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elated177:
Ndo o! Sorry o! Cheering who on? I didn't know I was in any competition that required "cheering on."

Dude, go through my threads. The young man who asked this question before you knows very well that both of us have gone through such episode before. I am not here to seek your approval or commendation.


From your reaction, it appears you approve of homosexuality?

elated177:
Check my other threads for the answer you seek.
If you think I am going into that issue here, you are badly mistaken.


Point out the flaw in my postulation.

elated177:
What are you talking about? Did you go through all the pages of the thread?

There is no dwarfing of intelligence. Forget this futile attempt at emotional blackmail.

elated177:
Any discussion with you in this regard is a waste of energy and time. We have done this before. Besides, I owe you nothing.

Bodydiialect57:
As you have desired, l pray grace be given you for a better relationship, first with God and then men.

Oyinlade07:
Pele oo analyst.. U know nothing about prophecy.. Prophecy means saying the mind of God. Have you forgotten that the bible tells you the secret of the Lord is with the Prophet and for those who fear him...U that you can analyse did you see corona happening this year..Did you ever see Nigeria postponing the 2019 election??If you need prove for 2020 prophecy I will try to contact him to send the video clip to me so that I will post it here..Note we always do our anointing service 2nd or 3rd week on December.

Bodydiialect57:
Are you standing on it?

donbachi:
2 kings 2;19.

donbachi:
Atimes,evil forces and sins.acts as obstacles to prophecies.

MuttleyLaff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDUlgtncoSA 2020

GOVERNMENT2:
ACEHART JOIN THE CONVERSATION PLEASE, A MONOTHEISTIC IGBO GUY IS HERE TO TELL YOU GUYS THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH.

YES YOU CAN BE A CHRISTIAN WITHOUT ASSOCIATING PARTNERS WITH GOD, IT IS THE GREATEST OF ALL SIN

Not all charitoō is given by God( humans give favor to other humans) and not all charitoō is unmerited ( eg Joseph found favour in the eyes of Potiphar). The choice of “grace” is not just a perspective i have taken, it's part of the consistent theme of the Bible, atleast when it comes to God and His dealings with humanity.( Personally, I don't really use the word "unmerited favour" as It's one of those words that have been over Christianised over the years and can give modern readers a different mental picture. A better way of understanding the motif is to think of it as "God is always way more generous than people deserve". Simply "favor" or "grace" is more of a better translation).
As I mentioned in my earlier post the word charitoō though used only twice in the NT, it's Hebrew equivalent ḥên is used quite alot in the old testament and also the exact statement "to find favour in the eyes of someone" is a standard Hebrew saying, so it's a word and concept that is well accounted for and we'll understood.
The root word "charis" itself is also usually translated as grace, kindness, loving-kindness etc. It also says nothing about the character of the person it's being bestowed upon if no other information is given but only the attitude of the person doing the bestowing.

This verse is talking about a husband's praise to his wife sir(Prov 31:28).

My good sir, I'm not trying to tear down your write-up as I largely agree with a number of things you said. Just wanted to point out a thing or two in your methodology and conclusions.

SocialJustice:
Abeg shift.

SLIMSNAZZY:
Brother thanks for the text, but you won't tell us that Mary wasn't a dinner sinner, the Bible says that all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. So she was favour and her faith plays important role there.

Hi,

We usually make a significant error when the word “sinner” is only seen from only one perspective. I’d like to use the Cross of Calvary as the reference point: all are counted as sinners before coming to the Cross; but after the Cross, one is no longer tagged a sinner but a righteous one. No sinner has his disposition towards the gospel; but after they believe, their faith is accounted for as righteousness.

When I said Mary wasn’t a sinner, I used it in respect to her disposition- she believed in God’s gospel and it was accounted to her as righteousness.

chipower:
Acehart, If God forces people to do his will in the way you are putting it, why would some people go to hell?

femi4:
Proverbs 31 referred to a Family woman with husband and kids

That's for attributes of a good wife not Mary. Mary wasn't a wife yet when she was chosen.

Angel Gabriel said it emphatically that she was HIGHLY FAVOURED.

Please stop quoting the Bible wrongly

SocialJustice:
I hate when people like you write long stupid essays when the answers are prophecy, favour and grace. Easy!

Na una dey waste people time for church so.

femi4:
She was only favored. There were many virgins that were godly from the descendants of David at that time

Yes, she was a virgin and also from the lineage of David. Joseph was of the line of David but no virgin from his line was chosen; perhaps they was one or there wasn’t one. If there was one, she was disqualified because concerning one of Joseph’s ancestors, the scriptures shows:

Jechonias (Matthew 1:11-12), called Coniah in Jeremiah 22:24-30, was so evil God cursed him and his descendants, saying, "Write this man down as childless, . . . for none of his descendants shall prosper, sitting on the throne of David, and ruling anymore in Judah" (verse 30). Jeconiah, as his name is spelled in the Old Testament, had children (I Chronicles 3:17), but he was childless insofar as none of his descendants ruled as king over Judah.

[quote]So when you say the lineage of David, being specific would be helpful.

If Jesus was from the lineage of Joseph, then the scriptures would be inconsistent (please see above). If Jesus came through the lineage of Joseph, He would be conceived of a man rather than Holy Ghost.

However, there was another descendant of David in the picture- Mary herself.

Mary's descent from David comes through his son Nathan, not Solomon or one of David's other children (Luke 3:31). To fulfill His promise to establish David's throne forever, God honored Nathan by making him the ancestor of the promised King who would sit on David's throne forever (Luke 1:31-33).

Agbegbaorogboye:
Mary was chosen to bear the saviour for two reasons: her gender and her chastity. Since the fall of man came through the interaction of the serpent with Eve, it became clear that the salvation of man needed to come through same means. Also, note that Eve Was a Virgin as at the time she fell to the serpent. She birthed death at the end of that encounter. So also a Virgin Mary birthed life in Jesus Christ after her encounter with the Angel.

smartkester:
stop using the word preposterous here, it doesn't align with your message. It seems you don't even know the meaning of preposterous. It contradicts everything you wrote

Rolexjerry:
Because she was a virgin

Yes, she was a virgin and also from the lineage of David. Joseph was of the line of David but no virgin from his line was chosen; perhaps they was one or there wasn’t one. If there was one, she was disqualified because concerning one of Joseph’s ancestors, the scriptures shows:

Jechonias (Matthew 1:11-12), called Coniah in Jeremiah 22:24-30, was so evil God cursed him and his descendants, saying, "Write this man down as childless, . . . for none of his descendants shall prosper, sitting on the throne of David, and ruling anymore in Judah" (verse 30). Jeconiah, as his name is spelled in the Old Testament, had children (I Chronicles 3:17), but he was childless insofar as none of his descendants ruled as king over Judah.

[quote]So when you say the lineage of David, being specific would be helpful.

If Jesus was from the lineage of Joseph, then the scriptures would be inconsistent (please see above). If Jesus came through the lineage of Joseph, He would be conceived of a man rather than Holy Ghost.

However, there was another descendant of David in the picture- Mary herself.

Mary's descent from David comes through his son Nathan, not Solomon or one of David's other children (Luke 3:31). To fulfill His promise to establish David's throne forever, God honored Nathan by making him the ancestor of the promised King who would sit on David's throne forever (Luke 1:31-33).

olisaEze:
Well merry Christmas to you too.

jeff1607:
I thought it was because Joseph was from the lineage of David plus Mary being favored

Yes, she was a virgin and also from the lineage of David. Joseph was of the line of David but no virgin from his line was chosen; perhaps they was one or there wasn’t one. If there was one, she was disqualified because concerning one of Joseph’s ancestors, the scriptures shows:

Jechonias (Matthew 1:11-12), called Coniah in Jeremiah 22:24-30, was so evil God cursed him and his descendants, saying, "Write this man down as childless, . . . for none of his descendants shall prosper, sitting on the throne of David, and ruling anymore in Judah" (verse 30). Jeconiah, as his name is spelled in the Old Testament, had children (I Chronicles 3:17), but he was childless insofar as none of his descendants ruled as king over Judah.

So when you say the lineage of David, being specific would be helpful.

ichuka:
if she's not a sinner then why would she need a 'SAVOUR'...
And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour...Luke1:47.

Trustedpro:
She is a virgin And from the linage of David

MuttleyLaff:

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Beremx:
It’s 5k last. Location is Ikotun