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jln115again:
Yet our junk is much more advanced than your T72s.

Our ERA armour will kill all SANDF RHA armour....they won't even find your tank crews' dead body to bury after we blast your 105 mm gun tin can Olifant tanks with our 125 mm T-72 guns
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saengine:
Situation seemed sorted. Unit already existed. Tactics already existed. Hmmm

In the words of former EO's man Eeben Barlow...."we built it from scratch"

saengine:
http://sofrep.com/40623/eeben-barlow-speaks-pt-2-development-nigerian-strike-force/

Eeben Barlow Speaks Out (Pt. 2): Development of a Nigerian Strike Force

The chairman of STTEP, Eeben Barlow, reports, “Our relationship with the Nigerian government and the Nigerian Armed Forces is very good, and as fellow Africans, they recognize the value we have added thus far at the strategic, operational and tactical levels.


An advanced party of South African military veterans working for STTEP landed in Nigeria by early January of 2015. Instead of social-media activism, they held a selection program for the elite Nigerian military unit they were to train while the main body of STTEP began to arrive. “It is a mobile strike force with its own organic air support, intelligence, communications, logistics, and other relevant combat support elements,” said Barlow. He declined to name the unit they were training, but an open source investigation strongly suggests this unit is the 72 Strike Force.


By the time the main body of STTEP contractors arrived, the selection process for the Nigerian strike force was complete and training was able to commence immediately. “We built it from scratch,” Barlow explained, “and were able to, in a very short space of time, get it combat ready. The results this force achieved, along with the support of the Nigerian Army are indeed remarkable.

The South Africans trained their Nigerian counterparts in the tactics, techniques, and procedures that they had practiced and refined on the battlefield since South Africa’s conflicts in the 1980s, including Barlow’s concept of relentless pursuit (which will be explored in a future article).

Meanwhile, Boko Haram was experiencing an increase in operational tempo and achieving successes in their area of operations.

With this in mind, STTEP’s mission quickly transitioned from training a rescue unit to training a rapidly deploying mobile strike force, and mentoring those they trained in the field. “By late February, the strike force conducted its first highly successful operational deployment,” Barlow said.

Thank you for giving us the long awaited proof that NO SOUTH AFRICAN MERCENARY fought any battle for Nigeria....all they did was PMC of about 5 men trained 120 Nigerian troops on COIN mobility....added to the Nigerian NDA training we already gave those troops in Kaduna, the backbone military training of those 72 strike force is purely a Nigerian military academy foundation.

Thanks for proving to the world that NO SINGLE bullet was fired in war by a South African mercenary in Nigeria during Boko Haram war.

BTWN....a PMC is a private military company when all they do is training, if they fight on battlefield they will become mercenary, unfortunately, all they did in Nigeria was extra training a handful of Nigerian army trained men.

You cannot build a special ops force from scratch with fresh recruit troops, those men were already Nigerian army soldiers for years before now....trained by Nigeria.

Adding 5 cubes of sugar to my tea that already had 10 cubes before, does no mean you made my tea sweet for me.

So much noise for about 120 men of 72 Strike force....Nigerian army has about 150,000 troops....that PMC trained force is very very tiny

Thanks for proving us right....I like y.our suicide comment


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jln115again:
We actually only have a handful of Olifant MK1s left, they are mostly used for training and display purposes, most of them are with the Army Museum, the rest are MK1Bs and MK2s.

90 % of SANDF Olifant tanks today are the old cargo plain metal ancient RHA armour, only about 10 % of your Olifants got modern armour upgrade. Today, Nigeria will defeat South Africa in a tank vs tank battle.

One Boko Haram RPG with HEAT warhead will tear 200 units of SANDF Olifant tanks into pieces

SANDF armour is now obsolete.....world war II relics.....Nigerian T-72 tanks with ERA armour will ruin and wreck SANDF ancient tanks
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jln115again:
We actually only have a handful of Olifant MK1s left, they are mostly used for training and display purposes, most of them are with the Army Museum, the rest are MK1Bs and MK2s.

90 % of SANDF Olifant tanks today are the old cargo plain metal ancient RHA armour, only about 10 % of your Olifants got modern armour upgrade. Today, Nigeria will defeat South Africa in a tank vs tank battle.

One Boko Haram RPG with HEAT warhead will tear 200 units of SANDF Olifant tanks into pieces

SANDF armour is now obsolete.....world war II relics
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Patchesagain:
Tavors and silly scarves dont make men elite or effective

tell us what they have accomplished

10 years of war....and same Naija elites killed Shekau I, the same way US Seals elite killed Osama.

SANDF elite has not killed one Rhino poacher
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Patchesagain:
Tavors and silly scarves dont make men elite or effective

tell us what they have accomplished

Those are NA elite forces, unless a dullard like you think those are regular troops. The 72 strike force uses AK-47, Nigerian SF standard is Travor, and their training is overseas after NDA....PMC do not train Nigerian elite troops. 120 men in the 72 strike force are just a new unit for mobile duty, that does not make them the real elite.....our real Elite are the SF.....they killed Shekau I inside his camp....72 Strike force was not even born then, those guys have only 3 months experience after PMC training.....NA commando elites have been fighting war for over 10 years consistently.....that's the real elite.

You know nothing about what makes an elite force, you think PMC training is the qualification....Olodo
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Patchesagain:
According to most sources you have less than 12 T-72's in total.

The photos of Nigerian T-72 alone counts almost 100 units, mixed RHA and ERA versions.....SIPRI lost count and surrendered.
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Patchesagain:
Low you own us through the most obscure and indirect way possible...

[size=16pt]Problem is: WE DIRECTLY OWN YOU BECAUSE A SOUTH AFRICAN DIRECTLY TRAINED YOUR MOST ELITE UNIT[/b][/size]

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Problem 1: Man is a private military company owner NOT the SANDF....and he is ANC's enemy NOT friend

Problem 2: Most elite unit in Nigeria are Special Forces, Commandos ! Trained overseas and NDA Kaduna ![/size]
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Patchesagain:
ERA can be easily purchased and installed.

The T72 is a technology demonstrator. Do you know what that means?

Yes, it means you should not have posted it in the first place. Use your head next time
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jln115again:
Nigerian T72s without ERA:

Yes, we have both types, RHA and ERA, nobody ever denied it, the photos are all over the internet.

South Africa has NO SINGLE T-72 tank with ERA ......Nigeria has many !
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Patchesagain:
When did Nigeria train Zimbabwe?

Shoke was trained in Russia and completed a Brigade Commanders Course making him a senior officer.

This is the fact of the matter.

"Chief of the SANDF, General S. Shoke

General Solly Zacharia Shoke was born in Alexandra Township, in Johannesburg on 15 August 1956. General Shoke left the country in1976 after the uprisings and joined the military wing of the African National Congress - Umkhonto we Sizwe. He received his basic military training in Angola and further training in the then Soviet Union.

After he received his basic military training in Angola and serving in various capacities in the African National Congress’ military wing, uMkhonto weSizwe (MK) both inside and outside the country he rose through ranks to become the commander of the then Transvaal Machinery.

He was later selected to become part of the underground Collective Leadership (Operation Vula). He operated internally until the unbanning of the liberation movements. After the unbanning of the African National Congress he became part of the National Organising Department of the ANC whose mission was to organise the ANC Structures in the country. General Shoke was also part of the committees that facilitated the peaceful transition to democracy in South African including the armed forces.

In preparation for the integration of the armed forces he went to Zimbabwe to do an Intermediate Staff Course. After the ushering in of the new democratic era Lt Gen Shoke did his Senior Command and Staff Duties Course in South Africa. He later did the Joint Staff Course; the highest military qualification in South Africa. He also holds a Diploma in Human Resources Management and a certificate in defence management."

http://www.dod.mil.za/csandf/chief.htm

South African army chief of staff entered SANDF service with final training in Zimbabwe, first training was in Angola.

"The Nigerian Army Command and Staff College Jaji also attracted officers from other African states. Students from Benin, Ethiopia, Ghana, Sierra Leone, Tanzania, Uganda, and Zimbabwe regularly attended, and the first Botswanan officers attended the 1986-87 course."

Nigerian army trained Zimbabwe to train South Africa's most senior army chief, Nigeria trains SANDF, we own you o !

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Patchesagain:
Much more advanced than yours. And in service in Algeria or Morocco.

Its a technology demonstrator... ERA can be purchased an upgraded.

Fact is, South Africa builds better T-72's than Nigeria has in service.

T-72 with no ERA will be torn apart by ordinary RPG HEAT....your Southie T-72 is an inferior tin can

See my Naija ERA blocks ......I will eat your obsolete T-72...
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Patchesagain:
Pictures and demographics of senior ranks tell a different story.

Sorry for you.

Citation needed....web link...proof
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Patchesagain:
SANDF is full of thousands of bush war veterans passing on skills and knowledge. One Bush War veteran created a unit in the Nigerian Army that is maybe comparable to the average SANDF unit.

SANDF cheif was trained in Russia where he completed a Brigade Commanders Course, he was also re-trained upon intergration into the SANDF.

99% of Bush war veterans are dead or forced to retire like Col. Eben....ANC hates them.

Posting photos of old white men confirms SANDF has the weakest aged infantry of half dead men in the world.

Those old men are NOT confirmed to be Bush war veterans, show me proof that that old man with rifle fought in Angola, most of SADF was doing home guard......60,0000 Angolan mercenaries were on battle front saving South African army from being overwhelmed by Cuban boys and girls in anger

SANDF General Shoke was trained by Zimbabwe that was trained by Nigeria....his real field combat skills are Nigerian imparted.

SANDF army chief of staff has Nigerian training inside him.

SAAF air force chief was trained by Nigeria in Zaria flying school.

We own your military, all your leaders' brains are in our pocket
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jln115again:
@Agaugust: SANDF Upgraded T72

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NOT in service with SANDF, poor T-72 with no ERA armour, obsolete crap, you boast of that ?

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Patchesagain:
Trained by South Africans

who trains the SANDF? o yes.. South Africans

PMC of white men of apartheid army that you have abandoned and turned into outcasts and enemies.....show me where ANC government paid Colonel Eben Barlow to train today's SANDF....those guys Nigeria hired are you country's enemies today, ANC is starving them to death in revenge for Apartheid atrocities.

Today's SANDF is trained by a rag tag army chief of staff who was trained by Zimbabwe that was trained by Nigeria.

Nigerian military trains SAAF and SANDF taday 2015 through your top generals and chiefs of staff who now train and lead all SANDF

Nigeria trained current SANDF trainers and leaders, we own SANDF !

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Patchesagain:
Augustus.

WE ARE MAKING FUN OF YOU WITH THE LEO 2 PICTURES.

Two photos of one same LEO tank that you admit SANDF has NOT ordered and NOT in service...you went suicidal full blast, y.ou shot friendly fire blue on blue against every other South African here today....I love y.our suicide, love it !
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Patchesagain:
And their SUPAH ELITE 72 Strike Force is nothing more than a bog-standard SANDF motorized formation with attached air-assault assets

The Nigerian strike force fought battles with experience and won a war.

The SANDF 50,000 man army has near ZERO war experience....see the difference....humbles you


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5t9MvXl9AU
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andrewza:
I assumed that with your knowledge of the flaklands war you knew about them.

Oh, you now respect and depend on my knowledge ? Cool
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Patchesagain:
It was classified until the order was announced.

The propellers it uses are still classified... when one was in dry dock it had its props replaced with factory spec props.

So it means if order has not been made to purchase, no announcement by SANDF or RSA.

Now, LEO MBT purchase has NOT been announced because SANDF has NEVER ordered it, so you have NONE, NO LEO MBT.

Thanks for falling into this self trap to prove that all you Southies are telling lies about LEO in SANDF service.

I always love y.our suicide style Patches....real cool suicide comments
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Patchesagain:
Are your 150 million brains too dull to find that simple information? You need a South African brain to save you as usual ?

It's not my problem, @Andewza first posted the claim with NO source, he needs to prove it....his source does NOT exist, so he is trapped.....just like you are trapped too

andrewza:
I suspect it is still very much classified top secruit.

Ordinary tank classified? Is it a nuclear weapon? Your submarine acquisition was not classified....dundees

Patchesagain:
Stop playing games.

Post the citation.

75 km according to me, if you have a different data, tell us what it is, then I will post citation...

What is the range of Gripen jet radar in ground search mode ?

Tell us your own data.....Patrick the coward.....always afraid of Nigerian
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andrewza:
Rich comeing from you since you can't even Google the GDF victories in the Falklands war.

You posted GDF claims and boasted about it without a single citation, I asked you to proof your claim and you ran away, so you are afraid to prove with sources that an AAA gun is better than Roland SAM.....come on now, navy cook....slice these onions and lets fry eggs
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Patchesagain:
Do you suffer from some form of mental impairment?

Why do you keep blathering on about nonsense?

Post the citation so we can move on with the debate.

Okay, before I post it, let me prepare the ground for your humiliation....

What is the range of Gripen jet radar in ground search mode ?

#Trap

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jln115:
You have no records of receiving 6 alpha jets!! There are only records that state NAF received only 2 Alpha jets.

Leopard 2A4 in Cape Town.

It's NOT in SANDF service dude, do you know what service means ? Your Southie education is that bad?

See our USAir Alpha jet in NAF colours...
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andrewza:
Technically it is in SANDF hands. Just belongs to the military museum.

Did you pay for it? Is it in service? Was it not returned after evaluation?

SANDF does NOT list it in your army arsenal, so you do NOT have it
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Patchesagain:
All I am asking is for is a citation.

Stop making childish posts and provide it.

South African air force officer @Fighter Pilot with South African BSc degree in military science does not know his own air force's Gripen jet ground search radar range, and you are now begging me to help your country find it as a military researcher....a Nigerian military researcher.

You have no shame ? You cannot even google it yourself?

Remember the Roland Vs Bomb Janes defence humiliation.....better be careful this time around bra....find that radar range yourself and post it now to avoid me humiliating South Africa again today

Are your 50 million brains too dull to find that simple information? You need a Nigerian brain to save you as usual ?
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Patchesagain:
Gripen ground search is 75km? Prove it!

If I have to teach you South Africans the technical details of your own Gripen jet, then you have bowed to me as a Nigerian military researcher.

Now save yourself that humiliation from me, quickly post the ground search radar range of Gripen jet, please let me not lecture South Africans about their own air force on Nairaland, the Southie who made that Gripen error that I corrected is an SAAF officer on this forum....please save yourselves from the hands of Nigerians, let me not take your air force officers job, it will lead to more xenophobia....
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andrewza:
I see you can't see the sarcasm. They where copying you with your typical unsupported claims.

The Leo2 that was or is there is not south African. It was being tested in SA to check for suitability of it in Africa.

Sarcasm does not apply in that argument, we showed him photos of NAF Mi-24V and Alpha USAir in service. We have them !

@jn115 is claiming his country has LEO tanks in SANDF service which are not recorded by SIPRI, so we ask him to show us even one single unit in service that SIPRI has missed, the same way they missed NAF Mi-24V and Alpha USAir

He became unreasonable, and we know how to deal with such people here
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jln115:
No records that NAF received 6 alphas!!!! All sources state that you only received 2.

There is record about USAir Alphas in NAF service as you agree, forget the numbers argument, SHOW US ONE LEO MBT IN SANDF SERVICE !
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andrewza:
Ah the TTD

Any case we have more than one cammo scheme for armour.

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The Leo MBT in Karoo IS NOT in service with SANDF.....no records on SIPRI....no reports from SANDF.....never seen in armoury or army base
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