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patches689:
Biafran rebel airforce humiliated the Nigerian airforce

Biafra itself is Nigeria in a break away.

The war was Nigeria North and West Vs Nigeria East.

We fought against ourselves and both sides were good fighters, as both sides are the same Nigeria with same training.

Cuba sent virgin girls to massacre South Africa
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MikeCZAR:
The Cytoon system can do ISTAR.

The Agusta A109 can do ISTAR.

The ratel-EOAS can do ISTAR

And many more.

One single NAF ATR-42 will do more than all SAAF so called mumbo jumbo ISTAR aircraft combined.

SAAF ISTAR power is 66 years behind NAF.

MikeCZAR:
Army guide says the SA army has the G6-52L, which has a range of 73km.

South African army official website denies it, they say only 39km max range is available to SANDF
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mzilakazi:
Nigeria has never experienced air to air combat throughout its existence

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South African Gripen and Hawk jets have NEVER experienced any air to air combat since you purchased them about 7 years ago.

Nigerian air force has constant air to ground attack and close combat air support regularly for the past 20 years till today as we speak !

NAF jets have flown thousands of air to ground combat sorties in the last 20 years, SAAF jets flew NOTHING .

https://newtelegraphonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/naf-Alpha-Jet.jpg
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patches689:
So, the pods we used on the Cheetah has magically dissipated? They just evaporated?

Yes, the Cheetah jet's missiles evaporated out of service, and so did their targeting pods.

Simple common sense.

patches689:
Where do they say that?

In the latest report the launch is scheduled for next year

Russia says for an unnamed customer, NOT South Africa, so until then...SANDF is a blind bat with no satellite for strategic level of intelligence like Nigeria..

SANDF = BAT

[img]http://oels.byu.edu/student/idioms/idioms/images/blind_bat.gif[/img]

mzilakazi:
Then show it for us to see.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnrNcd263j8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNrKGppmV_Q
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patches689:
President Eisenhower approved the program in March 1960. The CIA set up training camps in Guatemala, and by November the operation had trained a small army for an assault landing and guerilla warfare

The original invasion plan called for two air strikes against Cuban air bases. A 1,400-man invasion force would disembark under cover of darkness and launch a surprise attack. Paratroopers dropped in advance of the invasion would disrupt transportation and repel Cuban forces. Simultaneously, a smaller force would land on the east coast of Cuba to create confusion.

The main force would advance across the island to Matanzas and set up a defensive position. The United Revolutionary Front would send leaders from South Florida and establish a provisional government. The success of the plan depended on the Cuban population joining the invaders.

The first mishap occurred on April 15, 1961, when eight bombers left Nicaragua to bomb Cuban airfields. The CIA had used obsolete World War II B-26 bombers, and painted them to look like Cuban air force planes. The bombers missed many of their targets and left most of Castro's air force intact. As news broke of the attack, photos of the repainted U.S. planes became public and revealed American support for the invasion. President Kennedy cancelled a second air strike.

On April 17, the Cuban-exile invasion force, known as Brigade 2506, landed at beaches along the Bay of Pigs and immediately came under heavy fire. Cuban planes strafed the invaders, sank two escort ships, and destroyed half of the exile's air support. Bad weather hampered the ground force, which had to work with soggy equipment and insufficient ammunition.
The Counterattack

Over the next 24 hours, Castro ordered roughly 20,000 troops to advance toward the beach, and the Cuban air force continued to control the skies. As the situation grew increasingly grim, President Kennedy authorized an "air-umbrella" at dawn on April 19—six unmarked American fighter planes took off to help defend the brigade's B-26 aircraft flying. But the B-26s arrived an hour late, most likely confused by the change in time zones between Nicaragua and Cuba. They were shot down by the Cubans, and the invasion was crushed later that day.

Some exiles escaped to the sea, while the rest were killed or rounded up and imprisoned by Castro's forces. Almost 1,200 members of Brigade 2056 surrendered, and more than 100 were killed.
http://www.jfklibrary.org/JFK/JFK-in-History/The-Bay-of-Pigs.aspx


lol, it seems you dont know your American history.

Its a new day and I have exposed a new lie from augugbugug*

*I am actually just going to chalk this one up to augugbuggugs poor education and general ignorance

Long story, still proves my point, USA has NEVER attacked Cuba with American military, NEVER in history.

Only Cubans fought the battle in that coup plot. No American military ever attacked Cuba because we fear USSR military intervention.

Cuban exiled civilians trained by CIA, the CIA is a civilian agency NOT American military.

Still the fact remains that Bay Of Pigs was a Civilian Coup Detat that failed and ended in 3 days, it is no war !

Same thing happened in Lesotho and you called it a war, an ordinary coup detat , fool

Nigeria has dozens of such coup detat that we have not posted here as wars, yet it involved infantry, armour, and air/sea military blockades

A coup detat is not a war, when war is declared the world knows there is a war and it is sustained as a war !

They beautiful Cuban girls that defeated SADF were not even born at the time of that coup, they had ZERO war experience when they fought and beat up South African military in Angola.

SADF beaten blue black by young virgin Cuban girls

Butt Hurt Patches
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patches689:
8 B26 Bombers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Pigs_Invasion

You dont know that the CIA trains military forces... fool. They were formed into a Brigade of Cuban exiles
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigade_2506

You are wasting our time. I am not here to educate you. Learn about what we are talking about before you come here.

Total rubbish !

See what your own source says, the B-26 Bombers were NOT doing anything, American history tells me as an American that we NEVER b.ombed Cuba and NEVER fought war with Cuba because we fear USSR intervention.

Cuban coup plotters bombed an airfield once, same B-26 Bombers that Biafra used for a whole one year and you said it means nothing, so how does it now mean something when Cuban coup plotters used it for one hour?

NAF officer Luther and officer Ekele tried the same coup detat with Alpha jets but were stopped before take off to go bomb President Babangida !

If coup detat is a war, then we have plenty of war history in Nigeria involving use of tanks by opposing sides of many coup plots we have in a period of over 20 years, so have we ever brought that here as a war?

Fool !

"Also on 14 April 1961, a Cubana airliner was hijacked and flown to Jacksonville, Florida; resultant confusion then helped discovery of the staged 'defection' of a B-26 and pilot at Miami on 15 April."

Your own source says the above and also adds a support to my point, Bay Of Pigs was a civilian coup plot and civilian action, see yoru source talking about airliner h.ijack, is that a war?

Bay Of Pigs was a 3 day civilian coup detat and not a war ! FACT !

Fool !

Teenage Cuban girls born when Cuba had no war and trouble, born and grew with ZERO war experience, these girls defeated South African military with all the SADF special forces, recces, buffalo battalion that was nicknamed ' Terrible Defeated Ones '...Shame Shame South Africa !

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patches689:
Doesnt say anything about a Radar satellite.

Butt Hurt

"The Embassy of the Republic of Korea contacted the agency to help rescue the vessel, which is owned by its national. Consequently, in a swift operation coordinated by Capt. Warredi Enisuoh, NIMASA’s Director of Shipping Development, the agency’s newly-built satellite surveillance system with cloud-penetrating radar capabilities was brought to bear and the incident was resolved within six hours.
The NIMASA team, working with the Nigerian Navy and the Nigerian Air Force, which used air and sea patrols, was said to have quickly put up a response and reception plan that forced the hijackers to abandon their mission and flee."

http://sunnewsonline.com/new/?p=67003

Nigeria has radar satellite, world's newest technology, proved.

Butt Hurt
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patches689:
hahahahahahahahaha

Nigeria as a country is more than 100 years behind South Africa

Call us when you have a national road network

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patches689:

We dont have all our Gripen in the same place at the same time.

#ShowUsF-7'sInTheSky

We too don't have all our F-7 in the same place at the same time
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patches689:
No, Bay of Pigs involved 1,500 CIA trained atackers who had airsupport in the form of heavy bombers

Another day, another lie exposed

And what about the 5 other wars they fought before Angola?

Clown

Which bombers? USAF bombed Cuba? Lol, show me source for that.

US will bomb Cuba, and USSR will not intervene? Go read up Cuban missile crisis, how USSR based nuclear missiles in Cuba and pointed them at USA directly at close range. Fool

CIA is not military, they are espionage, you just proved it was a coup detat with police and secret service men in political tussle

You don't know that CIA is a civilian force by US law, Fool
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patches689:
Nope, it is in service
http://www.saairforce.co.za/the-airforce/weapons/82/vicon-18-601e

Behaving like a child is not going to win this argument for you

Nope, it is Cheetah pod, cleared for Hawk, but show us prove its in use.

It's another Mokopa, cleared for Rooivalk, NOT in use
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patches689:
So what is your point?

The South African satellite that is more advanced than the Nigerian one has been delayed?

Ok, whatever.

Btw, just one page ago you were saying that the order had been cancelled!

Showing your strongest two traits: Back-pedaling and goal-post shifting.

Show us photo of South African satellite, Russia says they don't even know you, Liar !!!

https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/X3.jpg.

mzilakazi:
Jealousy makes people to be irrelevant. SA are the owners of Kondor-E, a synthetic aperture radar (SAR) satellite which Nigeria does not have.

Russia says it has NOT launched any satellite for South Africa, they disowned you in their current report
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mzilakazi:
I will bite my elbow should Nigeria ever find itself more advanced that SA in development and technology.

Nigeria does not have a radar satellite nor even to speak of military satellite.

Now don't just bite your elbow, break it with a sledge hammer...

"The Embassy of the Republic of Korea contacted the agency to help rescue the vessel, which is owned by its national.

Consequently, in a swift operation coordinated by Capt. Warredi Enisuoh, NIMASA’s Director of Shipping Development, the agency’s newly-built satellite surveillance system with cloud-penetrating radar capabilities was brought to bear and the incident was resolved within six hours.

The NIMASA team, working with the Nigerian Navy and the Nigerian Air Force, which used air and sea patrols, was said to have quickly put up a response and reception plan that forced the hijackers to abandon their mission and flee."

http://sunnewsonline.com/new/?p=67003

Nigeria is 100 years ahead of South Africa....Proved

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mzilakazi:
Key Points
It has been confirmed that South Africa will
acquire a military satellite, believed to be a
Russian Kondor-E with a SAR capability
There are indications South Africa will be able to
independently control the satellite
South African Secretary for Defence Sam Gulube
confirmed during testimony to the parliamentary
defence committee on 22 October that the project
to acquire a military satellite is continuing.
Gulube said the cost of the unidentified military
satellite had increased by ZAR213 million (USD19
million) due to foreign exchange issues, but that
it was "now on track". The South African National
Defence Force (SANDF) subsequently told
journalists that all details of the project were
classified.


http://www.janes.com/article/45218/south-africa-s-military-satellite-back-on-track


Note that the cost was increased because SA will now control the satellite independently.

You guys are just fvcking liars in South Africa, the story puts 'back on track' in inverted commas meaning NOT CERTAIN, NOT WHAT IT SEEMS TO BE...


Fvcking Soweto liars, South African liar government official said the satellite was launched in 2014, but Janes saya no, it is delayed to 2015, if it ever gets launched.

mzilakazi:
Unfortunately the satellite has already been paid for in cash. Last month the secretary of defence admitted before the parliament that Kondor-E spy satellite was built for SANDF intelligence and that it was a secret project.

He told the parliament that it was to be launched this year. Many believe it has already been launched.

Your Soweto parliament is just deceiving itself, better call accounts auditors to go trace that money you said they paid, some stealing is going on in your corrupt ANC government.

Also says the Russians did NOT say South Africa is the buyer, so no proof it is South African sale, reason why Janes put the topic in inverted commas....'back on track'....NOT sure !

"Russia's Interfax-AVN news agency subsequently cited a source as saying the launch of the Kondor-E for an unidentified foreign customer had been delayed for at least several months due to "technical and organisational reasons". It reported in August that the launch had been postponed again to 2015 because Russia and Kazakhstan had failed to reach an agreement"

South Africa is 100 years behind Nigeria
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mzilakazi:
@Agaugust it doesn't matter, your satellites are not all weather, day and night capable spy satellites. They are only good to be used as research tools by both military and civilians. I will never be deceived by you when it comes to technology. I am in possession of an N6 diploma in Mechanical engineering and am currently furthering my engineering studies with unisa.

Fool, radar satellite, radar is all weather and night-day. That's why we added this new radar satellite

Fool, Butt Hurt, Nigeria ia more advanced than South Africa .


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mzilakazi:
Unfortunately the satellite has already been paid for in cash. Last month the secretary of defence admitted before the parliament that Kondor-E spy satellite was built for SANDF intelligence and that it was a secret project. He told the parliament that it was to be launched this year. Many believe it has already been launched.

Fake story with no proof. No source confirms the sale. You cannot buy satellites in secret and the whole world does not know.

The only existing story is that the sale was cancelled with good reason stated.

Russia won't sell a spy satellite secretly to South Africa without reporting the sale to UN as required by international law.

Okay, Nigeria has 100 secret nuclear missiles purchased from Russia in 2014. How about that?

Anyway, Russia has robbed South Africa of millions of dollars, President Putin is using the satellite he robbed you of, to fight Ukraine in Crimea

South Africa is 100 years behind Nigeria....Butt Hurt
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mzilakazi:
Those satellites are not spy satellites. They are used for earth observation for agricultural purpose, monitoring aftermath of natural disasters, communication and internet coverage. They have nothing to do with military. I thought you were educated in the use of satellites when you raised this subject and I told you that I doubt if Nigeria has a spy satellite. Your satellites are dependant on weather.

Butt hurt

Fool, earth observation satellites don't care who operates them, they just do the job and reveal secrets.

Nigeria has more than what I posted, we just added a brand new state-of-the art radar satellite that NO COUNTRY has in all Africa.

South African military is 100 years behind Nigerian military is strategic and tactical surveillance and ISTAR.



BUSINESS DAY June 2014.


It will no longer be business as usual for pirates, sea robbers, and perpetrators of other criminalities on the Nigerian territorial waters as the Nigerian Maritime Administration and Safety Agency (NIMASA) has commenced operations of its satellite surveillance system.

The surveillance satellite system which commenced operations last week is aimed at helping the nation in capturing the presence of any vessel that calls Nigeria’s exclusive economic zone (EEZ), which extends about 200 nautical miles seawards from the coasts of Nigeria.

According to industry close watchers, the satellite system would go a long way in minimising criminal activities that are harmful to the economy, such as oil theft, illegal oil refineries and illegal bunkering in the nation’s maritime domain.

In a statement signed by Isichei Osamgbi, deputy director, public relations of NIMASA, and made available to BusinessDay recently, the agency said putting the satellite system to use has enabled it, in conjunction with the Nigerian Navy and the Nigerian Air Force, to successfully rescue a Ghanaian fishing vessel, known as ‘Marine 711’, from suspected hijackers.

The Ghana-registered vessel was reportedly hijacked off the coast of Ghana and sailed across Togo and Benin Republic to Nigerian waters when the Embassy of the Republic of Korea contacted the agency to help rescue the vessel, which is owned by its national. The Ghanaian Fisheries Authority and the operators of the fishing vessel joined in requesting NIMASA to bring the incident to a logical conclusion.

In a swift operation coordinated by Warredi Enisuoh, NIMASA’s director of shipping development, the agency’s newly-built satellite surveillance system, which is also made up of ‘Cloud Penetrating Radar’ capabilities, was brought to bear and the incident was resolved within six hours.

Revealing further, the NIMASA boss said the agency’s team, working with the Nigerian Navy and the Nigerian Air Force, which used sea and air patrols surveillance, respectively, quickly put up a response and reception plan which led to the hijackers abandoning their mission and fleeing.

“The new 24-hour Surveillance Centre has the capability to detect boats, ships and objects of predefined cross-section floating on water. This includes any aircraft that ditches and remains on the surface during satellite over-flight,” the agency explained.

“Its abilities further includes but not limited to setting range rings and restricted areas for which when penetrated by an intruder, the system gives an alarm thereby alerting the operator and watch-keeper,” it further said.

As regards the rescue operation, Ziakede Patrick Akpobolokemi, director general, NIMASA, expressed satisfaction with the cooperation shown by all parties to the rescue operation, noting that the agency would continue to utilise cutting-edge technology and partnership with the military to secure Nigerian waters from the hands of criminals for enhanced international trade.

mzilakazi:
Kondor-E military spy satellite belongs to SA- Confirmed.

http://russianspaceweb.com/kondor-e.html

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Fool

The project was cancelled because.....

"However, around 2007, the South-African government froze Project Flute after the nation's officials had realized that the full control over the satellite and its data would remain in Russian hands and South Africa would depend entirely on NPO Mash for the spacecraft operation. Such an arrangement would likely result in a significant delay of the access to imagery by military users in South Africa after the pictures had been snapped in orbit.



In response to the closure of the project, NPO Mashinostroenia threatened with a legal action, probably demanding a compensation for already incurred expenses. Moreover, the scandal around Kondor-E threatened to derail a planned launch of the South-African Sumbandila satellite on a Russian submarine-based missile. (The satellite was eventually launched by the Russian civilian space agency, Roskosmos). The situation also led to demands within the South African parliament to investigate the affair."

Eventually Russia took over the satellite, swallowed South Africa's money, and launched the Satellite for Russian use. Ripped off Mandela !


LOL

We see South Africans desperate to claim a satellite, because Nigeria has 3

LOL

We see South Africans desperate to claim 1 satellite, because Nigeria has 3

LOL

We see South Africans desperate to claim 1 satellite, because Nigeria has 3

LOL

We see South Africans desperate to claim 1 satellite, because Nigeria has 3

https://allafrica.com/download/pic/main/main/csiid/00190070:3a9d21697dd8a8a58db3994bcdbf41e7:arc614x376:w614:us1.png


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mzilakazi:
Nigeria has zero military spy satellite. All Nigeria's satellites are used for disaster management, communication and internet services. People, there is nothing special about Nigeria's satellites.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn24025-how-nigeria-has-been-using-its-satellites.html

NEWS AGENCY OF NIGERIA
May 18, 2012
Abuja


NigeriaSat-2,one of four Nigerian satellites(NigeriaSat-1,NigeriaSat-X and NIGCOMSAT-1R) in orbit.

Nigeria would launch a locally manufactured satellite and in 2025 develop rocket and propulsion system. “In 2026 we have allies in electronics and software involved in space technology, and in 2028 we would now launch a Nigeria made satellite.”

Ewa enumerated the achievements of the ministry to include the launch of two low earth observation satellites – NigeriaSat-2 and NigeriaSat-X as well as a communication satellite-NigComSat-1R. He also said a rocketry was successfully launched on Wednesday in Epe, Lagos, while about 40 doctors and 60 masters degree holders had been trained in space technologies.

“100 personnel from the military who have been trained in space applications this year are now ready to be involved in surveillance satellite project.”
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patches689:
Cuba entered Angola in 1975
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_intervention_in_Angola

South Africa's first incursion into Angola was the same year - 1975
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Savannah_(Angola)

Police handled the insurgency in Northern Namibia until 1974, only then did the SADF take direct command
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_Border_War

And before then, Cuban soldiers fought in:


A 5 year civil war
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Revolution

The bay of pigs - involved 240 000 men
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Pigs_Invasion

Cuban soldiers had also seen combat in

- Congo Crisis
- Bolivia Insurgency
- Eritrean War
- Yom Kippur War

So, what was it you were saying?

All your post is rubbish.

Cuban Bay Of Pigs was a civil revolt, a failed coup detat see your source mentioned thousands of policemen in action

About 150 men armed came ashore to overthrow a government they hate.

The whole fight was 99% civilians vs police.

The whole Bay Of Pigs coup detat crisis ended in about 3 days of civil disobedience, is that a war ?

Liar of Gauteng

South Africa was defeated by teenage Cuban girls that have not even fought their boyfriends in school, talk less of a war experience.

[img]http://2.bp..com/-tJkj1BKs4D4/UFpiMJFgHKI/AAAAAAAAEQM/t1_2SSgYHWY/s1600/women-of-the-cuban-revolution.jpg[/img]
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patches689:
Why then are we able to have 14 Gripen in the air at any one time?

Nigeria only has 2 airworthy F-7's

We win again.

Liar ! Big Liar !! The highest number of SAAF Gripens in the air at one time is only 8.

Why did the NAF air marshal in your own source tell Janes Defense than Nigeria has 11 operational F-7 jets?

South Africa has only 1 airworthy Gripen jet

We win again.

patches689:
Why then are we able to have 14 Gripen in the air at any one time?

Nigeria only has 2 airworthy F-7's

We win again.

South Africa has only 1 airworthy Gripen jet

We win again.

andrewza:
Diffreince is the Hawk is cleard to use a pod. And the Hawks FLIR is not the same has your hinds FLIR.

NAF F-7 and Alpha jets are cleared to use the manufacturer specified targetingpods, but we don't have them, but the Pakistanis and the French do have.
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patches689:
South Africa has 1 sattelights

Nigeria's sattelights are not military grade

South Africa has ZERO satellites.

Nigerian satellites are operated and controlled by 100 military officers with relevant masters and doctoral degrees...


NEWS AGENCY OF NIGERIA
May 18, 2012
Abuja


NigeriaSat-2,one of four Nigerian satellites(NigeriaSat-1,NigeriaSat-X and NIGCOMSAT-1R) in orbit.

Nigeria would launch a locally manufactured satellite and in 2025 develop rocket and propulsion system. “In 2026 we have allies in electronics and software involved in space technology, and in 2028 we would now launch a Nigeria made satellite.”

Ewa enumerated the achievements of the ministry to include the launch of two low earth observation satellites – NigeriaSat-2 and NigeriaSat-X as well as a communication satellite-NigComSat-1R. He also said a rocketry was successfully launched on Wednesday in Epe, Lagos, while about 40 doctors and 60 masters degree holders had been trained in space technologies.

“100 personnel from the military who have been trained in space applications this year are now ready to be involved in surveillance satellite project.”

andrewza:
Hawk over priced? It is list has the lowest running cost advance jet trainer.

Unlike your hind the hawk can use Radar of 3rd pary sytems though.

There is a big difference between receiving information about a target's location and having a fvcking 3km short range FLIR to lock-on and fire weapons at the same target
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patches689:
F-7 is obsolete and largely grounded:
"Right now in the Nigerian Air Force we have equipment that is obsolete and with a low [availability]," - Nigerian Aiforce spokesman
http://www.janes.com/article/45858/nigeria-wants-to-procure-scorpion-isr-and-light-attack-jet


Pakistan does your maintenance for you, and trains your pilots:

The Pakistan Air Force is assisting the Nigerian Air Force with maintenance and training for its F-7 fighter jets and in building the Nigerian Air Force’s capacity.

Pana reports that Pakistani Air Force personnel are present in Nigeria working to maintain Nigerian aircraft. Two Pakistani pilots are providing technical assistance for the Air Force’s Chinese-built F-7NI and FT-7NI jets. Pakistan also operates the type and has trained Nigerian pilots.
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=30548:pakistan-assisting-nigerian-air-force&catid=35:Aerospace&Itemid=107

I have been back for less than 20min and I have exposed 2 separate lies.

The only lie I see exposed is yours.

SAAB of Sweden has white engineers maintaining SAAF Gripen jets for you, same way NAF uses Pakistanis

After paying millions of dollars bribe to SAAB officials to sell Gripens to you, they still milk you dry for maintenance cash until you could no longer afford it and froze 14 Gripens into long term storage
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andrewza:
We built them our selfs.

Mandela's over-priced Hawk Jets have no targeting pods, it only uses FLIR like NAF Mi-35 Hind helicopters
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andrewza:
We built them our selfs.

You built Umbani bombs yourselves and Sweden refused to allow it work on your own Gripen jets, you got screwed up after all the billions of dollars you paid your Swedish masters for the over-rated and poorly armed Gripens of SAAF
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