Fighter Pilot: The truth is, SA is indeed the only country in Africa close to Europe. Ask your fellow citizens.
we dont argue about that, its common knowledge, about 5 million white men are south african residents and born citizens for over 100 years till today. so we understand.
Obrafour: The Nigerian satellite has four gateways said to be located in South Africa, China, Italy and Northern Nigeria. Can gurus in the house please confirm this?
mojeer678: As has been already stated, if all what 8 PhDs could come up with is this, then it's true that the nation's education sector is due for an urgent resuscitation.
You can't get such a crude imitation from a radio shack not to mention a high school science fair!
And while you mentioned the emphasis on 'indigenous' as the key word, is the Cranfield University UK training meant to be ironic?
that nigerian PhD team is the first 100% black people technocrats to fully build a drone/UAV in the world.
show us the photos of the technical team behind DENEL's drones and we will find mostly white men there with a few blacks as figure-heads
how many black south africans have PhD degrees ? the whites still rule your countrys economic, finance, and human capital sector
the whites still suck your blood like bed-bugs and they wont stop looting your gold and minerals
those nigerian Phd and MSc team members are also building a nigerian air force new trainer & light warplane called FARAWA aircraft, those guys are part of the team that totally dis-assemble and re-assemble nigerian air force F-7 jet fighters at random...you dont know what nigeria is ?
nigeria is not a dwarf country like swaziland that south africa sourrounds like a piece of cake
mojeer678: As has been already stated, if all what 8 PhDs could come up with is this, then it's true that the nation's education sector is due for an urgent resuscitation.
You can't get such a crude imitation from a radio shack not to mention a high school science fair!
And while you mentioned the emphasis on 'indigenous' as the key word, is the Cranfield University UK training meant to be ironic?
dude you just forgot ? south africans have the second dullest brains in the world and i can see clearly that you are one of them
[size=16pt]nigerian air force has 3 Gulma drones/UAV all flying...fully operational...more units coming[/size]
"There are 3 Gulmas – Nos. 609, 610 & 611, all functional. Manufacturing is on going as well as improvements and enhancements…its part of every development cycle."
zaandrew: It all so has no missiels of any kind or any means to defend against a air attack. It is prety much a only good for fighting pirats.
Not to menstion thanks to drakensberg the SA navy can sail a task force any where in the world.
south african navy CANNOT sail a task force to anywhere in the world because the range of your SAS Drakensberg is only 15,000km and it cannot sail to Alaska state of America (U.S.A), only nigerian navy NNS Thunder can do that with her super long range 26,000km ...get it ?
not all warships have missiles. 90% of african navy warships have NO missile.
NNS Thunder firepower will sink that your south african SAS Drakensberg in 30 minutes with all your task force down to sea bottom.
NNS Thunder firepower will sink all the warships of about 30 of the 36 countries that have a navy in africa. get it ?
NNS Thunder remains the longest range warship in the whole of africa and it can sail around the whole continent on one fuel tank without stopping anywhere to refuel, get it ?
rka1: Organisation Structure of The Nigerian Air Force
Training Command
The first requirement of any air force is a constant supply of a crop of highly motivated and competent airmen and airwomen. No matter the level of sophistication of platforms, they cannot attain the mission objectives if the personnel behind them are ill trained and incompetent.
The NAF therefore places great premium on training and re-training of its personnel to ensure a high state of readiness at all times.
To achieve optimum personnel skills at reasonable costs, the NAF established the to enable her embark on the development of an internal training capacity. The Command is tasked with the responsibility for all local training both in the air and on the ground. Since its establishment in August 1978, TC has been involved in the provision of both initial and advanced training for NAF pilots, paratroopers and air traffic controllers.
Ground training is also provided for support services and technical personnel. So far, the Command has trained over 1,699 Officers and 10,150 airmen and women in various trade specialities. The Command is organised into a Command Headquarters located in Kaduna with three Staff Branches namely: Operations, Logistics and Administration. The Air Officer Commanding (AOC) heads the Command, assisted by a Senior Air Staff Officer and Principal Staff Officers. There are 10 field units under the Command comprising 3 flying training schools, 2 ground training facilities, a logistics group, 3 medical facilities and 2 other administrative units. The locations of the units are as follows: i. 301 Flying Training School, Kaduna. ii. 303 Flying Training School, Kano. iii. 305 Flying Training School, Enugu. iv. 320 Technical Training Group, Kaduna. v. 325 Ground Training Group, Kaduna. vi. 330 NAF Station Jos. vii. 333 Logistics Group, Kaduna. viii. 335 Base Services Group, Kaduna. ix. 345 Aeoromedical Hospital, Kaduna. x. NAF Hospital, Jos. xi. The Aeromedical Centre Project at Kaduna.
301 Flying Training School The 301 Flying Training School (301 FTS) is the cradle of pilot training in the NAF. It started as the Light Transport and Liaison Squadron in 1964 and was charged with the responsibility of converting NAF pilots who were returning home from overseas training. However, with the outbreak of the Civil War in 1967, the nation’s need for pilots increased while the available slots for pilots’ training overseas became inadequate to meet the country’s operational needs. Consequently, the Light Liaison Transport Squadron was tasked to undertake primary flying training in addition to its original task of converting NAF pilots. As a result, the Squadron grew in strength and was later redesignated as the Primary Flying Training Wing (PFTW). Following further expansion and subsequent re-organisation of the NAF in 1984, the Wing was upgraded and renamed the 301 Flying Training School (301 FTS). The school has over the years, used several aircraft types for ab-initio training purposes. It started training with the Piaggio-149D aircraft from Germany. This was later replaced with the Bulldog 123. Other aircraft types operated in the 60s and 70s were the DO-27, DO-28 and DO 128-2. Currently, the aircraft holding of the school include the Airbeetle ABT-18, Dornier 128-6 and the DO-228 aircraft series. Since its inception, the school has trained over 600 pilots for the NAF including the first set of pilots for the Nigerian Navy. The school has assisted in the training of pilots from friendly African countries including 5 from the Republic of Benin, 4 from Cape Verde, 3 from Niger Republic, 10 from Zimbabwe and one from Sierra Leone. These are spread between Student Pilot Courses 1 and 32 (SP 1 to Sp 32) with the present batch undergoing training as SP 33. The number of students trained could have been higher but for the six year period (1988-1994), when NAF suffered a debilitating lull in training due to lack of funds to sustain training. However, with the emphasis on training by the current NAF leadership, the School is fully operational and the training backlog is being redressed. 301 FTS is also tasked to conduct operational conversion, type-rating and recurrency training for NAF transport pilots on the Dornier aircraft series. Furthermore, it provides light liaison and VIP transport as well as courier services for the NAF. Besides it primary roles of ab-initio and transport pilot training, 301 FTS has featured in aerial displays during NAF and National day celebrations. It has also been involved in various internal security initiatives and joint exercises. Prominent among these are the Maitatsine Crises in Kano, the Ops Harmony series in the Northeastern parts of the country and simulated air cover during Nigerian Defence Academy cadets training exercises.
303 Flying Training School Following the Statutory Act of Parliament that officially established the NAF in April 1964, some basic organizational structure was put in place for the nascent service to function properly. One of these structures was the Nigerian Air Force Tactical and Technical Wing (NAFTW) Kaduna, comprising the Military Training School (MTS), Light Transport and Liaison Squadron (LTLS) and support elements of administration, engineering and supply. NAF Kano was born out of the LTLS in August 1967. NAF Kano, then a detachment was established as a result of the expansion embarked upon by the NAF to prosecute the civil war. At that time, the unit was tasked with conducting operational training for combat crew on the L-29, MiG 15 and 17 aircraft types. In 1969, the detachment was transformed into a pilot training institution with student pilots of Basic Flying Course One (BFC 1) as the first intake. Today, 11 basic flying courses have been concluded with the current one being BFC 12 Bravo. During the post civil war reorganization between 1970 and 1975 the unit was renamed Advanced Flying Training Wing (AFTW). However, by March 1975, the station was upgraded to a group status known as Flying Training Group (FTG) with two Flying Wings namely, Primary Flying Training Wing (PFTW) stationed at Kaduna and Basic Flying Training Wing (BFTW) located in Kano. The MiG 21s and Alpha Jets were at various times stationed at Kano before relocating to their bases at Makurdi and Kainji. The school attained its present status in 1985, when it was renamed 303 Flying Training School (303 FTS), with the sole responsibility of conducting basic flying training on jet aircraft using the L-29 aircraft type. The L-29 aircraft hitherto used as basic trainer aircraft was later phased out due to age and replaced with the MB-339 Aermachi in June 1985. By 1986, the L-39ZA aircraft was introduced as the basic trainer, while the MB-339 was re-roled as a close support aircraft. In 1989, the Instructor Pilot Training Wing was established to give NAF a capacity to train its instructor pilots locally. The wing, which was initially designated as Instructor Pilot School (IPS), was meant to be an independent unit to be located in Minna (Niger State). However following the rationalization of NAF units, the IPS remained in Kano as a wing under 303 FTS. The primary role of the Instructor Pilot Training Wing (IPTW) is to produce instructor pilots on fast jet aircraft for the NAF. Since its inception, the 303 FTS has trained 112 pilots comprising Nigerians and foreigners. The foreigners include 4 pilots from Zimbabwe and 8 Ghanaians who attended a conversion course on the L-29 aircraft. As in the case of the primary training programmes, the lull of 1988 to 1994 also affected the basic flying training programme. However with the re-newed focus on training by the current NAF leadership, a new momentum has been introduced into the activities of the school.
305 Flying Training School The 305 Flying Training School (305 FTS) Enugu, metamorphosed from NAF Station Enugu, which was established in the mid-1970s. NAF Station Enugu was the home of the MiG 17 fighter aircraft until 1981, when the Headquarters of Tactical Air Command (HQ TAC) and Air Defence Group (ADG) were established at Makurdi. Subsequently, following the recognition of the need to train its own helicopter pilots locally, the NAF established 305 FTS as an ab-initio and basic helicopter flying school. Being the first and only one of its kind in the sub-region, the 305 FTS was established to provide helicopter training for pilots of the NAF and sister Services of the armed forces as well as friendly African countries. On 22 February 1987, the pioneer set of helicopter pilots to be trained locally commenced training as Basic Helicopter Flying Course 1 (BHFC 1) on the Hughes 300C helicopter. However, during the rationalisation of NAF units in 1991, the School was downgraded to a wing status and relocated to 97 Special Operations Group Port Harcourt, while what was left became a NAF detachment. In subsequent years, the need to have an autonomous helicopter training school to complement the fixed wing schools at 301 and 303 FTS led to the re-establishment of 305 FTS Enugu in June 2000. By 2001, the unit became active again and the Mi-34C trainer helicopter was introduced into NAF inventory to replace the Hughes 300. The same lull that befell NAF aircrew training also affected this school, thus since its inception, only 2 courses have been graduated with BHFC 3 just about to commence flying. The unit currently conducts local type-rating courses for its engineers and technicians.
320 Technical Training Group The Nigerian Civil War resulted in the introduction of a variety of aircraft and associated weapon systems into the service of the then young NAF. The introduction of these weapon systems brought with it a corresponding increase in the need for skilled manpower to operate and maintain these machines. The NAF at that time relied on her foreign partners to develop the required manpower. The idea of establishing a NAF Logistics and Supply School was initiated after the Civil War in 1970, in order to increase the number of training slots and to conserve scarce foreign exchange. The Nigerian Air Force Technical Training Wing was thus established in 1977 with the collaboration of Messrs Dornier GMBH of Germany. The School was established to provide basic training for officers and men in the fields of aircraft maintenance, armament technology, supply and maintenance of ground communication equipment. It was also the responsibility of the Group to conduct relevant up-grading courses for all logistics trade specialists in the NAF. The quality training offered by the schools has helped considerably in enhancing the NAF’s maintenance capabilities. The school has also trained a good number of personnel from the air forces of friendly sister African countries.
325 Ground Training Group The 325 Ground Training Group started as Military Training School (MTS) under NAF Tactical Training Wing (NAFTTW) when the NAF Base Kaduna was established in 1963. It was responsible for the training of recruits. The MTS was re-designated Military Training Wing (MTW) in 1975 when NAFTTW was upgraded to become NAF Ground Training Group (NAFGTG). The Wing was later upgraded to a group status and called Military Training Group (MTG) in 1984. When a new establishment came into effect in 1991, the then Administrative Services Training Group (ASTG) was merged with MTG to form the Ground Training Group (GTG). With the Establishment Order of 2000, the Group was re-designated as 325 Ground Training Group. Over the years the unit’s roles have widened to cover provision of non-technical training in other air force specialities, particularly with the suspension of overseas training for certain trade specialties for both officers and airmen. These include basic and further training in personnel and accounting specialities, air police, physical education and regiment courses.
330 NAF Station Jos The NAF Station Jos was established to provide administrative and logistics support for the military schools namely, the Air Force Military School (AFMS) and the Air Force Girls Military School (AFGMS). Since inception, the AFMS and AFGMS have turned out 1,500 junior airmen and 588 junior airwomen respectively. The AFGMS has since become a Comprehensive Secondary School following NAF’s decision to de-emphasise rigorous military training for girls.
333 Logistics Group The 333 Logistic Group is responsible for 3rd and 4th line maintenance of aircraft used for flying training operations at 301 FTS and the 81 Air Maritime Group. The 4th line maintenance function of the Group also involves the conduct of the periodic engine overhaul on the DO128-6 and DO-228 aircraft. In addition to its maintenance task, the unit co-ordinates the local training programme for the NAF engineers and technicians on the aircraft types within its locality. It is noteworthy that the 333 Logistics Group recently commenced the reactivation of its equipment in readiness for Research and Development (R & D) projects. The R & D programme is intended to enable the unit to produce various aircraft components and spares. The Group worked assiduously in the joint NAF and Messrs Dornier-AEIP venture, to produce the first locally manufactured aircraft type in Nigeria, the Air Beetle ABT-18.
335 Base Services Group The 335 BSG like its counterparts in TAC and LC is responsible for providing welfare and administrative support services for the various groups located in its vicinity. It also provides similar support to HQ TC, the Air Faculty of the Armed Forces Command and Staff College and the Air Wing of the Nigerian Defence Academy.
345 Aeromedical Hospital The Aeromedical Hospital located in the Kaduna Base is the only one of its type in the NAF. The hospital was recently upgraded to the status of a 60-bed hospital. The upgrading is designed to enable the hospital meet the increasing demand for medical health care in the Kaduna Base and the NAF as a whole. This hospital also conducts annual medical fitness examinations for all aircrew specialties as well as routine medical examinations for NAF personnel right from the point of intake. It is expected that in the near future, the hospital will be fully equipped to the standard of a teaching and research hospital.
NAF Hospital Jos The NAF Hospital, Jos provides health care services for NAF personnel and the 2 NAF secondary schools in Jos.
Aeromedical Centre Project More than two decades ago, the NAF realized the need for a well-equipped medical facility to cater solely for the specialized medical demands of its aircrew. The objective is to enhance safety by ensuring that only medically fit personnel are allowed to fly. Consequently, efforts were made to establish an aeromedical centre. It is expected that on completion, the NAF Aeromedical Centre will be a centre of excellence with one of the most comprehensive facilities in the world. The facility is expected to reduce aircrew training cost compared with the cost of training personnel abroad. It will also reduce accident rates attributable to human factors. Besides, it will improve the selection process of potential pilots, while engineers and technicians will be exposed to new developments in the aviation industry. It is hoped that the Aeromedical Centre will also provide the same services to the civil aviation sector and conduct relevant research into peculiar problems associated with flying in tropical environments.
[size=16pt]NNS Thunder now Africa's longest range blue water Navy warship .[/size]
The extremely long-ranged NNS Thunder, capable of handling a voyage of 26,000 kms at ‘economic speeds’, is the only naval ship in Africa today which is able to execute a total circumnavigation of the continent’s 26,000km coastline on one full tank – without the need for refuelling, that is. It underscores her deserved status as an EEZ patrol asset of the highest value in Nigerian naval service.
PatriotZAR: On the other hand, Nigerian Air Force is so incompetent that they rely on pakistanis for maintainenace, Training and capacity building.
same way your south african Gripen jet pilots traveled to sweden to learn how to fly Gripen jets and build capacity by going back again to sweden for multinational joint training.....or you think your pilots learned how to fly Gripen jets by sitting down at home in soweto and reading the manufacturer's manual ? you are just a big joke man !
PatriotZAR: Ai.. How pathetic can an Air Force be that it would lack the capacity of training capable Pilots? Damn our Saab Griphens would have a field day blowing up what's left of Naaigeria. Being the unprofessional people you are, you won't know what hit you!
well about shooting down nigerian jets, ALL your current Gripen jet pilots have ZERO combat experience and hardly ever practice, they just drink and get drunk as i showed you in those photos, all you have are a bunch of half-baked alcohol intoxicated jet pilots....they will probably shoot each other down in the air and call it 'friendly fire accidents'
a nigerian will have 10 children when they hardly have enough to feeds themselves. no wonder that dustbin country is now sh1nigeria
and to think that these criminals sell more than two million barrels of oil daily and yet remain so desperately poor!
a country full of impoverished, brutish, simple-minded ediots
[size=16pt]south africa : nation of mad men & lunatics[/size]
schizophrenic mad men lunatics represent south africa at world events, means south africa is a nation of madmen
Nelson Mandela 'fake' interpreter admitted to psychiatric hospital. Thamsanqa Jantjie, who says he had schizophrenic episode at memorial, was taken for check-up then admitted
faith96: Ghana,Kenya,south African versus the ant of Africa, What does it tell this stewpeed Nigerians that they ain't what they think they are. Should you all fight other Africans like rabid dogs just because they don't hold you all in your imaginary mighty and glory helm. Nigerians popping babies like rats does not make you Mother Africa.loud mouthed Nigerians won greatest stupidity awards, Real super powers like China,USA and such do not go around chest thumping and castigating others. They are civilized. You all have a long way to go.
south africa + kenya + ghana VS nigeria alone, outnumbered 3 to 1, and we squeeze your balls till they burst, shows nigeria is a real giant.
our God given big towering status scares most other africa countries except the truly great nations like Egypt and Algeria who hold us in high esteem and seek for our good, they have done better to us than even our own so called black African brothers.
Nigeria is not arrogant, we are a gentle giant, we love our fellow blacks like brothers, we are the big brother that sacrificed the lives of 1,000 nigerian soldiers who died and left their children fatherless just to save the people of Liberia and Sierra Leone from total self-destruction of millions of lives.
we also saved Mali, we rescued black South Sudan to become an independent country from Arab Republic Of Sudan.
we saved the blacks in Dafur Region from genocide, mass murder and mass R.ape of women in the hands of half-Arab supporters of APC and Omar El-Bashir's Arabic Sudan National Army and Air Force that killed about 15 Nigerian soldiers in the night in an unprovoked attack.
South Africa, Kenya, and Ghana did almost nothing to help these millions of dying Africans, Nigeria did almost everything alone.
Nigeria spent $10 Billion of our own oil money to save Liberia and Sierra Leone.
if with all that Nigeria is still hated, i am not surprised because people hated Jesus Christ a holy man and saviour and finally crucified a good man.
you haters can go on to crucify Nigeria, we remain the Saviour of Africa, without us, this continent will be a total disaster.
zaandrew: Piza companys are building drones these days. It is not somthing to go wow over most of the tech is comecail of the shelf these days.
look here mister, the country where i live is far more advanced than your over-rated south africa, and it is an old story here that some door to door sales companies dream of using civilian single-role drones to deliver products, NOT a military use type of drone.
show me which Pizza company has built a drone with spare parts off the shelf that has the same eleven functions/uses of nigerian Gulma drone.
Second dullest brains in the world according to World Economic Forum Report year 2013.
PatriotZAR: Lol you don't even trust yourselves to test flight these drones.
We all know why - you don't want them to come crashing down from incompetence just like your F-7 crap aircrafts. Time to buy some new multirole birds, you're an oil rich nation! Oh wait....
The giant of Crap!
Lol your Gripen jet pilots are only a bunch of drunkards who spend their time drinking away their youth and career instead of flying to be competent.
only 6 of them are qualified, the rest of your Gripen jets pilots would have crashed into Shoprite malls and kill innocent p.eople, the only reason we dont see them crashing is because they dont really fly at all and practice combat maneuvers.
PatriotZAR: The Gulma/Amebo doesn't deserve any kind of credit, rka1. It is a piece of crap! That's it!
south african Hungwe drone too is a piece of over-rated crap !!!!
if you want to trade insults about nigerian equipment, i am ready to pay you back in your own coin. you ready for a fight ?
PatriotZAR: ''Gulma was developed indigenously'' No it was developed indigenously. You had help from Cranfield University aerospace engineers. Without their help there wouldn't be any so called Gulma UAV.
Russia helped China to build MiG 21 and later F-7 jet. China helped Pakistan to build JF-17 jet. Israel helped South Africa to build Cheetah jet.
Israel helped South Africa to build nuclear weapons.
ALL South African missile technology in DENEL today came from direct Israeli help/wholesale transfer with training, technology, designs, blue prints, and working engineers all from Israel which South Africa paid for in cash.
so whats your point dude ? ya wanna sling mud ? am a big time mud slinger in case ya didin't know !
PatriotZAR: I will await your comparison. @Agaugust, Would you do me the honour of making comparisons of your latest british made Gulma UAV to our entirely locally produced Seeker 400 UAV? I cannot find much info on it other than...
'' it is powered by 17hp engine... Operates via radio control on a micro pilot FCS avionics System... Maximum altitide of 10 000 feet... Endurance of 5.5hours'
Does it have electro-optical/infrared imaging and radar like the Seeker 400? How about an electronic surveillance payload than can detect and locate radar emitters?
Lol...
Troop101: @Agaugust come make yourself a fool............ Naai head (kop)
just like Toyota corolla and camry belong to different categories, Gulma is like a Corolla and Seeker 400 is like a Camry.
nigerian Gulma drone and south african Hungwe drone are both 'Corolla category', they both have almost exactly the same size, shape, and technical specifications of speed,range,altitude,endurance etc.
Gulma is new, and new hardware dont get their full technical details spilled out in one day.
of course Gulma will do the job of a world class drone/UAV as proved from its operational profile, and that gives you an idea of what equipment it carries on board to do those functions below....
Application Areas :
1. Surveillance (Army, Navy, Air Force, Secret Service Intelligence)
now above are the eleven different applications of Gulma drone, and that is the best any world class drone can do apart from arming with guns/missiles which can come later.
those eleven functions above will not be performed using some local witchcraft magical mixtures, the eleven can only be done by modern electronic equipment.
did you ever ask seleka rebels how their rifles work ? no, because their rifle does its job of killing south african soldiers. same with Nigerian Gulma drone, forget about how it works if our air force does not tell you details, because Gulma will do its job of spying on you
1.You don't see South Africans standing overnight on long queues just to get a visa to Nigeria.
2.South Africans are not over flooding countries that do no want them.
1. Nigerians are hard working, South Africans dont want to work, they mostly depend on government cash handouts and financial support for the lazy citizens. Nigerians are doing all the jobs in our country, so we dont need help from lazy South Africans who depend on immigrants to take over their jobs...and their women
2. No country in the world wants South Africans because most of you are lazy, drunkards ensalved to koeldrank, poorly educated, never been to university...low value low quality human resources make up the nation of South Africa....so nobody wants you because you have the second dullest brains in the world
Henry120: Test flight of the new nigerian made UAV. As an add on, the video also shows you nigerian made inoson mini bus. Now, a round of applause for the nigerians.
Fighter Pilot: Even when the records speaks for themselves you are still habouring the tendency of denying the truths.
I have recently found out from military experts that SA has even more potential in war than your favourate Egypt. Egypt has all the weapons but they lack passion and endurance.
SA, yes can defeat Egypt.
South Africa had zero endurance to fight ordinary Seleka rebels for one day, how will you have endurance to fight Egypt's 1.5 million man army ?
you better write your will now and sign your own death warrant, because Egypt will speed up your premature obituary