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damosky12: wel wel wel. The life Adam and Eve had was a life beyond d sence realm. That was the Life God meant when He told Adam that when they eat of that fruit they will die (Genesis 2:17). That was the kind of life Jesus reffered to when He said "The thief commeth not but for to kill to steal and to destroy but I am come that ye may have life...." (John 10:10). Ofcus those Jesus were talking to were alive in the sence realm, they were healthy, yet Jesus promissed to give them life.. Wat kinda life do u think He was talking about? Physical life? Obviously not.. That was the SPIRITUAL LIFE. That was the life God referred to when He said eating the fruit will lead to d loss of it.. That was Zoe!! GOD WASNT TALKING ABOUT PHYSICAL LIFE O O O.. He made Man in His own image and likeness (Genesis 1:26) and, Remember, God is Spirit (John 4:24) therefore He created man as a Spirit just like Himself (but gave him a body so that he would be able to leave on earth) having His kind of life (zoe!) in his (Man, Adam's) spirit. When they ate of the tree, they evidently died just as God predicted. They lost that spiritual life and became only physical having only physical life and sences losing all their spiritual life and sences.. That was why their physical eyes were opened and they saw the physical, carnal (their unclothedness) Genesis 3:7. THEY LOST THAT GOD-KIND OF LIFE, THAT SEES NO CARNALITY. Rom 8:7.. They were left to their physical body and sences and no longer spiritual. God meant that "Spiritual" not the "Physical" life. Remember, my God is not a man, Neither is His ways our ways. ISAIAH 55:9.

Look at these yeye christians. So now it's no longer about how many years are in your god's days but actually that he was not making sense at all when speaks. And more lies.
Where did god say anything about spiritual life concerning Adam and Eve, or do you just make things up as you type? Where in your bible did it say that Adam died a spiritual death?
Let's assume for a moment that you were correct about the death being only spiritual, tell us then, would Adam and Eve have eventually physically died if they did not eat the fruit?

samsy5460: Churches are not clubs for the perfect.
They are clinics for the sick, the wounded
and the maimed, where those a bit
stronger help those who are still weak.
The forgiven forgive. The healed heal.
The comforted comfort others. Our role is not to kick people when they are down.
They are the devil’s victims and, rather than scorn we should pour on them the oil of understanding and bring recovery and joy. God bless you.

tosh

And these are only the ones we know about.
It could even be less than 0.000001% of the universe.
And also assuming there is only one "universe".

Imagine: what if our universe is just one tiny dot in a cluster of multitidude of others universes?
What if this multiverse cluster is one amongst many, and so on.
The reality is that our knowledge of our surrounding are so limited that we can only imagine.

Thanks for those reality check pictures.

Oahray: You do not truly know the Bible as much as you believe you do. God's command was communicated directly to Adam (Gen 2:15-17) and he was told that he would die in the DAY he eats of it. One thing you fail to realise is that 'day' as used in the Bible isnt limited to the idea of 24hrs. An evidence is Genesis 2:4, which mentions 'the DAY God made the earth and heaven'. Of course we know it took 6 creative 'days' to make the earth ready. 'Day' could mean an unspecified period of time (browse up and make some research). The Bible also mentions a day being as a thousand years, and a thousand years being as a day in God's eyes (2 Peter 3:9). Bottom line here, God isnt limited or confined by our view of time.
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As for the conversation between Satan and Eve, here is what the Bible tells us (Genesis 3:1-6):
(1) Through the serpent, the devil asks if it is true that God banned them from EVERY tree.
(2) Eve answered saying it was just one tree from which they were banned, the tree of knowledge of good and bad, and that God told them that they would die if they touch it.
(3) The devil says 'you WILL NOT DIE'
Notice that the bone of contention here wasnt whether they would die THAT DAY, as Eve didnt even mention that part. The bone of contention was whether they would die at all.
God said they would die... Satan said they would not die.
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Now answer your own question yourself, who was lying?

God was of course! You assume that everlasting life was given to Adam and Eve but have absolutely no proof to back it up.

If THAT DAY is irrelevant, please tell us why god deemed it important to mention THAT DAY.

It has never been question of whether they will die at all because they were never promised everlasting life. They knew what death was and like every living thing, was afraid of dying. Only with the reassurance of Satan did they open their eyes and became less stupidd.

If your god does not know the difference between 1 day and 1000 years, then he is as clueless as an earthworm in a puddle.

TroGunn: Bible newbie, have you never read that a day to God can be like a thousand years? - 2Peter 3:8, Ps 90:4. Adam and Eve had their death sentence the day the sinned. And they died. It's the original liar, Satan that said they wouldn't die. He's the same one fooling people that they don't really die. "For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord" - Romans 6:23. If everyone who dies go on living eternally, in heaven or hell as some say, then how does God reward with gift of another eternal life? Can one get two eternal life?

There is what the bible says and there's what you say.

[quote author=true?]Yes you are still 10,000 years behind the times. The Bible was not written by elite Europeans.

The front part was written by men chosen by God in Hebrew. The back part was written
by men who knew Jesus, and written in Greek. These two sections were written on
Scrolls

King James had these two parts written into English in book form.
And yes, over time some religious leaders made changes to this book.
One has but to go back to the scrolls to see what they changed.

The near death experience people have had is common among all humans. If they had truly been dead, they could not have come back to life.
The medical field knows little about the human brain. They are still learning.
When men thought the earth was flat, the Bible described it as a ball in space, suspended by nothing.
Men went to the moon, and came back with samples of rock, and soil. The science world concluded, “It appears the moon is nothing more than a big reflector of light.”
They could have read the Bible, and saved their self the trip/ The Bible says, “The moon is there to reflect light upon the earth.”

One thing you do have correct..."Religious leaders lie, and they are doing it for money."

Need I go on, and on?[/quote]No need to go on because the nonsense spilling from your keyboard is madenning.
First you construct a straw man argument about who wrote the bible when the other person was talking about who put together, the many books that form the bible. Two seperate set of people.
Then you start attributting to your bible things it did not say. No wonder you are not able to reference your assertions. The gullible will actually believe your nonsense.
Where in the bible was the earth described as a ball in space, suspended by nothing?
Where in the bible did it say that “The moon is there to reflect light upon the earth.”?

Oahray: First recorded lie in human history... The devil, the original serpent told Eve: "you will not die." Eve believed this...
Some years later Adam and Eve dies.
Another lie springs up to make the first seem true: "When you die, you really do not die. Humans have an immortal soul". Majority of humans believe this...
Why? Because the devil and his demons are willing and able to materialise (spirits can do this to be visible) in the form of a dead one to prove their point.
Their aim? Same aim the devil had when he lied to Eve -to make God seem the liar to humans.
From your posts here, the devil is pretty much succeeding... Sadly.

LIES! LIES! LIES!

Your god told Adam and Eve that they will die the day they eat the fruit. Satan said "no true". They ate it and didn't die on that day. Who was lying?

Genesis 2:17

17 but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat from it you will surely die.”

[quote author=true?]Give yourself a break. The more you spout about the Bible, the more you sound like a buffoon.[/quote]

[quote author=true?]If you are going to contradict what others quote from the scriptures, at least read the Bible to make sure it does not say what the person said…otherwise you keep sounding like a fool.

The life after death is the resurrection back to life as a human. If you are not resurrected, you are just fertilizer for the earth. God will get some use out of those who turn their backs to him[/quote]Why was he blaming Satan? How ghosts take concern Satan?

CoxyB: @op, I believe u cos ma grandma died 3yrs ago, &eva sinc she has been sendn msgs 2us thru dream, most of which happens in reality

And all my ancestors send me sms. I wonder which network they use.

[quote author=deal_ordea]Now everybody.. Time to leave this thread and sleep in fear.. You all are seeing the ghost real for now[/quote]your ghost looks so sexy. does she do blowjobs?

Calm down bro. Nobody is going anywhere.
This life is all you've got. Live it wisely.

I got your email mr mclatunji. no need to send me warnings. we were just joking. lighten up man. this no be do or die affair. i have already heard about how you overlord this area like your existence depends on it and now you confirm.
Sorry to all muslims if i offended anyone but I just thought there might be some fun loving people here who might appreciate some light humour. As that may not be the case, I retreat back and you wont see me again.
ciao.

ijawkid: Satan and his demons are the ones who could make such things happen to decieve many that when a person dies he or she doesn't really die.......

But from the scriptures the dead are conscious of nothing at all......

Stop lying about Satan.
It is your scriptures and doctrines that teach about life after death.

deols: You are getting it wrong man. Muslims are not a race. There are Muslimsvin evry race and that makes d verse u quoted wrong in ds regards...

How about starting ur thread on dat?

The problem with starting a thread like you said in your section is that it will get banned.

Holy Cow! I can see her face!

I'll now go into my room and play with myself.

Femmymata2: I don't really care about God or satan's happiness. If u feel athiesm=satanism,well its ur opinion. Athiesm removes the idea that someone who is in another religion apart from mine is wrong,unfortunate,infidel or going to hell.

And you shouldn't. What is most important is your own happiness. Put yourself first. You are on the right path sister. More grease to your elbows.

OP, your dream has a number of meanings.

1 - You think you are better than people around you.
2 - You have a subconscious wish to hurt yourself.
3 - You covet your neighbour's wife. (But you already know this)

What you can do is look in your past on who you may have hurt in your family or who in your family may have hurt you. You need to make peace with them.

You need to speak to your neighbour's wife and tell her your feelings for her. Imagine what both of you are missing if she has the same feelings towards you.

Femmymata2: Well, as an atheist i don't believe satan exist. I don't know why satan does not reveal himself, do we need faith to believe satan too. I don't understand how this part of the world is obsessed with the jewish culture and religion.. Its really bizarre to me

That's the beauty of Satanism as compared to godliness. You don't even need to believe in Him. He is very happy that you are an atheist because you are on the right path to knowledge. Stay strong.

There is racism in ALL monotheistic religious books. The islamic racism against blacks is even worse. When I see a black muslim, I smh.

[quote author=true?]I'm not to smart, so help me out here. Atheist do not believe in God, But, they believe in a creature God created, Satan?
The part you do have correct; become a follower of Satan, and he may give you power and wealth...but he can't give you life. One thing you don't know about Satan...Once he gets you out on a lim, he cuts it off, and you're a dead duck. Remember he is the father of the lie, What makes you think he is telling you the truth? And no, he can not creat, or give life.[/quote]Thanks for confirming the obvious. The first step in solving a problem is acknowledging the problem. You certainly do need Satan to shine your eyes and make you smart. Come to Him today.

[quote author=Mr_Anony]Lol, really? how so?[/quote]You should know.
Self sacrifice - butt hurt
Love of god - priesthood
Love of fellow men - gay.

[quote author=Mr_Anony]It is the life of Christ i.e self sacrifice and the love of God and our fellow man that is at its core.[/quote]You just described gay priests.

[quote author=Mr_Anony]What I ask you is very simple: what is the life of a satanist all about?[/quote]Gaining knowledge and reaping the rewards.

[quote author=Mr_Anony]Quote from your link:

Independent Satanism is an eclectic form of Satanism that focuses on individualism and self enlightenment without the aide of group or organized Satanism. many are self-initiated into the practice of Satanism and are known as solitary practitioners of magic. The method of independent Satanism include the signing of a pact or agreement with their chosen Satanic deity. Independent Satanism can take on a variety of beliefs from different sources, and they tend to develop their own personal life philosophy independent of popular Satanic thought.

I'll come back to this quote later but more to the point of why I asked the question.

Would you agree that satanism can be summarized as "do as you please - you are the ultimate authority" i.e. in a way satanism can be said to be the worship of self?[/quote]I thought your point of asking the question was to determine if I was a real or fake Satanist. LOL

Anyway, Satanism starts first and foremost with the rejection of ignorance. Reducing Satanism to a "do as you please" philosophy is a myopic view. "Do as you please" is one of the consequences of Satanism. Pleasure is a gift from Satan. You need knowledge first help you find that which gives you pleasure.
Adam and Eve had inside of them the existence of pleasure of sleeping with each other but they did know know it. The knowledge came after they had obeyed Satan, acquired and ate the fruit of knowledge. So you see, their sexual pleasure was a consequence of their Satanism, not the ultimate authority.

[quote author=true?]Ahhhh, thank you for this great insight. Everything is white man lies. The white man god is not real. The white mans dog and cat are gay. The black African man is a great man…he pokes men in the butt with his joystick. The great African black man is a great builder of things. He builds dirt roads, mud houses, He has his dog god, his monkey god, and yes, his joystick god. The black African man is lazy. He waits for the white man to send him food. The children of Africa are dying of hunger, and all the mighty black African man can do is blame the white man.
Sir, you are a racist pig.[/quote]whatever

Ihedinobi: Hmmmm . . . Not yet into it, are you? Still skimming the surface? Still very much redeemable then.

You mean still very much brainwashable into rebelieving nonsense? No chance pal.

Ihedinobi: So where did your own search take you?

I am not spiritual if that't what you were refering to. However if I find that spiritualism will lead me to more knowledge, I will try it. For now I'm on another path altogether. The path of seeing is believing, experimenting to believe, etc. Physical realm.

Ihedinobi: @advocate666, never mind. Checked your link out. Anyhow, what does being an independent satanist translate to for you? I'm under the impression that you mess with the psychic/spiritual realms, do you really? Or is satanism just a philosophy for you?

For me, Satanism is more than a philosophy. It is a way of life. The guiding principle is to seek out knowledge and follow the search wherever it leads you, be it to the psychic/spritual ream or the physical one, just follow it. Satan will not teach you knowlegde. He will show you how you can gain it like He did to Eve.
There are different types of Satanists but the beginning of Satanism is to disbelieve everything you have been told and start looking for enlightenment. Some end up as atheists, some might start believeing in other things like aliens or such, but all are ignorant Satanists.

[quote author=true?]\

From what I have read, HIV came from Africa...somebody put their dick in the wrong place. I do not believe in religion, but, I do believe in God, and his written word. Men who sleep with men are in trouble...or monkeys.[/quote]Of course you believe everything the whiteman tells you.

Your ancestors' religion is evil, you believe.
Their god is the true god, you believe.
Bad diseases came from Africa, you believe.