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sirjerry: first you said WHOLE town was set ablaze...wrong
soldies fled the scene...wrong.
why dont u stop exergerating stuff.And they were not defenceless.

Same news report said Soldiers killed 50 Boko Haram fighters in defence of the town. The soweto mumu just wants to tantalize himself with hallucinations of delusion.

Msauza: Ask BBC news and not me sorry!!!

You have NO clear proof of your imaginary c.ock and bull story. Simple.

Msauza: -It points out that Damboa was attacked. Fact!!
-The military fled the area after it was previously attacked. Fact!!
-The town was set ablaze. Fact!!!
-Scores of people were killed with nobody to defend them. Fact!!

So what do you want sir?

He wants a clear proof of your 'Facts'.

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The South African National Defence Force (SANDF) is facing a "catastrophic" multi-billion-Rand financial crisis that could force mass retrenchments and the indefinite postponement of the acquisition of essential equipment.

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=35436:sandf-faces-funding-crisis&catid=111:sa-defence&Itemid=242

patches689: Stop posting these same [links] over and over and over like you're fvcking retarrded. - Henry120

Stop denying the truth in those same [links] over and over and over like you're fvcking retarrded. - patches689

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CraigB: In other words, he committed a crime in Naai-geria and was able to evade capture.

Only to be captured in South Africa - where the crime wasn't even committed in the first place.

Yeah. Aren't you simply the brightest.

He was in jail in Nigeria 2008. Released on general amnesty in 2009. Traveled to South Africa after release to commit crime again on South African soil in 2010. Henry Okah found Nigeria too hot, he moved base to cool spot crime paradise South Africa. It's your country that is not too smart, they hungrily collect visa application money from any good or bad human being and open the gates of Pretoria airport very wide for every devil that pays your embassy visa money to Shout Afrikaa.

CraigB: In which case Naai-geria was stûpid and useless enough to let a criminal who committed a crime IN NAA-GERIA leave your country.

In which case Naai-geria was useless enough to omit convicting its OWN criminal.

Nigeria was too hot for him to stay. He found a cool spot in South Africa
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CraigB: Yes, the same intelligence that needed South Africa to arrest and convict Henry Okah.

South Africa was stupiid enough to let a criminal enter your country, no wonder your nation is the crime capital and crime head quarters of Africa.

You should have kept Herny Okah in Pretoria and let him turn your weak nation upside down with militant tactics, be will teach the Zulus/Xhosas how to reduce Boer whitemen population by 50% overnight .

Blind eyed-poor intelligence-weak security South Africa was busy making military and police photos for @THIZA to post on internet while a V.I.P. Rwandan public figure man was assassinated by enemies that penetrated South Africa with guns from Rwanda to k.ill a visitor in your country in broad day light and the assassins where never found till they escaped.

No wonder Lucky Dube did not reach age 50 years before he entered his grave.

Nation of PEACE TIME assasins...South Africa !

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juniormomoh: are the children in photos 3 and 4 children of operatives of the DSS?

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Yes ! http://gbemigaolamikan..ca/2012/04/health-promotion-for-staffs-of-state.html

Nigerian women will delete South African women in battle.

Nigerian men will delete South African men in battle.

Nigerian children will delete South African children in battle.

FACT !!![/size]

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These are not men on training drama, these are not photogenic Hollywood South African forces, these are....

Africa's best soldiers, Africa's best intelligence operatives...
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PHOTO 1 : NIGERIAN SOLDIERS, BATTLE TESTED, EXPERIENCED

PHOTO 2 : NIGERIA'S MEN IN BLACK...SUPER SPY DSS/SSS INTELLIGENCE OPERATIVES

PHOTOS 3 AND 4 :

KUNG-FU FIGHTER CHILDREN OF NIGERIAN SSS INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS, NIGERIA IS PREPARING FOR THE FUTURE TODAY.

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[size=14pt] Nigerian intelligence in action :

DSS/SSS and DMI operation 1

Five Abuja suburb actual bombers sniffed out, arrested in Abuja

http://www.punchng.com/news/nyanya-bombing-dss-arrests-five-declares-two-wanted/

https://tribune.com.ng/images/nyanya-bomb-suspects.jpg

DSS/SSS and DMI operation 2

Five suspects 'drilled' and confess in Abuja that Ogwuche is their mastermind.

Nigerian intelligence tracks Oguwche worldwide, sniffs him out in Sudan

Interpol informed, Sudan forced to extradite Boko Haram top rank b.ombing expert

Ogwuche deported, enters Nigerian intelligence trap...landed in Abuja

Nigerian air force flies in Ogwuche...Judgement day has come for the Boko Kingpin.

http://newswirengr.com/2014/07/15/breaking-news-british-nigerian-nyanya-bombing-mastermind-ogwuche-arrested-by-interpol-arrives-abuja-2/


https://newswirengr.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Ogwoche.jpg

The fear of Nigerian military/paramilitary intelligence is the beginning of wisdom [/size]

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PrinxArthur1: OGWUCHE WILL BE ROASTED HERE

Na for underground below sea level SSS go keep am in that stronghold HQ. Him dungeon door go get PIN code sef, no ordinary person go fit open am

patches689: He was caught by the Sudanese and handed to you by interpol.

Nigeria had nothing to do with it

Nigerian paramilitary intelligence SSS and DMI military intelligence sniffed out the first team of suicide bombers in Abuja several months ago, they captured them by intel, they interrogated them and found their leader to be Ogwuche, they traced Ogwuche across the world to Sudan, then forced Sudan to extradite him to Nigeria. Sudan did not want to release the guy, they NEVER told us he was hiding in their country.

Same way a Nigerian on this forum sniffed you out and shocked you when he called you Patrick, we can dig a hole into your bedroom after sniffing you out.

patches689: He was caught by the Sudanese and handed to you by interpol.

Nigeria had nothing to do with it

See why I hate replying you? Waste of time.

For your foolish comment above, I crown you the FOOL OF THE WEEK ON NAIRALAND

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NaijaPikinGidi: ...

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Bros, Ogwuche don enter Naija trap o ! Na jeje we dey move...


Abuja suburb suicide bombing mastermind in Nigerian trap...up Naija SSS

http://www.punchng.com/news/nyanya-blast-key-suspect-ogwuche-extradited-to-nigeria/[/size]

https://sunnewsonline.com/new/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/10513289_10152148143057703_6956122927464536702_n-702x336.jpg

PHOTO : NIGERIAN SECURITY FORCES IN ACTION WHILE SOUTH AFRICAN FORCES KEEP POSTING PHOTOS OF ZERO EXPERIENCED MEN


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NaijaPikinGidi: Although that's a wrong call ... Wouldn't you be calling yourself and your own father imbecilic beings with failure boldly engraved/tattooed all over your bodies?

Stop wasting your own time! Start the blood cleansing already!

The boy no dey think before him go talk. Him dey take style insult him own Papa

To cleanse himself of 'bad' genes now, fear dey catch am

olapluto: Without sounding patronising, can we (ordinary Nigerians) contribute money to buy our army Night vision equipments? It is suicidal to go out like this in the night. Boko Haram will be picking them one by one.

I have been silently hoping since 3 months ago that some average Nigerians will 'embarrass' our government by contributing money to buy some of these life saving infantry equipment for our gallant soldiers on battle field.

Night Vision Military Grade Binoculars is available for $500 each, single shot under-barrel AK-47 grenade launcher attachment is available for about $750 each, while automatic multiple 6 shot 40mm calibre grenade launcher revolver hand/shoulder held, I cannot find it's price, but could go for $5,000 each, one shot from it will cause accident and disable 12 Boko fighters on their Toyota Hilux assuming it does not ignite petrol tank.

Private companies empowered our police by donating hundreds of new patrol vehicles around year 2008 and we saw armed robbery rate go down in Lagos.

Companies, rich men, foreign based professionals and sportsmen, can all do this donations to save our young soldiers on the frontline, Syrian citizens in North American donated $1 million in few months of fund raising to arm the people fighting for them.

Kobo kobo from students and pepper sellers joined together will 'embarrass' the government of an oil rich Nigeria that has poorly equipped infantry men dying when they do not need to die, death is only acceptable when it is inevitable, death because of poor body armour, poor night vision, poor firepower multipliers, poor communication equipment, is all unacceptable to we Nigerians.

Arise o compatriots, the people shouting #Bring Back Our Girls should also shout # Properly Re-equip Our Dying Soldiers.

My 2 kobo.

NaijaPikinGidi: Pathetic soul. The choice is yours ... so waste no more time ... just begin the cleansing! Low lifer!

LOL. Na him wan comot 'bad' genes from his mixed blood by force, make him carry go on with the 'surgery' naa, it's simple private and personal 'ethnic' cleansing.

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Msauza: Helo

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NaijaPikinGidi: You are free to choose. But your Papa will always be your Papa! That blood of yours is what keeps you alive! And without it, you are a big ZERO!

I feel such great pity for you and your sense of low self esteem. Get well soon my boy!

@Msauza can drive a 12 inch dagger into his heart, pour out all his blood into a bucket, pick out the Nigerian blood cells to the dustbin, and suck back the South African blood cells that he prefers. That is my suggested solution to his genetic discontentment. Please do this tonight @Msauza, do it in a locked up bathroom....and switch off your mobile phone before you begin the self-cleansing process.

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patches689: Despite being outnumbered these SANDF members managed to stand their ground, inflicted many casualties on the opposing forces until the attackers surrendered and initiated cease fire which led to a truce.
http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politicsweb/view/politicsweb/en/page71654?oid=368674&sn=Detail&pid=71616

Is that a source directly from Seleka high command ? You failed English comprehension in school. Ode

Below is a source quoting Seleka commnader...


[size=14pt]New Source : Seleka k.illed over 36 SANDF and captured many prisoners...

....now we Know South African army raised the white flag...[/size]

RFI’s special envoy in Bangui spoke to a source who says he was present at the French military base near Bangui where he saw more than 50 body bags being loaded onto a Hercules C130 aircraft sent by Pretoria. He said other bodies were arriving as the 50 were being loaded on to the plane.

The source wishes to remain anonymous.
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General Arda Hakouma, who led the Seleka rebel coalition operation to capture Bangui, insists more South Africans were among the soldiers he killed.

"What is certain, I personally, General Arda Hakouma Seleka Chief of Staff, Chief Of Operations, so I am the one who directed the battle, I saw 36 South African dead and 22 wounded. That’s for sure, and there were prisoners too, we handed them over to Fomac [The regional African peacekeeping force for CAR]," he said .

http://www.english.rfi.fr/africa/20130404-witness-saw-over-50-bodybags-heading-south-africa-amid-allegations-involving-zumas-n

PHOTO : SELEKA EYE-WITNESS COMMANDER....General Arda Hakouma[/size]

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Henry120: SANDF faces funding crisis


The SA National Defence Force (SANDF) is facing a "catastrophic" multi-billion-Rand financial crisis that could force mass retrenchments and the indefinite postponement of the acquisition of essential equipment.

Johannesburg daily The Times reported defence secretary Sam Gulube as saying a R1.1 billion budget shortfall could compel the SANDF into large-scale retrenchments and compulsory early retirement in order to survive and pay salaries.

The budget shortfall also meant the SANDF would have to cut operations and acquisitions.

Gulube was speaking after briefing Parliament's defence portfolio committee.

The defence force's descent into crisis was slammed by the SA National Defence Union (Sandu) and a defence analyst said the proposed cost-saving measures would degrade the SANDF - already "catatonic" - even more.Gulube said the Department of Defence was unable to fill 4 000 posts because of insufficient funding.

Various options were being considered, he said, including cutting employees and extending working hours between now and March 2015.

"We hope that for the next financial year we will be covered.

"For the remuneration of employees, we are about R1.1 billion short. By the end of this year, I will have to balance these books.

"When posts are vacant we don't fill them. We encourage people to take voluntary exit mechanisms. We are looking at the attrition rate. The number of people who retire or die in service will be about 2 000 annually."

The shortfall means soldiers are being deployed for longer on foreign missions to cut down on stand-by shifts at home bases.

David Maynier, Democratic Alliance MP and defence portfolio committee member, said the Department of Defence was spending more than half of its budget of about R43 billion on personnel-related costs.

"The army alone has a R13.8 billion budget, of which R9.5 billion went to pay soldiers and staff. Less than one percent went to payment for capital assets such as vehicles."

Maynier said ideally about 40% of a budget should be spent on pay and benefits and the rest split equally between operations and capital acquisitions.

"The defence force needs to downsize to reduce expenditure on personnel so that it can properly fund operations and acquisitions."
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Goodbye to Badger IFV

Goodbye to Umkhonto 20km range

Goodbye to GBADS ground based air defense systems

Goodbye to imaginary Gowind OPV, impossible Leopard Tanks....dreams dreams

Goodbye to Long range missiles

Goodbye to Project Biro

Goodbye to A-darta missile

Goodbye to Every new major equipment SANDF dreamed of....your MRAPS below has no tyres..Goodbye

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patches689: 4000 men who were rotated every year and mainly composed of conscripts.

So, the war lasted about 25 years.

with 4000 men rotating through the theater on average every year.

This means that approximately 100,000 SADF personnel served on the border. Now reduce that number by about 1/3 (for members of the permanent force who did multiple tours) and what do you get?

This number is also excluding the surges for major operations during the dry season (as much as 20 000 for some periods) and it also excludes members from SAPS who did internal COIN ops in Nothern Namibia as well as SADF personnel serving in the Namibian Army, as well as BSAP members who served in Rhodesia

Lol, you claim to be an accountant but you are unable to do basic arithmetic.

Dude, I don't want to invest my time on you, but eat this gravel before I box you into a garbage bin....

Troops rotation, there is NO proof that South Africa rotated troops in Angola, all we read is propaganda that the apartheid regime published for the fools of this world to read and get confused. If at all SADF ever rotated troops, how comprehensive was it? It was not a UN peace keeping mission, so no world rules compel SADF to rotate soldiers.

Then SADF had serious manpower shortage and lacks soldiers, reason why Angolans/Namibians/Rhodesian/American/British men in thousands joined South African army to help reduce the grave effect of manpower shortage.

SADF of apartheid era NEVER and NEVER had 100,000 soldiers in its army ! For where ! Which army ? How many combatants were in old SADF army? Many were non-combatants too, cook/chef/musicians/accountants/administration/education/etc.

Rotation can be done with only 8,000 soldiers. Batch A of 4,000 men serve 6 months, Batch B of 4,000 men replace them. Batch A rests 6 months vacation. Then Batch A goes back again to relieve Batch B and vice versa.

Nigeria had 15,000 soldiers in ECOMOG, if we rotate with your foolish arithmetic that assumes combatant soldiers are endless in number, then from 1992 to 2002 Nigerian army deployed over 300,000 combatant soldiers fighting in those wars out of an army of 80,000 men.

How do you pick 300,000 men out of 80,000 ? You must be the worst mathematician in history. Fool !

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Msauza: [size=16pt] You Nigerian are fools of the century, even apes and chimpazees behave rather better than you. I regret of ever having Nigerian blood in my veins, if need be I would wash that gene away from my blood. Nigeria is a disgrace in Africa. Damn! [/size]

[size=16pt]....but you work so hard looking for a Nigerian girl to marry you....shameless

Msauza: Drop your number and stop judging, the train wiLl pass you by.

https://www.nairaland.com/1059880/looking-nigerian-chick

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Msauza: Innocent girls have their legs spread apart like in p.orn movies every bl.oody Night

You have a dirty mind @Msauza !

MikeZA: Yes,BH call Sambisa forest "South Africa".

Yes you are correct my brother, the evil in Sambisa forest is same as you have in South African society.

MikeZA: Shekau is still live...

...inside South Africa.

Helghast: Dude do you even know how hard it is to find one person, do you know the amount investigating that has to be done to find one person, a single person can be disguised in civilian clothing of made to look like the militants themselves and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference, one person is much, much easier to move and hide.

You lost over 200 people in one night, one damn night, and your so called "best special forces" have yet to rescue a single one of those girls, your forces are incompetent,
Immediately after your government had heard about the abductions, they should have deployed your special forces, and trackers and some of your fighter jets to provide aerial surveillance, supported by the drones that you keep bragging about and claiming are operational, 200 people are harder to move and hide than one person.

And the worst part is that Bokoharam mocked you and your military by showing you a video that the still had most of the girls in one place and they hadn't been separated yet, which was suppose to make it easier for you to track them down, but you still can't do s'hit about it YOU SUCK BALLZ, and don't tell us that U.S and other countries are also struggling to find the girls, because Nigeria is your country its your home no one knows it better than you guys, its like me asking you to come and find something I lost inside my own house, if I can't find it how the hell do I expect you to find it?
Your army your special forces are all useless the only combat experience they have is fighting inside a cocoon in their own back yard against cowards

Olodo, you call Boko Haram cowards? They do S.uicide B.ombing and k.ill themselves with the target, Boko Haram is braver than the whole South African armed forces combined.

Lost 200 girls kidnapped, well we know where they are held. We are just too smart to use force to free them. We will use Israeli tactics....slow but smart is the name of the game in hostage drama. How well did Kenyan army special forces perform in Nairobi shopping mall hostage crisis? Yet the failed Kenyan army is still more experienced in battle than today's South African army, all we read is past glory of long dead Recces of old apartheid SADF....nation of cowards as at today

FighterPilot: That is not an excuse. Your 5year old rag tag special forces won't even dare to kidnap their commander and take Shekau hostage. There are many ways to kill a cat and special forces know that, but sorry that is not for the small pea-sized brains like Naijapingoooooush. That task is just equal to the strong and mighty SA Recces.

Nigerian special forces k.illed the original Boko Haram leader Shekau in battle inside his own heavily defended forest camp.

History tells us that South African special forces were NEVER able to k.ill Angolan guerrilla top leaders in many years of Bush War....so who is the boss?....Nigeria !

Msauza: [size=16pt]
IN CAR, the Seleka rebels raised the white flag and not South Africans after suffering a major casualty of between 800-2000 from MGL, something they completely know nothing about.[/size]

Show us a direct war report from Seleka authorities that they raised white flag, no big rebel force in Africa since 30 years ago has ever raised white flag, even Mali rebels did not raise white flags to mighty France .

Show us proof, NOT a story told by South Africans, show us Seleka's directly reported side of the story from their own rebel source.

1,500 men will not surrender to 250 men that invaded their homeland, not in Africa of today. Even M23 rebels have not raised any white flag to a global UN mighty force that is 100 times more powerful than M23 rebels.

Show us proof of your false claim

patches689: Neither do the Germans, Spanish, Italian, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Polish, Finnish, Swedish or Norwegian militaries.

Just because a man has never personally done something... does it mean that he cannot be trained to do something?

Reminder: American soldiers with no combat experience annihilated the Iraqi army which had over a decade of combat experience

Nigerian special forces have ZERO conventional combat experince... Nigeria has never fought a serious war against a well trained well supplied enemy in its entire history.

And the final nail in your coffin... there are still very many men with combat experience.

Pic related, men with more combat experience than Nigeria could ever dream of.

Photos of less than 10 weak old men near retirement? 10 men out of 50,000 South African army of today? Prove that those men really fought in bush war, only 4,000 SADF men went to battle in Angola, a whole 18,000 SADF men sat down at home sleeping with their wives.

Those men in photo may even be military cook/chef like @Andrewza or administrative staff like @Fighter Pilot.

In future, @Andrewza and @Fighter Pilots photos will be posted by some fraudulent South Africans as experienced old soldiers who fought in Congo DRC and C.A.R Bangui...

We all know the two men were busy at home browsing Nairaland without ever firing one bullet from a rifle to kill one cockroach.

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MikeZA: The parabats have an reccon wing too. Elite units have. Reccon wings. The 32 battalion had that capability,but they were never part of the SADF special forces brigade. It is clearly written on your source that they're light infantry not special forces. Still you don't know what you're talking about. Confusing elite infantry with special forces. Soon you'll be saying 61 Mech are special forces.

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I did not write up that Wikipedia page, a South African did it. The info says 32 Battalion are also counted among the nicknamed Recces. If your own South African history is wrongly written go home and blame yourselves.

Whatever, one of the best experienced fighters in SADF were the 32 Battalion made up of Angolans blacks and South African whites mixed with foreign mercenary European/American whites.

I have proved a point, the experiened soldiers of South Africa no longer exist as a fighting unit, they are dead, disbanded, too old, retired, flushed out by Mandela's ANC, or run away overseas.

99% of today's South African armed forces have ZERO war experience . Live with this fact day by day, you hear me ? [/size]

NaijaPikinGidi: You must be silly. The USA has the best Special Forces yet could not rescue the lone prisoner of war held by the Talibans in Afghanistan. It took a prisoner swap to secure the release alive of that soldier! No matter your skill and experience as special force you can not secure the evacuation of 200 hostages without total collateral damage in the porous Sambisa Forest Reserve!

Your ignorance on such basics, is a reflection of the poor tactical rating of your SANDF. I wonder why after all the begging from your military fat stomachs, no one has resigned! Obviously, being in SANDF is the easiest job to get paid for without dropping a sweat!

How will they know how to handle hostage release? Current South Africa special forces have ZERO war experience. Smart South Africans have discovered the easiest way to get monthly salary without work....join the SANDF !

FighterPilot: [size=16pt] Stop the bus!!! And save yourself some further embarassment from your ignorance.[/size]

Your mother when she gave birth to you was really confused, that's why I don't blame you. You are as confused as she was. 32 Batallion was never Special force unit of South Africa. It consited mostly of foreign recruited forces of Angola and does not translate into the core SA Recce team of SADF as it was known at the time.

[size=16pt] Members of SA special forces were recently deployed to both CAR and DRC with zero casualties. One member of the recces you claimed not to have any combat experience made the longest sniper kill which took down to the annuls of history with Denel's NTW gun. Hope that is enough to have demostrated their capability than the rag tag special forces of Nigeria who are no match to Shekau's Boko boys. [/size]

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I proved that the South African recces are not just special forces men, other recces were counted under that name, both regular infantry recces and special forces recces all are nicknamed South African recces in the old SADF era. I posted photo and weblink for that proof.

How many special forces did South Africa deploy in Congo DRC ? The whole SANDF contingent was about 1,800 men. One sniper man special forces, has he become your full size brigade? One man army ? The sniper record k.ill is also not proven except on Wikipedia that cannot be trusted, your SANDF Brigadier General denied it, and no other source is able to prove it, just take it as usual South African propaganda.

Do you know what a war is ? 18 hour Battle in C.A.R with Seleka is NOT a war, NOT an enduring war that tests the long endurance skills of battle tested special forces.

No SF casualties in Bangui means only Parabats were fighting, likely you have no proven presence of South African special forces in Bangui, when we said they were there, you all denied it because of shame of the lost battle, now you say you had special forces there.

Well if so, they become part of the Paratroops disgrace.....

South African special forces raised white flag and surrendered to Seleka rebels in C.A.R. [/size]

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