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Family / Re: I do not feel loved by my wife, Is this enough reason to quit my marriage? by abbey621(m): 8:06pm On May 24, 2023
Nigerians and over emphasis on sex....Spits! Dem swear for una? You dey get am once a week and you still complain, mr. man we have people that are lucky to get it once or twice a month, we have people that get it every week but the sex is terrible.....Better thank your lucky star!

If this is the only problem and are apparent method of locking up when angry, my guy it is still fixable, people are dealing with bigger and stronger shege in their marriage, better be grateful! A man just found out none of his 3 kids were his after 12 years of marriage, a woman just found out her husband has another family after 14 years of marriage, she even goes to the same church with the woman and her kids.

Once again, if your marital problems involves only limited sex and a slight wayward attitude, bro you ain't got PROBLEMS!

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Sports / Re: Spanish Federation Rescinds Vinicius Jnr's Red Card, Fines Valencia by abbey621(m): 5:26pm On May 24, 2023
Bfly:
Africa's lack of development is why racism still strive. You come to Nigeria and racially abuse me.

But you are free to be tribalized and prejudiced right? As long as it is from your fellow blacks it is perfectly okay? Most of una suffer more in Nigeria than you'll ever suffer in Europe or America, racism or no racism, na we dey do ourselves grin grin grin
Family / Re: Women Are Not Divorcing Men In Nigeria Enough! - Vash Offo by abbey621(m): 5:21pm On May 24, 2023
It is funny, the story always comes from friend but the friend wey dey tell the story, are you married? Of course not! One thing I've noticed about such women they are miserable and are only looking to recruit more women into their misery.

We thank God this time the man has not been accused of domestic violence or rape, we thank God the brotha has not been accused of being a deadbeat!

Finally, notice how her experience of two friends led her to conclude that women are suffering in marriages but can we ask, how come she does not see any of her friends enjoying their marriage? How come all she sees is misery? Angel of sadness grin grin grin
Politics / Re: Biden Announces US Presidential Delegation To Attend Tinubu's Inauguration by abbey621(m): 2:37pm On May 23, 2023
Nwaetche:

This is Shameful indeed!

Not even the US Secretary of State?

This shows exactly shows how the Biden Administration regards the incoming Tinubu Administration. personalities involved in delegation for Presidential inauguration has always been a reflection of how the US Administration views any incoming government.

Sending a lowly placed cabinet secretary to attend to an inauguration of the "most important" country in Africa is an insult to say the least and unfortunately many Nigerians are tripping over this obvious humiliation of Tinubu and his incoming administration.

In Buhari’s first term, The Honorable John Kerry, Secretary of State was the leader of the delegation

In a normal clime, the US would have been represented by the VP Kamela Harris who is second in the line of succession.

For your information, per the US Power hierarchy as enunciated by the succession act of 1947, the order of seniority and the line of succession of US officials are as follows:

1. The President POTUS

2. The VP - Kamala Harris

3. The Speaker of US HOR - Kevin McCathy

4. US President Pro Tempo of the Senate - Patty Murray

5. Secretary of State - Anthony Blinken

6 Secretary of Defence - Lloyd Austin

7 . Attorney General - Merrick Garland

8. Secretary of Interior - Deb Harland

9. Secretary of Agriculture - Tom Vilsack

10. Secretary of Commerce - Gina Raimondo

11. Secretary of labour - Julie Su

12. Secretary of Health and Human Services Xavier Becerra

13. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development - Marcia Fudge




Jargon.......You don't even realize the U.S is in the middle of a debt crisis and all hands are on deck, none of the top 10 people on that list can leave the country right now as things are very very hot.......You must think the world revolves around Nigeria grin grin grin

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Family / Re: Is Flogging A Part Of Good Parenting ? by abbey621(m): 10:28pm On May 16, 2023
Yugoslavia247:
Despite all the flogging, we are still the most corrupt nation. High rate of internet fraud, hook up.

Flogging never actually worked.

Many parents flogg and gave up. Children revolt and fight back. Children become more dangerous and beast mode is activated.

Alot of children want to stay away from home.

At the end the flogging will at a point be needless. That is when most parent use the real parenting skills of advise and pleading.

You can not flog an 18 year old. He will fight you.

I think real parenting is the ability to use the other forms of effective punishment and reward approach. Because advise is the best.

In school the most notorious are still the most flogged. Did they stop being notorious? No.

The most pampered are more willing to excel academically.

In parenting, the ability to use the carrot and stick approach effectively works to a very large extent.

Children get use to beating and it becomes ineffective.

At a point you would not be able to beat that child. What will you do?

This is Africa where we we teach morals to children and encourage corruption of adults

Spits


In Africa is where a Father teaches his children not to steal while he loots his place of work endlessly

We actually are too lazy in African schools to imbibe theories of parenting and teaching. We prefer the easier route. Using pain and fear.

If many Nigeria teachers were living abroad they will learn patience and respect for children rights.

We most certainly do not respect that in Nigeria.

Many wealthy politicians sent their children to these schools in Nigeria where no one hits their children.

These same children end up the in elite and political class. They very confident and outspoken.

Flogging is for the poor.


In life anything done out of balance or improperly would yield bad results. The same applies to flogging or physical discipline. The first step in parenting is teaching, if a child does not know right from wrong, good from evil then how can such a child behave appropriately? Flogging cannot and will not replace proper communication and learning.

Now to your point, Nigeria is highly corrupt just like all the other countries that share these three things:

1. Poverty ( Unemployment, Underemployment, Bigotry, Nepotism etc)
2. Insecurity & Lack of Amenities
2. A failed system

Give Nigerians a system like the USA and I guarantee you Nigerians would perform excellently.......Case in point, look at the numerous folks wey dey jaapa to America. Majority of them behave themselves. They pay taxes, wear seat belts, follow road signs, respect the cops, maintain proper hygiene etc.

If those same people had remained in Nigeria, it is very possible that majority of them would be just as corrupt as the government. This only proves that you cannot say flogging works or does not work based on the corruption in Nigeria, rather we must look at the overall picture.

LEt's compare Nigeria to a country where they rarely flog their children, the gold ol USA. How are the American born students performing in schools? What percentage of the kids end up being drug users? How many of the female kids end up having juvenile sex? How many turn to violence and become mass murderers?

If your theory on flogging was correct, shouldn't a country like the USA raise one of the best set of kids on the planet? The reality is that compared to the 1960s and 1970s, American born kids are 10 times more rotten. Upon all the children's rights, the relationship between parents and their kids is at an all time low. The family system is a joke now and as early as 15 these kids are emancipating themselves from frying pan to fire. In life anything done out of balance or improperly would yield bad results, whether it is flogging or being padi padi with your kids!

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Family / Re: My Rent Was Increased Because I Bought A Car. by abbey621(m): 3:48pm On May 16, 2023
I increased my tenant's rent from 650k to 800k, I gave notice of such increase along with a 6 month's quit notice at all 4 of my properties, any tenant that feels such is not reasonable should gladly not renew and leave the premises......LIFE NO HARD....I'm an equal opportunity landlord, Yoruba, Igbo, Hausa.....I dey increase rent every 3-4 years and as long a Naira to Dollar continues like this, I go still increase am to 1 million.....I CAN'T SHOUT grin grin grin

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Celebrities / Re: Policeman Slapped By Seun Kuti Is In 'Coma' - Police by abbey621(m): 3:39pm On May 16, 2023
9ja na cruise I swear......Make Seun settle this people now, no need for the drama, coma ba wo grin grin grin grin
Family / Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by abbey621(m): 3:35pm On May 16, 2023
aswani:


I once debated with kobojunkie on this forum, I had to give up the (very regrettable experience) in the end.

That person will twist your words every which way just to make their point, regardless of the fact that the point you were making bears no resemblance to what it is they are saying.

I was genuinely curious about them and decided to go through their posting history, it didn't take me long to realise that was their modus operandi.

I can see nothing has changed in that regard.

Lol....Kobo loves arguing baselessly, we all know that now grin grin grin
Family / Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by abbey621(m): 1:02am On May 16, 2023
1stGenAmerican:


I’m a member of a national organization that gives close to a million dollars in merit scholarships to graduating seniors that belong to minority groups every year, matter of fact we’re announcing winners next week, and I help to analyze data to pick the recipients—nothing you tell me will change my mind about what I know. There are literally hundreds of thousands of non-immigrant Black children excelling and attending college just as there are those with immigrant backgrounds. I’m damned proud to be of Nigerian descent but I’m not one of those with the we’re perfect, always wearing blinders Nigerian-elitist mindset.
You want me to look up SAT scores which has nothing to do with anything but why don’t you look up some of the shit our Nigerian youth are doing in America and getting caught. Those stories almost never make it back home.
We’re surrounded by glass and need to recognize that instead of just throwing stones.
Goodbye.

Again what you wrote has no bearing on the fact that I stated, minorities are still dominating top 20 high schools in America in terms of intelligence. You can argue all you want, it is just one of the reference point of why the parenting styles of minorities are preferred over Caucasians or black Americans. So get back to topic Mr. or Ms. member, when all things are equal and Nigerian kids are presented with the same opportunities as non Nigerian kids, do they excel or not? Overall, are Nigerian kids in the USA more well behaved than their American peers?

Yes Nigeria as a whole is messed up and lots of work to be done but this does not take away from my point on parenting style!

P.S I also work with data, in fact I.T audit to be precise, my employer J.P. Morgan Chase is also one of the largest contributors to minority communities, keep up the good work!
Family / Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by abbey621(m): 12:24am On May 16, 2023
1stGenAmerican:


Not only is this a generalization, it’s an outright lie. I don’t fall for sensationalism, instead I base my thoughts/feelings on life experiences and facts. It’s funny that you think that American and European kids are the only ones using drugs or suffering from traumatic experiences when there is an equal amount of African kids (including Nigerian kids) on both the American and European continents suffering from trauma and self-medicating with drugs. The difference? Americans and Europeans don’t hide their shit from their families or the outside world while most Africans(including Nigerians) who are experiencing the same damned things with their children will go to the ends of the earth to hide what’s going on from their families and other Nigerians. Don’t say I’m wrong because I‘m half Nigerian myself and grew up in America around Nigerians and other Africans and witnessed them locking their kids away, beating them into submission, sending them back to Nigeria or whatever part of Africa they came from and bribing poor relatives with money to house/raise them, marrying them off to be someone else’s trouble, or just turning a blind eye and not caring as long as no one they knew found out.
You probably also don’t know that when many of these Nigerian/other African kids grow up, they cut their parents off and live life permanently estranged from them. I’m not saying all but I’m saying many and some of the ones that don’t cut them off harbor deep resentment towards their parents and see them as a burden.
Chinere Ogazi and other YouTubers are good examples. She speaks about being physically, mentally, and emotionally abused by her Nigerian father and while she and her brother were walking around in America with holes in their shoes, her father was boxing up new clothes to send home to family in Nigeria along with most of the family’s money. Another one speaks about being abused by every male member of her family. You're going to hear more and more stories because unlike older generations, younger generations that realize that abuse is not normal are speaking up and calling their elders out on their bullshit.
I disagree with the top 20 students all being immigrants because that’s a myth but let me tell you something funny. If you gain the trust of some of the Nigerian-American youth who excel in school, they’ll tell you in confidence that they’re doing well in school and working hard so that they can get the hell away from their parents ASAP. It’s not a rarity for them to purposely attend schools and settle clear across the America from their parents. Children with good sense grow up to hate their abusers. 😏
And those stories about Nigerian women migrating to the West and divorcing their husbands? They’re tired of getting beaten like animals and drop their abusers like the rotten, dead weight they are. 😀
Obviously, you and I won’t agree on any of this so my discourse with you on this subject is done. Goodbye

Again you just don't get it, you can argue all you want but it does not change anything. Please look up top 20 high schools in the USA based on SAT scores or whatever educational criteria you like and then come back here to explain that minorities are not dominating that list. I said dominating I did not say all!

So let me get this straight based on your own life experience you can generalize but my own life experience is considered a taboo? The nerve of you people on this forum grin grin grin. You're right, we'll never see eye to eye.....PEACE!
Family / Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by abbey621(m): 11:51pm On May 15, 2023
BeLookingIDIOT:

Still your country is a shithole,and you're running to live and raise your kids in those not well behaved countries undecided

Your point? Point of correction, dual citizen here so what do you mean by your country? Ji ma sun!
Family / Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by abbey621(m): 11:48pm On May 15, 2023
Kobojunkie:
1. Rather, that seems more your area of expertise.

2. Again, this all amounts to meaningless ramblings given that there are no definitive studies to show that in fact, abuse is more rampant in the U.S or that Nigerian kids are better raised overall than their American counterparts.

Oga I gave you links, the Least you can do is READ.....,READ!!! Stop this laziness!
Family / Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by abbey621(m): 11:47pm On May 15, 2023
jedisco:


Every nation has it's delinquent. It's one thing to have a rough few and another to have a police force that appeals for bribe openly at every juncture.

That aside, if the goal of beating children is to make better adults and hence society, can you use Nigeria as an example and show us how that has worked out for our society?

Even the police force that you mentioned, the majority of them do not collect bribe openly. The ones on the roads represents less than 10% of the force. Using Nigeria as an example is easy, just look at majority of people that jaapa to foreign countries, what percentage of them are law abiding, hardworking citizens? In the USA, over 70% end up not only excelling in school but they go on to have a very good career.

I tell you honestly now, let Nigeria fix it's insecurity, lack of stable electricity, unemployment, you would see more positive actions from people overall. There's a saying that you never really know the true character of a man until he's backed against the wall, this is the reality of most Nigerians, people doing anything just to survive. Even that policeman on the road is a victim as well but you can't see that because you're not in his shoes grin
Family / Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by abbey621(m): 11:42pm On May 15, 2023
1stGenAmerican:


What you’re saying is that kidnapping, cultism, Yahoo/fraud/419, theft, misogyny, cultism, killing, sexual abuse, and everything that goes on is considered being well-behaved, right?
Take this board as an example. According to the statistic you gave us, 90% of the monikers on this board were abused as children and many of them can’t participate in a simple discussion about a regular topic without cursing, insulting, threatening, terrorizing, and wishing hurt on people that they don’t agree with or who don’t agree with them. A story about something such as a weather event or a pageant will result in replies filled with death threats, curses, insults about a person’s parents, and so much more. That’s isn’t well-behaved and it definitely isn’t normal.
I know plenty of adults who were born there and migrated here as children or teenagers and a large majority of them suffer from PTSD and are in counseling due to the abuse they faced as children. I have a close friend who moved here when she was 12 and her father beat her so bad from the time she could walk until she left his house, her grandfather gave her beatings, and her brothers were allowed to beat her. If that wasn’t enough, her brothers, cousins, and an uncle molested her when she was a kid and even after spending years in therapy, she refuses to date Nigerian men because she lives in fear of being abused the way she was as a child by every Nigerian man that should’ve protected her. Really sad.
Nothing is normal about abuse and abused children do not turn out to be well-behaved.

I'm sorry to say but you're not being objective you're comparing a public forum with what exactly? How about you go on foxnews.com and check out their forum, if you spend more than 1 hour there before feeling enraged or sad, I'll bend! I'm going to explain this again this time slowly, I'm talking about overall results not just a micro evaluation.

You know plenty that migrated and are suffering from PTSD, please quantify! 10, 20, 50, 100 or 1000? Now compare it to the average American or European kid suffering from the same from drug use or traumatic experience.......You lot love to talk about your own microscopic experiences but refuse to weigh it against the overall stats.

The truth is majority of kids and adults that migrated from Nigeria to the U.S or Europe are well behaved, law abiding, hardworking people, there's nothing to suggest otherwise. Do not be deceived by sensationalism!
Family / Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by abbey621(m): 11:35pm On May 15, 2023
Kobojunkie:
1. The reason is simple, there are still no larger works to show that flogging in fact works or does not work in Nigeria, and I would rather assume that it works when I know from my experience that it does not necessarily work. I mean my classmates in high school. We all belong to a Whatsapp group, well, at least those of us who are still alive and able to connect to date. undecided

2. Your opinion was meant to counter mine, was it not? You cannot counter my opinion born on my experience with your opinion. This ain't rocket science. undecided

Now if you are instead referring to your lame attempts at suggesting, without evidence that Nigerian kids are better behaved than American kids, then I suggest you go back to your logic text to understand how that absolutely can't work without researched evidence to show this for a fact. undecided


You love arguing baselessly so it is nothing new to most of us on this forum, on one hand you provide your own opinion based on your experience and you expect it to be accepted, on the other hand you say I cannot counter it base on my own experiences even though I've lived in both environments, isn't that hypocritic?

I'm not going to bore you too much with my methods, just pick any of the top 20 high schools in the USA and check out their top 10 students, you would see minorities dominating the list especially Asian and Africans.

Another angle, what percentage of kids in the USA got physically violent with their parents? 5-22% , if you believe it is the same or worse in Nigeria then you need to start acting comedy grin grin

You want research, please read these:

Kennair, N., & Mellor, D. (2007). Parent abuse: A review. Child Psychiatry and Human Development, 38, 203–219. doi:10.1007/s10578-007-0061-x.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2019/11/29/777295848/when-teens-abuse-parents-shame-and-secrecy-make-it-hard-to-seek-help

A 2008 study by the U.S. Justice Department found that while most domestic assault offenders are adults, about 1 in 12 who come to the attention of law enforcement are minors. In half of those cases, the victim was a parent, most often the mother.

Finally, it is really not my job to educate you so how about I let you believe what you will and you let me do the same.....DEAL?
Family / Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by abbey621(m): 11:05pm On May 15, 2023
jedisco:



When you say disobedient and wayward, it's good to see the larger picture.
The best way of grading the kind of discipline a child gets is to grade the adult and society it produces.
Police folk asking for bribe at every stop, immigration folk asking for bribe at airports, villages being raided and hundreds killed while the nation remains silent. All these rampant atrocities were done by adults who were fully disciplined.


Are you saying all those people represents the majority of Nigerians? All the folks you mentioned, are they up to 2 million? It's just like saying the police killing black folks, the white supremacists, the mass murderers, the hoodrats, the drug dealing elegbon in the USA all represents the parenting style of Americans......We all know that's only part of the picture and not the entire picture!
Family / Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by abbey621(m): 10:59pm On May 15, 2023
Kobojunkie:
1. There is no evidence for any of the claims you keep making in your desperate attempts to compare Nigerian kids to American kids, so die that nonsense altogether. undecided

As for the former, well, my folks stopped hitting me at 14, as I previously explained, however, I have friends whose parents did not stop until even their 20s. Many of them rebelled eventually going down the wrong path. Most of them even to this day are still spinning wheels as far as who they are mentally.

2. Yet again, there is no evidence of this at all. It is simply a myth you have been fed that you lot hold to without really reasoning for yourselves. undecided

You keep citing examples of your own little bubble (Abi what do you mean by friends, 2, 5, 10 even 50? Does that equate to majority?) yet when I cite my own opinion you shout NO EVIDENCE....You people are funny, even when it stares you in the face you love playing the denial card......It is well, let each person act according to his or her experiences, I can only share my own analysis having experienced Nigerian and American parenting styles and the consequent results......PEACE!
Family / Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by abbey621(m): 10:55pm On May 15, 2023
JohnBullMySon:
If it has to be in the news then it is not common. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, just that it's not common as you say.

Let's even assume it is common, it does not automatically mean disrespect. It depends on the context.

CbsNews na wetin? Social media? There are hundreds of articles/reporting on the net, simple Google search that's all it takes. In which of the infinite universes does calling your parents by their first names not equivalent to disrespect? Take away the term parents, will you call your big aunt or uncle by their first names? Why do we love entertaining rubbish?
Family / Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by abbey621(m): 10:27pm On May 15, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Compared to other parents, my parents were mild. Physical abuse leaves scars and each person handles them differently is all. Flogging a child does not necessarily mean that child would turn out right — that much I know a lot about — nor does it guarantee said a child would grow into a responsible human being. A lot of folks who were raised harsher than I was didn't out so well, as a matter of fact, I am glad I fought back when I did as I am at least not clouded at this point in my life as many of them remain. undecided

So, if it produces results that aren't necessarily better than not flogging at all, what is the point of it? undecided

Are you speaking from the point of view of majority or are you just cherry-picking the cases that it didn't turn out right? I always like to look at things from a more complete point of view. I know I might sound like a broken record but overall when all things are equal, Nigerian kids are still more disciplined than American kids.

Good or bad, the flogging kept most of us from experimenting our wild tendencies as kids or teenagers. It is a brain resetting mechanism that works wonderfully well when implemented properly with due moderation.
Family / Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by abbey621(m): 10:23pm On May 15, 2023
JohnBullMySon:
Exaggerated stories. People calling their parents by their first names may not even be up to 5 percent. Do you have any examples? Adults yes but not parents.

It is more common than you know especially in USA households with over 80 million children, the percentage might be 5% like you said but 5% of 50 million(80 million minus orphans, those living with grandparents, uncles etc) is what? 2.5 million, that is 2.5 million kids calling their parents, Betty & Joe! In the 70s it was virtually non existent but nowadays it is seen as signs of emancipation for being a cool parent.

[url]https://www.phillytrib.com/commentary/backintheday/back-in-the-day-calling-your-parents-by-their-first-names-is-a-no-no/article_9407332a-52e4-5add-b17d-a9ddd98b9e88.html#:~:text=Some%20children%20call%20their%20parents,want%20a%20less%20formal%20relationship.[/url]
https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/parents-names/
https://www.metroparent.com/parenting/oh-mother/kids-call-parents-by-their-first-names/
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/calling-parent-by-first-name_b_1453337
Family / Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by abbey621(m): 10:09pm On May 15, 2023
ZIMDRILL:


i agree with you on action and consequences the problem with most africans, we dont explain in details, therefore our kids dont understand their own action

eg a child sometimes is not allowed to explain his/her action becoz s/he is not allowed to explain him/her regardless his/her point of view is useless

untill us parent let out children explain i their own reasoning we will never understand how they think and u will able to guide them based on their individual thinking

unfortunately most african cultures doesnt allow children to explain themselves regardless whether they make sense or not

the most common phrase used by children o the western is " why" therlir asking for your reason/s

the ideak is

I agree with you to an extent, some things do not need explanation such as skipping school, drugs, juvenile sex and so on. The way the world is going, kids are getting bolder and bolder, parents must learn to balance the western way of parenting with our traditional African methods, otherwise these kids would have no future to look forward to.
Family / Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by abbey621(m): 10:06pm On May 15, 2023
Kobojunkie:
1. The abuse ended in my case at 14 after I angrily tried to throw my dad and myself down the stairs while he was attempting to punish me yet again. I was already emotionally battered by it all by then. I am certain there are many such cases of teenagers fighting their parents back that you know of. undecided

2. That is a rubbish conclusion abeg! undecided

You must be one heavyweight or perhaps your dad no get weight.......We all know that parents can over do things at times but to throw away the entire notion of physical discipline just because of that makes no damn sense!
Family / Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by abbey621(m): 9:56pm On May 15, 2023
Kobojunkie:
So long as one does not die from abuse —irrespective of the physical and psychological toll that inflicts on the child— it is to be overlooked? Kind of like the Nigerian police flogging citizens is Ok so long as their victims dont die, abi? undecided

If your parent physically disciplining you is considered abuse then 90% of Nigerian kids are abused and guess what? Overall they are still much more well behaved than American or European kids.

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Family / Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by abbey621(m): 9:45pm On May 15, 2023
Shokoloko:

The man is the foolish one here. If you poop, you clean it up.
If he knew he had caused that much damage to the child's body, why did he not begin treatment immediately?
At the point the son was standing facing the garden lots of light would have shone on his body and his father should have noted the injuries and started applying balm.

Okay then two wrongs makes it right? Again I repeat, knowing fully well the type of country they are located in, did she fully consider the consequences? The man was foolish I accept but now that he is in jail is the family happier?

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Family / Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by abbey621(m): 9:42pm On May 15, 2023
Kobojunkie:
So, knowing full well the country that she was in, she shouldn't have taken her bruised-up 9-year-old to the hospital? WOW.... irredeemable! undecided

Yes there was no need for hospital, many of us have treated bruises at home just fine, in fact unless you didn't school in 9ja, the floggings from teachers pass this one and we all didn't die!

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Family / Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by abbey621(m): 9:37pm On May 15, 2023
Shokoloko:

Why will she treat bruises at home? Why didnt the man treat the bruises at home?
You are taxed heavily for healthcare. So why will you pay taxes for healthcare and still pay privately for healthcare?
Isn't it dumb to pay for one product twice? By the way, the woman did not report that man. The hospital did

Knowing fully well the country that she was in? Knowing fully well that they count it as a big deal and it could literally mean the end of her family as she knows it? Sometimes wisdom is better than being right!

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Family / Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by abbey621(m): 9:36pm On May 15, 2023
Reference:


If you do all these and cannot teach, instruct, guide and then task, assess, wash and wear again you still have not achieved anything. You don't graduate from school by your teachers just talking to you everyday in a lovable manner. There has to be a plan, there has to be a syllabus, there has to be instructions and there has to be a test. The quality of this determines how your kids will turn out.

I have always considered violence as the preserve of the ignorant.
When you have to use violence it means you are either not communicating well or communicating wrong.
The child is not receiving or understanding what you want or how you want it.
I cannot see what violence does to enhance this process.

When a parent is enraged at his child it simply says I am angry with myself for not being able to do it.

A wise man once said, everybody has a plan until you get punched in the jaw! I'll keep referring to the American way of raising a child vs the African way, with all things equal, you cannot possibly say just talking or communicating gets the job done, evidence points to otherwise, from drug abuse to juvenile sex and gun violence.

Kids needs to understand Newton's third law of motion, ACTIONS & CONSEQUENCES! For most people it involves communicating that if you behave well there are rewards, if you misbehave there are consequences. Consequences can vary just as rewards, a child that knows that the worst you can do is take away their privilege such as phone, going outside etc., that child can determine that the risk is worth it but a child that knows that wa fe ku ni ale yi(Serious flogging) if he or she misbehaves, OMO that fear alone keeps them within boundaries until they are 18, after 18 he or she can do whatever!

These are not just words, these are time tested way of raising children and it is evident when we compare the stat of children abroad to children in Nigeria with all things equal, the average Nigerian kid will dust the average American or British kid in terms of education, discipline and overall morality! Until this changes, I'll prefer the wisdom of experience over cheap talk!

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Family / Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by abbey621(m): 9:01pm On May 15, 2023
cococandy:
That’s absolutely not true

It is absolutely true, shall we compare statistics or do you prefer emotional rhetoric?

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Family / Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by abbey621(m): 9:00pm On May 15, 2023
This is a case of marrying a bad wife and having bad kids! Clearly the issue wouldn't have escalated if those bruises were treated at home, ordinary bruise, mama don reach hospital, she even provided the incriminating weapon.....Ki la gbe ki le ju shocked

Abroad no be beans, your spouse, your kids, neighbors, government, everything will frustrate you as a man, be careful the type of woman you chose to marry, she could be the difference between jail or thanksgiving!

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Family / Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by abbey621(m): 8:56pm On May 15, 2023
cococandy:


If a parent needs to beat their children for them to respect them , then they never had control over them in the first place.

Our kids even when they are stubborn and disobedient (which is normal) still need to be able to have respect for us without the threat of violence. Your kids need to be able to look at , your presence, the way you carry yourself etc and feel a sense of respect and reverence for you. If violence is the only way to get that from them, there are baseline issues that need to be resolved

Funny.....Upon all the talking and loving, being their friend and having an open mind, guess what? Kids living in the USA and the UK are 50 times more disobedient and wayward than Nigerian kids, this is pure undiluted fact! When all things are equal in terms of shelter, food and attention, Nigerian kids are angelic compared to those American kids calling their mom and dad, Joe & Betty!

Let's forget 9ja and focus on black Americans, households where at least one parent is a disciplinarian are often better off than one without a disciplined parent. You'll hear a black kid tell his friends, "my mama don't play that, big mama will slap you upside your head if you misbehave!"

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Celebrities / Re: Chikezie Uwazie Dies In US by abbey621(m): 4:32pm On May 15, 2023
doctokwus:

Exact same thing I wanted to ask.
So someone can die after surgery in the country with one if not the most advanced healthcare industry in the world?
Weigh the comments and assume this actor had died in Nigeria after this same brain surgery.Experiences will start flooding in of how one hospital or doctor after the other killed someone they know.
Just by reading that this was his second brain surgery and assuming the first was done here,the comments would have been how the first surgical team messed up the whole thing and that if he had known he wouldn't have done the first here,that if he had done the first abroad,need for a second operation won't have even arisen.

Anybody fit kpai anywhere but at least in the USA, they'll do their possible best to save you rather than being at the mercy of electricity, insecurity, incompetence etc.
Food / Re: Guinness World Records' Reaction To Hilda Baci’s Cook-a-Thon by abbey621(m): 4:29pm On May 15, 2023
The real question is this, was the body notified of the attempt to go for such record or was it done without informing them? This is why they need to verify, I'm sure once it is verified she'll be given her record, Hilda is amazing!

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