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CraigB: Jungle noises!

Get to work. Show us who has complained about the quality of our submarine prototype.

So give us a list. Who has complained about our submarine prototypes? Give it your best shot. Go!

your very own country's south african weapons and defence experts have complaints, that the worst imaginable.....swallow it fast and choke

read now you fool of a debtor nation buying submarines that have a half dead battery on credit with bank loans


"The SAS Manthatisi, the first of the country's submarines acquired in the multibillion-rand arms deal, has been in the dry dock since 2007 after a series of mishaps, including crashing into a quay and damaging her steering mechanism.

Then a power cable was incorrectly plugged into her shore power-supply system, causing damage. The vessel's propulsion batteries, which cost R35-million, are being replaced.

Arms deal activist Terry Crawford-Browne said the incident was further proof of the folly of the arms deal. "South Africa has not yet paid for these submarines. They are being financed by Commerzbank until 2016, these loans being underwritten by Hermes and German taxpayers," he said.


"This is another example of what happens in arms deals all the time, but it seems to be happening more than most in our deals. We were sold equipment that seems to be of dubious quality, we were sold it at inflated prices because of the bribes that were paid, and the performance of this equipment has been very poor," said Feinstein"

soweto fools, scammed of their hard borrowed cash by white men from europe again

http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2012/08/12/not-one-of-the-r8-billion-arms-deal-submarines-is-operational

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Msauza: South African Submarines are fully operational, your information is outdated.
Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

Queen Modjadji nose dived and was repared and maintained and all three subs are now fully operational.

http://www.jbaynews.com/sas-queen-modjaji-takes-a-nosedive/

fact remains that in August 12th 2012 all 3 south african submarines purchased with bank loans $800 million all broke down, crashed to the sea bottom, crashed to the sea port concrete, had battery failure. soweto ripped of by the whites again.

you borrowed more money to repair your sub-standard submarines as soon as they were purchased, more debt, more interest, growing gbese of baba alajo

http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2012/08/12/not-one-of-the-r8-billion-arms-deal-submarines-is-operational

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Msauza: South African Submarines are fully operational, your information is outdated.
Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

Queen Modjadji nose dived and was repared and maintained and all three subs are now fully operational.

http://www.jbaynews.com/sas-queen-modjaji-takes-a-nosedive/

same way nigeria's israeli drones/UAV are operational....your wrong infromation is outdated. hahahaha

https://www.nairaland.com/415620/strongest-military-africa/888

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NaijaPikinGidi: We did it too for Zimbabwe! See Mrs Thatcher's letter begging Nigeria not to nationalize British Petroleum (BP).

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nigeria remains the greatest african country.

Msauza: The fact remains you have been stripped of cash for scraps.

The fact remains you have been stripped of $800m borrowed money for sub-standard submarines.

NaijaPikinGidi: South Africans will never realize the sacrifices of African leaders and their people to liberate them from the strangle grip of their white minority oppressors. The efforts of such leaders culminated in freedom of South Africa's black majority and giving crucial moral, financial and vocal support and credibility to the ANC leadership of Mr. Mandela. Africa's collective refusal of Aparthied was the strength behind the survival of beloved Mr. Mandela. A man is not usually born great ... he is made great by the circumstances, challenges, people and structures that enable him succeed! Mandela will always be great ... thanks to the unsung people who lifted him above his circumstances and challenges.

See below a letter from Nigeria's former Head of State during the height of South Africa's struggle to Britains Prime Minister Mrs Thatcher.

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http://ipan.co.za/wp/?p=2638
http://ipan.co.za/posts/Obasanjo%20-%20Thatcher.pdf



August 1986



Dear Margaret,

After our meeting on Sunday, I write as one committed democrat to another. Yours is an old country with a lengthy democratic tradition; mine a new country undergoing a press of nation-building. But as democrats, we can be frank with each other.

As you know, I came to the EPG (Eminent Persons’ Group) mission with reluctance. It was difficult enough for me as an African and especially as a Nigerian to contemplate exchanging pleasantries with those responsible for the institutionalised oppression of so many of my brothers and sisters.

My repugnance was exacerbated by the widely held perception that the EPG was a substitute for action won by you at Nassau for the benefit of P.W. Botha. However, I persuaded myself that whatever the odds, the prize was so great that I should overcome my personal feelings.
Not that I was prepared for what we found. As you know, even Tony Barber – a frequent traveller to South Africa – was appalled by what he was to see in that other South Africa which visitors seldom see. We jointly expressed our shock and dismay in our report.

I have seen extremes of poverty and of oppression in many parts of the world. But South Africa unashamedly moulds both elements into a system which enables the white minority to enjoy a “Dallas” lifestyle at the expense of the great majority forced to endure conditions as degrading as anything I have seen anywhere.

In our discussions, Malcom Fraser and I tried to convey the true nature of the system and were against cosmetic changes which have merely softened the face of apartheid.

However, such was our discussion that I must ask: Did you even read our report?

I infer from what you said that afternoon that you had not. You concentrated on the trivia of the Government’s “reforms” – like the welcome but essentially insignificant repeal of the Mixed Marriages Act – and ignored their implacable opposition to changes in the basic pillars of apartheid.

As we emphasised, to begin to dismantle apartheid, the Population Registration Act and the Group Areas Act must be repealed without being replaced by some measure designed to achieve the same ends under a different guise.

You gave credence to the dangerous notion that the political rights of the dispossessed can be adequately met by what President Botha calls “group rights” at the expense of individual rights and freedoms. Despite all the talk of “power sharing” between different communities, our inescapable conclusion was that this was a cloak for power remaining in white hands, and the essentials of apartheid continuing unchanged.
Nor have you any appreciation of the issue of violence. The apartheid system has an inherent violence which, through forced removals and the creation of barren homelands, has created the fiction of a white land and through the barrel of the gun, denies blacks any form of legitimate political expression.

We are all opposed to violence other than in self-defence. Why should blacks not have a right to defend their own families, homes and freedoms?

Your “moral revulsion” for sanctions struck me as unconvincing. The economic sanctions you so energetically pursued against Poland, Afghanistan and Argentina were brushed aside in your determination to withhold their application to South Africa. Yet to many of us there is only one significant difference: the victims in South Africa are black. Is sauce for the Aryan goose not sauce for the Negroid gander?
Your concentration of the economic effectiveness of sanctions is disingenuous if not hypocritical. Sanctions were imposed against Poland, Afghanistan and Argentina as political expressions of outrage.

Nor can your opposition be based on any assessment of where the best interests of Britain lie. Your country has considerable trade with South Africa, but this is dwarfed by that enjoyed with the rest of Africa: it cannot be in Britain’s interests to encourage them to place their orders elsewhere.

Further, your appearance as an apologist challenges the democratic forces in South Africa to seek help from whatever quarter they can. The longer-term consequences for Britain, the United States and the West could be considerable.

But most of all, I was dismayed by your lack of vision. You offered no action as an alternative to sanctions. You insisted that nothing whatever be done – even though in the final analysis you moved a little. There is no vision of a way ahead; simply a forlorn hope that P.W. Botha would experience a “Road to Damascus” conversion on the road to Soweto. Such hopes are in vain.

Sooner or later, Botha or his successor will be driven to negotiate meaningfully. Sir Geofferey’s visit again confirmed that Botha is not yet under sufficient pressure to do so – despite a dwindling rand, escalating inflation, a declining economy and mounting violence. More pressure must come.

I must tell you that many people around the world view your continued opposition to sanctions as founded on instinct, not logic and as displaying a misguided tribal loyalty and myopic political vision. The consequences of such perceptions are far-reaching for a country which has traditionally claimed the high ground of principle.

Not only does the mental laager of the Boer seem to be mirrored in your own attitudes, but his fatal concessions of too little, too late are paralleled by your actions.

I am glad that the Commonwealth has moved on without you and I know that sooner rather than later, Britain will have to join us. I also know that apartheid will end, and its demise will be the product of a combination of internal and external pressures. The equation is a simple one. The less the external pressure, the greater will be the price to be paid internally.

Those who seek to minimise sanctions and their effect will have the blood of thousands, if not millions, of innocents on their hands and on their consciences. My heart will be heavy but my hands will be clean. Will yours?

(General Olusegun Obasanjo was Head of the Federal Military Government of Nigeria 1976 – 79 when he handed over power to an elected civilian government. He is also a member of the Commonwealth Eminent Persons’ Group)

the truth is bitter.

esin yo tan, o pe olowo re ni were (yoruba)
horse chop belle full, him dey call him master mad man (english)

Msauza: Two French soldiers killed overnight in CAR.

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25313817

....but the french army is still controlling its own area. south african army ran away for ever, soweto cowards

Fighter Pilot: Chief, just accept that you have been dubbed of your hard cash. Just imagine buying a new set of shoes and only to find that your shoes have a factory fault. You find out that your newly bought shoes have no stiches at all and thereafter the dealer asks you to sew them yourself. That is very hearthobbing indeed.

Your country is being taken for granted by foreigners under the noses of your leaders. You see where the problem come from, trusting westerners over your neighbours. You should have put your order with Denel and with $260 million we could have given you something better, a killer drones which you can arm with missiles and offer technical maintenance for free.

fact remains that nigeria has 12 drones/UAV flying and working.

any equipment can develop electrical faults and be repaired. nigerian drones having fault is nothing new.

now if you live in a glass house, dont throw stones my boy.....



[size=16pt]all south africa's 3 units $800 million submarines went out of operation...technical faults

all 3 submarines were purchased on credit, so debt still hanging, not yet paid.

bribery and corruption involved in the submarine purchase

quality of submarines is sub-standard[/size]



News Bobby Jordan | 12 August, 2012.

"Not one of the R8 billion arms deal submarines is operational as at the time of writing this report.

South Africa's fleet of attack submarines, which cost an estimated R8-billion in the infamous arms deal, are all in dry dock after the only operational vessel crashed into the seabed.

President Jacob Zuma established a commission of inquiry into the arms deal in September last year to probe allegations of fraud, corruption and impropriety.

Arms deal activist Terry Crawford-Browne said the incident was further proof of the folly of the arms deal. "South Africa has not yet paid for these submarines. They are being financed by Commerzbank until 2016, these loans being underwritten by Hermes and German taxpayers," he said.


"This is another example of what happens in arms deals all the time, but it seems to be happening more than most in our deals. We were sold equipment that seems to be of dubious quality, we were sold it at inflated prices because of the bribes that were paid, and the performance of this equipment across the board has been, to put it politely, very poor," said Feinstein. "

http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2012/08/12/not-one-of-the-r8-billion-arms-deal-submarines-is-operational

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Fighter Pilot: South Africa has three satellites in orbit.

http://www.iweek.co.za/on-the-cover/sa-leads-satellite-game-in-africa

http://www.itweb.co.za/mobilesite/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=69230

http://www.sabc.co.za/news/a/6feb8c00415879a38b87bf93343a19ea/South-Africa-to-launch-third-satellite-into-space-next-month-20130510

south africa has NO satellite except one cube of sugar your university students launched last month to experiment with very low level weather forecasting for campus students.

south africa has NO real satellite, we proved it beyond doubt on this thread many times. dont take this thread backwards with your fake weblinks of expired junk old satellites that died long before mandela


south african satellite crashed long ago, your military is blind like a bat , they cannot see the enemy from a distance
https://www.bobandtom.com/cimages/var/bobandtom/storage/images/repository/photos/satellite-bus-crash/263253-1-eng-US/Satellite-Bus-Crash_photo_medium.jpg
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Fighter Pilot: Two French soldiers killed in CAR:

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25313817

if its were south african army, they would have run away to the airport, sprinting olympic style like usain bolt

Fighter Pilot: Chief, just accept that you have been dubbed of your hard cash. Just imagine buying a new set of shoes and only to find that your shoes have a factory fault. You find out that your newly bought shoes have no stiches at all and thereafter the dealer asks you to sew them yourself. That is very hearthobbing indeed.

Your country is being taken for granted by foreigners under the noses of your leaders. You see where the problem come from, trusting westerners over your neighbours. You should have put your order with Denel and with $260 million we could have given you something better, a killer drones which you can arm with missiles and offer technical maintenance for free.

south africa does NOT have any weapon armed drone in service as at today. just planning to develop an equipment does NOT mean it is already in your military armoury....you brain thinks like a 6 year old kid

nigeria does NOT need to buy DENEL drones or more Israeli drones, Amebo drone III is fully made in nigeria by our air force we dont even need to pay for it because NAF manufactured it by its own air force officers who are enginneers.

now ride your village donkey to mandela's funeral

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is any south african military man bold enough to show me how your over-rated and poorly armed Gripen jets and Hawk jets will face nigerian NNS ARADU at sea combat without being shot down and torn into many pieces ?[/size]



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DictatorZAR: Just give your honest answer, is the NNS Aradu amongst the top 20 frigates currently in service in the world.

Can you go and tell this fairy tale on other credible Naval forums and lets see how your NNS aradu with its 1970's otomats mkII will be laughed at.

We've been through this sh.it before. I dare you to post this sh..it on defenseweb or any other blog.

is your brain locked up by a herbalist juju ? do you ever learn ?

i told you 7 x 7 times that weapon platforms dont fight according to their age, name, or model, but according to the armaments/ordinance/munitions they carry.

NNS ARADU's Otomat anti-ship missiles are the most deadly in the world, and defeated the whole american navy's modern warships in live combat testing, Otomat is a partial-stealth missile your dull brain does not know.

i challenge any south african military general or analyst to face me on NNS ARADU vs ANY SOWETO WARSHIP, let us prove our claims in a combat simulation, bring it on south africans if you dare !


Otomat missile is partly a Stealth missile you dont know ?

Otomat has been tested again and again and over too much tested and proved unstoppable in europe and america.


" In another example at least 8 missiles were bought by US Navy: thanks to a evasive, final maneuver, the majority of these weapons, called LRAT (Long Range Attack Target) Otomat missile penetrated inside the formidable missile defenses of US ships . To improve the missile chances of hitting, its nose and wing shapes were optimized for a reduced radar cross section (RCS). Range was improved to 250–300 km while keeping the same dimensions of the previous versions. The warhead was kept at 210 kg but fitted with an armored casing and less sensitive explosives which lowered its chances of being destroyed by close-in weapon systems. Three Otomat missiles were test launched in 1994–1995 with good results."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otomat

mighty american navy is the most powerful in the world....they could NOT jam the Otomat missile because it had its own counter-measures/anti-jamming devices....ALL american navy electronics and technology and defense missiles could NOT stop a single Otomat.

south african navy has NO defence against Otomat missile, all your Exocet missiles are inferior in range and stealth capacity.

please leave this topic...lets talk something new...

Aradu means Thunder in Igbo land, and a full Thunder strike means instant death

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sad to know south africa dumped winnie mandela and no one even remembers her. she lost her marriage because of the fight for south african blacks freedom. now a forgotten and unwanted sad old woman. used by all and dumped by all, this world is wicked.

http://www.punchng.com/news/how-winnie-missed-mandelas-last-hour/

https://www.nndb.com/people/292/000023223/wm-51854-60.jpg

sorry for digressing off topic a moment. i just feel for this forgotten woman/heroine

DictatorZAR: Mind you this will be the biggest ever funeral of a former head of state in history over 70 current heads of states will attend the memorial tomorrow and others on sunday for the funeral.

so what ? a dead man does not know how many people attends his burial

Fighter Pilot: You are lying to your teeth. 4000MW is too small for population of over 40 million people. So tell me do you think that SA is playing cards with their 45000MW power production rather than providing it to the people. That power which they provide to the population of 50 million is still experiencing power shadding whereby South Africans are being alerted to switch off their geisers, heaters and other appliances whenever they are not in use. Tell me now how will 4000MW which is even smaller than what Joburg provides alone can ever manage to cope with 40 million end users?

15 million south africans have ZERO electricity and have never seen a light bulb since the day they were born

http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/2-5-million-households-without-electricity-1.436335

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DictatorZAR: Mind you this will be the biggest ever funeral of a former head of state in history over 70 current heads of states will attend the memorial tomorrow and others on sunday for the funeral.

I will to be part of world history tomorrow.

will you ride that your donkey there ? you talk like you live in the donkey riding village of south africa posted here some days ago

Fighter Pilot: Bahahahahahaha!! First it was China, which sold them dysfunctional satellite and now is Israel which is dubbing them of cash. 419 does not only have its headquaters in Lagos. This is really unbelievable!!!!

you are always outdated in information, lost soul

china sold nigeria a satellite, it broke down many years ago and was immediately replaced with a brand new one for free.

you are lost in time and information, do you live in that south african village where they cook with firewood ?

"On March 24, 2009, the Nigerian Federal Ministry of Science and Technology, NigComSat Ltd. and CGWIC signed a further contract for the in-orbit delivery of the NigComSat-1R satellite. NigComSat-1R is also a DFH-4 satellite with improvements over the previous satellite, and was delivered in the fourth quarter of 2011 as a replacement for the failed NigComSat-1. It was successfully launched on December 19, 2011"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NigComSat-1

http://www.thenationonlineng.net/archive2/tblnews_Detail.php?id=72058

south africa has NO satellite today, nigeria is your master in that area, and the thing dey pain you for body

DictatorZAR: Now fool this can only happen to Naai-ja.

Most of those so called drones dont even work and is not even functional as we speak. You were scammed you cant even use those drones.

Now read this before you spew shi..t
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/11/isreali-contractors-sold-nigeria-240m-non-functional-drones/

Please try and debunk this one with more lies.

you are too blind to see that the story in your source is dated November 05, 2012.

‘Isreali contractors sold Nigeria $240m non-functional drones’

on November 05, 2012 / in News 9:50 am /

the israeli drones only had an electrical fault like any machine could have and they have been repaired and working as at now....dummy

"An Israeli-manufactured AeroStar UAV prepares for lift-off at the Air Force Institute of Technology, Kaduna.

They might be helping us but what I am SURE about is that I was watching on NTA News when the Air Chief commissioned the Centre for Innovative and Adaptive Technology at the Air Force Institute of Technology and as some point, an NCO came out pushing this UAV as into a takeoff run and it rolled on and took off. It was specifically described as an AEROSTAR UAV and that is Israeli-made. That is why those Israeli gentlemen are in the photo.

NTA NEWS this evening showed the NAF conducting demonstration flights of the Aerostar UAV at Kaduna today. "

beegeagel wordpress. July 05, 2013.

http://beegeagle./2013/07/03/an-israeli-made-aerostar-drone-of-the-nigerian-air-force-photo-credit-federal-ministry-of-information/


An Israeli-manufactured AeroStar UAV prepares for lift-off at the Air Force Institute of Technology, Kaduna.
https://i.imgur.com/3lRXYe5.jpg


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Fighter Pilot: Firstly can you prove to me that you have 12 operational UAV's.

nigeria has 9 israeli drones and 3 NAF made drones Amebo I, II, and III

Transfers of major conventional weapons. Deals with deliveries or orders made for year range 2000 to 2012.

Note: The 'No. delivered' and the 'Year(s) of deliveries' columns refer to all deliveries since the beginning of the contract. For more information, see Sources and Methods.

Source: SIPRI Arms Transfers Database
Information generated: 9 December 2013
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Recipient
Supplier
No. ordered
No. ordered data uncertain
Weapon designation
Weapon description
Status
Status data uncertain
Year of order
Year of order data uncertain
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No. delivered 9 units
Year(s) of delivery or no. delivered data uncertain
Recipient involvement
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Nigeria
Israel

9
Yes
Aerostar
UAV
New

2006

2007 - 2007
9 units
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Part of $260 m deal of Aerostar UAV systems


http://portal.sipri.org/publications/pages/transfer/trade-register

Fighter Pilot: Denel is helping great nations to develop drones.

http://www.bdlive.co.za/national/2013/04/12/denel-helping-saudi-arabia-develop-drones

Brazil is in nigeria to partner in our NAF drones development.

http://beegeagle./2012/07/24/nigerian-air-force-begin-work-on-bomb-defusing-robot-receive-enquiries-on-made-in-nigeria-amebo-1-uav-brazilian-military-institute-to-partner-naf/

Mike..ZA:
1. NNS Thunder and NNS Arandu will sail back to Nigeria with your grandmother's super natural powers? 2. NNS Thunder and NNS Arandu will take on Four stealth frigates(armed with torpedoes,Anti-ship missiles and AAM that can to used in the SAM role) plus a diesel submarine? 3. Your warships will fire anti-ship missiles,torpedoes,Surface to air missiles(against incoming missiles and attacks planes) simultaneously? 4. Your warships while trying desperately to lock in their radars on the SAN stealth frigates with SAAF EW planes making it more difficult,will be wide opened by torpedoes.

make all the noise you want like a police man chasing armed robbers.

listen to military tactics, south africa has NO weapon that can challenge NNS Aradu, its Otomat anti-ship missile range is double of south african Exocet missiles. Aradu's Aspide anti-aircraft missile is 75km range and will shoot down the whole south african air force Gripen and Hawk jets even before they come close. Nigeria has BVR missiles on Aradu, south africa has no BVR or stand-off missile, FACT !!!

only south african submarines can threaten Aradu, but she has a brand new and modern American submarine detector sonar plus anti-submarine torpedoes, and when our Lynx anti-submarine helicopters come back from upgrade in march 2014 plus our brand new stealth warships, all south african submarines will be in danger, a 50-50 battle, only God knows who will win in open international sea, but close in nigerian waters EEZ, south african navy will be sunk down to meet mammy water at sea bottom.

your dead soweto navy sailors' spirits can marry fine mammy water if they wish, she is africa's most beautiful mermaid

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https://cdn.360nobs.pagenanny.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/mermaid-1.jpg

Mike..ZA:
Nigeria is LOSING AS WE SPEAK. Two helicopter OUT!!!!!! Your satellites can't locate this armoured personnel carriers?. 500 insurgents able to move with massive vehicles with a curfew imposed. NEGOTIATE!!!!!!!!!! "Maiduguri (Nigeria):

no dude, the side that runs away and cannot hold territory is the loser. boko haram could not capture even one house and defend it in nigeria.

our army show up and fights, boko runs back across border to cameroon, chad or niger. that is the loser.

of course in any war both sides die, even america's mighty army has lost thousands of soldiers in afghanistan killed by islamic terrorists.

nobody has monopoly of killing in war, you kill and get killed in return.

for every 1 nigerian soldier killed, we kill 10 boko harams on average.

in nigeria we dont manufacture false kill ratio like south african army 15 dead, seleka rebels 1,000 dead

satellites, yes nigerian satellite would have seen the boko haram movement but response time will be late because they wont know who was moving whether it was nigerian army in operation/patrol or redeployment, so the satellite monitors wont raise any alarm signal because you cannot identify whose forces were moving.

that is the difference between insurgency war where both warring sides live and move inside the same territory and their is no dividing frontline.

it is a more complex war than a nation vs nation war where each country has its own separate border lines, if satellite sees images of massive human movement from chadian border heading to nigeria, they will raise alarm.

that is how we say boko harams anti-aircraft guns crossing a neighbouring border into nigeria on our satellite imaging systems and we struck them with Mi-24 gunships, they hit the gunship but it survived the anti-aircraft fire.

boko haram can raise 300 men inside maiduguri city without moving across border from cameroon because they live as civilians in the day selling yams and suya beef, then at night they change form into gun carrying terrorists.

if he hides AK-47 in bags of beans who will know ?

seleka rebels can be seen by satellite when they move in large numbers because they have known public bases.

boko haram has NO public visible base. they are an 'invisble' enemy until they close in on you.

even america and russia will sweat if they face boko haram style war, pakistan could not defeat terrorists and it is a nuclear power nation ranked about 10 in the world.

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Fighter Pilot: To be more exact the war started at 2am to 8am. It took about six hours, where insurgents burned down two Mi-24 hinds and three Alpha jets which were untruly rumoured to have been decommissioned in order to deny insurgents psychological victory.

nigeria has 33 decommissioned MiG 21 jets parked outside, unwanted and useless all over nigeria in several air force bases, some in maiduguri their old combat base where they were used against Chad's army that invaded nigeria a few times in the 1980s.

see photo of nigerian decomissioned MiG 21 jets how we dumped them.

https://i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af298/ONLY1GAR3TH/tn_mig21-mf-fighter_1.jpg


click the link below and scroll down page to see more.

http://www.planes.cz/en/search/company/1578/nigerian-air-force-ngr/?pho_company=1578

Jaguar jets are in storage in middle of nigeria, makurdi air base, no one can get into the storage, thats even if you know where it is.

Alpha jets are based in middle of nigeria especially Yola air base to be ready to chase boko haram into Cameroon if need be.

Alpha jets flew from yola to maiduguri about 300km away, boko boys saw Alpha jet, they knew the game was over...they ran ran ran and ran

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Fighter Pilot: To be more exact the war started at 2am to 8am. It took about six hours, where insurgents burned down two Mi-24 hinds and three Alpha jets which were untruly rumoured to have been decommissioned in order to deny insurgents psychological victory.

nigeria has 33 decommissioned MiG 21 jets parked outside, some in maiduguri their traditional base where they were used against Chad's army that invaded nigeria a few times in the 1980s.

Jaguar jets are in storage in middle of nigeria, makurdi air base, no one can get into the storage, thats even if you know where it is.

Alpha jets are based in middle of nigeria especially Yola air base to be ready to chase boko haram into Cameroon if need be.

Alpha jets flew from yola to maiduguri about 300km away, boko boys saw Alpha jet, they knew the game was over...they ran ran ran and ran

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Mike..ZA:
it is a show of power by BH that it is still capable of hitting back with a greater force or well coordinated military attack. Desperation will be shown when the force is totally driven underground resorting to suicide bombers and propaganda.

THIS WAS A DARING ATTACK !!

....and the boko boys met with DARING DEATH, they wanted to go to heaven but nigerian army sent them to hell instead.

likely about a hundred boko fighters died from nigerian infantry and alpha jets that flew smartly from adamawa state to borno state a long distance away.

why did the remaining boko haram fighters run away when Alpha jets showed up ? i thought they were happy do die and see 'heaven' now

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Mike..ZA:
Now BH is blending into society? I thought you said they were driven into remote areas further north.

Here's question: WHERE WERE YOUR AIR FORCE'S F-7 AND ALPHA JETS DURING THIS ATTACK THAT LASTED FOR MORE THAN 3 HOURS?. You asked us the same question regarding the bangui battle.

terrorists are civilians trained to fight, they live among people and melt in and out of town as civilians, they go back ajd forth from their hidden secret base. thats how terrorists operate all over the world.

osama bin laden was living fine in a house on a public street in pakistan for 10 years, America and the whole world did not know. that is a terrorist for you.

same way south african air force and army could not stop ANC rebels of mandela from bombing your air force headquarters and your nuclear power reactor in your own homeland soil in pretoria city ande koeberg city. get it ?

yes nigerian Alpha jets from far away in a the middle region of nigeria flew a long distance to the north of nigeria, and their arrival made boko haram to start running like cows that see a mad butcher with double edged swords.

south african Gripen jets were sitting idle a long distance away while seleka rebels roated your army like suya, soweto's pilots were sleeping in zambia or uganda at that time when they knew they were on deployment for combat.

you see the difference now ?

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chris365: SANDF soldier killed in Kruger Park

A soldier has been killed during an operation in the Kruger National Park, the SA National Defence Force said on Monday.

Private Thabiso Zulu, of Regiment East Rand, was deployed on Sunday with 2 SA Infantry Battalion.

http://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/2013/08/20/sandf-soldier-killed-in-kruger-park

the SA's that added their comments seem to agree with me that your military is useless

their soweto half baked military cannot face boko haram, them dey fear seleka like say na dracula vampire

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Fighter Pilot: Denel and SANDF are just two sides of a coin. We already have way far more than 12 UAV's in our defence. Trust me.

...but you are NOT trustworthy

chris365: SANDF has hundreds of troops that have joined the anti poaching campaign with nothing to show for it and have already lost a helicopter in the process.

Even the US drone will be bought by a private hand to support them. Why didn't they stroll into denel as your fvcked up mind believes?
It still won't change the facts already proven.. if your military doesn't pay, it doesn't get. Simple

hahahaha

you squeezed their balls so hard, they are leaking water and blood by now

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Fighter Pilot: South Africa is the biggest manufacturer of UAV's, they even sell them and if you want to add more to your just only 12 UAV's, you can put your order. Judge for yourself.

http://www.deneldynamics.co.za/

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[size=16pt]american UAV drones to be imported to save south africa from rhino poachers[/size]

failure of south african air force to stop ordinary rhino poachers as their SAAF helicopters begin to crash at home chasing poachers in the bush


bush meat wan begin dey catch the hunter
hunter run go america go beg for help


QUOTE :


"Around 400 rhinos have been killed this year in the world-famous Kruger national park, which spans 2m hectares – impossible for a limited number of rangers to guard effectively. this year 2013 is worst year on record for rhino poaching in south africa.

And in this day and age, that means one thing: a proposed 30 Arcturus T-20 drones purchase from America"


SOURCE : http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/a-south-african-rhino-farmer-is-buying-US-drones-to-fight-poachers


https://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/mt/flightglobalweb/blogs/as-the-croft-flies/Arcturus%20T20.JPG

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