Kobojunkie:
1. What that instead means is 70% of what you worship are LIES.... Duh!

2. But Jesus Christ never said, "Thou shalt not fornicate." Rather, what He said is if you lust in your heart after a woman, you commit sin - Matthew 5 vs 27 - 28.

3. Again, Jesus Christ made clear in the context of Matthew 19 vs 1 - 11 that those ideas applied in the beginning before man fell. Try to keep up!

4. Who told you to pray for your wedding ceremonies? God doesn't even answer the prayers of the unrighteous; the pleas/requests/petitions of the unrighteous are an abomination to God as they are made filthy by their sins. This means that your prayers amount to nothing in the end, since God only responds to the prayers of those who have been made holy and righteous through continuous submission and obedience to His teachings and commandments.

Look, none of these rituals you all cling to have anything to do with God or that commanded by Him. Once you start to realize this, you begin to understand why Jesus Christ warned His followers to steer clear of the doctrines and traditions of men which He pointed out where in fact lies designed to deceive and delude men away from in fact following the Truth of God - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 & Mark 7 vs 1 - 13.

You're not making sense and I doubt it is the spirit that is guiding you.....Let's agree to disagree.....Shalom!

Kobojunkie:
1. To state that God, in fact , blesses marriages, you have to in fact quote God saying this. So where in scripture did God — of course through Jesus Christ— state that those who are married are blessed by Him in the Kingdom of God?

2. Where in scripture is it written that God sanctions your church weddings? See, God is not arbitrary in His ways — He actually spells out what He does. So where does God do this which you claim?

3. I didn't interpret any of this at all as I simply quoted that stated by Jesus Christ Himself in all of this. BIG PROBLEM....YOU READ BUT NEED ENLIGHTMENT

4. I am afraid I do not exactly understand what you mean when you say God spoke from boh sides of his mouth regarding marriage. Care to elaborate?

Now you're making up things, no it does not have to be quoted since 70% of the way we worship God was never mentioned in the Bible!

Rather than argue baselessly, please clarify why the Bible has rules for fornication, divorce and even marriage but marriage itself is of no consequences?

1. Thou shall not fornicate......So if we can't fornicate what does that mean? We either remain celibate or get married.

2. What God has joined together let no man put asunder.......If you're saying God did not bless marriages then there wouldn't be any religious objection to leaving marriages under any and all reasons.

3. Mathew 19 v 5 For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh. But according to your own argument this is of no concern to God?

Finally, if God does not bless marriages then you can equally say we shouldn't bother praying for anything as the wedding ceremony is nothing but a dedication to God and a prayer to bless the unity. With all due respect, you have no authority to say whether God blesses or does not bless such a ceremony!

Kobojunkie:
1. Sure, he did but He equally made it clear that marriage itself had nothing to do with the Kingdom of God. It's kinda the same way He spoke of obedience in the context of faith without suggesting in any way or form that all acts of faith are of God.

2. Yes, I am serious. Those who are born-again in this life will never die. They become citizens of the Kingdom which Jesus Christ spoke of even while living - John 3 vs 1 - 21. This isn't my interpretation by the way as it is instead what is written in scripture. Even Paul alluded to the very same teachings of Jesus Christ in his letter to the Corinthians where he explains that some will not need to die to experience the transformation from this world to the Kingdom - 1 Corinthians 15. Don't take Paul's words though as he was instead attempting to explain that which is Jesus Christ to people who were struggling to grasp it. You should spend more time reading through the Gospel teachings of Jesus Christ.

Marriage itself has nothing to do with kingdom of God is not the same as saying God does not bless marriages. It is not the same as saying church weddings are invalidated because it has nothing to do with God's kingdom. We seem to be operating from different point of interpretation because I see in no shape or form how what you wrote translates to your initial point of discussion. You're basically saying the lord spoke from both sides of his mouth when it comes to marriages, he speaks about the many variables in marriages but maintains that marriage itself has nothing to do with God.......Doesn't that sound silly?

How many salaried jobs pay 800k monthly or above? See how men are forced to do shady things or steal? When such a man eventually use her as ritual or batters her face in the marriage, we then label such men as MONSTERS......This life

E be like say Obi don knack head for wall, INEC will always back the winner of its process, to do otherwise is to cause harm to INEC itself. Abi Obi don forget say he's not only suing Tinubu but INEC as well.....Werey

Kobojunkie:
1. Jesus Christ did not speak of divorce as a consequence of marriage.

2. To answer this question for yourself, you have to make time to read through the Gospel teachings of Jesus Christ. As Jesus Christ made clear, your marriages are of this world and not of the Kingdom of God - Luke 20 vs 34 - 36; if you do not first accept that Truth of His, you will only end up arguing yourself in circles.

He spoke about divorce in the context of marriage, whether good or bad, you cannot go through a divorce without being married.

You're seriously quoting Luke20:34-36? Really, are you serious? Jesus was talking about resurrection, what is dead may never die, of what use is marriage during resurrection? Each shall be judged individually, no family, no papa or mama. Marriage is for those in the world, don't confuse this with your interpretation that the God has nothing to do with marriage. Ogbeni you're funny, this is pure comedic entertainment

Kobojunkie:
1. Pay attention to the specific question asked in verse 7 to which Jesus Christ then tailored his follow-up response.

2. You need to open your eyes in order to in fact see that divorce is not considered adultery, nor sin, in the entirety of the Gospel teachings of Jesus Christ. In the Gospels, Jesus Christ does not teach that divorce is a sin. Instead, He speaks instead of remarriage being a potential sin for those already divorced, and even those about to marry for the first time. Below you find all references to divorce in all 4 Gospels, and as you can see, not once is divorce directly cited as a sin.

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■ Matthew 5 vs 31 - 32

■ Matthew 19 vs 7 - 9

■Mark 10 vs 10- 12

■ Luke 16 vs 18

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Divorce in and of itself is not a sin, so says Jesus Christ.

You still dey disguise, let me play your game......So if marriage is not part of the contract why would Jesus talk about one of the consequences of marriage which is divorce? Why would he be concerned with how a divorced person chose to move on with his or her life? How can marriage not be part of the contract but adultery based on marriage/divorce part of the teachings of Jesus? Again I ask you, please make it make sense, contradictions upon contradictions

Kobojunkie:
1. Read the passage for yourself to properly digest what Jesus Christ in fact said as opposed to what you have been pushing all this while. His statement was clearly in reference to how it was in the beginning before men fell. And we all know that the deal/contract/Law God had with Man ended after Adam fell and God cursed mankind in Genesis 3 vs 16 - 22. Jesus Christ made reference to that incident to indicate that God's judgment/ruling against mankind, in the beginning, stands even in the Kingdom of God. -

2. Your confusion isn't mine at all.

You need to stick to facts rather than your own interpretation. Here are the complete passages with context:

3 Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?”

4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’[a] 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”

7 “Why then,” they asked, “did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?”

[b]8 Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning.
9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

10 The disciples said to him, “If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry.”

11 Jesus replied, “Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. 12 For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others—and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.”


WHY WOULD DIVORCE BE CONSIDERED ADULTERY WHEN MARRIAGE ITSELF IS OF NO CONCERN TO GOD? SINCE MARRIAGE IS NOT IN THE CONTRACT, WHY WOULD HUMANS BE PUNISHED FOR THINGS OUTSIDE OF THE CONTRACT? YOU SEE SAY YOUR ENTIRE PREMISE GET K LEG?

Kobojunkie:
1. Again, pay attention to the contextual context rather than lifting a verse out of context to assert a meaning separate from that intended by its speaker.
The scriptures from which Jesus Christ quoted in that context are found in the book of Genesis.

So are you saying Jesus was quoting an irrelevant or outdated word of God? Please make it make sense . We all know Matthews was written long after Genesis so why would Jesus quote such if it no longer applied? Your entire premise is that the contract we have with God does not include marriage since we fell from grace during Genesis, so once again why would Jesus refer back to that?

I'm loving this, you keep digging yourself deeper.....

Kobojunkie:
1. At this point, I think it is safe to suggest you stop using the word "contradicting: since it is clear you don't understand its correct application at all..

2. See what religious has done to the minds of men? The book is written in human language and so you are expected to respect language etiquette which includes respecting context. Jesus Christ pointed out what existed in the beginning before God's judgement against mankind, to then indicate the change that is the current. Don't try to validate Jesus Christ against what you have been fed by your pastors and mogs. Rather accept Jesus Christ as the base truth and validate the claims made by your pastors and mogs against the Truth as declared by Jesus Christ Himself.

3. Passages where what? I said what Jesus Christ said in the passage....anyways. God back and read Genesis 3 vs 16 -22 to catch up on God's curse against mankind after the fall. God cursed marriage and even childbirth. Yes, the same God who asked men to multiply cursed their multiplying after man fell. Anyways, you need to unplug your head from the arse of religion to see what is written in that same book you lot claim you believe in but clearly don't follow at all.

You are quoting Genesis but I quoted Matthews, I suggest you go back and read the passages. Which was written first, Genesis or Matthews? So in your infinite wisdom, God cursed marriage and childbirth but in Matthews:

Jesus told the Pharisees, “What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder” (Matthew 19:6).

This has nothing to do with what Pastors say but what is written in the Bible itself, so answer the question? Are you saying God contradicted himself? Are you saying the Bible itself is a contradiction? If you read Matthews 19 further, you'll see where Jesus talked about divorce, so once again in your infinite wisdom, you're saying marriage has nothing to do with God yet Jesus talked about it to the point of divorce? Are you sure you're deeply connected to the spirit? Looks like you've argued yourself into a corner my friend

Kobojunkie:
1. In the Kingdom of God, The one who is the leader over you is the one you worship(submit to and obey)— Jesus Christ made that abundantly clear to all His followers - Matthew 23 vs 8 - 10 & Matthew 6 vs 24.

2. It seems to me that you are not actually born-again to begin with because the questions you ask clearly indicate you don't have a valid experience for yourself of God as we speak. Please visit the following link to verify that you are in fact born-again according to Jesus Christ Himself, and not according to stories fed to you by your pastors and mogs https://www.nairaland.com/7110397/gospel-minddump/3#120563417

The born-again experience is not of con(-fidence) or the imagination. It involves daily interactions with the very spirit of Eternal Life 24/7 experience that no one who ever experienced it can be mistaken for something else. Access into the Kingdom of God begins here in this life and not somewhere out in the future somewhere after you are dead, else, Jesus Christ failed.

3. God's Law and agreement refers to His Constitutional Law in the Land He has given to you. The contract defines an agreement that God expects you to live in submission to and obey all the days of your life if you are to partake of the blessings and rewards He has in store for you. Not everyone alive can partake of those rewards and blessings meaning only those who enter into an agreement with God and in fact, obey God every moment of every day can do so.

4. What you quote there are laws God gave to all of mankind before the fall of man. As Jesus Christ clearly explained to you in the context of the same Matthew 19 vs 1 - 4, that was how it was in the beginning before man chose instead to disobey God. Jesus Christ made this much clear in His teaching right there, that that was what applied before men decided to go their own way away from God.

Stop contradicting yourself and read what I wrote:

If nothing happens in the universe without him knowing and we are all guided by fate/destiny, how then can you say it was not part of the contract. You're saying basically the phrase, be fruitful and multiply is meaningless. You're also saying, the phrase, "What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder” (Matthew 19:6) is a lie......Are you contradicting Jesus? I HOPE NOT!

If you say these passages were before man chose to go astray then I hope you're kidding because Matthew is a long way from Genesis. Finally, ARE YOU BORN AGAIN? Your history on Nairaland contradicts such assertion. No true born again argues on social media the way you do, please reflect and stop deflecting!

Kobojunkie:
1. How in the world did you arrive at that from this? What I instead said is submission in marriage is a curse placed by the Almighty Himself on marriage. God washed His hands off marriage after Adam in an attempt to lay blame at God's feet and fingered God for giving him Eve the one who he, Adam, equally blamed for his disobedience of God. If you read Genesis 3 vs 16 - 22 you will find that the same curse does not exist on a woman who is not in marriage but only on a woman in marriage meaning that marriage indeed is not of God's Kingdom.

2. God doesn't dole blessings on people willy-nilly like you all like to assume. His blessings are instituted as part of His contract/agreement with men, and in Jesus Christ, your marriages, your ceremonies, rituals, etc., are not included as part of the agreement God made with individual men. Your churches and their many ceremonies have absolutely nothing to do with God nor are they a part of the terms and conditions set in His agreement/Covenant.

3. There is nothing "arbitrary" about this as God's Law clearly defines what God will do and what God will not do for men. That men have chosen to add their own doctrines and traditions(lies) — against God by the way, as seen in Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 & Mark 7 v 1 - 13— does not change any of that which God Himself has decreed and proclaimed His everlasting — unchanging — Constitutional Law in the Kingdom of God - Luke 21 vs 33. In the Kingdom of God, there is only one master. Every other master/head over anyone who belongs to Jesus Christ is an idol competing with God and such is an abomination against God Himself - Matthew 23 vs 8 - 10 and Matthew 6 vs 24. Simple and straight.

You are confusing yourself, we are talking about leadership not worshipping. The Bible also say honor thy father and mother, does that equate to worshipping them? Being submissive does not equate worshipping, it only means recognizing the leader of the team. Now you said God does not bless marriages and it is of no concern to him but that could be said about almost anything in the Bible.

What guarantees do you have that God cares about any of your activities in life? Have you died and personally witnessed God's kingdom? No, you haven't hence you're part of the guesswork called life! Your entire premise is flawed, you believe because marriage is man made hence it does not need God's blessing as it was not part of the contract but I have to direct you back to fate.

If nothing happens in the universe without him knowing and we are all guided by fate/destiny, how then can you say it was not part of the contract. You're saying basically the phrase, be fruitful and multiply is meaningless. You're also saying, the phrase, "What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder” (Matthew 19:6) is a lie......Are you contradicting Jesus? I HOPE NOT!

Kobojunkie:
1. You need first to understand and fully grasp the meaning of the statement "Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers" before you can adequately process the rest of what Paul was likely attempting to communicate to you.

2. First things first! Submission in marriage was meant as a curse by God - Genesis 3 vs 16 - and it remains a curse even to this day since God never rescinded that judgment He made against the woman in marriage. What that means is that anyone who submits to another human in marriage remains cursed by God and hence has no part in the blessings of God's Kingdom. Rather, the law in the Kingdom of God is that all are equal - Matthew 23 vs 8 - 10 - and Jesus Christ is the one and only Head over those who belong to Him. So, anyone who claims to have another head is not of Jesus Christ - Matthew 6 vs 24.

Second, your union or agreement in marriage is not blessed by God or His Kingdom as He made clear and certain that your marriages are of this world of men and not of the Kingdom of God - Luke 20 vs 34 - 36. God's blessings lie instead with those who will choose to live as Eunuchs for the sake of His Kingdom - Matthew 19 vs 12. So if you are seeking blessings for your marriage in this, you are mistaken.

That said, Jesus Christ never restricted His disciples as far as their dealing or marriages with unbelievers. As He made clear, marriage is of the world of men and hence it is not a concern to the Kingdom of God whom you choose to marry. However, all who belong to Him are expected to live according to His teachings and commandments in all wise. What this means is that even though a disciple is allowed to do business with unbelievers and even idol worshippers — even the business of marriage —, a disciple of Jesus Christ is not allowed to enter an agreement that then makes him/her a slave to such a one as that violates the requirement that Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ alone remain the one and only head over each who belongs to Him.

Okay you're contradicting yourself! First you stated that marriage itself was a curse to women since they are to be submissive yet a woman should not enter an agreement that makes her submissive to her man or as you put it slave?

You're right marriage is a human conception just like naming ceremony, house warming etc., but guess what? Does this mean you shouldn't ask for the lord's blessing? It's like going on a journey and praying for safety, why do it when God already predetermined one's fate? The ceremony in the Church is the acknowledgement of the higher power, it is honorary yet central to the Christian faith, you can argue that it does not matter to God but that's an arbitrary argument, in the end as a practicing Christian, the man is the head of household while the household is overall under the guidance and protection of the Almighty, any other point of view is null and void.....PEACE!

Kobojunkie:
1. It is not impossible to be unequally yoked with unbelievers. That is pretty much what most churchians do. Your marriages and even businesses are such that you bow to other masters by the agreements/contracts — yokes— you enter into with others in your lives, without even realizing it nullifies your claims to Jesus Christ as your one and only master.

Being equally yoked in your agreements, contracts, and business dealings means you are equal partners with others, and hence no one else can claim lord over you in any way.

In this context, it is talking about people of different spirituality. It is not specifically talking about business arrangements but more of personal. Look at the verses that came after:

And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

In Christian marriages you are still submissive to the higher power, the union must blessed through a ceremony and if you're a Christian it is through the church and ultimately God. So imagine marrying someone that dopes not believe in Christianity, how then can you be equally yoked with such a person? Even in Islam it is advised to marry same faith and if that is not possible, the woman must convert to whatever religion the man practices.

Kobojunkie:
Again.... go ask your English teacher if you are terribly struggling comprehension wise.

Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers when you remove the double negative contained in the statement results to Do be equally yoked with unbelievers. . This is English comprehension 101.

It means the same thing na, since it is impossible to be equally yoked with unbelievers

Dcaliphate:

We are Nigerians and we don't get to choose

There's no WE, go back and read what I wrote, WE assumes there's some form of homogenous cohesion, there's no such thing. In fact, there's nothing like Nigerians.

Dcaliphate:

What you don't get is that we don't chose our leaders here. They come out shouting 'its my turn...'

Oh we definitely choose but the politicians play the division game, even the 'WE' that you mentioned you no fit define am. Who be we? We in Lagos the same as we in the SE? We in SS is it the same we in Kano & Jigawa?

We can be Christian, it can be Muslims or even atheists. We can even choose never to vote for another party apart from APC or PDP.......So again who be we?

Yoighaman:


Thanks for your feedback.

I have not said that we do not have a President-elect whose inauguration would hold in 40 days time.

All I am asking is why his name was associated with drugs in the first place. Whether he was guilty or not, is another story.

I am sure your name has never been associated with Armed Robbery, there is a reason for that. So why is Tinubu's own different? I just need to know, or am l asking for much about a man who is Nigeria's leader?

His name was associated because he got involved with them, as an accountant and financial advisor he handled money from various clients. Tinubu was a party boy in the 70s and 80s, he was well known in Chicago and definitely had close ties to the big men back then who dealt with drugs and fraud..... In fact 70% of Nigerians in Chicago back then were mixed up in such things. The mistake most of the haters are making is thinking the U.S case against him had anything to do with him being a drug dealer, case was all about money laundering, baba was their washer nothing more, nothing less!

Metrofox:


You think cocaine trafficking in Nigeria is not a risk to America?

Let's see they did business with him while he served as Governor, they visited him when he declared his intention to run as president yet you believe he is a risk to America......LMAO.....I don't want to cast you but please go for mental evaluation

Arindin.....Wetin you want make Nairalanders tell you? You've already done the investigative work and can see all the evidence with your koro koro eyes but you still need validation? Werey!

She belongs to the streets, in fact she is the street, her mom na the supplier.......Werey I repeat, take care of your shit and stop disturbing us with your simpology!

You want to enjoy services like those in America and UK, you MUST PAY! People complain no light, bad roads, no security etc but if the government actually provided these things constantly and taxed or assess fees based on consumption, wahlahi una go shout OMO!

On average a 2-3 bedroom flat should be paying 70k per month for electricity, 30k for waste disposal. What people need to be fighting is unemployment and low wages that is not a living wage.

sisisioge:


It will shock you that a lot of women are dropping more than 50% of the share and the men still expect the royal treatment... we all know it's not strange to find women earning more than men in the abroad nowadays. She earns more, drops more, yet you want to subservient her....it mostly dont end well. Meanwhile, I'm sure a lot of women would rather share the bills and chores with men equally to at least ease the burden of the unpaid work( chores) on themselves.

Okay I won't argue with what I don't know but in the USA according to an audit of Lexis Nexis that my team did last year, men still earn 15-20% more than women in the average household here. Another thing that I'm sure of, if she earns more and is willing to split the bill 50/50, me sef go tie apron and turn into Chef Ramsay, who no like enjoyment

armyofone:


Nothing is or should be a man's or woman's job anymore.
Woman paints, mow lawn, do plumbing (yes, lay on the ground, open the drain, and get it fixed etc.
They can do oil change and replace tires.
Point is - nobody should be tag with specific duties - when your woman is also working and bringing in paycheck to support the family, you the man must be supportive in the house cooking, cleaning etc 50/50 or not, it is your home too - join hands in building it.
I have heard some men don't want to read to their kids. They say it is a woman job! Ummmm
In marriage, all hands must be on deck. It is simple - be each other support/helpmate/backbone etc.

Yea in an ideal world this would be true but unfortunately it does not work that way in real life. Mowing the lawn, changing tires, plumbing fixing while she has a man is looked upon as wickedness and an act of disgust. I'm sure you have many female friends or family, ask them how they feel about this. Talk is cheap but when it comes to actually doing these things, you'll realize women don't really want that kind of equality. My wife of 8 years would rather I do these things than to share cooking responsibilities with her, in fact she still told me yesterday, mr.man stay out of my kitchen

sisisioge:


How many times in a week do you need a paint job, carpentry, plumbing, mowing and all those supposed men's jobs? The average family with kids eat 3 times a day, laundry once per week, sweeping once per day, caring for the kids round the clock, etc. Again if both are working and contributing, it is too much to ask of a woman to shoulder those chores alone. The latest auto vacuum cleaning is still a new thing in homes, good old brooms and vacuum are human energy consuming tools to use!

I bet your Grandma disnt have to work and share bills equally with her husband, she didnt invest so much money and time into a professional career and education only to have to take on the wifely duties in absolution. Ypu guys want a woman that brings something to the table, a woman with good career and education, yet you want her to be the copy of your grandma Besides, Grandma must have had help from family and friends raising her kids and keeping home....what does the modern woman have? Since its wahing machine, load it and fold the cloths as your contribution to the house work biko. Be in charge of bathing the kids and getting them ready for school in the morning while madam makes their food and lunch pack....etc. Do you wonder why the whites don't pull the evil woman's card in divorce as much as the African women? Because their men were not trained like ours to subservient women. Unfortunately, we are still raising our boys the way Grandma raised our dads.

Pls interview 10 out of the nigerian marriages in trouble there to hear the cause of the discord....life can be much easier if we do the right thing.

Again I ask you, do you expect a man to pay 60-80% of the bills and still be the one to do the laundry and cook? Is this your definition of equality? The only part I accept is helping out with the kids, maybe bathing them and taking them to school etc but that food and laundry, lai lai! You brought out example were they shared financial responsibilities 50/50 but how many households do you know that split bills this way and are happy?

sisisioge:


My brother, if you are married to a woman that works as much as you do, contribute economically to the household as you do, then it is too much for you to also expect at bolded from her because she's your wife. If you have the machine, endeavour to load it as much as she does. If you have kids, take care of them as much as she does. Take care of the cleaning as much as she does.....etc. this way, you are equally responsible for the success of your marriage and home. One party burnout wont be a thing.

By the way, are you aware of how much surrogates earn now? Your wife does that for free while even still working to support the household.

Cleaners dont even charge you the minimum wage abroad, they charge at least twice the minimum wage per hour to cleanup. Madam does it for free.

Cooks/chefs. Let's not start imagining how much their time cost.

Nannies....

Imagine men expecting all these from their wives despite her working just like they are plus additional king treatment. It's just unfair, that's what causes majority of the fights in abroad marriages. While in Nigeria, a lot of women stomach it because they mostly have access to cheap maids or support from families but once abroad, it's just them and it doesn't take so long to snap. If you want peace, do not overburden your spouse!

Unless you have a full time housewife, it's quite unfair for you to expect your abroad wife to keep up the "good woman" vibe of naija.


Meanwhile, yes there are some really irrational/irresponsible women who would do anything to be rid of you no matter how good you are to them. It is well.

Then what's the essence of a wife? Loading washing machine or dryer is now a thing that must be shared equally? Preparing a meal for your family is now maid work? Are you actually married? In most households they do order take in once or twice a week so I'm short of words this burnout theory.

Furthermore, there are so many other domestic duties that men are not expected to split with their wives such as lawn mowing, plumbing issues, car issues, carpentry work, paint work etc. In fact here in America, I've learned to be an handyman because the cost of labor is so high but what I refuse to subject myself to is the core duties of a wife. Preparing dinner, a clean home and laundry are the bear minimum, to make it easier we have automatic machines for everything including sweeping and moping yet burnout still dey? My grandma would be rolling in her grave right now at all these so called modern wives

Lastly, I love your caveat, if both are working full time and contribute economically in equal parts, I can assure you 90% of the households in UK or US are not splitting bills 50/50; perhaps if the bills were actually split 50/50 I can understand the man forgoing some of his basic rights but anything short of that is plain rubbish.....

sisisioge:


It is well o....I pity the poor guy. The thing is most Nigerian guys want to treat their marriages like they do in Nigeria completely forgetting that expectations are different in the abroad. Women are extremely powerful when it comes to marriage and so men need to handle marriage with wisdom and protect themselves. A woman will not worship you in abroad. She will not allow herself to be subservient to you. She will not condone cheating, bullying and domestic violence from you. She will not allow you turn her into a maid. Once you know this, your life will be peaceful.

Unfortunately, while Nigerian women were taught to be submissive and good women in naija, the men were not trained to be kind and fair to their women. The norm is once there is an unrest in a marriage, naija folks will boldly sweep the man's fault under the carpet while advising the woman to "bear" it. No wonder they become tigresses at the first sign of freedom abroad...naija men better stop marrying abroad to avoid learning the hard way as these women are out to draw blood when scorned. Or they can change their ways.

It is well....nothing beats fairness in any relationship.

Do you know that women cheat too? Do you understand that women become lazy and financially inept as well over the years? Is it wrong for a husband to expect home cooked meals, clean home and clothes while married? Would this be considered turning her into a maid even tho washing machine and dryer is installed and the husband only eats one meal at home per day?

I believe when it comes to fairness in marriages, most of you women don't want fairness/equality, what most of you want is equity and preferential treatment. Look at U.K and U.S laws surrounding divorces, even when the woman is the reason for the divorce she still walks away happier in terms of financial compensation.

It's a tale of two worlds, in 9ja divorce laws are too laxed while abroad it is too strict. Many men are suffering because they chose love over logic. You can love someone yet have the logic to understand that he/she may hurt you. The inability to prepare for the worst possible scenario is what gets most men depressed and dejected after divorce.

This is why the Christian faith has become nothing more than pure mockery....Everything na miracle, everything na signs and wonders . So the bride, if she did not see rainbow or any supernatural sign on the wedding day she would have called off the wedding? See height of delusion!

Okay then deduct 8% from each candidate's result from those polling units and call it a day......What's the square root of zero?

deyplay:
for which country?

Advanced countries, USA, UK, most of Europe. When you divorce, assets are split.

am4truth:
Its wickedness to ask for 50 percent of someone wealth just because you married him and have kids for him.

Thank you Hakimi.....

She didn't ask, it is the law and na we men cause am! Before before we dey divorce women, send them packing with nothing. We dey even send the kid join and leave them to depend on government for survival.

Adabestseason:
DNA is good but some results can be misleading due to poor infrastructures

Misleading for 4 children? Make una dey fear God o