jln115: Bro Nigeria has no operational frigates, neither do you have any corvettes, your landing ships are like 50 years old,and u also doubt if they are operational.
Nigeria's blue water capability consists out of nns unity, centenary,thunder and okpabana all of which are OPVs.
Look at all those R4 rifles, they look very new... They could have been sold to Lesotho after 94 then used to shoot at the very guys who supplied them, talk about the dog biting the owner... Hehe
I read there's plenty of police deployed in Durban because of some gangster funeral tomorrow. We know how chaotic it gets. The STF could be on the list.
Action is unlikely. Though I'd support a move to magically make that former military chief "disappear".
I was young in the 90s when it happened, the only television footage I remember was a Ratel in Maseru.. Let's do it again but this time we bang bang and make it the shortest war of the 21st century.
Snyder1ZA: SANDF being put on high alert over Lesotho military chief assassination.
Seems trouble in SA's 10th province never ends.
Honestly, Lesotho doesn't need the military.. If you're completely surrounded by SA you're 100% safe unless you think SA is gonna attack you of which your military won't help.
The solution is to dissolve the military, form a border/rural patrol security force then redirect all the personnel to that force.
jln115: Well we have pretty good relations with Botswana on the other hand Botswana and Zimbabwe have a near terrible relationship......I highly doubt that they purchased there SAMs for a SAn threat..........In all honesty we wouldn't even need an Air force to invade Botswana, Gaborone is less than an hour away from our border, will literally just drive there!!
Just the thought of attacking a neighboring state is disgusting..... However we need to annex south Mozambique, we in Mpumalanga need a beachfront
frumentius: Botswana plays very well with others within the SADC military ambit. There is absolutely no reason they should do so politically. I'm a huge fan of their independent ways particularly when the others want to shield anti-democratic behaviours and tendencies. They also have unresolved land issues with Namibia, and a belligerent Zimbabwe which has threatened them when they called out Mugabe. Or are now to ascribe "fear of SA" whenever any of our neighbours acquires self-defence material?
Are you aware that Botswana now fields a more sophisticated SAM system than South Africa? We never bothered funding the Umkhonto ground based SAM because none of our neighbors posed as an eminent threat. So Botswana wouldn't bother unless it somehow feels threatened by a neighbor that has air striking capabilities ie, South Africa.
As for the unresolved land issues, Swaziland has one with South Africa, apparently Mpumalanga, Limpopo and Gauteng belong to them.
No country attached to our borders will wage a war with another without Pretoria's blessings.... and besides, Zim has a crumbling military there won't be attacking anyone not even in the next 2 decades as long as Zano PF is in power (because the economy will keep struggling).
So, theoretically only SA is a risk especially after that Julius Malema threat to invade Botswana when he was with the ANCYL.
frumentius: From the previous SADC exercise in the land of the cousins, Exercise Golfinho. FACTOID: apart from SA, Namibia has hosted more SADC exercises than all the other SADC countries. I keep banging on about this, but some day SADC will have to go the NATO/EU route and start pooling military resources. More integration and dwindling budgets will simply demand it. This is the structure I see: 1) a SADC Naval Atlantic Command comprising SA, Namibia and Angola with Walvis Bay as the HQ; 2) a SADC Naval Indian Command comprising SA, Mozambique, Mauritius, Seychelles, Madagascar and Tanzania with Dar es Salaam as the HQ; 3) a SADC Jungle Warfare School in the DRC; a Desert Warfare School in Namibia; 4) permanent SADC forward bases in Cabinda, DRC, Tanzania and Madagascar; 5) some form of pooled sealift run jointly by the 2 Naval Commands; and some form of pooled heavy airlift basing out of Botswana (oh the tussle whether this should be A400M or IL-76! ). Zimbabwe is hosting the SADC regional peacekeeping training centre, while Botswana has offered 19 hectares of land at Rasesa for a SADC logistics depot. Some at our JOps are unhappy about the choice, preferring Ndola/Kasama in Zambia, mainly for 2 reasons: - proximity to the DRC, which is the main source of instability within the SADC region; and - existing rail links for most SADC countries and the current extension of the runway to 4000m+.
Don't count Botswana in, they don't like that game of playing well with others. Their purchase of SAM systems suggest their fear of being attacked by who else other than South Africa.
. Mr Covert1 and Supremecourt whats your take on this?? This silly North Koreans has dared us openly, do we show them the superiority of our weapons??
what do we use to counter them?
cc tdayof, nemesis4u, giles4
If this was real and they had somehow threatened SA's "impudents". I'd be the first to troll them... In fact, I'll derive much fun as possible from this and see how Kim blah blah reacts.... But since I'm not important in world affairs, I'll keep dreaming