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patches689:
Are you saying that source is an official SAAF website?

Yes or no

Should we say that website posts false information?

Yes or no?

jln115:
As I said before, common sense should tell you that to fly 14 fully operational Gripens at any given time ,you need 14 pilots.

You said Nigeria has 3 pilots for 11 F-7 jets....is that the common sense you we are talking about?

How many pilots is needed to fly 11 F-7 jets based on your common sense ? Answer....

jln115:
Show me a source that NAF has more than 3 F-7 pilots

Use your Common sense .... 11 F-7 jets, needs how many pilots ?
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jln115:
As I said before, common sense should tell you that to fly 14 fully operational Gripens at any given time ,you need 14 pilots.

Although if I have to be honest most Nigerians lack this basic human quality.

So your citation and source is COMMON SENSE....the same common sense that you have never displayed in your m0ronic argument patterns
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Henry120:
Those are duds you r3tard. You have no mokopa's in service.

Duds...dud missile...rubber/plastic sample for static display at public show....ah ! Oga you wicked

patches689:
Because yet again you are mis-quoting him and telling lies.

Put your money where your mouth is, quote him and I shall educate you.

The whole of SAAF proves me right
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patches689:
Why would they?

They cant afford it.

Okay, you admit Brazil NEVER showed interest in the obsolete Rooivalk....cool bro

patches689:
But you said sales represent quality?

Now you say that sales dont represent quality?

Make up your mind.

Only a fool compares a 2nd generation tank with a 3rd generation
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patches689:
Quote him again and I will expose you again.

He said that it is not a good export product as other militaries dont have the capabilities to operate it.

Why should I repeat same story everybody has read here and become tired of it, you think I am a jobless man employed on Nairaland?

patches689:
Americans will be doing just that the with the F35 JSF... planned aquisition is over 2000 aircraft

When, tomorrow morning?

patches689:
Brazil is buying new gripen and a new carrier and on a limited budget.

They could not afford Rooivalks in the numbers that they need.

Show citation where Brazil offered to buy Rooivalk in the first instance
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patches689:
A-darter enters service this year.

236 badger will be in service soon.

You said neither will happen, both have happened. Egg all over your face.

Well it has NOT happened as we speak....mud all over your face...ugly

No A-darter in service/inducted, 5 Badgers in 15 years.

the reast of your argument is excuses and stories...tales by moonlight bra
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patches689:
According to a private blog

Recent pictoral evidence proves otherwise

Defenceweb interveiw with SAAF chief of staff says NO MOKOPA NEEDED....never ordered, his speech was posted here many times.

patches689:
Citation please.

Google sales orders for Mi-35P and Mi-35M....compare the numbers with 12 Rooivalks. Odenson

patches689:
Citation please

Google 3 km helicopter altitude above sea level....fool

MikeCZAR:
You speak South African English?

Freely available on google translator and accent pronunciation interface...you village man
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patches689:
How many have you sold?

ZERO

New project...38 m boats. Project expansion before sales you fool

patches689:
Why are you posting that old source over and over?

The claims in your source were debunked in the Artical posted on defenceweb.

Your defenceweb source is old...2013

jln115:
14 pilots and 4 navigators....from my own source

Quote where your source said 14 pilots.

"According to testimony at the arms deal commission, 18 Gripen aircrew (navigators and pilots) have been trained."

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=31821
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jln115:
14 pilots and 4 navigators....from my own source

Your source did NOT say 14 pilots, said 18 crew of both pilots and navigators.

"According to testimony at the arms deal commission, 18 Gripen aircrew (navigators and pilots) have been trained."

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=31821

You are yet to show ONE SINGLE SOURCE that NAF has shortage of F-7 jet pilots...you are afraid of your own false claims?

Cowaaaaard Show me source of NAF's 3 F-7 jet pilots, I have asked you 10 times in 10 hours...you keep trembling like jelly fish
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patches689:
Probably because Russians are holding off until the PAK-FA finishes development.

LOL...you think aircraft is cheap like Sausage and hamburgers?

To replace over 300 Russian Hinds and over 300 Russian MiG-29s

Has America replaced it's F-16 and F-15 jets of cold war era?

Mumu

stillchris:
This is not a d1ck measuring contest, but i'm very proud of our military right now. even though the international community and media refuse to acknowledge it (since good news coming out of Africa is not good for business), i will not be decieved.

The Nigerian military has set a record by rescuing 600 captives with just one casualty from a terrorist stronghold known for it's extremely difficult terrain. sambisa is almost free.
This in less than a week.

Abeg, 1 million gbosa to our boys in uniform.

saffers. feel free to hate/envy

[size=16pt]Bros, the international media is refusing to air the news here o !

CNN, BBC, VOA, AL-JAZEERA, REUTERS....all the news media that broadcast the kidnap of 200 Chibok girls have gone silent now that Nigeria's military has done what the NATO powers failed to do.

If it was Chadian army that entered Sambisa forest, the news will be splashed on every TV worldwide by these white racists and black haters of Nigeria....the ones suffering from inferiority complex like South Africa and Ghana.

Tv news have not shown the Sambisa forest victory and the freed captives since over a week ago...

Not even once on the big Tv stations in North America...NOT EVEN ONCE !

....All because Nigerian military, world's best performing army year 2015 has shocked the world....


I see South Africans crying already....
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patches689:
Denel is simply keeping their product up to date in an ever changing market.

Brazil didnt get the Rooivalk as they probably cannot afford to buy Rooivalk in the numbers they need.

Citation needed....Brazil is affording the latest Gripen in large numbers.

DENEL is changing Rooivalk to MK2....proves me right....Current Rooivalk is obsolete....DENEL is now my proof....my citation
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patches689:
The T-72 out-sold the abrams

Is the T-72 better than the Abrams?

No one has been sold the F-22 Raptor... does that mean it is the worst fighter in the world?

F-22 Raptor sale is banned and forbidden by American law....no export allowed....banned, embargoed.

T-72 and Abrams are not same generation, don't compare there specs, RHA+ERA is 2nd generation, COMPOSITE is 3rd generation...thought you said you drink tanks like water....like it's in your blood....LOL
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patches689:
Didnt you say the same thing about the A-darter?

And the Badger?

Lol

A-Darter is NOT yet in service....production plan is NOT = arsenal indcution

Bader IFV....5 units produced in 15 years....1 unit per 3 years....cool production rate....Adam Smith will envy your economics of 'mass prodcution'
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patches689:
So what is the Mokopa and Ingwe ZT3?

Your hinds have no air to air missiles so what is the point of saying that?

Same way Rooivalk too has not missiles in SAAF
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patches689:
Refer to the english he used... "OVER 2km" as apposed to "UP-TO 2km"

He said ABOUT 2 km NOT over....ABOUT....could mean less than 2 km....Rooivalk gun is weak ranged
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patches689:
20mm is better because Accuracy

Citation needed

andrewza:
Does it matter. At least 2 countries thought it was a good upgrade to swap out the Russian guns for a SA built 20mm.

2 countries out of 20....cool minority.

andrewza:
No IFV can survive a 20mm hit on the roof. So why the 30mm that as less rounds.


The badger frontal arc can take a 30mm hit....

Helicopters attack the IFV roof not frontal arc.

andrewza:
And the NG is better. Sweden's threats have upgraded so they upgraded. Our threats are the same.

Angola and Uganda fly Su-30 Flankers, the Ugandan version is brand new and more sophisticated than the Gripen.

Your threat has increased. Uganda has ASM and ARM for its new Su-30 jets
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patches689:
If you could afford them

You would have them

But you cant

Hind E costs more than Super Hind
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patches689:
How many of those have been modernized?

50 times more than the number of existing Rooivalks
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