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Ijebulogic: I'm not an expert on schizophrenia but the article reminded me of the type of drug-infused delusional schizophrenic articles a course mate used to write back in University. It really is misleading and not fact based.

Billyonaire: You insult me by talking about drugs, and also insulted Grail Message by sounding convictions you know nothing about. Anyway, I will really love to answer you politely even though I understand you are not a gentleman. No, I do not use drugs - that will be hallucination and although I have read the works of Abdul Sheen on the Grail Message, I do not buy their analysis of the psychic nature of man.

Billyonaire: I said SLEEP PARALYSIS, if you do not know what am talking about, you should please google it. I am not talking about the sleep-wake body clock mechanism. I will not argue about this. Because I spent a lot of dollars to get these discourses and the knowledge is not just out there. I am being generous sharing it on public forum. You can not know much more about Soul than someone who has been on astral projections, soul travel and as seen self as soul and light and travel at light speed across the galaxies. Lets not go there.

Billyonaire: You can say oxides get into the body of the foetus via the placenta, not that oxygen is in the lungs on foetus. You are wrong my friend. The oxides are needed for metabolism and growth and development stages of the foetus. I will not love to argue on this.
The blood has oxygen in it, the oxides in the body comes from oxygen to execute those functions. But I understand that your knowledge of physical sciences is blinding your understanding of ethereal things. You digress a lot and you do not stick to the facts as it relates to abortion. I do not know how kidney and death-row stories relate to the discourse at hand. The air we breath is much more than you understand, and science has limit to where it can take you. For you to dwell on a limited knowledge is to limit your abilities to understand the mysteries of the universe and the scheme of things.

Lord Babs: look, i may not be a good biology student, but i've got my educated guesses and common sense. So, be sincere with me here. That the heart of a fetus beats or its legs kick, is biologically not an indication that the fetus is conscious of its life, but an indication that there is a life. So, don't mix-up things.

Billyonaire: Well, to be frank with you, I am not trying to impress you on my knowledge of the existence of soul. And the message is not evangelical. Scientific proof can be found in medical sciences. The ER Units have their fair share of information about near dead experiences. But lets look at Sleep Paralysis as a case study. I am very sure nearly every human being has experienced sleep paralysis and often think they are either dying or that witches and wizards are 'pressing' them. This is just the stage when the physical body and soul body goes out of alignment, it is the precursor of bilocation and soul travel. During Sleep paralysis, one can sense the environment and hear things but cant move the body, its an indication that, without the body, the physical body cant function. The awareness of the environment is what consciousness is, and its a function of the soul and goes with soul. Without soul, there is no awareness and we are termed dead, the awareness goes with the soul to ether and it takes us to concepts of ghosts etc. Its vast, very vast.

Billyonaire: I made it clear that we need to keep an open mind. Lecture burdens everyone. So let me make it simple. Soul enters a foetus at delivery at first breath of oxygen. And foetus becomes a child. But if for any reason, doctors decide to take the foetus out of the mother's womb, the first port of call is the Oxygenated life-support machine which is actually nothing more than a respiratory aid machine with pure oxygen going into the foetus, nature is purely scientific so I know more science than you actually give me credit for. Whether oxygen is breath naturally by a mature foetus at 9 months or its aided into the lungs at 5 months using life support machine then that foetus is alife and has soul. But abortions are not aided with life support machine, so the foetus are just not alive and has no soul. I hope you understand my explanation.

Billyonaire: I think you are mixing up a lot of things. The brain in its physical form, I know you understand the components of the fore brain, the hind brain and the central part of the brain. You are simply dwelling on the physical part of the brain. Have you pondered on the role of brain as function of the mind ? Although that is like derailing this thread, I can throw some lights on the brain as a function of the mind and its relationship to the soul.

Lord Babs: look, whether you do biology or mamalogy no concern us, logic senior your biology. So, is the foetus ever conscious of its life?

Billyonaire: Good, so we are clear, I am ready to learn from you and I will implore that we keep an open mind so we can address each questions as they come. The tripartite nature of living things are real, both plants and animals. While the physical body is just made up of earth materials, soul is purely ethereal but spirit is energy component of all things both living and non-living. During pregnancy, the foetus shares fluids and major functions with the mother and is indeed much more of an organ of the woman connected via the placenta and getting all vital nutrients through same mode. It is not a separate entity until child birth, soul pervades space, so at child birth, at first breath of oxygen, the air via the longs animates the brain and the 5 chakras of the body which are the tendons of soul to the physical body and put the foetus on life-mode, and the body of the child is jump started just like starting a car, this body will vibrate every 4 seconds until Death as we know it, So in essence, all living things has inner vibrations that keeps it roaring as far as soul resides in there. It is at first breath of air, which contains oxygen that a child becomes different entity from the mom. It is after breath of first breath that someone can be accused of murder if that child is killed. So in essence, if doctors can convince me that the foetus they abort breaths during the abortion then its murder, but in all cases, abortion occurs before such a time that the respiratory organs of the foetus is fully formed, so in essence, no life is lost, cos the foetus was not alive as an independent entity but as an organ of the mother.

*Kails*:
To those who are debating whether or not the soul exists..
please don't kid yourselves. The soul is very real.

[size=18pt]Right now I am typing to you and thinking of each word inside of my head before and as I type them[/size]. I can have conversations with myself and premeditate my actions before doing them (plan).

If someone, some accident, or disease were to kill me..I would no longer have this ability.

People will say "well Kails, your body is made up of organs and muscle, you see THAT is what keeps you alive and allows you to do all of the above"...

WELL to whom it may concern, I could have part of my brain removed and still think. I could have a heart transplant, lung removed, 90% of my entire face could be gone.... I could literally be a torso with just my head attached and so on, so on....but unless that inner breath in me(soul) is still within my body...I am still here. Once THAT is gone...then I am no more.

Think of it as a car with no battery. I could have my timing belts, my gas pedal, my front/tail lights, could have my brake fluid reservoir, my radiator, my alternator etc...but if I don't have my BATTERY to put it all in motion...I would be of no use. I wouldn't be able to serve my purpose.

Don't get me started on emotions and the voids many feel within themselves which further proves the soul exists...And God...**COUGHS**
Because that is for another topic.

Billyonaire: ACM10, You have a thorough knowledge of Biology, I do too and I believe that many Nairalanders have these knowledge of elementary Biology, but basic biology will have little to do with knowledge of Soul, Existence of Soul, Craddle of Soul in living forms and entrance of soul to human vessels. Before I proceed, I need to know if you will be humble and teachable enough, cos to be taught, one has to be sincere and open minded. The concept of soul, entrance of soul to 'things' to become living are not up for debate, its either you know or you dont. I will love to know if to proceed.

Billyonaire: If you do not understand what soul is, and have not even experienced yourself as soul

you will really know nothing about when Soul enters new babies at birth.

Work on your knowledge of soul and abortion will clearly be understood.

There is no life without soul, and there is no soul before natural birth.

Oxygen activates life and infuses soul into human spirit at birth

Abortion is not murder, fullstop!

Billyonaire: Abortion is not murder or manslaughter. Life is not taken during abortion, cos foetus remains an organ and not an independent living soul. Foetus has no soul even at 9 months. Foetus becomes living being, habits soul at first breath of air at birth.

ACM10: With due respect, I disagree with the bolded. It's cool to be pro-choice, but don't denigrate the status of embryos or unborn kids. Foetus is a full-fledged life! Life starts at fertilization. Spe.rm/se.men has haploid chromosome(23X), and ova/egg has haploid chromosome(23X or 23Y). An embryo/foetus has diploid chromosome(46XY or 46XX). Me and you have haploid chromosme. There is no difference between you and foetus, genetically; except variation. The difference is on the extent of development of body's anatomy and physiology. Therefore, only an embryo/foetus fits the definition of life. Mastur.bation and ej.aculation does not fit in the definition of abortion. Though Catholic church is against mas.turbation on the ground that it is a wastage of seed of life. But they have since realised the folly of their position cos millions of spermatozoa dies naturally when the are stored in the tes.tis. On the other hand, women lose hundreds of egg in their lifetime. Nowadays, Catholic church rarely take that stu.pid stance. Pls articulate your stance next time and don't misinform

Red-Light:
well based on the topic.. am not fully an atheist but am not pro-anyreligion

and i think abortion is not killing as some people want us to believe
the foetus doesn't have life and doesn't have a soul yet ... all measure we take everyday to prevent pregnancy are also abortions in disguise ...using comdoms or masturbating, wasting spermm that could lead to pregnancy... their is no much difference from this sperms and the foetus.. both dont have life.. the only difference is that the sperm has developed in woman to foetus while comdoms or sprayed away sperm has being denied the opportunity to develop into foetus which could lead to babies

Shollypopz: If u're trying to compare Nigerian trained doctors to US trained doctors, then u're joking or don't have a clue of what u're talking about.

There is no one Nigerian university among top 3000 in the world!!

Your use of foreign is quite broad though, I mean d reason for d low percentage could as well be from Nigerians trained in countries like Togo.

lol, all na foreign.

Donald Trump said Thursday was a “very,
very sad day” after President Barack Obama
did not meet his noon deadline to release
his college and passport application records
in exchange for $5 million to a charity of
the president’s choosing.
“All the president had to do is give simple
documentation, simple paper, a few pages
and a charity would have gotten $5 million,
or substantially more,” Trump said in a
video posted on his Facebook page.
“Whether it was Wounded Warriors,
whether it was the American Cancer Society,
whether it was even the relatives of the
victims of Beghazi, which I think would be
an appropriate situation, the president
decided that he wouldn’t be doing it.”
Trump made the offer last month in another
video posted on Facebook and Twitter,
while Obama laughed off the offer on an
appearance on “The Tonight Show with Jay
Leno.”
“In fact, just the opposite: He spent millions
of dollars in legal fees to keep his records
secret. There’s a total lack of transparency,”
the mogul added in Thursday’s video.
“Someday, those papers will come out and
people will say, ‘You know what? Donald
Trump was right.’ This is very, very sad day
for the United States of America.”

Abagworo: So one cannot use stripping as a career. It is a career in many countries and source of entertainment too. Who's that PH guy that has not been to okabigs?

agoha_vivi: Is it possible for a man to still have a normal life(sexually) after undergoing a surgery to correct this condition?

ochallo: all you need to do is multiply 14 by 365 to know that the stats are erroneous.

afam4eva: How did they come to this conclusion. I'm not saying it doesn't kill that much men or even more but they should quit throwing stats around.

Dreystar: Does anyone know if excessive water intake as any negative impact on ones health?

Years ago, on a very sunny day, I got dehydrated, and began craving for water, in less than 12hrs, I drank 25Litres of water(I had water in a 25litres keg and it got exhausted within 12hrs )
I kept peeing at intervals and couldn't eat as I was filled.
That very evening, I became dizzy and had to go see my doctor, the doctor insisted I stayed back at the hospital for "observation" though I wasn't given any medication but the doctor said taking excess Water isn't good for me.
But since then, I've not had a reoccurence of such, but I drink water adequately.

Can anyone explain what was wrong with me back then?

Classicalman: I have stayed long enough in Bayelsa to know how they reason. The politicians always lord it over the people as if they are slaves. The people follow them like sheeps and goats and cannot express their views. That is why a Bayelsan LGA chairman for just 3month can erect a 5 star hotel and nobody will say anything to him. Go to YENAGOA, all you see are hotels and other big buildings all owned by political appointees. The Government does any shi.t they want. The people never say or do shi.t. I am not surprised this happened. Who are u to criticize d governor. You can even come out in Rivers and openely criticise Amaechi and nothing will happen. Try it in Bayelsa and see. The people are under perpetual slavery by their so called elected officials.