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PointB, well done. I love your organisational ability. More grease to your elbows.

"The one cutting path through forest does not see if it is crooked"

Soo true!

@Rhymz,
Quite insightful! I will take out time to read the whole interview later in the day since I'm presently occupied. The fact that he mentioned ANPP in the interview shows that he granted the interview after 1999. Yet Gowon has not issued any rebuttal to the devastating accusation of being responsible for the breakdown of discipline in the army.

I hereby call on mod. OAM4J to lift his leprous fingers off this thread! I don't know why he should continue to hide the comments from Igbo posters with a flimsy excuse that they contributed nothing to the debate except insults while giving Ileke idi, CyberG, Dayokanu, and a host of them free hand to dish out insults on Igbo posters without contributing meaningfully to the debate.

Ol boy, the level of energy Katsumoto puts into his lies and revisionism is amazing. The fact that I could not readily present proof to back up my assertion does not mean that the proof does not exist.

Get rid of the finger that could lead them to hell. That's way too insulting to Stephanie.

T9ksy: Geez! Don't you guys ever get fed up of peddling falsehoods? I had this argument with Dede many many

moons ago and till date, he hasn't been able to provide proofs to buttress his wide claim that Zik's party won that

election which necessitated the so-called carpet-crossing.

I suppose you can supply us with the election result which proves conclusively, that the NCNC won that election. Can you?

Ofcourse, I will! I may have to travel to my town to search for the proof in the books in our library. I will still come back to this thread with proof, even if it takes me months.

@Katsumoto,
Can u ever present your argument without condescending? Well, I will ignore that inherent trait of yours. This issue has been thrashed many times on this forum, of which u participated in most of those debates. I don't know why u are bent on revisionism. You continue to throw mud at the wall hoping that it sticks. I guess that your stubborn position is borne out of patriotism and loyalty to your tribe. That's why you tend to allow your loyalty to colour your objectivity.

1. Awolowo is a slimy character. He is neither here nor there. His position on sensitive issues is almost always ambiguous. Prior to independence, Zik insisted on unity and stood by it, Sardauna insisted on unity on their own terms and stood by it, Awolowo insisted on the introduction of seccession clause, then waivered.

2. I want to remind you that Awolowo's Action Group came 3rd after the 1959 election. I believe that Zik knows Awolowo's slimy nature more than we do. (Awo proved time and again that he cannot be trusted during his struggle with Akintola) That's why Zik did not consider him worthy in character to go into alliance with him. Even though Awolowo's party came 3rd, he still has an eye on the post of the prime minister in the event of an alliance with Zik's party. Can you imagine how ambitious he can be?

3. Awo engineered the cross-carpeting of Zik's party elected member of yoruba extraction into the Action Group, thereby setting off the dangerous trend of tribalism in Nigerian politics. His action forced Zik to relocated to the east to usurp Eyo Ita's power.

4. Awolowo was tried in the civilian court of law(not millitary tribunal), and found guilty of treasonable felony. Of which he was later jailed. Awo's lawyer has all the time and freedom in the world to argue against the case brought against their client. The propaganda talk of putting Awo behind bar on trumped-up charges is complete bullshyt.

5. Awo wrote a later to Aguiyi Ironsi pleading for clemency, commution of his sentence and presidential pardon. Which was later granted and approved by Ironsi. Though the order was yet to be carried out before his assassination.

6. Ojukwu did not accept the authority of Gowon. Therefore Gowon cannot order Ojukwu to release Awolowo from Calabar prison. Ojukwu released Gowon either as a goodwill gesture or to carry out the order of Ironsi before he died. It's on record that Ojukwu has complete control of all the affairs of eastern region including the millitary, police, custom, prison, etc. Gowon was simply a pawn in the hands of northern officers like Danjuma and Murtala. He could hardly assert his authority on his boys, let alone the eastern region. The owner of the vehicle that conveyed Awolowo back to the west does not change the trajectory of this debate. Therefore I consider it inconsequential. I might ignore your responses at my discretion. But don't misinterprete it as a sign that you defeated me with your superior argument, since I consider this debate a waste of time. I knew quite well that I can't change your well-dug views. So u are free to hold fast to it. Cheers.

Katsumoto: So many ignorant people on NL; even if they are ignorant, using logic can also help in analysing a scenario.

Awo was charged with Treasonable felony in November 1962 and sentenced in September 1963

In March 1966, Awo wrote to Ironsi from prison asking to be released but was ignored by Ironsi. Between January 1966 and July 1966, Ironsi was Head of State and Ojukwu was Governor of the Eastern region.

Gowon was sworn-in in the evening of July 30 1966 but made his announcement as Head of state of August 1st.

Obafemi Awolowo was released from prison on the 8th of August 1966; exactly 1 week after Gowon's ascension. Awo was driven to Ikenne in Murtala Mohamed's car.

On the 8th of August 1966, who was paying the wages of the Warden at the Federal Prison in Calabar? Was it not Gowon? Who was also paying Ojukwu's salary as the Governor of the Eastern region?

Ojukwu wants us to believe that while he was in power with another Igbo as Head of State for 6 months, he could not release Awo from prison but could release Awo from prison exactly one week after a new government, one which he did not recognise, headed by Gowon was formed.

Ojukwu could not have released Awo from prison because he didn't have the powers to do so. He was only being an opportunist when he made that claim.

The Yoruba soldiers released by Ojukwu were released after the war started in 1967 and all stayed in Biafra to fight on the Biafran side.

You've started with your half-truths and misinformations again

Nightshift: Even if we have more financial facilities from Igbo state governments, we don't have enough arable land to equal their production capacity. Besides, how many Ndigbo are willing to work in the farm this days? Are we going to import Somalis to work in our farms? Ever heard about comparative advantage?

Are u for real? If your intention is to crack a joke, then have it at the back of your mind that u cracked a very bland joke. Are u telling us that Deserts and Savannah grasslands are more arable than tropical rainforest? You must have played a terrible form of truancy during your agricultural science class.
Apart from Anambra and Imo which are densely populated. East has vast expanse of land which can be utilized for agricultural purposes. Just travel through Enugu and Ebonyi.
BTW, if there are proper incentives, many youths will consider exploring a career option in farming.

@Nightshift,
Who told you that east cannot produce those farm produce which u mentioned in significant quantity to feed its populace? The reason for the imbalance is that northern farmers has access to low-interest credit scheme which the eastern farmers doesn't have. Therefore northernen farmers can engage in commercial agriculture with little qualms. So their farm produce tends to be cheaper compared to the ones from the east. Therefore the natrural law of economics will take its due course. Cheap farm produce from the north drives the eastern farmers out of the market. If the ground is levelled up, I promise you that eastern farmers will compete favourably with their northern counterpart.

shymex: Middle-belt is and will always be the FOOD BASKET of Nigeria!!

Benue feeds most of you from Lagos, Bayelsa, Enugu, to Sokoto..

Pay homage to these people, and stop making noise about the little food you guys produce in your regions..

Apart from cassava which is produced nationwide, Middle-Belters feed Nigeria!!

You are ignorant mate How can u say that Benue feeds Enugu? Have u been to Ani-nri in Awgu LGA? Senator Ike Ekweremadu senatorial constituency? Have u been to Ebonyi State? It's high u guys get ashamed of your glaring ignorance.

Bought my sim card N11,000 in 2003, only for the price to crash to N7,500 a week later.
The first phone I used was Nokia 3100 which was sent to me by my uncle from UK in the same year

ayobase: Are u being sarcastic or being ......?

Sarcastic? How?

T9ksy: So why the kwashokor during the civil war?

The conventional explanation for hunger and famine during the Biafran war was as a result of blockade. But that explanation on its own is insufficient! Remember that Nigerian fighter planes were bombing farms too. Most of the productive energy of Biafrans were channelled into the prosecution of war project. There is hardly any young men left to engage in active farming due to war distraction. Also, many farmer has to leave their farmland and migrate to other areas as refugees. There is hardly any vehicular movement to distribute the little farm produce of the time. Finally, there is total breakdown of law and order. Biafra was in a state of near-anarchy brought about by the war. So government does not funtion. If you put all these conditions together, you'll then understand why kwashiorker epidemic occured.

Chizolum: The musician we learnt went as far as telling the man who got him the Nokia performance deal to shut up and not talk when he’s talking else he would slap him the way the Mopol treated him.

The bolded got me laughing seriously. This is what we call transferred aggression back in the university.

OMG! This is getting comical. Rochas would have blossomed as a comedian had he explored that career option. Must he be accompanied by camera crew to purchase a corn by the roadside? I don't view this as an act of humility. I simply see it as playing to the gallery

I wonder how those malnourished boko haram boys go fit handle one virgin talk less of 72

paddy_lo: Mark To Northern Leaders: Boko Haram May Break Nigeria

25/06/2012 14:15:00 WRITTEN BY EMMA UCHE, IN UYO
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R-L; PRESIDENT GOODLUCK JONATHAN, PRESIDENT OF THE SENATE, SEN. DAVID MARK, DEPUTY PRESIDENT OF THE SENATE, SEN. IKE EKWEREMADU WHILE BEHIND IS SEN. UDOMA EGBA DURING THE OPENING OF THE SENATE 2012 RETREAT IN UYO, AKWA IBOM STATE. JUNE 25, 2012

… Says Religious Fundamentalism, Not Poverty Responsible For Boko Haram Crisis

UYO, June 25, (THEWILL) - President of the Senate, David Mark on Monday sounded a strong warning to Northern Leaders to check the rising violent activities of the deadly fundamentalists group Boko Haram, saying its activities could lead to the nation’s disintegration.

Mark, who made the remark at the Senate Retreat in Uyo, Akwa Ibom State, also declared that the northern leaders’ code of silence on the issue in the face of the Boko Haram’s continuous violence shows that the leaders are as guilty as the perpetrators of the mayhem.

“If the elders in the North cannot speak out and stop this menace let them tell us. Let them come out and say so boldly, because the belief out there is that some elders know about these people and decide to keep quite. If care is not taking, the way things are going, if the Boko Haram menace is not halted, it can lead to break up of Nigeria. Because there is an extent to which the people can take it,” Mark stated.

Mark, who also debunked often-touted insinuations that poverty is the root cause of the crisis said, “It is all about religious fundamentalism and ideology.

“Poverty is not the cause, otherwise if every poor person decides to carry arms then Nigeria will seize to exist. So if people talk about poverty and hunger as the cause of the Boko Haram menace I say no.”

The Senate President further added that bombing of churches almost every Sunday and killing of innocent Christian worshippers has stretched the patience of the people to the limit; such that the leaders are finding it increasingly difficult to persuade their followers not to seek retaliation. “There is limit to human endurance,” he chipped.

Nonetheless, Mark cautioned Christians on the danger of retaliation saying, that doing so means that they (Boko Haram) have succeeded in achieving their target. “Leave vengeance to God”, he appealed.

“I think it is time we educate the suicide bombers in the North that it is a wrong belief that killing innocent people would automatically take you to heaven where they would inherit 17 virgins. Of course it would be an uphill task for one person to handle 17 virgins,” he contended.

He said religious leaders and preachers should desist from indoctrinating their adherents into suicide bombings, adding that government should think seriously on issuing licenses to preachers as a way of checkmating the evil ones among them.

Mark also called on government to seek international collaboration with its neighbours as well as Western countries on ways to tackle and uproot the Boko Haram sect.

While declaring open the retreat the 2011 Senate Retreat taking place at the Ibom Meridien and Golf Resort, the Senate President attributed the emergence and upsurge of terrorist activities in the country to some “disgruntled and over-ambitious politicians.”

Also addressing senators at the retreat tagged “The National Assembly and National Security: Securing the Future for Development”, President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan noted with sadness that unguarded remarks and statements by ‘do-or-die’ politicians had led to destruction of several lives and properties in the northern parts of the country.

President Jonathan warned such politicians to stop promoting ethnic and religious politics adding that national security should not be sacrificed on the altar of partisan politics.

He called for joint collaboration between the executive, legislature and judiciary arms of government on the need to review and strengthen existing laws on terrorism to reduce the activities of the Sect.

Meanwhile, host governor, Godswill Akpabio while welcoming the participants described the retreat, as a divinely arranged coming at a time Nigeria is experiencing security challenges.

Akpabio said that a strong union between the executive, legislature and Judiciary was capable of solving the Boko Haram problem.

According to the Governor, “the bombs and the killings would not deter the government of President Goodluck Jonathan from delivering on its mandate of transforming the country.”

Source pls. The bolded are full of grammatical errors. It's embarrassing!

Pastor Chris wants an issue which is not so possible considering his wife's age and his questionable fertility. So he quit the union when he can't find what he sought. I will wait to hear this gist in full. Especially the Stephanie's side of the story.

paris10: I dated this pretty damsel years ago. We were so much in love, and I would say yes to everything she asked of me; from money and gifts to cooking and all. Her family were so nice to me as well.

One day her mother called her and suggested that we both should start preparing for marriage since we'd dated for years. Do you know the answer this girl gave her mother?..So sad, she told her mum that I was too nice and would not want to marry me because she would take advantage of me. She said she wanted a man that would handle her roughly and challenge her demands. She got what she wanted folks!

A year later, she got pregnant for this dude working in a bank. The guy refused accepting the baby because he had a family somewhere. The guy was begged by the girl's family to at least show up at the naming ceremony, which he did. And that was all. Two years later, she contacted me and admitted her mistakes. I attended her son's birthday and made love to her once more just to say goodbye.

She's still single as of today... God forgive me for everything.

uihebom: i have watch dis movie too, guess what the part 2 is out.go grab your copy now!!

laff wan kill me die

uihebom you must pay my hospital bill for cracking my ribs

Highly confidential?!
What is it doing here?

shymmex: ACM10 already ran away after being exposed of being pathetic liar..

You fvcking stalker, I just hope you will stop stalking me after today, fvcking homo bandit..

Far from it!
I left to attend to some urgent functions. You must have been surprised by the ease with which I exposed your Brixtonyute id. That explains why u decided to spam this thread with your boring comments.
I also discovered that your IQ is on par withthat of my tenage cousin. So, I don't feel any need to continue in this meaningless back-and-forte exchange with u. At this point, I gotta hit my ignore button on you. I only respond to intelligent comments. I don't feel the need to continue in this IQ-depressing exchanges with you. Have a field day on this thread.

shymmex: This is the link:



This is brixtonyute:



Where did I say I was brixtonyute? So, all the other posters who made complaints are also the same posters, no?

Show me the proof?

You modified your whole comment. You pathological liar!

shymmex: Show me a proof, you faggit... I never edited no comment, and the first time I was ever banned on NL was 2weeks after I registered in Jan, and I didn't even start posting again till march... And I've NEVER been since then, until two weeks ago...

When I got banned two weeks, I had to create SHYMEX, with one M, you inbred insecure bastard... And I told everyone it's the same SHYMMEX..

I see why the average Igbo man's life isn't worth shyte, you bastards are the most annoying dumb fvcks ever... If you and your homo partner were sitting beside me right now, I would have chopped off your heads as well, you bastards...

Show me a proof!!!!

This is your thread that degenerated into tribal fight before Shymmex id was banned.

www.nairaland.com/900383/youre-sick-tired-e-wars-between

shymmex: Show me a proof, you faggit... I never edited no comment, and the first time I was ever banned on NL was 2weeks after I registered in Jan, and I didn't even start posting again till march... And I've NEVER been since then, until two weeks ago...

When I got banned two weeks, I had to create SHYMEX, with one M, you inbred insecure bastard... And I told everyone it's the same SHYMMEX..

I see why the average Igbo man's life isn't worth shyte, you bastards are the most annoying dumb fvcks ever... If you and your homo partner were sitting beside me right now, I would have chopped off your heads as well, you bastards...

Show me a proof!!!!

This is the link to your comment which u later edited to cover your track. The mod that responded to u was Mukina2. Your Shymmex id was banned by the bot after one of the thread u opened with Shymmex id degenerated into ethnic mudslinging.

www.nairaland.com/490918/lets-complaints-here/95#10468931

shymmex: Show me the post where I said I was brixtonyute?? Show me a proof, you silly goats!!

You inbred bastards, insecurity is why your whole tribe almost got wiped off the planet...

When the next war begin, I'll definitely take the role of Adekunle this time around, you annoying dumb fvcks..

shymmex: ^^^^When the fvck did I ever say I was brixtonyute?? The guy prob posted it here because I said I was banned in the politics section, and I protested in another section...

C'mon shut up! You lying scum. You introduced yourself as "This is Shymmex!" using Brixtonyute id. But later edited the comment. You are lucky that OAM4J did not quote you. Fool your fellow cr[i]e[/i]tins not me

shymmex: ^^^^When the fvck did I ever say I was brixtonyute?? The guy prob posted it here because I said I was banned in the politics section, and I protested in another section...

C'mon shut up! You lying scum. You introduced yourself as "This is Shymmex". But later edited the comment. You are lucky that OAM4J did not quote you.