₦airaland Forum

FighterPilot:
Nah!! We've helped the US a lot by the splendid job done by our mercenaries in Iraq. We trained their army and learnt them how to fight insugency, the same way we are doing to your troops. I guess it was now time for them to pay back our favour.

Mercenaries are private men, not SANDF, did your mercenaries fight for you against Seleka in Bangui?

Those mercenaries are not your national army, or they also fly your Gripens and sail your Submarines ?

Many countries have mercenaries, not only you, they are NOT counted as a national military force.

Apartheid mercenaries will NEVER help South Africa in war, they are your sworn enemies who oppressed you in Soweto.

Reason why SANDF paid dollars to Brazil that has zero war experience to train SANDF for war in Congo DRC, why did you not get training from your own experienced mercenaries if they are truly loyal to South Africa? LOL....Private men, not your army....and those guys are enemies of ANC political organization....they are your former tormentors in Soweto !
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Msauza:
[size=16]South Africa=SANDF+SA mercenaries. Bwahahahaha.[/size]

[size=16pt]That's why your mercenaries remain in South Africa, and NONE in Nigeria. Bwahahahaha [/size]

mzilakazi:
[size=16]OH!!! You forgot South African mercenaries.

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[size=16pt] SANDF is NOT = Private Mercenary men

Also, SANDF and NA denied their existence in Nigeria....

Show us their photos, as I showed you American soldiers both current service men and retired mercenaries fighting inside Kruger Park to save SANDF ...

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mzilakazi:
[size=16]I say again, AU will send 7500 troops to Nigeria to fight BH. That is final and is the action which will happen soon unless the world come to an end.[/size]

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LOL....LOLZ...

AU force of 7,500 soldiers drawn only from Nigeria, Benin, Niger, Chad, Cameroon....None from South Africa contrary to your claims last month that SANDF is coming to West Africa to fight Boko Haram


AU force will have only the countries that share borders in NE war zone and each army will be based inside it's own national borders, with mandate to cross only for combat and return to base.

It's an expansion of the size of the same old Multinational Joint Task Force of Nigeria, Chad, Niger, Cameroon, the new entrant is Benin that shares border with us.

Your news is NO NEWS....Sorry o !

SANDF remains an internet spectator with Seleka memories to fear

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/1/31/africa-agrees-to-send-7500-troops-to-fight-boko-haram.html

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mzilakazi:
Viva!! Chad viva!!!

ALL THE HONOUR GOES TO NOBLE CHADIANS WHO RISK THEIR LIVES FOR THE POOR NIGERIANS.

LOL....I replied your fellow retaard above...you make a good retaarded tag team

saengine:
WAIT WAIT WAIT...... ......let me catch my breath from laughing. Whew....wait....i cant breathe

[size=16pt]Chad troops drive Boko Haram out of Nigerian town
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http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2015/01/chad-troops-drive-boko-haram-nigerian-town-150130131849254.html


How embarrassing.....wow . Foreign army fighting alone in your own country to do what you cant.

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Bwhahaha, you cannot breathe? Wow, then you must surely choke !

Did you read that story in full?

Many sources post details, Nigerian air force 3 jet fighters in combat action heavy bombardment over that same town for 3 days, we destroyed all Boko Haram vehicles, armour and heavy equipment....then asked the skinny Chadian army that has no bullet proof vests to go there clean up the crumbs that remain.

Henry120:
DEFENCE HQ NIGERIA @DefenceInfoNGJan 29
The #Nigerian Airforce has also been conducting air mission there for 2 days now. It is all part of the ongoing efforts against terrorism./2
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DEFENCE HQ NIGERIA @DefenceInfoNGJan 29
RE: #Malamfatori is within the Area of Operation covered by the Multinational Joint Task Force of which #Chad has always been a part. /1
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mzilakazi:
You're dreaming

No, you are the dreamer dreaming about imaginary 230 units of Badger IFV since 18 years ago
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andrewza:
We don't have any river we can not build a bridge over.

That's why I said SANDF is an army built to fight only in your homeland....ZERO force projection....and your friends are dreaming to come to NE zone and chase Boko Haram across lake Chad....LOL....all your whole army will drown inside water. LOL

SANDF = Dry land only army
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andrewza:
http://m.ibtimes.com/secret-flow-somali-piracy-ransoms-179-hijacked-ships-generated-some-400m-payments-2005-so-where-has

I said in the last 5 years, you are posting 10 years, and that is ONLY in Somali waters, NOBODY is paying ransom money to pirates in Gulf of Guinea because Nigerian navy SBS will kill them !
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andrewza:
Funny I don't feel broke.

....because the limited money for new SANDF weapons is diverted and paid to you as salary

andrewza:
Whitch R4. The R4 DMR is good for 600m+

SANDF standard issue rifle for your army today is R-4 with max effect range 600m. Fact !

MikeCZAR:
The production facility is already there.

Production might start this year, if qualification for the other vehicles is finished ahead of time.

SANDF has production facility for Mokopa ATGM but you will buy NONE

SANDF has no Rand 10 Billion to pay for Badger IFV, your army will fvck around inside obsolete Ratel IFV until year 2050
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patches689:
Well then, if its not amphibious it has been up-armored and can resist 30mm AP

#Catch22

Catch nothing !

The extra Badger armour is not for the body, it's under-chassis to make it resist IED and mines like an MRAP not 30mm ammo....Fool
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patches689:
So they only exist in towns?

They magically teleport from town A to B and can never be found out in the open?

Clown

Garrisons don't move from town to town ....fool
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patches689:
12 have allready been delivered with 37 more on the way as we speak

The total contract to the consortium is R 8.3 billion. An initial R 1.048 billion order was placed in 2007 to develop a prototype of each variant, followed by 12 pre-production vehicles.


http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/denel-patria-building-south-africas-next-ifv-03317/

Cry more delicious tears

Lol, you need to cry sweet tears for a dream IFV not in service after 18 years delay

There is no 37 Bagders inside factory process as we speak, no money, SANDF is broke ! No 10 Billion Rands to pay, no cash !

Now you say 12 units in service, but three of you Southies just posted this morning that you have only 5 units produced for tests.

You see how dreams can be like hypnotism ?

andrewza:
Proof the badger is garbage.

We have 5 pre producstion Badgers.

5 Badgers at 7 AM today, 12 Badgers at 11 AM today, express factory production of extra 7 units in 4 hours...na like baking bread in oven ?

LOL
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MikeCZAR:
Augubugubu is obsessed with ERA.

Do you know the Ingwe missile can slice through a tank with ERA?

Nigeria's new batch of T-72 M1 tanks arriving from Czech next week have double ERA and 90% capability of a T-90 tank
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andrewza:
Point out my exacted words.

Go and review posts by @Snydergyp and others.

patches689:
Project was frozen until 2007, when it was re-started under Army Vision 2020

The new generation infantry combat vehicle is meant to slot into the SA Army’s Vision 2020, announced earlier in 2007 by Chief of the SA Army, Lt-Gen. Solly Shoke.
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/denel-patria-building-south-africas-next-ifv-03317/

Badger project is a 1997 concept, 18 year old and obsolete. No Bagder in service until 2020
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andrewza:
In a massive factory. Not by army engineers.


ERA is not a upgrade. It a box that gets strapped on. Same has add on armour and slat armour. These are done in Mobil workshops. But a full upgrade of armour is done in a refit no a field workshop.

Your answers are off the point of my question.

I said armies upgrade and change tank armour, simple fact. Stop twisting.

patches689:
fact remains that in the last 100 years America has fought no single war alone

American wars are big, they span large nations and regions, that would involve multiple armies because of alliances and NATO protocol.

SANDF fights tiny wars like the one in Bangui....13 hours is your army's maximum endurance
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MikeCZAR:
Your point?

Do you know what's rust?

Ask me again.

andrewza:
Are your logiscal vehicles amphibious to, no they not. Have fun running out of fuel, food and ammo.

Our APC's include transporters like MT-LB with cabin for logistic supplies, they are amphibious and can shuttle between HQ and FOB

How do you think amphibious armoured brigades get supplies across water? Mumu
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MikeCZAR:
they don't.

Means all the story that SADF recovered damaged Olifant tanks from field and repaired them at home were all lies
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MikeCZAR:
You've brought your entire arsenal against BH, but during open engagements your army units crumble easily.

Entire arsenal? We have not shelled Boko with Howitzers and rocket launchers like we did in Liberia.

Do heavy calibre artillery shelling in Nigeria and kill 5,000 civilians collateral damage, BBC will say 1 million people died
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MikeCZAR:
M23 was inside towns.

...and who was carrying out SEAD on them with high calibre weapons?

M23 was mostly in their bases and camps, they are not terrorists using human shields inside peoples homes and streets.

Empty skull Southie !

MikeCZAR:
the vehicles are developed for the army, with army funding.

They belong to the army.

Part of SA arsenal.

Nope, DENEL funded and owns the Badger. Army only buys finished products.

Did SANDF fund development of Mokopa ATGM and now refuse to buy it, while DENEL has exported same to another country. How many weapons development projects can your broke army afford to fund development and still fund purchases ? Fool .

MikeCZAR:
The project.

Not development of the system.

Many vehicles were offered.

The project defined the concept of the vehicle, reason why the Badger design is an obsolete 18 year old IFV concept
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andrewza:
The project and vechile are 2 difrent Things.

No project no vehicle, two inseparable things.

MikeCZAR:
13 hours!!!

Seleka failing to break SA lines defended by few soldiers.

Your SANDF defence line was found bruised and battered inside French army tent at Bangui airport after 13 hours
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andrewza:
It not a world record. Just a shot that is listed.

World record of top 15 longest sniper kills includes 1,250m....top 15 kills, world record of top 15. Are you blind ?

rka1:
I never expected you to understand. You don't understand what is at stake and what has been ongoing. Do some research for a change.

BTW, the British Army has just set up the 77 Brigade for this kind of warfare on social media etc.

BBC admits they now get Boko Haram Vs NA battlefield reports from....Facebook

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patches689:
90% of terrain infact

Amphib doctrine only really applies to the soviets because of their emphasis on deep operations which meant that mechanised brigades were expected to operate with limited support so they couldent afford to stop and wait for engineers to come and build a bridge - their plan was to launch multiple simulatanious attacks on NATO lines and when they make a hole throw everything they have into that hole with orders to push on until they either run out of fuel or die* - they also focused on avoiding heavily defended areas like river crossings as they knew that NATO weapons superiority would make them too costly to capture.

Its obsolete, and only really needed for Recon assets and Amphibious assault units

*this is also one of the reasons that they were not overly concerned by the fact that the T-72 was a death trap, T-62M's were designed to go toe to toe with allied tanks in initial engagements, T-72's were designed to exploit break-troughs**
** yes, you are now aware that the T-62 is better than the T-72

There are wars across lakes too wide to bridge. In full rainy season and at it's peak, no bridge can span lake Chad, means Nigerian army cannot cross into Chad except by pontoons, like rafts ferrying armour across a huge lake....the enemy on the other side will be picking you off one by one like sitting ducks.

IFV were built amphibious for a good reason, the white man is not a fool like you who thinks it's no good because you have NONE

Nigerian army has about 1,000 amphibious armoured vehicles
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