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It has to come from the yeast. A highly pretentious people who claim holier than thou on Nairaland at day time and turn to sth else by sunset.

You are spewing sentiments. I talk facts and figures, while you talk sentiments. In all the countries you mentioned who sponsors the insurgents or terrorists,?Your xtian America! Go to youtube and see how America created ISIS and Taliban? Go and read and research bro.

SegFault:
Peaceful kwa, bro the nonsense I saw in Pakistan, Egypt, Syria, Iraq and is that peace. In Pakistan your fellow Muslim brothers force people to convert, is that one peaceful. Mtchhheeeew. Call a spade a spade for once in your life, I even remember a Muslim that was complaining about that on YouTube.

This is not true because the bible is the most violent book on the face of the earth. No book takes that away from the bible. The Quran does not allow violence except for self defence or retaliation. Read the history of all islamic wars.

Plus, colonialism was violent, yet becoz you have been brainwashed by the West you never acknowledge that. Even the contemporary west engages in jihad to spread democracy in Iraq and other places yet you do not see this as anything because you are brainwashed by the western media. Continue to deceive ur self.
But I must tell you that islam is a peaceful (not a pacifist ) religion and over 1.6 billion of us enjoy it and no amount of propaganda will move us.

SegFault:
I am not saying that Christianity is not violent, I am saying that Islam is just as violent as Christianity. Simple.

Your fellow xtian fundamentalists George W Bush said God asked him to invade Afghanistan and iraq. Millions of muslims have been killed by this terrorist act. The Lord resistance army in Uganda commit horrendous acts of terror there, above all, what the Christian crusaders did to muslims and jews in Jerusalem is unmatched in its savagery, wickedness, callousness and fearlessness.

It is because you are ignorant of ancient and contemporary history that you are writing what you are. Read the church history and you'll never have the audacity to condemn any religion.

wizzakosh:
[s][/s]Same old junks. Going inside Bible is if no use to me.

Show me anywhere in the world that Christians are killing and jailing people for insulting Jesus like you alliens do for your late Mohamad.

I don't need story. I don't have to go into your so called Qur'an to proof trash. We see that on a daily basis.

Here goes the reference. If you can't read your bible but depend on what your pastopreneurs cherry pick and spoon-feed you on sundays, we will read it for you.

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1 Samuel 15:1-9
King James Version
15 Samuel also said unto Saul, The Lord sent me to anoint thee to be king over his people, over Israel: now therefore hearken thou unto the voice of the words of the Lord.

2 Thus saith the Lord of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.

3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

4 And Saul gathered the people together, and numbered them in Telaim, two hundred thousand footmen, and ten thousand men of Judah.

5 And Saul came to a city of Amalek, and laid wait in the valley.

6 And Saul said unto the Kenites, Go, depart, get you down from among the Amalekites, lest I destroy you with them: for ye shewed kindness to all the children of Israel, when they came up out of Egypt. So the Kenites departed from among the Amalekites.

7 And Saul smote the Amalekites from Havilah until thou comest to Shur, that is over against Egypt.

8 And he took Agag the king of the Amalekites alive, and utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword.

9 But Saul and the people spared Agag, and the best of the sheep, and of the oxen, and of the fatlings, and the lambs, and all that was good, and would not utterly destroy them: but every thing that was vile and refuse, that they destroyed utterly.

SegFault:
This is an obvious lie.

1 Samuel 15:1-9
King James Version
15 Samuel also said unto Saul, The Lord sent me to anoint thee to be king over his people, over Israel: now therefore hearken thou unto the voice of the words of the Lord.

2 Thus saith the Lord of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.

3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

4 And Saul gathered the people together, and numbered them in Telaim, two hundred thousand footmen, and ten thousand men of Judah.

5 And Saul came to a city of Amalek, and laid wait in the valley.

6 And Saul said unto the Kenites, Go, depart, get you down from among the Amalekites, lest I destroy you with them: for ye shewed kindness to all the children of Israel, when they came up out of Egypt. So the Kenites departed from among the Amalekites.

7 And Saul smote the Amalekites from Havilah until thou comest to Shur, that is over against Egypt.

8 And he took Agag the king of the Amalekites alive, and utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword.

9 But Saul and the people spared Agag, and the best of the sheep, and of the oxen, and of the fatlings, and the lambs, and all that was good, and would not utterly destroy them: but every thing that was vile and refuse, that they destroyed utterly.

wizzakosh:
Show me where all that are being done.

Islam is fucking evil and occultic religion. Fact .

If you are of the religion whose God orders the total annihilation of the Amalekites including women, children, the aged, infants, ox, donkeys and "everything that has life/breethes" then you have no moral authority whatsoever to condemn Islam: a religion that is by far, by far more peaceful scriptural and historically than xtianity.


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wizzakosh:
Religion of peace indeed.

When the former Attorney General enacted the Law unilaterally where were you people?

Goldencheese:
APC Next Level = Upturn everything sane and replace it with hurried, miscalculated, poorly thought out and sectionalistic solutions. Three more years to go.

See my siggy.

Because thinks independently without the sentiments and indoctrination you have been brought up with! Is what Prof is saying right or wrong? Are only xtians being killed or not? Do bandits and boko haram differentiate or profile their victims according to their Faith's or not? In your conscience you know the true answers to these questions but hate hatred and sentiment wont allow you to side with the truth. Yet with this u even have the gall to call urself a xtian when you murder truth that ur bible advises you to seek for in order to be free.

olawalepopoola:
This guy isn't normal at all

If you are a muslim, b4 sleeping recite the following:
1. Ayat kursiyu 3x
2. Qulhuwallahu 3x
3. Qula uzu but rabbil nasi and falaq 3x each.
4. Bismillahil Lazi la yadurru ma a ismihiy shai un fir ardi wala fis sama'i wa huwas samiul aleem. 3x

Nothing, I repeat NOTHING on this earth that crawls or walk on one, two, three, four, five and more can harm u. I repeat nothing ooo!

Penflame:
Early this month, unknown thief/thieves entered my room through the window late in the night and stole phones, device and laptop totally worth 132,000 naira.

My greatest surprise was I didn't or was unable to wake up throughout their operation until day break, and I'm someone that easily wake up from sleep at hearing slight sound or noticing slight movement.

Is it that there's a charm they do use for this kind of operation? If yes, how can it been neutralized to prevent such occurrence next time?

In what way can I apprehend this thieves? I've been unable to track the items.

Someone should please give me advice and suggestion.

Help move to front Page biko.

That doesn't change the fact that it is the most violent book on the face of the earth! And that it's a bundle of contradictions.

Baawahala:
The Bible is beyond you

It was George W Bush, a fundamentalist Christian like you that is the cause of all of this, but because you and your ilk have not gotten a head for independent thinking you'll never see this undiluted fact.

The way you people are being rainwashed by the Western media is a cause for concern.

By the way, the last time I checked it is the bible that is the most violent book any world religion has ever had. Have you read about the destruction of the Amalekites by your peaceful Biblical God? Or have u bothered to know that your own peaceful prophet said " I am not come to bring peace but a sword". Charity begins at home, attend to the violent verses in the bible and the historical violence of xtians like the crusade, the invasion of Afghanistan and iraq by ur brethren first!

baliyubla:
The religion of Piss and their fighting for an imaginary god again.

Read, read and read. And by reading I don't mean reading Nairaland. Read books.

Commonsense99:
If he was that peaceful, how did he manage to pass on this doctrine of violence to you folks? Or ain't you following his footsteps?


Emacipate yourself from mental slavery dude, stop feeling inferior.
Why not try to reverse the scenario, preach your ancestors peganism to those Arabians in middle lets see how they will accept it and perhaps get ready to kill themselves because of a fvcking Africans religion? ..
sayings that isreal did not exist until 1948 means you know nothing about history.. Religious Sentiments have beclouded your judgement.. Don't quote me again, Am Outta here.

Clearly you have never read a single text about the biography of the prophet of Islam. If you had, you have never, even in your wildest of dreams, Associate him with racism. In fact if you had, you would have posited that he himself wouldn't have cared if anyone insulted him. Well many did to his face and he forgave them. Read read and read to be free by knowing the truth.

Commonsense99:

Why not denounce Islam totally and have his freedom and peace of mind? This is 2020 for God's sake, peeps should stop allowing themselves to be emotionally blackmailed by some 12th century backward religion.
If that their Prophet was alive today , he still would have been a racist against Nigerians.. And here some are prepared to kill for his sake.

Crimes has no tribe nor religion, bigot! Just yesterday Nairaland reported that 38 year old PETER SUNDAY ETIM of Ikot Ofon Ikono, Uyo, Akwa Ibom State defiled his 1 year old daughter. What say thou on this? Or is it because Peter's sins have been wiped off by someone dying on the cross for him that you do not see anything wrong with this? Follow this link, read about Peter's heinous crimes b4 being tribal and sectional on your comment!

https://www.nairaland.com/6085291/38-year-old-dad-defiles-4-year-old-daughter/1#93361590

adecz:
Immediately I saw this headline,
I knew it had to be from the north.


These types of perversions are reported
daily, but Shari'a ignores it.

When it comes to so-called blasphemy,
all of them go dey shout allakbar!!


If you investigate further, you will find
that the victims are Hausa kids while the
perpetrator is Fulani, so, nothing will
happen to him, since Hausa are slaves
to Fulani.


Nonsense!!

What is the difference between you and terrorists George W Bush an d Tonny Blair or Crusaders. The most terrorist Scripture is your own which orders the killing of the Amalekites with their infants or babies men and women, ox and donkeys and everything that has life. Whose prophet or master do you think said " I am not come to bring peace but a sword"? Scripturally, the most violent book is the Bible, this fact you should know if only you read! And Christianity is the father and mother of terrorism. Have you bothered to read the history of the unspeakable atrocities the crusaders committed in Jerusalem against muslims and jews? Have you bothered to know the untold wickedness the Christian Lord Resistence Army wrought in Uganda? Have you bothered to know the unimaginable terrorism Christian colonialist did in Africa and Asia and Latin America? When it comes to terrorism, you don't have a single moral leg stand upon! You think everyone is ignorant like you? Read history esp that of the church, young man!

dokyOloye:
What is the difference b/w you and boko haram?
None!

You have said the truth especially that truth which the avg Southern xtian or brainwashed muslims don't know.
To us our prophet is more than our papa and mama. One can't insult him and expect us to clap for him in the name of freedom.

No northern politician born of a woman can go against our beloved prophet and expect us to forget for the next 1billion years. We can forget and even forgive anything one does to us, but not a thing done to our Lord, Allah, our book, the Quran or our Beloved Prophet (saw)

izzou:


[color=royalblue]There's no influential Muslim living, especially from the North that will speak against this.

As much as we feel this is an extreme use and abuse of power, the young man involved should also have respected people's beliefs.
If you don't believe in Mohammed, why not look the other way and respect other people?

He is most likely going to be killed, and nothing would happen, because this is Nigeria

I feel for him sha [/color]

Peter was perhaps one of those here on Nairaraland condemning Emir Sanusi for marrying an 18 year old yet he was there committing the most wicked act with his own 1 yr old daughter. Hypocrites!

From outside or an outsider, it is true that Islam looks complicated. Talk of the years of stereotypes, blackmail and what nots by the media!

From those of us within bro, islam is the most simplest religion to do. It is a source of happiness, peace of mind, solace, contentment, tranquility of the heart and whatnot for us.

If islam is as complicated and terrible as outsiders claim, you think over 1.6b of us would remain in it? Search in the Yotube for Joram van Klavaren, Lauren Booth, Yvonne Ridley, Anthony Green, Prof Jefry Lang, and Yusuf Estes for an honest, unbiased account of the religion we practice.

I do understand and in fact appreciate the fear of those outside islam like you. It is normal and rational for human beings to fear the unknown, something they have never ever bothered to investigate or researched on. And yes Muslims or even xtians and their actions are not synonymous. Religions like xtianity and Islam may be perfect but there adherents most DEFINITELY are not. Let's try to know things b4 we rush to condemn them.

Ethanuella:
So you expect a newspaper or other media publication(s) just for denouncement of faith?

Why does YOUR religion always have to make things complicated?

Prove your allegation by supplying evidence if you are truthful.

Ethanuella:
He is an atheist. He renounced Islam a while ago

Can you refer me to the link of the news of him denouncing Islam. Pls do and put me to shame.
And is there anyone cursed besides he who is defrauded by entrepreneurs parading themselves as men of God. One who does not practice what his scriptures preaches becoz he is deceived that once he claims by word of mouth that "a man approved of God" was Lord and "begotten son of..." would make heaven? One who does not have morality or conscience? Who who began to wear cloth as recently as 20th century? One who does what he wants under the pretext that someone had died for his sins?

Enceladus:
You are very delusional sir. So anybody born in Kano is cursed and doomed to a life of suppression ? The guy denounced your faith period or does the law apply to everybody living in Kano including any oyinbos?

There is a blasphemy law in Kano. This guy is a Kano man who allegedly committed blasphemy and was tried and convicted by a competent court of jurisdiction.

What you just said is your personal opinion not backed up by any law. For you to condemn this conviction you have to provide evidence to the contrary. Anything else is ur personal opinion which does not count before the law. You can abuse the north or northerners all you want but you have to agree that there is a blasphemy law in Kano.

You don't just sit down in Aba or Lagos (where petty thieves who might have hurt just a single person are burnt alive ) and start claiming holier than thou. Remove the mountain of dirt in your own eyes b4 hypocritically attempting to complain about the speck in other ppls eyes. Put your house in order first. I am a muslim and I agreed and signed up to the terms that if and whenever I commit blasphemy, death is my punishment. Then who are you to complain for something I voluntarily chose to signed up to which concerns u not. Or do you love me and my life more than I love my self?! Face your front and maintain your lane jare!

SmartProf:
Lord Lugard really dealt with us in 1914 by uniting us with religiously brainwashed mammals. Now look at the cancer we are having to deal with. Meanwhile, I see a whole lot of these rich Muslims & Arabs in Europe flexing & enjoying a liberal society, and I laugh at their hypocrisy. For legal professionals to think along religious lines in a secular society like Nigeria, which has national laws just tells you that based on ideology, they are not so different from Boko Haram extremists..it's just that these northern muslim lawyers don't live & practice law in Sambisa.

No, it is not based on islamic view at all. The islamic view is in fact more lenient for the offender for the processes of that has an elaborate string of procedures with spacious room for maneuvers.

What however do you say about the Southern youths who according to your inference are well oriented about the value of human lives and freedom of speech, when they set petty thieves ablaze. Doesn't this violate the lives and freedom of speech of human beings? The petty thieves you burnt alive and all they have some is offend one person (the property owner).

Bkayyy:
Thanks for your explanation.
I think this death sentence is a bit too gruesome and out dated for this kind of "offence" judging from the way other cultures and civilization see it . As for that of the security of the state, I have reasons to believe that your answers are based from the Islamic point of view, with that I'll say the youths of the affected state and region need serious reorientation on the value of human life and freedom of speech . Wouldn't it be better to exile him if seeing him will be too much of a burden for the Islamic people of kano?

That means you don't know Kano and its demographics. Describe for me the location of Yan kana and Kuntau so I'll know u know Kano.


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It is not a question of whether I agree with it or not. For me it is a question of what islam says. The punishment for blasphemy in islam is nuanced and not stated in the quran. Scholars have differed for centuries over what should be done to a MUSLIM who blasphemes publicly against the prophet. Muslims can take any of the scholarly opinions and still be right depending on the conditions and circumstances and the time and space etc. So if Kano has adopted the scholarly opinion that those (muslims, mark you) who blasphemes should be killed, I who takes a different view cannot condemn them. My mind sides with the other scholars.

LegendHero:
As a Northerner, do you agree with this judgement?

Do you think death should be the portion of anyone that abuse Mohammed (SAW)?

Thank you bro for asking the question and I'll try and attempt to answer your good question.

1. HOW BLASPHEMY AFFECTS THE SECURITY OF A STATE(KANO)

Kano has a population of around 10m over 99% of which believe in islam and prophet Muhammad (pbuh).
If the personality of the prophet who's revered and venerated by about 10m of these ppl is desecrated, disparaged or maligned, peoples anger is likely to be aroused and this directly can affect public peace and security. For eg some miscreants may decide to take the law into their own hands and in the process charlatans may seize the opportunity to unleash violence in the state and esp on innocent so called non indigenous groups who had born the brunt of similar mayhem in the past, as thugs cashed in by looting their investments and even desecrating their lives. This is how blasphemy affects the security of a state, Sir.


2. HOW BLASPHEMY AFFECTS THE SECURITY OF A NATION.

When violence sparked by thugs breaks in Kano, these thugs often storm in to Sabon gari, a quarter mostly inhabited by "non-indigines" and start a looting spree, this is regardless of whether these "non-indigines" are involved with the first trigger or not, and start killing innocent people. This is often done by unemployed and happy go lucky thugs who abound in Kano agaonst the wish and judgement of the majority peaceful ppl of Kano who though are the fathers and mothers and sisters and brothers of these thugs lack control over them. As sabin gari and other areas flares up, reprisal attacks elsewhere in other states erupts and the nation suffers for it.
Also people who come to Kano from elsewhere for legitimate biz have their schedules abruptly disrupted and this affects their means of livelihood. This affects their own personal economic and social security which also affects that of the nation. The nation sir is the sum total of the individual parts. This is how blasphemy affects the security of a nation Sir.

God bless you and I hope I have attempted to answer your question Sir.

Bkayyy:
Looking at his first reported speech ; He said, “What happened is so important to the state and to the
security of the state and the nation in general. What the Court did is
absolutely right. And we support it completely. Such kind of
irresponsible act, if not because of the state power, nobody could
know what would happen in the future,” he said.


Can somebody explain to me how "Blasphemy" affect the security of a state or nation in general?

This is your hero! He also recently demolished a mosque

SLAP44:
Obasanjo and Wike were not accused of being front like Boko haram commanders.

They're my brother, because the NBA of all association has proven el rufai guilty before trial!

GboyegaD:
Even the learned ones are playing the religious card. I don't see a greater Nigeria until we stop the religious presence and focus on hardworking and national unity.

Who is hunger killing?

Azmanaty:
U own Nigeria yet hunger and disease is killing u in quantum?? Sorry for ur life
The joke is on you

Mind your language!

plessis:
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I don't converse with terrorists and worshippers of the paedophile you call prophet.

Yes, we own it, so what? We own Nigeria! We possess it! We have it! You think na only you have monopoly of sentiments? Have you been to the North or Southern Kaduna to know its dynamics enough to pass judgement on disputing parties from your beer parlour in Onitcha or Lagos or wheresoever!

nairalandankrah:
Look at them Fulanis!!...smh!!!
They think they own Nigeria

But the NBA that sanctioned El Rufai without any fair hearing is

moderate,

Saintly and


Godly?

Do you have a conscience?

Charmingrascal:
Extremists



Fanatics



Terrorists