: Should Kelech Iheanacho Take Over The No 10 Jersey From Mikel Now? by abatically(m): 2:29pm On Jul 25, 2014
robosky02: here what somebody said after watching the MAN CITY match

Being just a friendly I really wasn't all that interested in catching this game but I managed to switch to ESPN with 20 mins left just to see if Kelechi featured. To my surprise the commentators kept talking about him and how great he had been all game. When he scored that low flying calmly taken shot towards the end, the commentator said it was a deserving goal from someone who had done so muuch during the game. And so I knew I had to watch this game from the beginning on ESPN 3.

And what a game he had. I wouldn't bore the forum with my impressions of Kelechi but suffice it to say that he is unlike any current SE player in terms of not forcing issues or over exerting himself when unnecessary. His passes where delivered like the US Postal Service (on time and accurately, no over/under hitting). He dribbled only when necessary (one of which led to a penalty after he took on 2 players effortlessly and laid a pass to his team mate who was brought down. His confidence could be seen when he grabbed the ball to take the penalty only for Kolarov (captain for the night) to pull seniority and take the penalty.

After he scored it was as if everyone including his team mates quickly realised that they had a gem in their hand and until he was substituted he was suddenly receiving passes from his team mates which normally only happens when they believe in what you can do with the ball. It was also a delight to see Kolarov wrap his arm around Kelechi's shoulder as he gesticulated and advised him.

I needed to see this guy perform with the world's best and to say I was impressed is an under statement. If City were not so sure about him before, they may have now realised that this is a star in the making and will guard him with all their might from poachers. It is worth noting that Kelechi was included in the US tour after their training camp in Scotland so this was not a random act by the coach. I'll stake my reputation to say that all things being equal, Kelechi will turn out to be one of the world's best. Good luck!!!
One good game in pre season means nothing. The same way Jesse lindgaard did well in man utd pre season last time. Same way Wilfred zaha was hyped. Wait until he consistently put up good performances.
SportsRe: Should Kelech Iheanacho Take Over The No 10 Jersey From Mikel Now? by abatically(m): 10:09pm On Jul 24, 2014
Its too early to say this. Just one pre season game doesn't make him ready. E be like say OP want them to break his legs already, simply put, he is not ready. He needs to be brought into the super eagles gradually. Not saying they shouldn't invite him, but no way he is getting the no 10 shirt just yet. Even if he eventually plays for the Super Eagles, he won't get the no 10 shirt so far Mikel is still in the team. It is never done anywhere, u don't dispose someone of his shirt unless that person leaves the team. Mikel had a bad world cup, but he had a decent AFCON.. don't forget that easily.

And when will people realize Mikel never played no 10 for the Super Eagles at the World Cup? He played Central Midfield with Onazi .. Onazi played more like box to box while Mikel was holding. Chelsea successfully converted him to a defensive midfielder and Mikel was content with it because he didn't fight.. so I blame him for his shortcomings. Iheanacho is an attacking midfielder, Mikel is a holding midfielder.. different roles.
Car TalkRe: Quiz: Which Is Safer, 1988 Peugeot 505 GLX Or 1988 Toyota Corolla FX? by abatically(m): 4:31pm On Jul 24, 2014
CityNG: The biggest laugh I've had all week is the picture of two lame Peugeots (one is the most unsafe car ever tested in the US and the other is a made in China and is a lower model to an ordinary Citroen) but it goes to show the automotive immaturity of whom I am debating against.

So stop your sniveling and your lame accusation of anonymity.
And then funny thing is eybrows will be raised whenever they spot a Peugeot 508 on the road. Not because it is a superior car to the new Honda accord.... But because it is uncommon while the new Camry and accord are everywhere. Uncommon doesn't always mean better.
SportsRe: The Partnership Of Herrera And Mata by abatically(m): 12:22pm On Jul 24, 2014
WoodcrestMayor: As much as I agree he has playmaking attributes,I dont see him playing there.Besides,he had complained in the past that he isn't happy playing from the midfield.That was part of the reason he had friction with Fergie.His best season in the red shirt came when he occupied the striking role.The problem now is that LVG would mostly likely employ a 3-man midfield.This leaves us with one space up front and you can bet itz gonna be RVP.Mata and Kagawa are better playmakers so the midfield has no space for him.Deploying a 4-3-3 formation means Rooney has to play wide or stay on the bench.LVG has to find a solution to this problem(a good one if you ask me wink )
Did it occur to u that LVG would probably play 3-5-2? That's the formation he plays with Netherlands and that is the same formation he played last night. That way Rooney and RVP will play upfront while mata plays behind them. This is also why I think Cuadrado would be a better bargain than Di Maria in a 3-5-2 formation. Di maria can't play as a wing back while Cuadrado has a better work rate and can play wing back.. just like Valencia. In a 4-3-3 formation..... Di Maria would rule and there might be no room for Rooney unless RVP is injured.
Car TalkRe: Quiz: Which Is Safer, 1988 Peugeot 505 GLX Or 1988 Toyota Corolla FX? by abatically(m): 10:31am On Jul 24, 2014
oweniwe: Your analogy doesn't hold much water. So you're saying those who bought the 505s brand new in the 80s didn't resell them? What is the difference between if someone buys a naija used car that was brought brand new by the former owner(s) and if he buys tokunbo? Aren't both the naija used and tokunbo still second hand?
Looks like u don't understand me. In Lagos where I currently live I hardly see 505's and 504's on the road.. but i still see lots of 80's corolla s and camrys used as taxis. Dude we all know Peugeots ruled in the 80's and only the rich were able to buy them. THIS IS WHY I SAID THEY ARE LIVING ON PAST GLORY. They made some impressive cars back then, but being heavy and strong doesn't mean they are safer. This is why they got kicked out of North America because they failed to meet safety standards while the likes of Toyota were safer to drive. I know there were lots of japanese small cars in the 80's but then Peugeot 505 and 504 were the more premium cars and were respected than the datsuns and co. But what happened when the Japanese started pushing Premium cars? They kicked Peugeot out really hard and people hardly buy them. I can't even see a Peugeot that can match a Lexus.

Let's put it this way, Peugeots are like Blackberry. They dominated in the past, and then relaxed while Toyota and co are like Apple and Samsung. They came out with better products and kicked Blackberry out. Blackberry are living on past glory, I see a lot of Nigerians still like them though, same thing with Peugeot fanatics.

oweniwe: My late step grand father, an Egba high chief bought a 504 station wagon brand new back in the 80s. In 1998 when he died, his family wanted to sell the car to raise money for his burial. My dad bought the 504 wagon from them and used it for about 5 years. When my dad upgraded to a toks 190 benz in 2003, he returned the 504 back to the family. . That 504 wagon is still running today.
Past glory dude... Powers have changed hands. Aston Villa won the English league title 7 times in the past, where are they today?

oweniwe: To say the corollas aren't in use again cos they're imported tokunbo is a very filmsy excuse. Even the toks 190 benz is still running. . . Old VW Jettas are still running.
I didn't say the corollas are no longer in use. Benz 190 vs corolla? You do know Benz 190 is an executive car while 80's corollas are very small compact cars even though they changed to front wheel drive in the 80's. Toyota still make better all round cars than the competition. Like it or not, Japanese competition is still the reason the Germans are now making fuel efficient cars.

oweniwe: Lets just admit the truth. . Toyota cars aren't built to last long. . If u intend to use a toyota more than 5 years, you'll have to change the engine at one point. . You can imagine what'll become of toyota if there's no replacement engines available.
My grandfather's 1986 Toyota Camry is still running with its original engine and transmission. You think Toyota's are not built to last? Then why are they the world's biggest car maker? Why is the corolla the all time top selling car in the world even though they came late into the game? Why are Toyota and Honda products top of the table in consumer's report for reliability? And yet u think they are not built to last?

oweniwe: Its same reason why nigerians are buying fairly used/refurbished phones and laptops. They can't afford new ones. The Nigerian Economy is bad. If the economy gets better, if its possible to buy a brand new executive sedan for 2m, nobody will be buying tokunbo again.
All over the world, people buy used car.. its not just in Nigeria. Moreover the number of brand new Toyota's still surpass brand new Peougeots (by a very long mile) in Nigeria. So I really do not get ur point. Lots of Toyota dealerships everywhere (Not just Nigeria) because Toyota is a trusted brand. If I want to be a dealership today, u don't expect me to go Peugeot... why would I when I know I will hardly sell 2 cars in a week while the Toyota dealership beside me is selling 8 cars a week. That is suffering and smiling. It is not a matter of price dude. I am very sure a 1999 Camry is more expensive than a 1999 Peugeot 406, even though the 406 might be slightly more expensive when new. A brand new Camry and a brand new Peugot 508 are almost the same price, but people still choose Camry over 508.. so its got nothing to do with price. I can also guarantee u that in 10 years time, a used 2014 Toyota Camry will be way more expensive than a used 2014 Peugeot 508. Why? And u still think Toyota cars are not built to last?

oweniwe: Toyota sells millions of cars in nigeria and yet they don't have plant here. Peugeot on the other hand has a plant in Nigeria churning out new vehicles and you're still abusing them. Stop defending toyota anyhow . . Ok
Where are the Peugeot assembly plants today? Why are they lagging behind compared to the competition? Do u want to compare the number of Toyota dealerships across the country with Peugeots?

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