₦airaland Forum

fk001:
Lol suit yourself.


That's a well know fact across Northern Nigeria.

Only the North can't decide the future of the nation.
Nigerian unity is very negotiable, it can be negotiated by all the participating units to form the country

rexwalters:
Of course the black man will always blame someone else,slavery was a business just the same way we sell our raw crude today,we sold ourselves the white man did not force us,open slavery was the biggest business for over 400 years and is still big time today,the United states fought a civil from 1861 - 1865 because of the abolishment of slavery,go and do your research and find out what gave men like Tippu Tip so much wealth,abi you think say na only you done study or live for UK & Yankee?

The partitioning of Africa was done in Berlin in 1888,are you still blaming the white man for the black man's woes?,The Europeans founded The United States and Canada,why are they not like sub saharan Africa,the honest truth is that the black man has a fundamental problem on progression be it in the US,UK or Africa but a thousand times worse in Nigeria.,Africa.

When the British left Nigeria finally in 1963 after we became a republic,electricity was everywhere,why not use their so called black magic to produce electricity today?

When the British left Nigeria in 1960, less than 5% of Nigerians live in urban areas, we don't have any thermal power plant or Hydropower plan. We generate less than 500mega watt of electricity of over 45m people then.

When the colonial master left Nigeria, we only have two railway like built to link the exterior to Lagos port to ease the movement of raw materials only to Great Britain. These lines were built without proper consideration for the movement of people or better communication that will automatically lead to high productivity.

The British experiment was purely exploitative one, they left the country worse than they met it. They lump people with nothing in common without making any effort to unite them, they drew a line on paper with proper consultation of the people living in this geographical entities.

People achieve more with people they share things in common with. The Yoruba nation with a population of 45m people will be one of the most populous nations in western Europe if it were to be an independent country (after Germany, Italy, Spain, and Great Britain )

Aboki99:
You are very correct only that three other fingers point at you and you scored own goal. You think a xtian country (UK) that brought religion to you, clothed thee and civilized you people would gave northern leadets the country for nothing? While the north was civilized and well organised even b4 the white men came calling, you people in the East and parts of the west were moving around stark naked wallahi! You were pagans and barbaric as recently as 1940. Just look for an old Pic of the part of naija u came from and confirm it. Read history man and save yourself the self inflicted insults

What are you saying?
Southwestern Nigeria which includes Yoruba land and old empire has been civilized for ages.
This organized system of government you keep shouting about only came with the Usman dan fodio revolution in the 19th century before then most of the Hausa state was a city-state.

I am Yoruba and I know the history of my people, the old Oyo empire was the largest empire in what we call Nigeria as of 14th century, it was so powerful that we have organized a system of government.

Nigeria is an artificial state with ethnic groups that have nothing in common and there is no such thing as a southerner. The Yorubas of southwestern Nigeria have been building empires, living in organized society for thousands of years before the colonial master

zone51:
When whites attack blacks it is racism - Because it's mostly verbal abuse and not physical

When blacks attack black it is ****phobia - Because It involves taking lives

When Blacks attack white all I see online is show him the black in you - Because you have to let him know you don't take bullshit

So, now left to you to decide what you will do if attacked.

Racism isn't merely verbal, the verbal part of racism is not what people are fighting. Racism is institutional, it is a belief that someone is less than human just because of his skill color.

When you are prosecuted by the institution of the state because of your skin color it is as a result of racism

When you at the bottom of the social ladder of the society because of your skin color that is racism

When you are judged based on the preconceived notion that you can never be intelligent enough to live in a society as equal based on skin color that is racism.

Most Nigerians in this part of the world don't know the extends and gravity of how racism as affected black minority in western world

lilbest4:
who sold them to the Europeans, was it not your ancestors? The moment you start accepting responsibility that's only when you will catch up with other races. Whites didn't know the villages and streets in Africa it was your forefathers that sold your brothers. they were not forcefully taken they were bought

You have read up on slavery my friend. It is too simplistic to say our forebearer sold their brothers into slavery.
Slavery is as old human civilization but it wasn't as cruel as those practices by the white European of the 17/18th century. It was practice on an industrial scale, African slaves were dehumanized using different pseudo-science to make it acceptable.

The slaves were not sold by their family members but captivity of war, the majority of these wars were a result of inter-tribal war instigated by same white European and religion (especially in the north).

dotcodotuk:
Even in other countries, Buhari is an enigma. Only IPob terrorists do not know the value of Buhari. They listen to Nnamdiot Cownoo.

Sai Baba till 2023. Sai Osibanjo till 2031.

The Hausas are a majority in the Niger Republic, that explains Buhari popularity there

D1O:
Do you have any for a 4/5 bedroom semi detached duplex with pent house that would fit on a 100ftx50ft plot?

Yes I do

miracle1997:
Hello..may I have your phone number for WhatsApp

08169492682

We must bind together, put our mutual distrust aside whether Yoruba or igbo, else they would make our generations Muslim.

God forbid!

I don't know why most of you are Islamophobic. Islam is not a problem but poverty and illiteracy together with religious extremism is the problem.

I don't have any problem with an average Igbo or Hausa man but I will be fearful of an extremely illiterate and religious individual of any faith or ethnicity. Poverty+illiteracy+religious extremism +tribalism is a very dangerous combo.

All monotheist religions have a very dangerous doctrine that can make an extremely poor and ignorant individual do bad thing

Shaprara:
In case you don’t know, Fatai was the commissioner of finance for 8years before he became governor and under his leadership Kwara State has risen to one of the best developing state based on the number of IGR generated.
Check the FG index if you are interested

Fatai was a disaster has a governor. No road project, no pipe born water, No serious government investment in rural areas to reduce poverty. apart from one small bridge that has been under construction around Garin Alimi for 2 years, no other major project within Ilorin municipal area.

I just left the city for Abuja today, the city is a mess. Fatai and anything that has any form of alliance with saraki must be uprooted away from Kwara state

puresaint:
This is not news worthy ..... Nairaland should be sieving what dey upload as news.

I just came back from Ilorin today, most people on the ground are highly disappointed in Sasaki and all he stands for. People are really tired of his mismanagement of the state

marvinsync:
calculating per capita GDP is not rocket science
okay

anyone can do it , just divide the GDP of a state by their approximate population and make some little adjustment for inflation that's all



issa simple sturvs

It is called per capita income, not per capita GDP and the list you provided is outdated.

Some southwestern states are generally richer than southeastern states. States like Lagos, Ogun, and Ondo state have better PCI than any states in the southeast.

Kwamecron:
Sticky will buy 75%for himself and 15% for whosoever including obasanjo and fellow thief's and so sure the Nation will only benefit 2% if they say 10%. Thief's

What does the common man benefit from these ventures in the first place?
The government has no business doing business in a country as diverse and corrupt has Nigeria. NNPC is the most corrupt government firm in Nigeria, it is the single largest drain on our resources in Nigeria, billions of dollars are been stolen on yearly basis and the firm adds no value to the economy whatsoever.

A country like Brazil has Petrobras, a fully privatized energy firm that is more efficient and more profitable than NNPC, what we have is a corruption incubator that takes millions of dollars for routine maintenance of refineries, yet we still import refine petroleum product to the tune of $8.2b per annum.

Any serious government will fully privatize NNPC, Ajaokuta, and all other moribund industries

qwertyboss:
We must abandon our differences, because if difference is of any importance Africa will remain a continent of idolatry. The missionaries won't come, neither will the Arabians. And Africa will be a continent of darkness!

How has the imported religion helped Africans?

abbey621:
Another person comparing apples with oranges...lol. By you own admission, you stated past leaders squandered majority of our oil wealth, they failed to develop any meaningful infrastructure. Do you think they didn't know how to do things right? Do you think many of them did not travel abroad and see how things were done? They chose not to! This is the corruption I'm talking about when you use funds meant to develop the economy for private gains, the result is extreme poverty and an economy in total decay. I'm glad you used South Korea as an example, you might want to google how it sentenced its ex-presidents to prison for corruption. Google it and tell me how corruption is not a problem in Nigeria.

I don't need to Google South Korea, I have done an extensive research on all the so-called Asia tigers. SK never started off as a developed country with the institution and know how to prosecute and sentence a former president to jail. In fact, it was very poor and corrupt in the 60s. Most of the work was done in the 70s, 80s to build this institution and industrialized the nation through controlled state enterprise, most of these industries were owned by the ruling elite, at this time corruption was still rife but a majority of the stolen money was reinvested back into the local economy, the reason for my earlier comment about negative and positive corruption.

Institution to prosecute corrupt politicians just don't come overnight, you have to build an environment, economy and society that will build an institution and you need a highly qualified individual to pull this off not some ex-military general that got everything in life through quota system

abbey621:
Nigeria is a shitty nation because of corrupt, greedy leaders. You can continue touting education as the number one priority but we've had a Ph.D. holder fail just as much as an illiterate. If you can't defend this then keep shut!

Corruption is not the problem but ability to build a nation, institution, and economy that will solve the problem of the populace. At the top of my head, I can list 10 more pressing issues than the corruption that you all like to talk about.

Throughout the 58 years of Nigeria existence as an independent nation, we have had the misfortune of been ruled for a majority of this time by clueless people due to the military intervention. We have had leaders that had squandered a majority of our oil wealth to gross incompetence, fail to develop any meaningful infrastructure and diversify the economy.

Most far east Asian nation like South Korea and Taiwan were able to develop because they have competent people in place direct the affairs of the nation. Read about the positive corruption of southeast Asia

abbey621:
You're still missing the point, education is less important than having a politician willing to do the right things, a politician/leader with a big heart and fear of God is what Nigerians need. All these distractions over certificates are just comedy, everyone is corrupt, everything we do is corrupt in this zoo, no damn difference between the educated ones and the illiterate ones. Everyone is mentally enslaved to corruption.

Education is important my friend!!
Nigeria is such a shitty country because of mentality like yours, you need the education to lead a nation, to formulate policies, to chatter a path for a progressive society.

Buhari is one of the most clueless Nigeria president ever because he lacks all the requirement to even lead a local government no to talk of a country has big and diverse as Nigeria. He doesn't understand anything relating to the economy, the rule of law, foreign politics, domestic affairs of the nation and everything you will expect from a leader of a nation.

Democracy will never work in Nigeria because we are too stupid, divided, and preoccupied with religion to pull it off. We just live in a nation where a man with an intellect as worst as a laborer is the president only because of his tribe and religion

Simbrixton:
your comment is the most intelligent I have seen on nairaland having a strong global agenda reduces the influence of bigotry in a nation a lot of Asian nations will not descend to war because of mutual mistrust of the west China has bad blood with Japan but America has tried and failed several times to instigate a conflict this is where Africa should be smarter
We are far behind in terms of development when ambode said other ports should be open most people took it has hatred when nnamdi kanu said the same thing they were happy and started saying it is true if bigotry is too much in the mind it has become a disease
Many nations in todays modern world are ethnically diverse like India and Lebanon two nations I love but what unites Lebanese people is their issues with Israel

My point is nairalanders should not descend to the level of calling each other slaves or Biafra or pigs

You have a valid point, sir.
From my own point of view, opinions on nairaland are a reflection of the deep hatred have for one another as people which is a symptom of an utterly failed nation. Nigeria was designed by the British to fail, no matter how well we try we will all remain a fail nation not because we don't have the capacity as black people to build a first world nation like those of North America, western Europe, or those in far east Asia but because we don't have the platform or foundation to build on.

Nigeria is not a nation and will never be a nation the earlier we all know this and plan how to live together either with each of the major ethnic group operating as a semi-autonomous nation within the commonwealth called Nigeria or we all go our separate ways. The only thing keeping us together is the crude oil of the Niger Delta, no that the oil has solved any of our problems but it has been enough to line the pocket of our corrupt elite and finance all the stupid socialist policies brought by the northern political elites.

I am a Yoruba and I have no problem with igbos residing in any part of Yoruba land but I will gladly welcome an independent southwestern Nigeria, a nation free from the shackles of backwardness, religious intolerance, a progressive nation of over 45m people with common ancestor will be ready to work and progress like all first world nations

Simbrixton:
Let's live and let leave please bigotry no dey bring money guys my understanding of it all is we are all Africans the whites are seriously raping us we need to limit how we compete with each other

Most African wars are ethnically induced what the black man needs is to be smarter

Bigotry may never end but let's fan the flame of peace are

Ethnicity really matters. Most European wars in 18th and early 19th century were ethnically induced, you can't build a nation with people with totally different ideology and way of life, reasons why most African countries are a fail state. These countries were drawn up by the colonial masters without consulting the locals, without paying attention to the cultural makeup of the locals.

If you look closely, western Europe has the highest number of balkanized nations on earth, the most populous western European nation is the German with about 80m people. A country like Belgium with only 11.5m people is still fighting to split based on the ethnicity of the Walloon and Flemish, the same thing in Spain with Catalonia. It is really not a black man thing but humanity generally achieve more with people they share lots of things in common with.

FriendNG:
Ameoba you are still referring to me your master.


Come and lick my foot. Because that is your position as a slave to Aboki

Funny dude, who is the slave here?

Ashley86400:
Turks are NOT Arabs. They only share religion and a tiny part of their culture with Arabs, gotten through religion.
Genetically speaking, they share the same gene pool with the Greeks and celtics. Many Turkish people have blond hair and coloured eyes.
They have their own language (Turkish). The Turkish President's name is Erdogan. .Germany's Gundogan is also Turkish. These names are not Arabic.
Not every country in the middle east is an "Arab" country.
Not Arabs countries- Turkey, Israel, Iran (former Persia) ,Afghanistan. These countries all have their own languages and culture which are completely different from Arabic. They only speak Arabic because of the religion spread to their countries to them.

Arabs countries - Jordan, Palestine, Syria, Lebanon, Morocco, Mauritania, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, Sudan, Somalia, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Oman, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, the Comoros Islands, Iraq, Djibouti, and the United Arab Emirates.

Pakistan (are basically Indian) ,Lebanese are considered Arabs, but history wise they are Phoenicians. . .

Most of North Africa and the Horn of Africa in the list are not really Arabs. Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria and Mauritania are Arabized barbers and turrek majority nation while Sudan and Somalia are arabized black African nation

Hotfreezer:
Oil magnate not magnet.
Turkish nationals aren't retarded as Oyinbos, they are Arabs.

Thank me later.

Turkish are not Arab despite being a majority Muslim country. Turkish are Turks, a southern European group.

deomelo:
Minister of Power, Works & Housing, Mr Babatunde Fashola, SAN during the inspection of the Urban Shelter Limited Affordable Housing in Kubwa, Abuja

Oga this one na Urban shelter property o. This is a privately own estate sir

Tundeobama:
Any muslim in ekiti is migrants from ilorin kogi osun and oyo.
Ekiti and ondo is full xtian state.

I am a Muslim from Ondo state and I'm not an immigrant. There is a sizeable number of Muslim of Akoko area in Ondo state.

Nowenuse:
Religion will not be useless in much of the north.

Hausa fulanis know or think Buhari is a better muslim who is heavily pro-Arewa.
Northern Christians know Atiku is more of a liberal muslim and will definitely be a better leader to them.

Liberal northern muslims like those of Kogi, Kwara and to an extent Niger & Nasarawa are the only ones I can really say religion is useless to here.

This man is always on top of his game, you really know the region thoroughly.

People will be shocked with how the election will pan out, the only saving grace for Buhari in the north-west and Nigeria is the way people have him to a defender of Islam in the region.

People don't know that the Northwest and east is home to millions of liberal Muslim, those whose means of livelihood has been affected greatly by Buhari poor economic performance, these set of people will happily vote for atiku .
My projection will be Atiku/Buhari
Northwest 35/65
Northeast 45/55
Northcentral 60/40
Southwest 55/45
Southeast 85/15
South-south 75/25

BabaIbo:
naso you go dey nairaland dey form sey you know wetin you no know. make I no just fall your hand by asking you easy questions about lakwe

You're the Joker here, do you know there are estates in lakwe, or you think you will use the price of an estate houses in suleja against the price of face me I face you or make-me-self-follow-my-people-get-house type of houses

Now I see you lack understanding and I shouldn't have bothered dragging this topic with you in the first place, it seems the other guy understands what I'm saying, you need to grow up cos it will help you...

Let me break my point down to your level cos I see you have problem understanding things,
A 3 bedrooms flat in a fine environment and well furnished house in lakwe/Okoko is more expensive than the same 3 bedrooms flat with the same/similar quality suleja.

Mumu, so you want to compare a normal/low standard and poorly furnished/old/dilapidated rooms occupied by students, volksworkers etc in Okoko to a high standard rooms in in suleja.

If you are wise you should have known that in Okoko or lakwe, that you can get a 3-bedrooms flat for as high as 800k or more and as low as 200k depending on the quality. now compare a well furnished house price in lakwe with that of a well furnished house in suleja, not comparing a dilapidated rooms price in lakwe/Okoko with that of a high-quality/well furnished rooms in suleja. can you now see you lack comprehension/understanding

It is laughable to compare the cost of houses in the two area. I have worked and both Lagos and Abuja and I can categorically say that Suleja is much cheaper and safer to live than most places in Lagos.

The moat expensive 2 to 3 bedroom flat you will see in GRA in Suleja with uninterrupted water supply, big yard, and cool environment is N350 to N400k. The same house in a similar location with a similar amenities will cost almost a million in Lagoa

Look at this beautiful low budget low pitch roof work just completed Suleja Niger state

If you have a similar project you can contact us for the free quote and roof design, we can also help you get the materials at market rate, anywhere in Nigeria

We are starting off with this lovely semi-detached two units of 2 bedroom flat @ Anambra.

drizzle25:
@ rottmy. Let us run this case scenario. You are single and you work with the government.
I
In suleja self contain is 80,000/ annum .
Transport to berger/ town- 250
To and fro- #500.
22 working days-#11,000
I year- #132,000 ( transport)
Total- #212,000

Another case
Say gisiri.(nicon junction
Self contain #130,000
T.p to work -150
To and fro - #300
22 working days- #6,600
I year- #79,200
Total- #209,200

You will pay more by living @ suleja the transport costs creep gradually, hence you mite not notice.
(did they tell you its over 40km from berger.) .

Some of these villages in Abuja are really terrible, I will never advice anyone to live in them.

Any accommodation below N300k in the actual city center is actually a death trap and will moat likely going to be in a huge ghetto.

Rottymy:
Thank you for your point. but how far is Suleja to Gwagwalada?

Not that really far, if you are driving, more like 30minutes

Suleja is a nice to live but you have to choose your area very well.
I will advise anyone coming down here to look out for the following area
1. Low-cost GRA Suleiman barrau way
2. Back of Sarafina
3. APC quarters
5 Low-cost Kwamba
6. B division
7. Back of begger paint

In some of these areas, you will have access to all the basic infrastructure like road, pipe-borne and relatively stable electricity
You will need to have a car because there is no mass transportation system in place, unless if you are comfortable with comfortable with a motorcycle.

Food is cheap, accommodation is affordable, good schools are relatively affordable and if you are male, you will find a lot of crazy football lover to hang out with during the weekends

Places to avoid are the old section of the town dominated by the core Northerners because we have lots of uneducated, drug abuser youth in these areas.

You will definitely enjoy your stay here