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solistic:
@Abdulwastecx, permit me to bring you back to this topic of providing the starter bar for the stair during the DPC level/ground floor slab. If this was not done at DPC level, can it still be done afterwards, like during the decking. I know that at that stage the reinforcement will not be attached to anything. What is the disadvantage of this?

It can still be done at the decking stage.
At the decking stage one will need to create an opening on the dpc in other to attached the starter bar to the dpc.

solistic:
@Abdulwastecx, great and nice work. Please can you remember the total quantities(tonnes) of reinforcement you finally used? I take it that you used more than below. Please confirm. Also did you use local rods or Tiger TMT? Many thanks.

We use Tiger.
I think we bought more Y12 for the slab but I can't pull out the number right now, I will check the list and get back. Thanks

We now have our dedicated
1. Roof department where we help you design and build your roof at a very affordable price.
2. We have a plastering department and external work design where we help give your building a new uplifts

We work round all the states of the federation

diordaves:
Superb job with good attention to details. Well done

Thank you sir

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Ongoing window fabrication work
Window type : casement
Profile type : tower aluminium
Glass type : 5mm grey reflective glass
Window type
Type A 2400 x 1500
Type B 2100 x 1500
Type C 1500 x 1500
Type D 600 x 900
Type E 1500 x 1200
Type F 1200 x 1800 ( fixed light)
Type G 600 x 1800
Type H 600 x 600

More updated from plastering work

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For the external walla our mixed ratio will be 1:5
One bag of cement to 10 head pan of plaster sand

We start off by gauging our plastering to get a plumb wall, a square room and a tidy finish.

We have our crew members on site
6 mason
6 labourer
1 carpenter

And the harney team supervisor

1. Making of sub frames for doors
2. Aluminum windows
3. Burglary proof
4. External design works
5. Fence light piping work, fence coping and plastering of fence
6. Making of our precast soakaway/septic tank
7. Completion of our security house and other miscellaneous work

We have resumed back to work at this our isheri opic site. Lots of work has been going on for the past 1month and we want to share it our nairaland community.

kelly27:
Good day everyone, please I need help. I'm seriously questioning the quotation given to me by my engineer. He was the one that got the building to this stage. I asked for roofing wood work quotation (without roofing sheets yet), I was given a bill of over 700k with labour inclusive at 350k.

Please the experts should help me scrutinise this. I think it's outrageous especially the labour cost.

What do you think is the appropriate bill for this project?

I will appreciate as many responses as possible. Thanks

The materials is under quoted while the workmanship is inflated.
By merely looking at the drawing you will need between 25 to 30 fascia for the building

kopell:
Abdul is these your CORED exam or licences acceptable to practice world wide? Or Can it be reevaluate as what we called PE here that is acceptable world wide.

I don't think so sir, since our system here is not that well recognized world wide

EgunMogaji:
Question for you Sir (if you have time to answer as I know that you're a busy professional), do Nigerians have to sit for an exam before they can call themselves Engineer?

Thanks.

Yes sir, you have to sit for the COREN exam

bixton:
I guess you did not get my drift.

Regarding the bold, I guess you took the line from the write up "the engineering family or team: who are they" by Uzochukwu Mike. The source of that quote is unknown with no backing reference and so i'll take it as his own assumption.

The assigning of percentages to the respective professions based on theory and practical is another assumption also. There's no authority that confirms that.
It is known that engineering graduates have more to do with theory and less practical but it does not translate to that 75/25. Another can say 60/40. And to say the technologists have a 50/50............
Artisans you say are 100 on practical and you skipped that for technicians.
Can we rightly say that these guys do not have the ability to conceptualize?

Well the respective professions have a running curriculum and the various accredited institutions stick to it as best as they can.

There is always a form of synergy amongst these set of professionals in any work place to achieving success on any particular project.

Be that as it may be it will out of a complex situation for a technologist/technician/craftsmen(artisans) to consider them selves as an engineer though any of the aforementioned can use that title based on some upgrade or as a title based on his company's structure and needs.

The link below shows the respective titles and qualifications:
http://toscanyacademy.com/blog/nigeria-education/how-to-become-a-registered-nigerian-engineer

I think that line you quoted is a common knowledge among engineering graduates, there is a course in the university called Engineering in society ( It is a 200L course in the university, you will see all the details about the engineering family there)

Percentages are assigned based on the engineering curriculum, you can also look that up

I didn't skip that of the technicians, it is right there in my comment above you can look it up

They don't have the ability to conceptualize ideas, they will need to be trained to do so. You just don't wake up one day and start to design a reinforced concrete foundation like pile or raft, you need to be equipped to do so and the only recognized program that will equip you are the civil engineering program such as engineering geology, foundation engineering, and advanced reinforced concrete design/ You will need to get an engineering degree from a university to do this

bixton:
......running down of QS as a profession!
......university vs polytechnic graduates!!

What next again?

We still have;
College of education
Monotechnic
Technical college
Etc, etc,etc


All are graduates in different categories but it's not every body who reads that's understands.

The only thing that matters is be good at whatever you're doing wherever you find your self to be.

After all making love requires both the use of the brain and hand.

I don't think so.

The engineering family works like a pyramid where you have a tiny apex and a very wide base.

In the family you have the engineers> the technologies>technicians >artisans. Each of these family members roles is very important and their remuneration should be based on the amount of work put in.

The engineers are trained to be more theoretically oriented because they conceived the ideas and use both mathematically and scientific principle to design them, they required more maths and science to put these ideas into reality hence do more theory than practical but they also need to have practical ideas about what they want to design so they also need a bit of practical. For engineers, it is more like 75% theory and 25% practical.

The technologies work under the engineers and they are required to interpret all the design information produced by the engineer on site, They are also required to have a strong theoretical base and a strong practical base ( it is more like 50% practical to 50% theory)

The technicians work directly under the supervision of the technologies, they are required to put the ideas of the ideas of the designer into actuality, they are required to be very practical in their aproach and to also have some theoritical knowledge in other to understand the engineers design( they are more like 75% practical and 25% theory).

Finally, we have the artisans, these are the people responsible for the actual practical work, they do the actual construction. These group are required to be 100% practical and they are the carpenters, mason, Plumber, electricians of this world.

In summary, all the engineering family are important and there pay should be commensurable to the complexity of work, the risk involved and their demand and supply.

A typical civil engineering work will have: for every one engineer < two technologies < four technicians < eight artisans.

A more complex engineer work will required an engineer with master or doctorate degree to lead them

hilroy:
Yorubas! Yorubas!! Yorubas!! How many times did I call you?

Don't put your mouth in this? Grab your bucket of popcorn and watch the whole drama unfolds. Any Omoluabi that doesn't have popcorn should get in touch with me ASAP for filling up

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The problem is that the common masses out there may not be able to distinguished between the igbos and yorubas (christian yorubas ), everyone should be worried and we should all find a way to stop this violence escalating especially in the North

bixton:
Oga mi.......wetin dey happen? Your people never dey react to your questions oooo. I guess consultations are still on going and all is well.
Happy weekend.

Which question?

bixton:
Oga mi.......wetin dey happen? Your people never dey react to your questions oooo. I guess consultations are still on going and all is well.
Happy weekend.

Which question?

Bede2u:
read my old posts to find out who I am boy. A countries territorial waters is determined by land marks. Hw far into d ocean a country can go is based on their land. Offshore oil in US belongs to US Federal govt and they are reserving it for future exploitation. Read about this and dont presume to knw what u dont knw

It is actually based on the landmass adjacent to the see. A country territorial water is the water body closer to the adjacent landmass of the nation that is the reason why DRC Congo with a very large landmass but small strip of land closer to the see has smaller territorial water than smaller countries like Liberia.

Oil exploration both onshore and offshore should be in the hands of community or states whose land adjacent the see where these oil are been exploit

ayzTIGER:
a yoruba muslim will say something nice in a faceless forum but when he sees his masters up north he will turn immediately and say something different. Why is your fellow sodiq yoruba muslims not in this thread? They are obviously against restructuring

What is your problem self?
Why do you all give the impression that Yoruba Muslim are afraid of Northern Nigeria when the reality is contrary. Yorubas irrespective of their religion always have a different point of view to the core North, religion is not the overriding factors that determine where our loyalty lies, we are YORUBA first before anything