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Patchesagain:
Different models of the same helicopter, clown. Mi-171 Terminator is the export variant of the Mi-8AMTSh

Also, pic related "ancient outdated 1987 oryx"

You can go redecorate your Oryx interior, it is still a 1987 air frame and function design, helicopters have advanced since 1987 era.

SAAF is many years behind NAF, or Mi-171s is a year 2002 design and is brand new, keep sulking with your ancient helos.

Better go replace them when you have money in year 2030, for now SANDF is broke, @Andrewza is at risk of retrenchment
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Patchesagain:
The argument was never about Air-refueling of helicopters - WTF are you smoking

and no, the MI-171sh is defined as a "combat transport helicopter"
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/mi-171sh-combat-transport-helicopter/

Fool, both means the same thing. Combat-Transport Helicopter = Assault Helicopter. Fool

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NaijaPikinGidi:
Gallant Sojas!! Una goodnight oo! If una no hear my breaklight ... dat one be say I don enter bush again. Major push at hand.

Roger that sir !
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andrewza:
They have been putting rockets and guns and missiels on the MI17 for years. It is still a transport with wepaons straped on it. The more wepaons the less effective a transport you have.

The orxy are rather modern and have another upgrade pending.


It is cute how you try and make your stuff better than what they are. I all so wonder if nigeria is going to employ russian doctrain with there new russian choppers or follow western doctrain of the guys that are training them.


And a orxy can perfom a host of roles to from transport, air assult, medi vac, maretime support and EW.

Mi-17 Hip is NOT Mi-171s Terminator . Same way MiG-21 is NOT MiG-31.

Your Oryx does not carry any guided missile, same way your Rooivalk does not carry any guided bomb by specs.

Go kiss a frog with your ancient outdated 1987 Oryx helicopter that keeps rotating in a recycle factory
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MikeZA:
Claims again!!!!!!

You guys were claiming Chinooks and 40 helicopters LOOOOOOOOOL,we all know what happened next.

The news of Nigeria's 40 new combat helicopters from Russia has reached South Africa, we have left the Americans to sulk.

Patchesagain:
Just like we attached rockets to the Oryx

andrewza:
I like how you say M17 combat helcopter when it is just a transport chopper. Sure you can mount rockets on it. But you can fit rocket pods to any thing. Libya stuck rockets pods on to a freaking sedan car.

All the 3 of you are very very wrong !

Nigerian Mi-171s Terminator helicopters are a modern year 2002 product specifically designed for dual role, attack and transport as a bigger type of Mi-35 Hind.

South African Oryx was NEVER designed for attack role and is an old outdated past generation year 1987 helicopter.

Stop making wrong comparison based on envy.

"The Mi-171Sh can be deployed on a range of missions, including the airlifting of assault forces, transportation of cargoes, troop fire support, air-to-surface attack, escort of the military columns, medical evacuation and combat search and rescue (CSAR) operations."

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/mi-171sh-combat-transport-helicopter/

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MikeZA:
Claims again!!!!!!

You guys were claiming Chinooks and 40 helicopters LOOOOOOOOOL,we all know what happened next.

Simple, the order was shifted to Russia.

According to your own respected South African sources, Nigeria is buying 40 Russian Mi-35 Hind and Mi-171s Terminator combat helicopters

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andrewza:
There was an entier thread deicated to solders in the NE. We all got to see. AK47 a few mags. That we as it. Hell your solders even muinty and complian over not being this. Stop acting like a child. You know your army is woefully under armerd.

Sure you have a few APCs and nice gear. But it is not standard issue. And I wonder if the 7th divstion is so poorly armerd how do your forces not in the NE look? Hell even the 7th div can not get 1 standard Camo pattern.

South African army has NEVER deployed more than 4,000 soldiers in a war zone in the last 60 years so we don't know how well armed you will be when you deploy 20,000 men into one single war zone like Nigeria.

Sure you will look like Congolese rebels
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Msauza:
You still live in the past. SA as at today has every village, town and city electrified. I have never seen any area in SA without electricity. So, where do you get your imaginary 15 million?

The weblink sources and photos have been repeated on this forum too many times this year, reason why old timer South Africans on this forum don't bother to argue when I mention it
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andrewza:
Or maybe there are a lot of people in Nigeria who live in darkness.

15 million South Africans live in permanent darkness, ZERO electricity.

Your country stinks too
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LaBellaMafiaZA:

Now who is this MotherFvcker ? Soweto keeps producing new cockroaches on Nairaland !
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MikeZA:
Speculation again. You can't prove that or your conclusion is reached by reading online articles.

I proved it just last month, source is your own defenceweb news from South Africa, was posted here as part of the Mokopa missile fraud expose. How many times wil I repeat same source weblink again and again, you think I time to waste?
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MikeZA:
Ever heard about project Carver?

Cuban MIG-23 were to be matched by the Cheetah fighter jets and in preparation for a possible SU-27 purchase project carver was in place.

The G5 and 6 howitzer's are South African,ask what South Africa got from the Canadian.

Nuclear weapons?

Ever heard about Armscor's "The circle"?

SA developed it's own nuclear weapons.

I will respond to only one of all the lies you posted above to save time.

Project Carver is a paper drawing of a South African dream jet fighter that NEVER existed, it was brought to this forum in 2013 by @Saengine and it took only 1 minute to demolish it....by just tearing the piece of paper drawing that any good artist can draw in a day.

The jet NEVER existed....Now pull another one

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Msauza:
Tourists avoid Nigeria because of " terrorism"

El shabab terrorists k.ill people inside Nairobi shopping malls, but Kenya remains big tourist attraction for the whole world.

Criminals are on hourly rampage all over South Africa like ants swooping on sugar cubes, tourists are careful to avoid many places so as not to end up like the Unlucky Lucky Five

You live in a glass house, don't throw stones
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GreenandGold:
No.... beauty varies by degree my friend.

No..... beauty varies by what you decide to show and publicize.

Fact that South Africa makes lots of photos of what they have and display their best tourists sites on internet does not makes other countries less beautiful. Every country is not photomaniac.

Most French tourists visit francophone West Africa.

I live in the USA and every year, 90% of well to do Americans travel overseas for tourism. The top list destinations are :

Mexico
Brazil
Spain
Hawaii
Bahamas
Dubai
Thailand
Vietnam
Italy...Roman empire monuments and great arts
Australia
Egypt....Pyramids
Israel...Bible monumet sites
Kenya....Safari

Sorry, very very few American tourists know about South Africa. The biggest tourist travellers in this world are the Americans and those places they visit around the world are said to be awesomely beautiful.

The world neither starts nor ends in South Africa, you SA guys need to travel out and go see that none of the seven wonders of the world is found in South Africa, I am sure the great wall of China is not situated in Cape Town

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iterator24:
but there are tourists in one of the pics i posted even many of your compatriots are in Abuja as we speak

Obudu Ranch.

Tinapa.

Calabar carnival annual.

Eko Eyo masquared annual.

Jos rocks.

Idanre hills.

Ikogosi warm spring.

Olumo rocks.

Durbar kano annual.

Argungu fishing annual.

Badagry slave trade sites.

Thousands of tourists visit Nigeria, government is not interested in documenting it or recording those events. Tourism sector is not yet priority for Nigerian governemt, the great sites are there and hug number of tourists visit, especially the annual festivals
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Msauza:
Chief, Nigeria is busted and cannot do anything to go off the chain. MTN is by no doubt the biggest service provider in Nigeria and has created many jobs which add significant value on the economy of Nigeria. The same applies to DSTV which has employed and empowered many businesses in Nigeria.

Should they however decide to pull out, Nigeria will at all costs feel the heat from a large scale loss of employment and revenues.

So, for as much as South African companies need you, you equally need them even more. So they are not under your mercy.

No need to imagine a calamity that will not happen to Nigeria. We have done nationalization before by turning British Petroleum to African petroleum, so we can just ask Globacom as our national telecoms carrier to take over MTN.....easy ride.

I see SA guys no longer boast about about eating Nigeria's $9 million, they now realize we will eat up their MTN worth say 100 times more, then we will know who is the real big loser
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Msauza:
Green or not, the fact remains SA still runs like a bull on Africa's kraal, despite its demotion. Nigeria cannot do it in Africa with their top position as Africa's economic power.

A South African publicly admitts that Nigeria has demoted South Africa by sitting on top of their head....I bookmark the above comment for future reference

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lezz:
i will take that as an implicite admission that mark henry and the colonel has thought you some lessons. Well since they are my country folks and share same motions with me. I shall oblige your request and allow them turn you green. Lol.

Oga no mind am, the guy dey talk like say na palm wine full him water bottle
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EroZA:
hey you can you stop diluting this thread with your nonsense.... share your tears on another thread and let colonel augububu and mark Henry do the work for you...

Am sure comments from @lezz gives you nightmares. Live with it
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Patchesagain:
We do build multiple missile systems, and the Cheeta variant of the Mirage we flew is superior to your current F-7's... so what does that say?

And the Cubans never had air-superiority

G5 and G6 was not sold to us, it was designed by a Canadian INSIDE of South Africa FOR a South African company

Nuclear bomb tech was not imported to us.

[b]Maybe you should learnt quote history and actually quote it by providing citations

Dude those are old stories already proved with citations on this thread over and over again, I have almost 6,000 comments on this forum to back up my claims, so feel free to view the sources quoted there. I will NOT play that repeating citations game for a fraud like you, sorry o !
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GERALD710:
Tourismwise. Nigeria is not even close.I believe it is not even in the top 10. Kenya on the other hand is in the top 5.
Loooool!I love that map.We own each other!!! Rather we own Uganda,Rwanda,Burundi and South Sudan.
The day I will believe Nigeria is an actual economic power is when it stops having 12 hour blackouts and producing only double of our electricity supply while having 5 times our population.
South Africa is the dominant nation on this continent.Deal with it.

How do you dominate with about 2 times smaller economic output and 3 times smaller consumer sales market?

MTN customers in Nigeria alone is equal to the whole population of South Africa. That is what investors are looking for.

You can eat your nice infrastructure for breakfast if you want. Who cares? Nobody
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GreenandGold:
Dude dream on... South Africa is the monster here, your economy is a fraud some economists suggest so... you have no industrial electricity yet your manufacturing sector is indicated as larger than our, its basic fraud

How does Nigeria's oil and gas industry work 'without' electricity in the oil fields?

Many big companies/industries have IPP electricity 24 hours a day. You don't know Nigeria beyond google searches
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Patchesagain:
This has allready been proven to be false.

What is wrong with you?

Does it hurt you? Do you know how many things we Nigerians proved here and you still deny?

Butt hurt

Patchesagain:
and missiles, drones, EW kits, world-class optics kits, submarine periscopes (in use with over 15 nations), MGLs (in use with the USMC), world class SPG's (in use with UAE) etc etc etc

We are good at building whatever we want to build

With imported engines from France and USA, imported designs from Canada, imported engineers from Israel....well done

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Patchesagain:
You cannot afford what we sell.

You don't sell $4 million T-84 Oplot tanks or do you? We are guying it from Ukraine.

Rooivalk is NOT worth the $40 million price tag, it's a highly over-valued at the same price of an Su-30 Flanker jet !

South Africa sells average weapons at exorbitant rip-off prices, reason why Nigerian's ignored Woolworth till they ran away from Lagos
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Patchesagain:
Go ahead.

Nationalize

Just ask Zimbabwe how it worked for them.

Nigeria is NOT Zimbabwe.

Nigeria nationalized British companies many decades ago, and Britain could do NOTHING ! British Petroleum was swallowed up by Nigeria to become African petroleum.

MTN will be gifted to Globacom when we decide to retaliate

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Patchesagain:
Those to bodies you posted were un-armed

So when an army kills the enemy, they leave the enemies weapons on the streets for anybody to pick up and use or for the enemy to come back at night and re-possess? No wonder anyway, South African army has ZERO war experience and does not know how to handle captured enemy weapons, SANDF will soon be in Nigeria for COIN training, come with your training/course fee, no free lunch, learning from African COIN masters is expensive.

Who owns all these captured weapons? Did Nigerian army collect them by negotiation with Boko fighters?

Look, if your comments become more and more frivolous, I will stop replying you, I don't have time to waste on a Fool
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Msauza:
Then that case 100% of Nigerians live in poverty.

Nonsense= nonsense

I thought @Patches was the only L..U..N..A..T..I..C we have here !
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MikeZA:
Bush war?

South Africa during the bush war introduced weapons such as:

1. World's HMD

2. Nuclear weapons.

3. G5 howitzer.

4. G6 howitzer.

5. Stand off weapons.

6. Casspir.

And more!!!!

While Nigeria put her Jaguar jets out of service.

Ordinary refusal of one European country to sell a simple spare part of Rooivalk helicopter to South Africa stopped you from selling to a willing customer. So easy for your European white masters to wreck y.our arms industry with one single email from Europe
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MikeZA:
Bush war?

South Africa during the bush war introduced weapons such as:

1. World's HMD

2. Nuclear weapons.

3. G5 howitzer.

4. G6 howitzer.

5. Stand off weapons.

6. Casspir.

And more!!!!

While Nigeria put her Jaguar jets out of service.

South Africa too could not build her own jet fighters or even ordinary air to air missiles to replace the weak Mirage jets France sold to you, you kept complaining of Cuba's MiG-23 air superiority throughout the war. So what makes you better?

The G-5 and G-6 artillery technology was imported and sold to South Africa by a Canadian, while the Nuclear bomb technology was imported from Israel and sold to you.

South African arms industry was built by secret b..reast feeding from oversees throughout the arms embargo. Learn to quote history
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MikeZA:
All that machismo can't be backed up by nothing.

"Mild" sanctions brought them to their knees forcing them to retire jets. Today their crying babies towards the west's policy.

Mild sanctions brought you to your knees in Angolan bush war.

It can happen again and cripple all your European imported jets, warships, submarines etc.

South Africa is a tiny piece of overrated Hollywood camera
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