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Mike..ZA:
America didn't defeat Iraq alone it was the "coalition". America almost any advantage over Iraq from main battle tanks,better fighter jets,stealth air planes,cruise missiles and troop numbers. Cuba pushed back an American "coup wannabe" operation.

90% of the battles against Iraq was fought by American forces. Google is easy to use if your memory fails you.

Mike..ZA:
Those countries withdraw their support after their supplies were getting bombed by UN helicopters. Which were called in by South African special forces.

the final battle of UN multi-national forces against M23 was a very short and brief mini combat of about 48 hours only, because M23 was ready to surrender to UN, you talk as if it was a long combat of many years of fighting and huge numbers of troops and massive weapons, and as if south africa was fighting M23 all alone....

under united nations, about 12 countries armies and air forces from Africa, Asia, and Europe jointly defeated M23 rebels, but now you come here to praise south africa alone....you are a glory stealer and a honour robber....ole, barawo banza, thiefu thiefu jankoriko, ah jankoriko !!



PHOTO OF TANZANIAN ARMY FINAL TRAINING WITH CHINA BEFORE ASSUMING COMMAND OVER SOUTH AFRICAN ARMY IN CONGO DRC

Mike..ZA:
We are discussing military stuff here. If you wanna talk about dogs go join some vet forum. I can see you're ignoring the combat radius of your jet again,The F7 is for poor countries Nigeria should get a real fighter plane.

nigeria is not a poor country, we are the richest country in africa with the biggest economy now. nigeria is richer than ethiopia that flies SU-27 jets.

nigeria is careful not to buy a jet that will be trouble to maintain and keep flying like south africa grounded most of its Gripen jets in cold storage and has only 6 pilots with only 25 missiles. Lol

nigeria is carefully picking a new 4.5 generation jet fighter, but for now we are safe because there is no threat our F-7 jets cannot stop, or we use air defence from Roland SAM instead.

nigeria is considering SU-30 Flanker jets or JF-17 Thunder jet block II and block III, all superior to south african Gripen jets.

nigeria is likely to choose JF-17 Thunder and become a partner in joint venture with pakistan in producing africa's first jet fighter.

nigeria is slow but steady and intelligent, south africa is rush-rush and foolish in decision making.


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Mike..ZA:
The F7 can accomplish 850km combat radius or accomplishes that 850km with 3 drop tanks+2 air to air missiles,if engaged your pilots will drop their tanks causing them to crash on their way to their base depending on the time of the dogfight. The Gripen will soon be armed with 5th generation missile+a BVR missile. The A-darter is better,deadly&advanced than any missile on the African continent most pilot will think twice about engage any fighter armed with it.

south africa is NOT buying any BVR missile dude, A-Darta is just about the same range as Nigerian PL-9C missile. shut your mouth, liar !

i begin to feel for you though, it seems nigerians really scattered your brain today till you begin to bite your self and tear your own skin with your teeth like a bulldog.

okay sorry we turned your head i.nsane, but we did not make you grow the dada hair now, you always had traces of madness, it just got critical today o !

na_chris_be_dis: this is why I call you a sensless noise maker. now you just contradicted yourself and rubbished your own argument from the day you started.

is their no superior way to display the south African brain?

he lied so much when he joined this forum, now he has begun to ruin everything he has posted before and embarrass the already disgraced south african brain that was recently proved to be the second dullest in the whole world by World Economic Forum 2013 Research report.

Mike..ZA:
Tiny Cuba pushed back many USA "wannabe coup" operations.

Cuban exiles of a few hundreds came back home from USA to plan coup on castro, NOT a war.

Cuba NEVER fought any war with USA, so how will they defeat America that defeated mighty Iraq that had a one million man army ?

i have squeezed @Andrewza`s balls on this story untill they were leaking water, dont let me squeeze yours too, so better shut up.

Mike..ZA:
Inexperienced army + air force? How many missions were flown during the bush war?. Ok Let's compare aerial combat kills between Nigeria and South Africa from jet and helicopters. Ethiopia that can't defeat tiny Eritrea? Their pilots fired AAM at their maximum range making the missiles ineffective.

south african bush war pilots flew Impala and Mirage jets, NOT Gripen and Hawk jets.

even your current Gripen pilots are not qualified except 6 men. so how can old retired Impala and Mirage jet pilots qualify to fly your Gripen to bring in some Bush War 27 years ago experience with ancient outdated aircraft they flew ?

the old grey haired bush war veteran pilots will crash your Gripen jets on the ground during take off, they wont even get airborne

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Mike..ZA:
Now you wanna argue on that word "state" ? conventional battles can be fought organisations+rebels or groups.

okay, nigerians have forced another south african to contradict himself, eat his own words, and raise his hands up in final surrender

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Mike..ZA:
What's the combat radius of the F7 jet? How many AAM it carries?. Don't be ignorant and arrogant here you poes. Nigeria should get a REAL fighter jet,the F7 jet is for power countries like Zimbabwe,Namibia and Tanzania not for a regional power. Yes,you can operate it but you must have other fighters like Egypt,Sudan,Pakistan and your masters China are doing. As 2014 approaches SAAF must be happy that its AAM stocks will be replenished by the advanced 5th generation A-Darter missile.

combat radius of F-7 jet and Gripen jet are bothy about the same 850km. both carry missiles with about same range 25km.

both jets and pilots will likely die together same day they meet in combat.

CraigB: Ah, when a modern Naai-gerian army compares itself to an army of years ago. That goes to show how underdeveloped the Naai-gerians are. Still catching up. Nothing's been learnt from history. Still repeating old mistakes, is Naai-geria.

I weep.

history says south african military was beaten at home by illiterate ANC terrorists, and thats all we need to know, the date or year does not matter, your military was disgraced at home at the peak of south african military might when you were stronger than today with nuclear weapons.

lucky ANC did not detonate one of your nuclear bombs that very day they beat up your flat footed army, you would never have been born.

CraigB: Ah! we now wrote three paragraphs?!

Not sure whether you want to cry or cum laude or whimper off in silence, is it?

Eitherway, you've now lost yourself in strategy and are chasing your own tail.

You left the facts or rather, the "F" behind. Three posts ago. There's no running away from that.

Six months has become 12 and there's no end in sight.

how quickly did south african military SADF defeat ANC hit and run terrorists on your country`s home soil when they attacked and bombed south african air force headquaters plus other places, how long did it take your useless military to stop them ?

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CraigB: "Overrun!" says the article.

No amount of propaganda will change this.

Naai-gerian military. Rubbish military.

Boko Haram overruns Nigerian Air Force base

[size=16pt]ANC terrorists over-ran South African Nuclear Power Station....

while South African Army was on guard duty but beaten flat

http://www.mg.co.za/article/1995-12-15-how-we-blew-up-koeberg-and-escaped-on-a-bicycle[/size]



South Africa was bombed on home soil and ANC terrorists over-ran your Koelberg Nuclear Power Station, and they escaped on a bicycle, while the whole south african military was running around like rabbits on home soil defeated by ANC terrorists riding ordinary bicycles.

so pull another one now

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Islamic Terrorists Bomb Russia On Home soil, Kill Dozens In the City...

Russian Military Shocked[/size]
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http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/12/30/russian-terror-attacks-could-be-chilling-prelude-to-olympic-violence/


https://www.newschannel9.com/news/top-stories/stories//images/russia_8446.jpg

CraigB: And not even a single attempt at denying the truth. Smoke and mirrors.

After the dust has settled, the truth remains.

Naai-geria and conventional warfare. Oil and water. North and South. Heaven and hell.

i thought @Mike.ZA was the only mad man online today, i didn't know there are two....and the one above is totally a Kolomental case

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Mike..ZA:
Oh you know I'm smoking a fine cigar not some fake Nigerian cigarette. Now if I may ask are there any lies in my post? Is Nigeria producing better 155mm shells,MRAPS,Drones,howitzers,IFVs and mortars than South Africa?. YES or NO please.

Ethiopia does not produce such weapons, yet they will defeat South Africa in war until you kneel down and beg Ethiopia for mercy, or you crawl to AU and ask Africa to help you beg Ethiopia to stop deleting your inexperienced army and air force.

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Mike..ZA:
M23 had AA guns. what was used to fire at the UN helicopters?..They even had the praga. M23 had more than ten tanks 4 of them were destroyed by Tanzanian artillery(D30) strikes. Is a fact that Nigeria has never battled an enemy well armed like M23.

Now here's definition of conventional warfare:

"Conventional warfare is a form of warfare
conducted by using conventional military
weapons and battlefield tactics between two or
more states in open confrontation. The forces
on each side are well-defined, and fight using
weapons that primarily target the opposing
army."

since your own definition above says conventional warfare is between two states/nations, then is M23 Rebel force a nation ?

Biafra is a nation with a head of state, national currency, international recognition by France, South Africa, Israel, and many others, a separate economy, banking sector, university, law/legal system and judiciary, etc.

now you have finally shot yourself in the foot on the issue of nigeria not having ever fought a conventional war, because Biafran war qualifies, but M23 war does NOT qualify as conventional.

see. mad man, Biafra will wipe out M23 rebels in 6 hours, i mean six hours of battle from 8 AM to 2 PM, you hear me ? fool !

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Mike..ZA:
Maybe you're misunderstanding the term "conventional warfare",

SANDF+TDF fought a conventional warfare style battles with the M23. ....Which possessed tanks,artillery,mortars,vehicles,AA guns,MRLS and

other chinese rockets. Your army has never seen no action. SPINELESS army that has never fired counter battery artillery strikes.

show us a list form a reliable source that counted all the M23 Rebel weapons and armoury you just listed above. show us proof and the numbers of those weapons, plus their operational capability and combat readiness of the 'miraculous' equipment you just claimed for M23 Rebels.

Boko Haram is better equipped than M23 Rebels, and better fighters. Boko Haram fired anti-aircraft guns on nigerian Alpha Jets and Mi-35 Hind helicopters, M23 Rebels were dunce dumbo's that never fired a single shot against all UN Mi-35 helicopters gunships of India and Ukraines air forces that have been attacking M23 for over a year now....M23 is poorly armed.

By the way, UN especially Ukraine and Indian air forces helicopter gunships the Mi-35 Hinds plus Tanzanian Army D-30 Artillery already cut off the head and life of M23 before South African helicopters, artillery, or soldiers ever came to Congo DRC combat zone to fire one single shot, your military was called in to join the fight against a half dead M23 rebel group.

did i hear you say south africa fought conventional warfare against M23 rebels ? you are mad and all your village is mad !

you that posted here few months a go that Nigeria has never fought any conventional war because Biafra is just a rebel force.

Biafra has over 100,000 soldiers, M23 has about 5,000 soldiers.

Biafra had an air force with warplanes from Super Tucano type of COIN attack aircraft to huge B-26 Invader Bombers, and European ex-airforce pilots from Sweden and other European countries fly Biafran air force war planes bombing nigeria regularly.

M23 rebels have no single aircraft.

now you say Biafra war is not conventional war while M23 Rebels war in Congo is conventional war.

nigeria fought the biggest conventional war ever in african history.

now i know you are a complete mad man that cannot be cured, the dada hair on your head will grow back in one week even if the psychiatrist should cut it, because you are really mad, i mean mad !!!



Photos of Biafran Air Force B-26 Invader Long Range Bombers

lekkie073: At least 56 members of the terrorist organisation, Boko Haram, have been killed in Nigeria’s northeast after soldiers launched an air and ground attack on the terrorists’ hideout on Saturday, the military said. The acting spokesman of the 7 Division of the Nigeria Army, Aliyu Danja, said in a statement that the military operations took place on December 28; and also involved the destruction of the terrorist’s weapons, equipment and vehicles.

http://www.google.com/gwt/x?u=http://premiumtimesng.com/

NaijaPikinGidi: Pikin wey say im Papa no go sleep, na koboko e go dey collect until e begin respect im papa!

the nigerian offensive is the first retaliation attack on boko haram for the terrorists attack on NAF air base in maiduguri.

as i said a few weeks ago, that a new major nigerian military retaliatory attack is being planned and will be launched at CODED 'Zone X' where the trees drop sap, real name is ALAFA FOREST OF BORNO STATE.


Boko Haram casualties = 63
Nigerian Army casualties = 0

http://www.punchng.com/news/security-forces-kill-63-insurgents-in-borno/


another major one is coming january...i wont say more, its CODED .

up NA, up NAF, up NN, up SSS, up NPF. we all love you for doing so much for fatherland Nigeria.

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Mike..ZA:
Yes,they hard landed a single Rooivalk.

But your Nigerian lagos,marijuana,crack smoking pilots crashed three interceptor jets F-7.

south african air force air crash history is far worse than that of nigeria, you have crashed every jet fighter your air force ever purchases.

reason why your Gripen and Hawk jets have not crashed is because you hardly fly them, most are frozen in storage or grounded.

over 120 south african air force jet fighters crashed in 50 years including foolish mid-air jet to jet head on collisions in broad day light.

are south african pilots blind like bats ? is it only at night your air force pilots can see ?

[size=16pt]http://www.ejection-history.org.uk/Country-By-Country/South_Africa.htm[/size]

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Mike..ZA:
A jet that was used to shoot down a MIG-21,Nigeria still flies a copy of this jet. It even shoot down MI-24 helicopters which Nigeria flies. South Africa didn't enjoy air superiority cause of the appearance of the MIG-23,but fought well wiping out entire battalions and brigades. SA artillery crews showing how well trained they were camouflaged their G5 and G6 guns,using the "shoot and scoot" tactic avoided air strikes destroying their equipment. NO missile was ever shoot against a Nigerian jet.

your long story is full of lies. anyway, south africa was defeated in that war by tiny cuba, read .....

[size=16pt]The Final Defeat of South Africa in Angola : Special Details And Rare Photos[/size]


http://www.sa-soldier.com/data/06_sadflinks/UsedPDFs/From_a_Cuban_perspective.pdf


young boys of the Cuban army pose with captured South African Army Olifant Tank

[img]http://www.urrib2000.narod.ru/Olifant3.jpg[/img]


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Mike..ZA:
Do you know how many anti-aircraft missiles or SAMs SAAF has flown against?.

yes , and your south african air force Mirage F-1 jet fighters got shot down by ordinary hand-held one man SAM-7 Cuban anti-aircraft missiles, then your air force began to hide their jets on the ground and avoided flying combat mission regularly.

http://www.sa-transport.co.za/aircraft/mirage_f1_saaf_service.html

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Mike..ZA:
Do you know how many anti-aircraft missiles or SAMs SAAF has flown against?. A force of 3000 or 4000 SANDF mechanised,motorised,artillery,parabats plus other units can reach Nairobi from any of their boarders within 7 days....................Let's compare the Rooivalk to your soviet era rust buckets the Mi-24/35 helicopters. The best of their(mi-24/35) series is operated by Algeria the super hind,it is a South African upgrade. By a company which was created by Rooivalk designers.

those old SAAF pilots of 27 years ago have retired or quit flying, they are NOT the ones flying Rooivalk for you now.

current south african air force Rooivalk helicopter pilots are a bunch of newbreed inexperienced soweto fools that flew one of your Rooivalk helicopter gunship crashing into city electricity in broad daylight blind as a bat, during combat training.

the enemy has not even fired SAM missile on him yet and he is crashing the Rooivalk, how will he see incoming missile if he cannot see bigger electricity poles and wires ?

too much alcohol your pilots drink.

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Mike..ZA:
Shiny toys? This are Gripens during operation Uxolo. Below are the aviation crews in the DRC. South Africans sees and has seen or been in combat than Nigeria. FARDC was able to retake a village in the DRC after the Rooivalk was called upon to "check out" rebels. NIGERIA SEES NO ACTION AND HAS NEVER SEEN ANY CONVENTIONAL WARFARE ACTION.

All the current south african air force jets fighters and pilots of today have ZERO combat experience.

nigerian air force Alpha jets have been flying regular combat missions in ground attack for the past 12 years with the same current experienced pilots

nigerian air force Mi-35 Hind helicopter gunships have fought against boko haram anti-aircraft guns and got damaged , but still destroyed the enemy

nigerian F-7 jets have launched air to ground attacks on boko haram and Mali rebels in the last 4 years.

South african jet pilots of today have ZERO war experience. FACT.

south african army of today have ZERO combat experience apart from a few hours trial and failure when Seleka rebels beat you up like kids and another few days of hiding behind Tanzanian army in Congo DRC like second choice football players on reserve bench in English Premiership.

south african navy of today has ZERO combat experience in large scale world class amphibious landing operations and coastal artillery fire support

Nigerian military of today is 100 times more battle experienced than South African military of today . FACT of FACTS !!!

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DictatorZAR: The fake expert is foaming from his broomstick again Lagos will fall in a war against cameroon and thats a fact.

We all know France will back Cameroon and if Nigeria is the aggressor, international sanctions will be placed on your shi..thole and the long foreseen brake up will become a wonderful reality

you think international politics, diplomacy and war is that simple ?

Cameroon has a defence pact with France.

Nigeria has a defence pact with Ukraine, and Ukraine has a defence pact with Russia.

Nigeria has a defence pact with Pakistan and Pakistan has a defence pact with China.

France would risk a world war by attacking Nigeria just for the sake of Cameroon.

world war II started by Germany attacking small weak European countries that had defence pacts with Super powers.

France will risk attacking Nigeria and face Ukrainian air force SU-27 Flanker jets and pilots plus Pakistani JF-17 Thunder jets and pilots.

Just a few weeks ago, Ukraine refused to join the European Union and re-affirmed its pacts with Russia.

France will think smart, not the way you do.

[img]http://i.piccy.info/i7/01d5fd9c69ff8395b87a9cea5e0958ab/1-5-311/3264472/Su-27UB_1200.jpg[/img]

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drag_on: Are you a dutch colony?

Damen is a dutch company that happens to have a shipyard in SA.Most of its companies are in holland.
The Netherlands
Amels
Bodewes Millingen
Damen Anchor and Chain Factory
Damen Dredging Equipment

Shipdock Amsterdam
Shipdock Harlingen
Van Brink Rotterdam
And a few others in other countries, including S.A.
http://www.damen.com/en/companies

just cause it has a shipyard in S.A does not mean S.A. builds Frigates and OPV's. It does however mean Holland builds frigates.Do you really think the dutch will build frigates in S.A. Except you are a dutch colony.

you k.illed him

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Fighter Pilot: China is building stealth warship in Nigeria with only Nigerians used as manual labourers. Nigeria is just only used as a shipyard to minimise the costs of transporting the ship from China to Naai-jeria. Unlike, in SA where we build what we acquire on our own and modify it where possible.

Under project Biro we will become the biggest.

China has and is transferring 100% technology of stealth warship building to nigeria

http://www.janes.com/article/28865/details-of-nigerian-naval-shipbuilding-plans-revealed

south african navy project biro is still a dream, go find money to pay the $1 billion debt you sank into by buying your navy submarines on credit, go pay that 7 year old heavy debt before you come back and talk project biro.

the loan interest is mounting daily dude, dont wait till the bank managers comes to put your submarines in the open auction sale market to recover their loan debt

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Fighter Pilot: Everything that you manufacture end within the borders of your country. Unlike us who send it to other countries as well.

nigeria is about to start exporting warships all over africa

http://www.african-defense.com/?p=4221

soon we will start exporting drones i believe, just wait for more shocks. naija is a fast rising power.

Fighter Pilot: Read:

http://www.damen.com/en/markets/defence-and-security

we are not fools here, i did not say post a weblink that tells a meaningless long story, i asked a simple question, i said tell us the name of the stealth warship built in south africa, answer straight to the point with specific data, not sending me to go read a library, thats how you people fail exams and score 33%

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Fighter Pilot: Bwahahahaha!! Still it exist in SA.

Here is a black owned shipyard in SA and the biggest more than Damen.

http://www.sa-shipyards.co.za/

while your country went to sleep with over-confidence, nigeria has overtaken you in ship building

http://www.nigerdock.com/aboutus

http://www.piriou.com/en/the-sites/was/38.htm

http://www.african-defense.com/?p=4221

http://www.janes.com/article/28865/details-of-nigerian-naval-shipbuilding-plans-revealed

Fighter Pilot: Damen (SA based shipyard is the first in Africa to manufacture stealth warships)

Damen's frigates and covettes

http://www.damen.com/en/markets/defence-and-security

oh, you claim to build stealth warships in south africa ? those ships must be so bad quality your navy had to go buy and import fully build valour stealth warships from Germany

okay, show us source with proof. the very name of that stealth warship, i mean warship not boat, built in south africa

the stealth warships being built in nigeria is called P18N, tell us your stealth warships name and the date it was built, and the navy that is sailing it in their fleet

you got bitten by an insect called a lying bug, i hear they fly in swarms all over south africa, reason why you people tell lies per second-per second

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Mike..ZA:
South Africa has a bigger and better weapons industry than Nigeria, but you blokes were reluctant to admit that this would influence the outcome of a war between both countries if it ever became a possibility.

it will make no difference because nigeria manufactures everything it needs to sustain its army in basic combat for as long as needed....

assault rifles
general purpose machine guns
grenades
light and heavy mortar artillery
bullet proof vests
night vision goggles
howitzer artillery shells
air to ground rockets
free fall bombs
bomb disposal robots
armoured infantry fighting vehicles
armoured personnel carriers
MRAPS
drones/UAV
10m to 38m naval gunboats
stealth warships

now all the above will sustain nigeria in war for as long as needed. FACT !!!

south africa depends 95% on imported European made weapon platforms to launch her DENEL made weapons, especially missiles... Gripen jets, Hawk jets, half-French Rooivalk helicopter gunship, Valour frigates, Type 209 Submarines, half-British Oliphant tanks, half-Finland made Badger armoured IFV vehicles, and many more.


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Mike..ZA:
Are you bringing weapons industry into this. South Africa has a bigger and better weapons industry than Nigeria

you blokes were reluctant to admit that this would influence the outcome of a war between both countries if it ever became a possibility.

yes and no.

south africa has a bigger land and air weapons manufacturing industry than nigeria, but nigeria has a bigger and more modern sea weapons manufacturing industry.

nigeria has the biggest naval dockyard in africa, and we are the first and the only country in africa from cape town to cairo to build a sophisticated stealth warship

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