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mzilakazi:
The movie was produced in South Africa by South Africans dummy.

British partnership and expertise you dummy ...

The UK Film & TV Production Company PLC
Industrial Development Corporation of South Africa.

Or you don't know the meaning of UK ? United kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland ! Soweto dundee
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Patchesagain:
hahahha

now i can add the Frogfoot to your list of lies.

Su30 is top secret? yet you know about it?

It's top secret because you won't find any written source to confirm it. You won't know the number of jets or prices, nor the versions, same way you won't know the export country. That's top secrecy by any standards.

Su-25 Frogfoot is coming to NAF, to replace Super Tucano as COIN aircraft, only some financial allegations slows it down.

http://tech.euoa.net/tag/nigeria

http://thenationonlineng.net/new/nigeria-set-lose-466m-arms-deal/

Su-30 Flanker is still under evaluation for NAF as a second addition to the JF-17 that has been fully evaluated and awaiting paper signature.

NAF is buying both a heavy super maneuverable jet with about 400 km range radar plus a light jet to be manufactured in Nigeria in future with the original manufacturer transfering technology 100%.

Perfect plans for air power to dominate African airspace, NAF is not in a hurry, slow but steady we go, even Egypt will envy Nigerian air force
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Patchesagain:
You said it must be filmed in South Africa with South African creativity

Now you move the goal posts?

Not suprising

I mean a South African product 100%

We don't want American or British input in assessing African achievement.

Common sense should tell you that we are comparing African nations creativity, not joint venture collaboration with Americans or Europeans.

You see how difficult it is for you black and coloured South Africans to stand alone on your two feet without white support linked to Europe and America or Australia/New Zealand?

You guys are empty headed Soweto grade dundeees
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mzilakazi:
Tsotsi won the academy award.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsotsi

South African movies are the best bro. They always get nominations in the academy awards. Not that nonsense you call Nollywood.


The lion king won six different awards.

According to your own very source, Totsi is a South African plus British plus American production movie, you DON'T own it...



The UK Film & TV Production Company PLC
Industrial Development Corporation of South Africa
The National Film and Video Foundation of SA
Moviworld
Tsotsi Films



Distributed by

Ster-Kinekor Pictures
(South Africa)
Miramax Films
(United States)




Release dates


18 August 2005 (Edinburgh Film Festival)
23 December 2005 (South Africa)




Running time

94 minutes



Country

South Africa, United Kingdom
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BACK TO MILITARY TOPIC YOU FOOLS, GO SLEEP TONIGHT WITH HUMBLE PIE IN YOUR STOMACHS, FORCEFULLY FORCED DOWN YOUR THROATS BY NIGERIAN NOLLYWOOD MOVIE INDUSTRY.


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mzilakazi:
Mzansi's ghetto life

We ask for global awards, this mumu is posting color photos of movie cover sleeves and advert posters.

Olodo

Better we go back to military topic.

Lesson learnt : Never in your life as a South African , compare Nigerian movie industry with that of South Africa, or today's humiliation will be repeated in grand style

Goodbye
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jln115:
Uhm.....District 9

Are you a school drop out with peanut brains?

District 9 is NOT a wholly South Africa movie like Nigerian Irapada.

District 9 movie producers are American, Australian, and New Zealander.

Are those South Africans? Fool

mzilakazi:
Black South African movies

Show us their achievements across continents and the intercontinental awards they won like Nollywood IRAPADA movie that is rated by CNN as one of the best African movies of the century....show us your own black movies intercontinental awards
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Centrifude:
S.A Tax-Revenue Collection System is one of the best on the continent, and you know that plus you can't track of random Shops popping up in Squarter Camps.

You call us a Third world country yet your tax Collection system is a thousand times worse.

How many people actually pay taxes in Nigeria?

Actually Nigeria has one of the best tax systems in Africa, computerization of fiscal revenue and modernization of collection methodology was installed by a North American company and it's world class.

Fact is that at the grass root level, local people pay tax in Nigeria, the informal sector on the streets and remote areas pay levies to the Local government street to street tax collectors who go around their local areas on foot or motor bikes.

Nigeria has changed dramatically in the last decade.

mzilakazi:
One South Aftican movie=100 Cellphone shot Nollywood movies.

LOL....one of the best African movies in this century is Nigerian IRAPADA...

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irapada
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mzilakazi:
It is not the duty of tax collector to register businesses. People should voluntarily register their business. When they are broken into as a result of xenophobic attacks, the insurance or even the government won't pay for the damages.

You just confirmed what we have been saying...South Africa is a shït hole third world country.

Thank you.

mzilakazi:
SA movies have made the mark than hundreds of Nollywood movies combined. Your movies are of a poor quality with poor story line. Nigerian in general are not gifted in art.

South African movie industry on world ranking, is dwarfed by Nigerian nollywood.....live with this fact even if it hurts.

Show us a South African movie made in South Africa wholly by South African actors and creativity, that has made world wide impact across continents on a scale above Nigerian made movies
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Centrifude:
Go to Soweto and see what's going on there, a lot of the shops there aren't registers, there's a huge difference between the profit they make and the rent they pay.

I honestly don't have a problem with people from other countries owning Businesses in S.A.

It becomes a problem when people smuggle goods into the country or don't register their Businesses.

Not even the police know where some of these shops are because the open in random places and prefer to remain hidden, one of the reasons it was so difficult for police to stop the looting is that they don't know the locations of the shops, which makes it almost impossible for the police to protect them.

The informal sector is good when your Business owners sell local products.

My girlfriend is Ghanaian and her father owns, Linen shop and he keeps telling me about how he's friend make a Sh*t load of money from selling Smuggled Goods and not paying Taxes, and that he's always tempted to do the same but he can't because he doesn't want to be seen and another "Foreign Crook" and mainly because his religion doesn't allow it.

So this doesn't just hurt S.A but also hurts other honest African.

It's your failed tax-revenue collection system at the local level in South Africa that you will blame for that, or is it immigrants that will help you build up South African tax collection system? Go fix your tax shït man, ya gotta fücking 3rd world tax system in South Africa
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Patchesagain:
How else does an actor generate income if not through acting?

Do you think someone gave her $100 million from the charity of their own heart?

You want to talk lies? ok:

- Missile armed OPV's
- T80 Oplot
- Tucano
- FH-77 B05 L52
- 40km ranged RH-70's
- Su30
- BVRAM range on PLC-9 missiles
- Otomat Mk2
- "hundreds" of T72s in Nigeria


Your history of lies is well known and well documented

Nobody cares about your white South African actress in Hollywood, even Benin Republic has Djimon Honsou as star in Hollywood hit BLOOD DIAMONDS movie.

Nigeria has Chiwetel Ejiofor as a big Hollywood star that co-stars with Denzel Washington.

We are comparing African made and African created movie industry, who is on top? Nigeria ! South Africans CANNOT create anything close to Nollywood Nigeria.

As for the weapons you listed above, I have answered you many times, you just like dragging this forum back to old topics everytime you get bëaten up in a new argument .

Tucano order replaced by Frogfoot. Oplot stuck in Ukraine due to public complaints. Su-30 still under evaluation with top level secrecy, every other weapon has web link sources posted, websites of military information which I did not create.

So it's easy for you to seek refuge in old stories everytime you get beatën blue black on a new argument.....coward....anointed fraudster
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jln115:
Jap why dont you count up all there net worth and see if the sum = only 30% of Charlize Theron's net worth!

Oh...and while you're at it.....heres another entertaining read:http://www.businessinsider.com/forbes-names-kristen-stewart-highest-earning-actresssee-who-else-made-the-top-10-2012-6?op=1

Dude, we are comparing African movie industry, go back and read how this argument started, it has NOTHING to do with white South Africans in America.

African market movie industry and creativity is the topic you blöckhead
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bidexiii:
Here is a list of successfull nigeria artiste abroad if anyone cares to read -www.imdb.com/list/ls070500412/

Thanks
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mzilakazi:
Arnold Vosloo- proudly South African.

Dude, you have driven this argument off point.

We are comparing home grown African movie industry created by Africans, but you are busy posting American Hollywood actors here.

Please use your head and stay within context.

Nigerian movie industry is number one in Africa and number two in the world....please prove us wrong if you can !
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jln115:
"She's NOT one of the biggest actresses in Hollywood" "the average American movie lover does NOT know her !"
Dude you are so fvcking retarded its not even funny anymore!
Have you ever watched Handcock,Million ways to die in the west,monster ect ect

Read the below link then think again before you ever compare Chiwetel_Ejiofor or any other Nigerian actor to Charlize Theron
http://www.businessinsider.com/forbes-names-kristen-stewart-highest-earning-actresssee-who-else-made-the-top-10-2012-6?op=1

Unfortunately she is NOT known to the average American movie lover. Stop over hyping an average actress. She does not come close to acting leading role with the class of Denzel Washington, she's over hyped by you alone
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mzilakazi:
I don't know the hell one of those guys. I guess they are just extras isn't?

Okay, Eskom load shedding does not allow you to watch movies, so darkness has not allowed you to know Nigerian Chiwetel Ejiofor, he co-stars with Denzel Washington....no South African actor comes that close.

Go buy candles for tonight, today's load shedding in South Africa will be record breaking
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jln115:
WTF!!!!!REALLY WTF!!

SO you have never heard of Charlize Theron(Female BTW)?......She is one of the biggest actresses in hollywood, a oscar winning actress to be exact!!

If you dont know Charlize Theron then you dont know: Brad Pitt, Will smith, Angelina Jolie ect ect

What? have you been living in a cave all your life?.....OH! Wait... you live in Nigeria!...guessing its almost the same as living in a cave!

She's NOT one of the biggest actresses in Hollywood, that's why I watch Netflix and go to movie theatres yet I never came across her, the average American movie lover does NOT know her !

Many Oscar winners exist and many are not big actors, one good movie can win you one Oscar in life and that's the end if you cannot rise beyond Oscar award, you need public fame like Denzel Washington !

Nigeria has Chiwetel as one of the big Hollywood actors who co-star with Denzel Washington.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_Chiwetel_Ejiofor

We are talking about your home grown movie industry NOT America. Show us the richest local actor in South African made movie industry and compare him with the richest in Nigeria.

Even Baba Suwe is richer than an average movies star in South Africa
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Patchesagain:
So now you are back-tracking to re-define what the frontline is?

Straight from a google search:

A front line is the closest position(s) of an armed force's personnel and equipment - generally in respect of maritime or land forces. Forward Line of Own Troops (FLOT), or Forward Edge of Battle Area (FEBA) are technical terms used by all branches of the U.S. armed services.

What you are talking about would colloquially be known as "the front", where-as "the front line" is specifically where your forces are directly facing enemy forces.

Mr Researcher - why dont you know what a frontline is?

Your own source just proved me right !

Frontline includes both troops and equipment together.

You further agreed with me by saying frontline is where you directly face the enemy , exactly what I said, it's where you fire and fired at.

Thanks for proving me right, many thanks bro
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Patchesagain:
Nope.

Read what I said - it may end up on the front lines on occasion.

I dont know if you realize this, but war is fluid front lines may shift 50km in a couple of hours, guns can get caught out of position. Just like a Brigade Commanders HQ may end up coming under direct attack, or a feild hospital getting over-run.


Standard placement for guns is behind the front lines. Allways has been, allways will be.

Why else would they bother giving guns huge ranges?

Pic related, Russian artillery deployment - are they on the frontline or behind it?

They are on the frontline. A distance where you are able to fire and hit your enemy, and he can fire back and hït you, becomes a frontline in war.

Mörön
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Patchesagain:
I think it is fair to say that her net worth is from acting, considering her profession is acting.

Nope, your job is now to defend your nigerian actors.

So you have ZERO proof of all your claims !

You just pulled those words out of your äss hole and posted them on Nairaland.....cool...real cool

@Patches, in a lying and deception competition, I will surrender to you without a fight
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stillchris:
are you contradicting yourself now?

i hope you realize you have just confirmed @agaugust to be right.

sometimes you need to do some research before coming to spread your lies and ignorance here.

it's disgusting.

Patches lies so randomly he forgets what he said on page 5, then on page 10 he contradicts himself, his fraud anointing needs upgrade in that area, however, I admit that he is a gifted liar
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bidexiii:
Pathetic ... SA has only 1 black billionaire;"patrice motsepe, net worth-$2.1 billion" I can now see why they say black SA are lazy how come out of all your billionaires you claim there is only a first,only and the last black billionaire - www.africaranking.com/richest-people-in-africa/8/

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Patchesagain:
Yes no doubt on occasion they will be used in forward echelons

but artillery spends the majority of its time in the rear or in the reserve sector of the front.

Indirect fire versus direct fire.

Okay, you know admit that artillery sits on the front line.

You were trying to deceive this forum some days ago .

Anointed fraudster
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Patchesagain:
Charlize Theron alone has a net worth of $110 million
http://www.bornrich.com/charlize-theron.html

Show us how much he made from movie acting wages and show us the same data for top Nigerian movie actors, that is the only way to prove your wild claims.....show us data comparisons
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saengine:
Notice how they say Seeker 200 UAV is a South African Air Force aircraft. Also like how we have a long range, precision guided munition capability for the Hawks. Something other air forces can only dream of. I sometimes feel sorry for our Hawks, everyone talks about Gripen. But they still carry a massive punch, especially when they get A-Darter this year.


https://admin.denel.co.za/uploads/298eaab0cb5754aef90db422fe0207bf.jpg

It's marketing gimmicks and a confused journalist who has no understanding of SANDF and DENEL marketing methods.

South African air force has NO SINGLE Seeker Drone in service.

Nigeria is the first and only country in Africa to ever use a guided missile armed drone in combat.

NAF is far superior to SAAF in that aspect, you guys have NO air to surface missile in service, you NEVER ordered one.

Hawk jet cannot operate where enemy interceptor jets exist, the Hawk has NO radar , it will be shot down from distance by air superiority jet.

SAAF is a lame duck under the command of an air force chief of staff that has ZERO war experience, we can compare him to Togo Republics chief of air staff
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Patchesagain:
And yet two South Africans have been in bigger movies, been paid more and won more awards than all of your actors combined.

lel

Citations and data needed for the above lies
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Centrifude:
True the problem is that most of their goods are sent in illegally and tax free, and their businesses aren't registered so they don't pay tax like other South Africans, and that's my only problem with all those Businesses.

But its a good thing the government is working on tackling that issue right now.

Blame your Southie government for the poor immigration controls that failed to control illegal immigration.

Blame your South Africa for allowing more legal immigrants than your economy can absorb, all because your government wants to make money from all visa applicant, you just issue visas to anybody any how even if he is potentially a drug pusher.

Blame your ANC government of incompetent blacks and coloreds who cannot operate an effective grass root level tax collection system.

Blame South Africa for being a rotten third world country...have you bought enough candles for tonight? Eskom is about to make you blind again tonight, you will grope in the dark
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Patchesagain:
[size=16pt]Nigerian spending (total values) is readily available as it is public record.

What you spend your money on is a different story and is harder to track. And in anycase, we are talking about budgets here.

But the fact remains:

Nigerian Military Budget: $2.3 Billion (plus a once off $1 billion stimulus)
SANDF Budget: $3,8 Billion EVERY YEAR

Hahahaha, your army is twice as big yet we have allmost twice the budget as you!!

If we spend this much on less men and still consider it not enough, it goes to show how low Nigerian Military standards are![/size]

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Nope, SANDF spends most of it's defense budget on paying fat salaries to lazy soldiers and inexperienced pot belly Generals who see military work as a way out of unemployment and part their BEE Blackman's benefit from ANC government.

The fact is that SIPRI confessed they have no fact about Nigerian military because of secrecy. So your fact is NOT fact, the fact is unknown to the world
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Patchesagain:
[size=13pt]Finally SIPRI confirms Nigeria's military spending:

"Nigeria’s budgeted military expenditure fell in 2014 for the third year running, by 9.3 per cent, to $2.3 billion. Nonetheless, the total is still 79 per cent higher than in 2005, and the budgeted figure does not include a $1 billion loan approved by the Nigerian Congress in October 2014 for military hardware and training to fight the militant group Boko Haram. However, it is debatable whether extra funding for the military on its own will prove effective, given the rampant corruption in the Nigerian armed forces and alleged human rights abuses by Nigerian soldiers that have alienated much of the local population. Such factors have severely impeded the fight against Boko Haram so far,” SIRPI noted


SIPRI quotes the SANDF budget at 3,8 billion.

This is still more than Nigeria's even if you count your once off loan

SANDF is half as big as the Nigerian military yet gets allmost twice the budget!!

Lol!! Who is bankrupt now!?!!?[/size]

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SANDF is the one that is bankrupt.

SIPRI confessed that they do not know all Nigeria's weapons purchases because according to SIPRI, Nigerian military acquisition is largely secretive, so how will they add the value of secret weapons purchases?

I think you have problem with basic logical thinkng.

SIPRI even says they don't know the source of most of Nigeria's T-72 tanks, so they don't even know how many T-72 tanks we have purchased.

Nigeria has turned SIPRI into a lame duck and under-informed entity blinded in the dark room by Nigerian military secrecy .

Meanwhile, SANDF reveals all it's weapons imports and have been confirmed broke by Defenceweb
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