Valour class has the radar cross section of a missile patrol boat so well done, your tiny corvette has managed to be as stealthy as our huge missile armed frigate - what an achievement
And your stealth ship is pumping huge plumes of IR fumes into the air from its funnels
finally, the statement is nonsensical - your man in china says it has the stealth properties of a 500t vessel, yet somehow at distance it becomes invisible? do all 500t vessels become invisible at distance?
Please stop posting stock promotional footage of actual Type 056 Corvettes firing missiles from a promotional video. Yours has no such capabilities, i have already posted the original video.
Its ok, your Navy is poor - we get it. Maybe if all Nigerians are good this year Santa will deliver a real warship
Patchesagain: Yes - and supply convoys require hundreds of trucks
But now tell me- what will be used as APC's if your MT-LB's are running supplies?
How much capacity does an MT-LB have? How will it transport the stores?
Olodo, supply convoy varies with the size of forward troops it is to resupply, the front line forces could be a platoon or battalion size, supply need varies with size, some truck convoys are just 10 vehicles not hundreds.....fool
Cobra, VBL, BTR-70, Mowag are all amphibious and will become APC, we have over 500 units of those APCs apart from IFVs....fool
MT-LB is built as muti-role including supply transport for 2,000 kg of cargo, you don't have such amphibious transport in the whole of South Africa, and you will NEVER own one in your dry land only army.....fool
"Description. The crew, a driver and a commander/gunner sit in a compartment at the front of the vehicle, with the engine behind them. A compartment at the rear enables up to 11 infantry to be carried or a cargo of up to 2,000 kg. A load of 6,500 kg can be towed. The vehicle is fully amphibious, being propelled by its tracks in the water."
I won't waste time with a fool like you, no more replies, case closed....you are stuck with a dry land only SANDF that Mandela built in error .
Patchesagain: Congradulations on buying redundant equipment
About 14 of SAAF 26 Gripen jets are redundant, and also 44 of the 46 units G-6 Rhino artillery, and about 1,000 units of Ratel IFV, Rooikat TD, and MRAPs of SANDF are all totally redundant in cold storage according to defenceweb....means all those your Gripens and army equipment are bad and should have been sent to scrap metal yard for waste disposal.
andrewza: They not stealth. You can see the mast has straight lines and flat sides. The're are flat surfaces and clutter every where. I would give her a 50% reduction. Yes small but far from tiny. Not to menstio she has no reducstio in thermal.
Please find them. To make you halt I will even post close up shots of her.
andrewza: I posted pics of her, spoke to her crew, meat the Chinese people sailing with and can confirm she is not stealth. Sure not big on the radar. But stealth she is not.
patches689: No augugbugug - it is a civilian grade life raft installed on a military ship because as usual Nigeria is unable to impliment systems properly.
No manufacturer specs say that it is invisible to radar - none at all. Simply looking at the design you can see that it is not stealth - all that deck clutter.
Finally, that is not a video of YOUR OPV being sea tested - that is stock video from a propmotional video for the vessel. No missiles were tested on your vessel, and it is not modular.
Your vessel is not a warship - so stop trying to promote it as such
[size=16pt] Now South African mofos, go home and drink your own urine !
NNS Centenary P18N is a stealth warship invisible to radar at distance.....and modular design tested in sea trials to fire missiles that can be fitted only if needed when war arises
Argentina and Uruguay have expressed interest in buying the combat module of the Nigerian navy stealth ship ![/size]
"During an interview, Major-General Yin Zhuo made particular mention of the vessel's stealth performance.
On the stealth performance of F91, Yin Zhuo pointed out that the ship's bows lean slightly inward, and bevels are superimposed on the upper part of the deck; as a result, the radar reflection points are few and the radar image is small. He pointed out that an 1,800-ton ship with stealth capacity will have the radar reflection area of a ship of about 500 tons; it can be discovered only when it is very close to the radar of enemy, and cannot be observed if an appropriate distance is kept from the enemy radar."
mzilakazi: Your minister was telling lies just to gun an easy political targets for President badluck Jonathan. SA is not modeling Nigeria in anything. How can we ever model a country which has itself failed in power sector? I guess he scored cheap political points for his lousy uninformed speech.
You Southies survive on daily dosage of Candles to keep you alive .
Patchesagain: I am smart enough to know that the T-72M1 is Russian
I am smart enough to know that the picture you posted is of a Slovakian turret
I am smart enough to know that the Czech do not operate the T-72M1
Like the reporter who wrote that erroneous artical - you know nothing
You were just google searching random stuff and general info, this transaction is special .
You were not smart enough to know the T-72 M1 sale was Russian made tanks gathered together from several different armies of different countries of origin and sold to Nigeria by a Czech company ......you are a dumbo domingo that cannot analyse a complex transaction
"Soviet-made tanks T-72 M1 and 16 other vehicles, BMP armored infantry fighting vehicles and rocket launchers to an African country, its spokesman Andrej Čírtek told the paper. Čírtek said the heavy arms come from sales of redundant equipment of the armies of the former Warsaw Pact countries. Czech Defense and Security Industry Association head Jiří Hynek confirmed that the destination is Nigeria."
Henry120: Keep making this silly comment. A couple guys with dane guns and machete are doing most of the fighting against an enemy armed with AA guns, PKM's, RPG's and AK-47's?
You see how ridiculous you are.
He also thinks Civilian JTF was flying Alpha jets, Mi-35 Helicopter gunships, and driving T-72 tanks....Moronns aplenty in South Africa .
Patchesagain: O wow, Nigeria fought alone in civil wars... totally relevant
#ShowUsNigeriaFightingAloneAbroad
Dafur half battalion troops Nigerian army Vs Sudanese Janhaweed. Attack on base at night.
Historic battle we won.
ECOMOG wars were 99% Nigerian military and we had 100% command and control for 10 years. Show we where South African military matched that size of force, total command, and years of combat experience ! .
Patchesagain: According to this map of Boko Haram activity there is practically no major water obsticals in the AO
So, I am not quite sure what your point was.
And we dont have force projection? Ask the Angolans about our force projection
Your favourite Boko Haram control map was torn into pieces finally yesterday, Boko Haram has been flushed down the toilet in Gwoza and several other towns....Hell is full of burning Boko souls as we speak
EVarn: NIGERIAN TROOPS RECAPTURES GWOZA,BAGA,MARTE,KUKAWA,AND DIKWA FROM BOKO HARAM !!!!
Nigerian troops have recaptured gwoza{the heart of boko haram caliphate},baga,marte,kukawa and dikwa towns in borno state.according to a senior official of the nigerian army,only bama,banki and chibok in borno state,and madagali in adamawa state are still in the hands of boko haram.
Those SF men were inside South Africa, whatever name the park is, American service men and old mercenaries came to save South Africa from Rhino poachers.....where were your own famous SADF apartheid old mercenaries that you say the whole world wants to employ but your own country does not want to employ them when SANDF has failed....you went for Yankee soldiers invading South Africa in broad daylight to save you at home
Patchesagain: You only have 67 MT-LB's - that is no where enough to support an armored brigade.
SANDF has ZERO amphibious transport, we have 67....enough cargo for 50 tanks that cross a river, the tanks carry their own supplies and full tank fuel, only need little supplies till operation is over, then 67 MT-LB can go back and forth ferrying supplies weekly, that is how standard army logistics supply chain work....fool
EVarn: mumu,south african mercenaries indeed.it was the work of our newly trained special forces who were deployed in the on~going counter attack against boko haram.
We have new SF 1,500 men with COIN training from Russia.
Also a new 5,000 man COIN Brigade with mixed training home and abroad.
The guys have started work, plus regular NA itself was waiting for the massive arrival of new weapons to launch the long awaited FINAL OFFENSIVE and it has started now !!!!! .
mzilakazi: So Nigerian military is not fighting alone. Wow!!!
Boko Haram is NOT in Nigeria alone, they are in Chad and Cameroon. You need other countries to stop them from escaping across borders to rest. rearm, reinforce and cross border again to come back....common sense is missing for your head, such war will involve all countries where Boko Haram has camps and bases.
Anyway, South Africa has ZERO war experience as SANDF today.
- mobility - skill - a lack of corruption - moral - motivation - basic equipment - functional equipment
For example, look at what the AU has done in Somalia with a much smaller force against an enemy that held a much larger area and was not only well funded but well entrenched
Your army is incompetent, poorly motivated, rife with corruption and lacks complete and utter tactical nuance.
With regards to COIN, SANDF and many African countires (Uganda, Kenya, Tanzania, South Africa, Angola, elements of the DRC army, Chad) have either COIN experience or are well versed in COIN training.
Furthermore, COIN is no longer the type of war you are fighting. You are now fighting LICW.
Your inability to defeat BH in LICW shows (yet again) what a lame duck your military is.
And as to your implication that it will be led by Nigerians... why the hell would anyone let a man that cannot even successfully lead his own troops lead theirs?
Just sit back and wait, AU is coming to bail you out.
The AU force is Nigeria itself, plus Chad, Cameroon, Niger, and Benin....the same old Multinational force with Benin added as we all share borders......The SANDF force you boasted about is MISSING in the AU team.....your military reputation is too poor to qualify
The armies you mentioned as COIN experienced, Bwahahhaha....
South Africa....beaten by Rhino poachers, and humiliated by Seleka teenagers....one single ANC man used bicycle to rubbish SADF at home.
Uganda.....LRA terrorists kindapped thousands of Ugandan boys and girls gone missing forever in Uganda
Kenya....El-Shabab is rubbing Kneya's face in the mud inside Nairobi capital city while Kenyan army steals jewelry from hostage victims
Angola, Tanzania, Chad, DRC congo have never had real Islamic terrorist invasion, they had rebels that were well defined and visible.
Meanwhile, the AU force is Nigeria plus neighbours.....each force based inside it's own borders, only able to cross for combat and return, or do joint operations.....same old multi-national force now called AU force.....The hopes of you South Africans is dashed into pieces, you were expecting foreign troops to be deployed from all over Africa into Nigerian territory....LOL....I laugh at your miserable disappointment.....Nigeria is too big and too strong for what you imagined should happen...Sorry about your shattered dreams
Gamborou Ngala, Malam Fatori, Michika, may have been captured by Chadian, Cameroonian and Nigerian troops Senator Iroegbu in Abuja
A major coordinated military onslaught against Boko Haram has commenced. While Chadian and Cameroonian troops are approaching Nigeria from the borders, Nigerian troops are moving northward from inside.
The result is that several towns and villages previously controlled by Boko Haram have been retaken given the new fire power of the Nigerian and Chadian troops.
This may have followed a meeting in N'Djamena last week, THISDAY has learnt.
There is also heavy fighting going on in Gwoza, it is gathered. Nigerian troops have taken Michika and have surrounded Gulak, while Chadians have surrounded Gwoza. The latest successes recorded have been attributed to the arrival of new arms and the use of special forces.
According to military sources, the plan is to recapture all territories so that people can vote. The military campaign is being carried out simultaneously by troops from the three countries targeting insurgents’ positions.
Gamborou Ngala and Malam Fatori may have also been recaptured in the ongoing expedition by the troops from the three countries.
Though no official confirmation of the successes recorded has been received from the military, eyewitness accounts of villagers fleeing the battle zone said many towns and villages along that axis were being retaken.
The deadly sect has continued to suffer defeat in recent days following the renewed onslaught by the military to recapture seized towns in the North-east. The Defence Headquarters had on Friday confirmed the recapture of Michika, one of the towns in Adamawa seized by Boko Haram months ago.
The impact of yesterday’s operation was felt in Maiduguri as heavy sound of artillery emanating from the city suburb were heard by residents of the city in the early hours of Saturday. Some of the residents said they heard sound from heavy weapons about 5.30am and that it lasted till about mid-day.
"I heard the first sound. I initially thought it was an explosion but another one followed few minutes later. It continued till about 11.30am," said Malam Ismaila Mohammad, a resident of the city.
The Chadian air force had earlier bombed Gamboru in an effort to drive out Boko Haram militants and allow troops from Chad to enter the northeastern town. Fighter jets then bombed areas around the town, which is located near Lake Chad along the border with Cameroon. The airstrikes by Chadian forces followed similar bombings earlier in the week intended to displace Boko Haram from parts of the country it has overtaken. The latest onslaught against Boko Haram is coming on the heels of the agreement from regional leaders from Nigeria, Chad, Cameroon and Niger to adopt a coordinated response to the threat posed by the deadly group which has killed about 13,000 people and displaced over one million others.
The military offensive by the three countries marks a new phase in the anti-terror war between Nigeria and its neighbours and may have set Boko Haram on the path of defeat in the captured border towns. The African Union Peace and Security Council at its 484th meeting, held on January 29 at the level of Heads of State and Government had also adopted a resolution to establish an initial 7,500 troops to combat the Boko Haram insurgents.
The resolution was sequel to a proposal presented to the council by countries in the Lake Chad Basin Commission (LCBC) and the Republic of Benin.
The LCBC countries - Nigeria, Cameroon, Niger and Chad - made the proposal for the continent to raise troops that could defeat the terrorist group currently expanding to borders of Cameroon and Chad.
But military authorities have said that they were yet to get the technical details of the African Union (AU) endorsed plan for a regional task force of 7,500 troops to fight the Boko Haram terrorists in Northeastern Nigeria.
According to a top military source, the decision is still at the political level and is yet to get the technical input of the military planners, especially the Nigerian security forces to determine the term of its operation.
The source said that military had not decided if the proposed force will hold territory or be actively involved in combat operations against the Islamists.
"The issues of AU mission is still a political one, that is why you see that nobody is speaking to you from the Defence Headquarters (DHQ) .
"They cannot comment on it because the military is yet to be fully briefed, and it will remain so until the technical details are worked out and endorsed by our own government. It is then we can begin to operate on that basis", the source said.
It could be recalled that the AU leaders during the Peace and Security Council (PSC) meeting last week agreed to raise a force of 7,500 to bring to an end the activities of Boko Haram.
The meeting presided over by President Alpha Conde of Guinea, said the effort would end the militants, who recently expanded their attacks to the borders of Lake Chad region of Cameroon, Chad and Niger.
According to the report by the News Agency of Nigeria (NAN), Nigeria, Cameroon, Niger, Chad and Benin had earlier in the month requested the AU to seek UN Security Council’s mandate for their plan to take on insurgents who are allegedly fighting to create an Islamic state in northern Nigeria.
The AU commissioner for Peace and Security Council, Mr. Smail Chergui,told reporters on the sidelines of an African summit in Addis Ababa shortly after the meeting: “We are thinking of a force of 7,500 women and men which will be submitted to the U.N. Security Council for approval.’’
Chergui hoped that the concept of the force would be better organised and “we can achieve the goal that we are looking for to really stop the killings and these barbaric acts of Boko Haram.’’
He said the African group would meet in Cameroon early February “to draw up a concept of operations and strategy, rules of engagement, command and control, and related issues.’’
According to the arrangement, each of the five nations would contribute a battalion with each contingent to base within its national borders, with operations to be coordinated from Chad.
The report also noted that the endorsement is expected to be ratified at the AU Assembly of Heads of State and Government scheduled for Friday morning at the Union headquarters in Addis Ababa.
Meanwhile, the Director of Defence Information (DDI), Maj-Gen. Chris Olukolade, while responding to THISDAY inquiries, said the issues will be handled by the relevant authorities and would be communicated accordingly. Olukolade however assured that the existing arrangement with the Mulitnational Joint Task Force (MTJF) involving Nigerian, Chadian, Camerounian and Nigerien troops will continue their offensive to liberate the territories held by Boko Haram
FighterPilot: I also haven't seen a single picture of SA mercenary in Iraq and Afghanistan but I know for sure that thousands and thousands of SA left the army and went there. So in the case of Nigeria let us wait and see, perhaps someone might see them in Nigeria and publish their image.
USA did not deny using South African mercenaries in Iraq.
Now both SANDF and Nigeria deny South African mercenaries and you have no photo to prove them wrong....then your case collapses .