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patches689:
What drivel

Boko Haram is not supported by AQ

Those tactics are not rare and are somewhat outdated in terms of COIN doctrine

The rest is just mindless, poor quality government propaganda

Nigeria is no where near the best army in the world by "acheivement" - because you have none

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Envy can give you high blood pressure. Butt Hurt

See South Africa face very weak threats, that are far inferior to Boko Haram


"A group of South African soldiers was robbed in South Sudan during a peacekeeping mission, the SA Navy said on Thursday.

"There was no loss of life, but some of their equipment was taken away from them," Captain Jaco Theunissen told Sapa.

He said the troops were on a convoy when they were ambushed on Saturday."

http://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/2014/02/13/sa-soldiers-robbed.-in-south-sudan?filter=all_comments

Consequence of almost ZERO war experience and always sitting down in homeland, at ease

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[size=14pt]Meanwhile, this is Nigerian army...[/size]

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[size=16pt]Nigerian army defeating Boko Haram as Africa's Gaint unleashes dreaded military might

Soon to set record of fastest defeat of Al-Qaeda/Taliban supported militancy in the world

Nigerian army emerging the current best army in the world by achievements

As NA destroys Boko Haram's force cohesion using rare world class tactics [/size]
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"Boko Haram losing grip
DAVID MOLOMO, YOLA
Sunday, October 12, 2014



Boko Haram losing grip
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- Deserter reveals how leadership vacuum, internal squabble, hunger, desertion by members made Adamawa military exploit possible


Indications abound that the Nigerian troops are getting upper hand against the Boko Haram sect.


Saturday Sun authoritatively gathered that recent breakthroughs by the Nigerian troops is also informed by the demise of a prominent leader of the insurgents, after the death of Abubakar Shekau at Konduga in Borno State. It is suggested that the weakening of the sect also results from power tussle amongst those who are jostling to lead the gang. The development, which our sources said, has led to internecine squabble even among the rank and file in the Boko Haram camp.


It will be recalled that, as a result of the friction, which culminated in the fierce battle within their ranks and the death of over 30 insurgents in the process, succession palaver, is also said to have informed the new development. In the circumstances, it would seem that things have begun to fall apart with the terror group.


Coupled with all that is the apparent disenchantment by those that were forcefully recruited. For example, there were hundreds that were recruited in Michika and Madagali localities of Adamawa State. According to one of them who deserted the group recently, they were mostly natives who were used by the insurgents to identify houses of prominent figures in government in the two localities and their environs.


Some of the indigenes, who were rescued from captivity during an interaction with Saturday Sun, maintained that the recent military breakthroughs were made possible because the cohesion that once existed within the group has begun to weaken and, therefore, the centre is beginning to bottom out.


The recruited natives, who claimed that they were hypnotized by the insurgents toward assisting in dishing out vital information, took the advantage of these recent breakthroughs of the troops to escape to Mubi and Yola, the state capital.


Aliu Dauda, one of those that escaped, relayed his experience in the camp to Saturday Sun. He said that many of them that were recruited were did not join on their volition. According to him, they hypnotized, using certain liquid substances.


"Most youths in Michika were forcefully recruited to join the gang, first as subsidiary staff. Failure to do their bidding attracted lashes or being shot in the leg or confined in an underground detention camp.


"We served as informants and any attempt to give out false information will be punished severely. The fact remains that we were placed under a spell, which made it possible for us to obey them. We discovered that we were doing everything they told us without complaints.


"I thank God that I survived and now in the midst of our kinsmen who have helped us to recover from the after effect of our abduction," Dauda enthused.


Adding, he said: "Those that forcefully recruited us do not have human feelings. While we were in their midst, we could not resist whatever they told us because a liquid substance was given to us."


When asked how he was able to escape, he said that, "first and foremost, there were disagreement and disenchantment between the rank and file of the gang and our supposed leaders. Those of us that were newly recruited five months ago, had to escape when it was apparent that Nigerian troops were having an edge over the Boko Haram sect.


"At the stage we were, we weren't given arms and ammunitions but rather our assignments were to give out information and identify locations and targets for destruction. We had not graduated to that stage; those recruited in Konduga and Gwoza were our seniors in the business of killing. We that were forcefully recruited in Gulak, Madagali and Michika, were considered not mature or trained to handle weapons or take charge of ammunition."


Dauda disclosed to Saturday Sun that hunger and starvation in the camp of the gang immensely contributed to the breakthroughs recorded by the Nigerian side. "As a result of hunger and starvation, the gang allowed the newly recruited to search everywhere for food. We were given this assignment because we are familiar with the localities. We had no choice but to break into people's houses who are our kinsmen to get raw food. Besides, houses of prominent persons in Michika were taken over by the sect."


Army recovers more towns, arms and ammunition


In recent times, Nigerian troops' successes over the insurgents have reverberated, especially with the capture of two armoured tanks belonging to the sect. Apart from serious casualty figures recorded by the group, the Nigerian military has also captured a massive armoury with arms and ammunitions belonging to the fleeing terrorists.


"The large quantities of weapons recovered in the raid are still being evacuated from the scene of the night raid where several terrorists died," Major General Chris Olukolade, the defence spokesman said recently. He added: "Similar operations took place in coordination with the troops of Multinational Joint Task Force in the raids in other camps located on the outskirts of Duguri, Polkime, Malafatori and other locations around the fringes of Lake Chad."


He also revealed that substantial amounts of "money in different currencies and denominations were recovered from the camps, while a total of seven terrorists were captured in the operation."


The statement also gave an update on the foiled attack on Giwa Barrack in Maiduguri, Olukolade had said: "Troops conducting cordon and search for remnants of the daring terrorists who attacked Giwa Barracks in Maiduguri, had an encounter with some of the surviving terrorists in the general area of Kayamla and Alu Dam on the outskirts of Maiduguri this morning. More of the terrorists have been killed and arrested in the ongoing encounters.


He added that more bodies of fleeing terrorists had been discovered along the routes of their escape. Troops' morale and fighting spirit have been further boosted by the outcome of the operations so far, he said, adding that cordon-and-search as well as patrols and pursuit by air and land were continuing in the entire mission area of Borno, Yobe and Adamawa states.


http://odili.net/news/source/2014/oct/12/504.html

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patches689:
Soviet war in Afghanistan was 10years

NATO has been there for just longer than that

Rooivalk can defend against the stinger unlike the Hind

Anyway that is beside the point, you said a helicopter is a helixopter - I have shown you that it's not.

You proved nothing ! Mumu !

You did not mention that your claim was in a long war of many years with thousands of American stinger missiles used against the Hind.

I showed you that so you can see how poorly you reason.

Helicopter is helicopter, they get shpt down easily when air defense is good.

The Afghan war Hinds were old version Hinds with no radar warning, laser warning, chaff and flares for counter measures against enemy air defenses. Nigeria is flying the latest and best versions of Hinds and we have all those protection on them, NAF combat helicopters are up to the same standard as the second most powerful country in the world....Russia.

Go kiss a frog if envy troubles you...Lady froggie will ease your tensions
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Patchesagain:
No jackass.

74 Hind were lost in Afghanistan alone

Over how many long years of war? And against thousands of American supplied Stinger anti-aircraft missiles in the hands of Mujahideen against the Hind helicopters.

"Engineer Ghaffar of Gulbuddin Hekmatyar's Hezb-i-Islami, brought down the first Hind gunship with a Stinger on September 25, 1986 near Jalalabad. The Central Intelligence Agency eventually supplied nearly 500 Stingers (some sources claim 1,500–2,000) to the Mujahideen in Afghanistan as part of Operation Cyclone with the supply of 250 launchers."

If M23 Had AIM-92 Stinger hand held missiles we would have buried all your Rooivalk pilots in Congo DRC in one day
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Patchesagain:
No jackass.

74 Hind were lost in Afghanistan alone

Over how many years? And against hundreds of American supplied Stinger anti-aircraft missiles in the hands of Mujahideen against the Hind helicopters.

"Engineer Ghaffar of Gulbuddin Hekmatyar's Hezb-i-Islami, brought down the first Hind gunship with a Stinger on September 25, 1986 near Jalalabad. The Central Intelligence Agency eventually supplied nearly 500 Stingers (some sources claim 1,500–2,000) to the Mujahideen in Afghanistan as part of Operation Cyclone with the supply of 250 launchers."

If M23 Had AIM-92 Stinger hand held missiles we would have buried all your Rooivalk pilots in Congo DRC in one day
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LaBellaMafiaZA:
Ermergherd! Like, really? I swear, this guy wants me *purrs*

Such an old ass post! I'm not in the mood to argue, it's too hot outside. Come here, lemme me give you b00b slaps

Really? For free?

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Patchesagain:
Thats Hichkock45, so no, he is not your average civilian.

No photos of AGL's in service with your infantry have ever been posted

No, you dont have any rifle grenades.

Y3 AGL is fully introduced into all Infantry Companies in the SANDF
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3493&Itemid=176


And we are spending R 3,4 million upgrade the Milkor MGL... thats allot of money to spend on two MGLS

The SA Army is also spending about R3.4 million to upgrade its stock of Milkor Y2 multiple grenade launchers (MGL). It has been using an early variant of the Milkor the six-shot grenade revolver since the mid-1980s. More than 30 000 of the Multiple Grenade Launcher systems designed and manufactured by the SA based Milkor are used in more than 30 countries worldwide.
http://www.bdlive.co.za/articles/2010/03/17/sandf-to-spend-r30-million-on-upgrading-r4r5

So there you have it, Y3 AGL and Milkor Y2 MGL are in complete service with the entire SANDF

Now show us proof that you have AGL's and MGLs and rifle-grenades in full service in the NA

Smells like just another Mokopa propaganda

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Patchesagain:
One.

One Apache shot down in Combat in over 11 years of continuous war.

77 Hind shot down during the shorter Russian war in Afghanistan.


And no, a helicopter is not a helicopter.

Helicopters are helicopter, all vulnerable when air defense is present.

More Hinds shot down than Apache because more Hinds have fought in wars around the world long before Apache woke up from sleep
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Patchesagain:
Is his boss South African or not?

FIB doesnt do sh1t unless Ban Ki Moon gives it the nod.

....and Ban Ki Moon is on battlefield leading the combat operations for UN forces ?

IINSANITY
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Patchesagain:
How about a quote from the man himself

The combat support helicopter has earned high praise from Martin Kobler, MONUSCO head.

“Its accuracy enables us to achieve our clear objectives, including protection of civilians.”

http://rpdefense.over-blog.com/tag/rooivalk/

Your new source is a mere blog, or does UN operate via a blog?

....and you complain about beegeagle when we post it, now you post an unknown blog here.

You are more siick than I thought

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Patchesagain:
No, you have one or two MGL's, they are not in common service, and no known AGL's in service with your infantry. You guys dont even have rifle grenades for godness sakes.

And we were robbed because of the ROE that existed at the time. Zambians were also robbed. If we arent allowed to shoot, what are we supposed to do?

and we are involved in the only offensive peacekeeping operation in the world.

And they didnt steal any armor, you clod.

Yes, ordinary Sudanese robbers stripped SANDF of their body armour and guns in daylight....armour

SANDF has only two MGLs and only one AGL recycled in photos.

Nigerian AGL photos have been repeated here enough.

Nigeria has AK-47 rifle grenades and photos posted on SiriusBlacks thread showing current use against Bokos.

FN-FAL has rifle grenade mode, Nigeria used them a lot in Biafran war. We just limited FN FAL to NDA use for now, we tens of thousands of them in stock.

It looks special to you? It is an old time thing, even in the hands of civilans

Patchesagain:
Gun and uniform?

lol, just show us you live in America. Lair.

I am never in a hurry

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Patchesagain:
And his boss is South African

#WhoIsLeadingWho?

Civilians don't lead soldiers on battle field. Ban Ki Moon is not leading FIB forces in Congo
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Patchesagain:
Maybe it’s because everybody is singing its praises from the UN to a number of other “interested” countries. While he keeps mum about whom the latter might be, he says any orders from abroad would ensure that this magnificent flying machine might just grace the skies in a few more countries…

http://www.aafonline.co.za/column/erika-gibson-column-rooivalk-resuscitated

I asked for a UN source and you reply me with a South African website....

You sure you okay upstairs ?

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MikeZA:
Yes,it was a prototype of the Rooivalk.

Attack helicopters are always better.

Helicopter is helicopter, Mighty Apaches get shot down
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MikeZA:
Nigeria has no

1.Anti-material sniper rifles.
2.Rifle grenades.
3.Long range mortars.
4.DM rifles.
5.Anti tank-missiles.
6.Anti-mine/clearing systems.

Should I continue?

Your soldiers aren't highly trained,so don't present them as being highly skilled marksmen.

Nigeria has all those things you listed, most have been shown in photos, except number 1.

Rifle grenades are in tens of thousands in Nigerian army FN FAL in stock plenty plenty surplus surplus.

You show us South African army amphibious armoured vehicles, just show us one only

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andrewza:
Those rebels look better than your troops. They have Camo, lots of ammo, radios, suport wepaons galor. Hell congo rebels are probaly better trained than nigerian solders. They are better motivated that is for sure.

Kindly post a source to prove ALL the above. Thanks
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Patchesagain:
You guys remeber that formation we spent $400 million on during exercises?

ANC looted most of the money. South Africa has joined the African corruption club in grand style
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NaijaPikinGidi:
The stark reality of South Africans. Home is where the crime is ...

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http://news-headlines.co.za/is-irresponsible-advertorial-bbc-reporting-hiding-genocide-in-south-africa/

[size=14pt]Time Bomb....clock is ticking, one day they could be like Somalia[/size]


"In an article on the BBC website, 3rd May, it is claimed that there is a mass return to South Africa by Expats, in what appears to be an almost whitewash of the true situation, with many stunned cries of disbelief and foul play reverberating on Social Media.

Based solely on an unsubstantiated claim by Homecoming Revolution, a company whose business it is to encourage ex South Africans (aka SAFFA’s) to return to SA, that some 340,000 have returned to SA in the last decade, the BRITISH journalist, who has only been in South Africa for 10 years, is happy to provide 3 or 4 almost “to good to be true” examples. In fact, it appears one of these “examples” is the CEO and Founder of the Homecoming Revolution company itself!

As a service to would be returnee’s and visitors, who could be taken in by this irresponsible reporting, we thought it would be prudent to take off the BBC (rose) coloured glasses and inject some cold hard realities.

A simple visit to the Gov.UK Foreign Travel Advice centre includes statements like:

South Africa has a very high level of crime, including rape and murder. (It mentions how this is mostly in townships yet the BBC article proudly boasts that one of the “returnees” works in the Township of Kayalitsha!).
Incidents of vehicle hi-jacking and robbery are common, particularly after dark.
The standard of driving in South Africa can vary greatly and there are many fatal accidents every year.
There has been an increase in strike action in South Africa and some demonstrations have turned violent. This could continue in the run-up to elections in 2014.

The 2012 UNAIDS Report on the Global AIDS Epidemic estimated that around 5,700,000 adults aged 15 or over in South Africa were living with HIV; the prevalence percentage was estimated at around 17.9 of the adult population compared to the prevalence percentage rate in adults in the UK of around 0.2%. You should exercise normal precautions to avoid exposure to HIV/AIDS. There is no reciprocal health care agreement between the United Kingdom and South Africa.

There is a high incidence of credit card fraud and fraud involving ATMs.

There is an underlying threat from terrorism.

There is a hint in the small and almost reluctant admission that around one in six returnees end up leaving again. There is also the typical, and expected, repudiation of the impact of Affirmative Action that we have come to expect from a left leaning mass media News Company like BBC.

Well, if I was of the ilk of that journalist, I would leave the story there and send it to print confidently knowing my editor would consider it valid and politically correct. Job done!

However, let’s look a bit deeper. All it takes a couple of keystrokes.

No mention is made at all of all those fairly serious precautions regarding crime and health given on the UK.gov Foreign Office website cited above.

No mention is made of the fact that South Africa is rated 5 on the GenocideWatch website, having been moved down from 6, which is one step from actual genocide atrocities, last year.



No mention is made of the fact that it is, statistically, the most dangerous job in the whole world, of all professions, to be a white farmer in South Africa.

No mention is made of the fact that racist laws implemented by the ANC regime, to exclude whites from the workplace, have in fact just recently been extended and strengthened. These include access to educational institutions where top “straight A” students are denied places in favour of less well performing blacks, which are now called “FreeBorns” having been born into and schooled in post apartheid SA.

No mention of the fact that if, as an entrepreneur (which one assumes is the target market), you want to start a business in South Africa, you have to give 25% of it to a black shareholder (recently upgraded from 20%) by law.

No mention of dozens of reports in recent months alone of foreigners being slaughtered and raped in brutal fashion.

No mention of police implication in many crimes, including “recreational” rape.

Then there is the deluge of reaction this article has received on Social Networking sites like Facebook and especially in certain groups of users mostly in South Africa, but also from USA, UK, etc.

Without fail comment after comment expresses shock with claims that this BBC article is a “total lie”, a “fabrication”, “leftist propaganda”, “Pre Election propaganda” on behalf of the disgraced and corrupt ANC and the publicly derided and often booed Jacob Zuma.

They unreservedly deny that a mass return is even taking place, and furthermore that it is irresponsible to even suggest that it is safe to return, especially for whites!

So much so that one these groups, with 3,000 members, which was started by Christians from America, who want to highlight and spread awareness of the white genocide taking place in South Africa, and the accompanying media blackout that surrounds this “politically incorrect” topic, have launched a campaign to complain to the BBC, UNESCO, UN, Human Rights commission in SA, and anyone else who will listen, about the danger of this superficial almost advertorial “report” with no consideration to facts.

There is another group, Boere Krisis in Aksie (BKA), entirely dedicated to the farm murders with almost 10,000 members as well as a Facebook page with over 91,400 Likes!

More telling, is a group started as a call to boycott the Afrikaans monopoly mass media organisation, (Naspers), for their media blackout and denial of this “politically incorrect” hot potato. This group has amassed 22,500 members!

Another group called SAFFA Nation Without a State for a BondStaat has started a campaign called “Deed for a deed” whereby every time there is a murder and rape of a white farmer or a home invasion, which is daily, the members are encouraged to respond to that deed by doing some pro-active deed towards attaining self determination (secession) for the “currently disadvantaged” european minority in SA.

No mention of the heated arguments going on in the SA media about verification and fabrication of stats. It is well regarded that stats given out by the government are entirely fabricated and most people refer to independent sources for information. Sites like Farmitracker and AfriCheck have sprung up as a result.

We could go on ad-infinitum citing examples and facts with many many horrific stories and facts of unspeakable brutality against innocent civilians sometime well into their 80’s!

…and we do not have to resort to using staff as an example!

Finally, this company, Homecoming Revolution which was started in 2003 by this Ad Exec, who was one example cited in the article, worked for M&C Saatchi in London and went back to South Africa to start M&C Saatchi in 1996. A quick look at their client list and there can be no doubt her, and her team of mostly female executives, obviously know how to pull the punters in. Many of these listed are major government organisations, like ESKOM, the national electricity provider, who are not allowed, by law, to hire white staff. A well known campaign by the SA government is its “Brand SA” and LeadSA campaigns. This same story has been repeated in South African Newspaper the star and online Mail & Guardian who even claim a larger amount, 359,000 have returned since 2008! That is over 5,000 per month! We demand to now where this figure comes from….

One can find videos on Youtube of SA Ambassadors almost begging South Africa’s brains, mostly whites, to return to rebuild the country. Rebuild? Has it been destroyed in the last 20 years then? Also denied. These very people they chased away with their lack of respect for the rights of minorities and their racist legislation. Rewind 20 years, and the BBC was at the absolute crest of the Mandela wave riding high on the legend they created. It appears that just like the Russian Revolution, the Socialists and liberals have once again got it wrong…"

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andrewza:
Yet photos of the averge nigerian solder fighting BH show them basic nigerian infantry squad to be armened with a AK47 and a few Mags. Where we have shown that even SA solders in Sudan on peacekeeping missions have MGLs.

Nigeria has MGLs too.

South African soldiers were robbed by thugs in Sudan who dispossessed SANDF of their weapons and armour

Why do we always find Nigerian soldiers in the hottest war zones on earth, while we find South African soldiers where only armed robber class of conflict exists ?

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lezz:
i repeat, i have never seen such bare faced,fact-twisting, unscrupulous liers like southafricans. I will give it to them. They are a genius at mixing lies with facts . Distortion masters.

That is their national trademark and symbol

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LaBellaMafiaZA:
He is done! Finally! How was it ? Did she make those fish noises again? Remember that she is made of plastic, hun. Just play the "I'm a Barbie girl" song in the background next time to drown the noise.

Go back to talking about missiles & shyt & let's leave each other's love lives out of the topic, k?

Btw, my man's real 100% flesh.

You sound more like your world is only rocked with a Plastic V.i.b.r.a.t.o.r

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GERALD710:
The whole bloody world knows.....Nigeria is the king of Scams.

A South African company just this month collected $5 million from Nigerian arms buyers using an expired SA company registration which is illegal and criminal. Your own scams includes big time corporate/institutional robbery in broad daylight
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andrewza:
The fact the UN prefer the rooivalk over the hind
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Show me a UN source that confirms that statement
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andrewza:
sorry many things are classified on it, sea scan can pic up low flying aircraft. Hell you can use sea scan to track rain. What the typ 209s sub can not do is target and trak a aircraft but that a moot poit since it is a sub. Any case in combat the sub would not use it's radar it is mostly for peace time.

Subs for anti piracy is for intel gathering.

Submarine is NOT = OPV

Anyway, South Africa has no fuel to sustain anti-piracy missions beyond Angola, except if your engines run on Coca Cola
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Patchesagain:
Prove that you live in the USA

It is now central to your entire argument

So, prove that you live where you say you do.

One day, I will....at my own time....with my gun and uniform. No hurry
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andrewza:
Hawaii is American. Any case we mostly get euro and asian tourists.

Did I say Hawaii is in Ghana? Good you confessed that is is mostly Asians who are crazy about South Africa.

Like the Dalai Lama for whom China commanded Jacob Zuma to deny an entry visa

China too commands South Africa, no wonder Tanzania is judged good enough to lead your 50 million people

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Msauza:
Biggest economy with nothing to show for it.

It actually showed something for it to be ranked biggest
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ELKASPBG:
Who said Nigeria will not lead the multi-national force then read more.

South African guys will not like to read or hear it

http://dailyindependentnig.com/2014/10/nigeria-lead-multinational-strike-force-boko-haram/

You dey mind South Africans?

Envy will k.ill them because Tanzanian army commander is still leading South African army in Congo as we speak

Nigerian military is confirmed the to be big boss as usual, so we will continue to lead Africa till infinity !!!!

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andrewza:
It is not a 2002 anything. It predats the orxy and even the puma.

" The military transport helicopter was introduced into the world market in 2002. The helicopter is delivered through the Russian state-owned special exporter Rosoboron export.

The Mi-171Sh Terminator was specifically designed for operating in combat missions in local armed conflicts. The design incorporates a five-bladed main rotor, a tail rotor and non-retractable tricycle nose-wheel landing gear.

The glassed-in cockpit accommodates three crew and cabin houses up to 36 troops, or up to 12 casualties on stretchers. The helicopters are equipped with modern avionics and instrumental equipment, to operate in all weather conditions at any time of the day.

The armour protection provided over the crew cabin and vital units increases the combat survivability of the helicopter. The engine exhaust ducts are equipped with infrared suppression exhaust mixer boxes for a low infrared signature.

The helicopter has an IR-decoy dispensing system to counter an infrared homing surface-to-air missile or air-to-air missile. The fuel tank self-sealing covers and polyurethane foam protection avoid the possibility of fuel explosions and leakage in case of combat damage.

The Mi-171Sh is armed with a Shturm-V high-precision guided missile system. The missiles can destroy modern battle tanks protected by explosive reactive armour, fortified points and aerial targets ."

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/mi-171sh-combat-transport-helicopter/

Let us see how your SAAF old school design Oryx helicopter from recycle factory can beat NAF Terminators.

Butt Hurt

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Patchesagain:
Nope.

Only 2 hard-points, no pintle-mounted gun and less armour, plus inferior handling and performance

I would be depressed if the SAAF used Terminators, its a sign of 3rd world militarys

And its designed for soviet doctrine, which is an inferior doctrine

I think you are iinsane as usual.

Russia NOT Soviet Union, designed and introduced the Terminator in 2002, and it is NOT exactly the same as the old design and old engine Mi-17. Is a 1960 MiG-21 and a 2010 F-7 the same design because they look alike?

2 hardpoints ? You are truly iinsane, Terminator has 6 hard points.

Butt-hurt because SAAF does not have a Helicopter with a rear opening landing ramp

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Patchesagain:
No

combat transport helicopter = combat transport helicopter

If it was an assault helicopter, they would call it that

The Hind is an assault helicopter

The Hind has been called the world's only "assault helicopter," for its combination of firepower & troop-carrying

Terminator has more weapons stations than the Hind and carries more troops, so it is equally an assault helicopter by definition, so you can call it is a 'Giant Hind'.

Fool ! Butthurt because SAAF does not have Terminators

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