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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:11am On Dec 06, 2013
CraigB: And insults beget insults. Only, South Africans hit much harder. You know what to do.
when nigerians pity you people, they squeeze your balls, when they dont pity you...they take you to the slaughter house grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:56am On Dec 06, 2013
CraigB: The witnesses were there .
they said they were there, claimed they were there, were you there with them to prove that they were truly there at 3am in dark night ?

okay i was there too and no boko haram stolen APC was on the battlefield. finish grin

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:47am On Dec 06, 2013

Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:45am On Dec 06, 2013
CraigB: Spare us. It's irrelevant who the story is from. The story clearly says there were witnesses. Good to see you've given up your ridiculous demand for photos and that it now sits in-between half-hearted arguments.
since you are a 'lawyer with masters degree in law' show us evidence, a photo to prove boko haram drives a stolen nigerian army APC

true lawyers dont just go to court with copied stories told by others, they show proof/evidence/exhibit....show us photo grin

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:32am On Dec 06, 2013
CraigB: Captured and used against your military a few days ago. Undeniable.

Your Seleka pictures are proof that you've been hurt.

That's how you behave when the facts start burning you in the backside.

http://nigeriavillagesquare.com/news/bold-boko-haram-attack-deals-sharp-blow-to-nigerian-air-force.html

"MAIDUGURI, Nigeria - Hundreds of Islamic militants in trucks and a stolen armoured personnel carrier attacked an air force base and international airport on the outskirts of a Nigerian city before dawn Monday, officials and witnesses said, possibly leaving scores of people dead in one of the insurgent group's most daring attacks.

Two helicopters and three decommissioned military aircraft were "incapacitated" in the attack, said a statement from Brig. Gen. Chris Olukolade, the Ministry of Defence spokesman. He said some army bases also were hit."
the 'stolen APC' story is NOT from nigerian military Brig, Gen Chris Olukolade, it was from newspaper journalists who were surely not there at 3am in the darkness to count and name types of boko nharam vehicles when the fighting took place and every civilian was hiding under his bed with his wife and kids.

if he was there among boko haram vehicles looking for information, that journalist would be dead by now grin

let the journalist, or you, or even boko haram show us photo of a nigerian army Cobra APC driven by boko haram.

you think driving around a modern Cobra APC, maintaining the european modern vehicle for battle is just like driving a toyota 4runner...fool grin

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:00am On Dec 06, 2013
DictatorZAR: So reports from your own country's commanders are no longer deemed as proof. You want pics instead of verified proven reports on what happened on your own soil where there's no respect for the so called gaints(nothing shocked).

You are pathetic.
there is no nigerian military APC captured by boko haram, only a police APC was burnt some months ago.

show us photo of boko haram driving around a nigerian army Cobra APC, same way i posted photo of seleka driving around south african army gecko vehicle, the rebel guy can even drive this vehicle to mandela's funeral and show you all in pretoria tongue

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:47am On Dec 06, 2013
CraigB: Lucky Dube was never really as big an icon in South Africa as he was in the rest of Africa. South Africa had lots to choose from. Lucky was one of many.

And he was killed by a Mozambican.

You are ancient and out of touch.
lucky dube was killed on the paradise country south african homeland, by whoever, does not matter.

oh ! mozambican ? means ghanaians @awodwa & @kwame will both shoot you @craigB someday in hillbrow, get it ?

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
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[size=16pt]the greatest African revealed by BBC world opinion polls...Nkrumah[/size]
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"In fact, the greatest African of the millennium, according to the year 2000 BBC World Service listeners’ poll, is not Nelson Mandela or even Patrice Lumumba, but Kwame Nkrumah, the man who inspired the movement for African independence, but who has dropped out of Western discourse, for very good reasons. - See more at: http://www.stateofnature.org/?p=6280#sthash.YUehu3nf.dpuf"

http://www.stateofnature.org/?p=6280

proves mandela is greatest south african, but kwame nkrumah is voted by the world as greatest african in year 2000 BBC world opinion poll

https://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine/archive/covers/1953/1101530209_400.jpg

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:33am On Dec 06, 2013
AwodwaGyanOniwe: grin grin grin grin grin
SOUTH AFRICA HAS BEEN PRODUCING WORLD ICON. ITS STARTED WITH SHAKA ZULU, LUTHULI, STEVE BIKO, MANDELA AND OTHERS.

WE PRODUCE "WORLD ICONS"
this ya 'icons' list get problem o !

south african cocaine addiction and HIV (post mortem report detection) killed branda fassie

south african violent gangs AK-47 killed lucky dube

.....na so una dey treat una 'icons' shocked

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
AwodwaGyanOniwe: grin grin grin grin grin
SOUTH AFRICA HAS BEEN PRODUCING WORLD ICON. ITS STARTED WITH SHAKA ZULU, LUTHULI, STEVE BIKO, MANDELA AND OTHERS.

ITS IN OUR DNA. WE WERE "BORN TO STAND OUT ABOVE OTHERS". WE PRODUCE "WORLD ICONS"
you were born Ghanaian dude, kofi dudu na ya fada ! shocked

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:25am On Dec 06, 2013
CraigB: Yeah, yeah - victories that you aren't capable of having again while Boko Haram keeps you occupied (which will be the case for years). The "Present and Future" applies not to Naai-geria. Dead is this military. Dead to the world.
it is mandela that is dead, nigerian military is still walking around shooting the enemy from nigeria to far away sudan grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:24am On Dec 06, 2013
CraigB: Well, too bad.

Mandela's picture remains bigger and in the dead centre. For obvious reasons, I say.

No amount of jealousy will change that.
the 2004 magazine publisher will put mandela's in the centre to sell his magazine, good marketing, the most current face at the centre.

most of us were not born when haile selassie of ethiopia fought your white brothers and forced them out of ethiopia to keep it as the only black african country never colonized.

rantings does not change history...it is written grin

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:21am On Dec 06, 2013
Fighter Pilot: Viva Mandela viva!!!
viva ? live ? the man is dead dude !
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
CraigB: I insist that Naai-gerians are apes.

Bloody monkeys - the whole lot.

Deal with it.

And the thread was closed because South African insults are smart, fact-based and hard-hitting. Should teach you to try and insult us. We hit harder.
the very first person that called for that thread to be closed was actually a south african black man @zetdee, before nairaland administrator swooped in .

you fool, there are 40 million black people in your south africa, you are indirectly calling them apes/monkeys too ....fool grin

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:41pm On Dec 05, 2013
CraigB: In the face of Mandela's death, this is mundane. I will play with you another day. I'm off to be with my countrymen.
racist, you called all black people ape/monkeys on the other thread that was closed down by nairaland administrator...

.....mandela is a black man too, you dont like him, you prefer p.w. botha and f. de klerk.....dont try to fool us here !

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:38pm On Dec 05, 2013
Henry120: On behalf of myself and my family, we commiserate with the people of republic of south-africa( nairaland south africans) over the SAD loss of this great african warrior/ hero and leader.

RIP and rest in the bosom of our lord nelson mandela.


"A great light has gone out in the world". Sleep easy leader.


"Africa has lost her greatest son".
...one of africa's greatest sons. the greatest son of africa can be argued.

zik of africa, nkrumah, nyerere, samora machele, hannibal of carthage , and ethiopia's haile selassie the lion of africa....long list

https://www.sttlss.com/images/haileselassie.jpg
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:31pm On Dec 05, 2013
CraigB: Just like you repeat the same tired denials:

"Oh we are winning against Boko haram."

"Oh we have he best equipment."

"Oh this and that."

Rubbish.

And when they fail (i.e. When I succeed, as I always do - you attack me).

To use your logic. If I weren't hitting you where it hurts, you wouldn't attack me. kiss

The stories coming out of Naai-geria can't be denied and this remains my sole mission on this thread:


1. Naai-gerian intelligence - useless. An insider assisted Boko haram - as per your stories.

2. Naai-gerian tactics - useless. Your important air base. Attacked in your own home country, in the middle of your most important mission in years.

3. Naai-gerian Organisational abilities - useless. Equipment stolen by the enemy and used to attack your base.

4. Naai-gerian Organisational abilities - useless. Equipment left behind when you withdrew from your failed mission in mAli.

As long as this holds true, you won't be allows to forget it. I embrace my calling.
[size=16pt]south african military 'super' security forces defeated by one single man riding a bicycle

as a few ANC boys broke through south african military defences

and attacked the heavily guarded koeberg nuclear reactor in 1982

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News
How we blew up Koeberg (... and escaped on a bicycle)
15 DEC 1995 00:00 STAFF REPORTER


David Beresford tells the extraordinary story of how a young white South African couple, one a national sportsman, bombed the nuclear

The inside story of how the African National Congress made a mockery of atomic security to pull off one of the most dramatic coups of the apartheid struggle—- blowing up the Koeberg nuclear power station near Cape Town in 1982 -—has been told by the young couple who carried out the attack.

The man who planted the bombs was the former South African national sword-fighting champion, Rodney Wilkinson. He was backed by his girlfriend, Heather Gray, a speech therapist -—whom he married soon after the bombing.

Wilkinson penetrated the plant’s security to plant four limpet mines on the two reactor heads at the power station as well as at strategic points under the control rooms.

The attack on the French-built nuclear installation—- which, it was suspected at the time, would be used to produce plutonium for the construction of atomic bombs—- was planned by the ANC Special Operations department to avoid loss of life and risk of radioactive fall-out. The bombs were detonated just days before the plant went on stream and nobody was hurt in the explosion and ensuing fire.

Despite later denials by the South African authorities, the ANC established that the enriched uranium fuel had been moved to the plant, but had not loaded it into the reactors. It was in dormant storage. The attack delayed the commissioning of the plant by about 18 months and cost the apartheid government an estimated half a billion rand.

South African security suspected the operation was the work of a group of highly trained saboteurs. But in fact it had been carried out by a former corporal in the South African Defence Force who made his escape from South Africa on a bicycle.
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http://www.mg.co.za/article/1995-12-15-how-we-blew-up-koeberg-and-escaped-on-a-bicycle


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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:25pm On Dec 05, 2013
Z3tdee: Mandela has passed on. RIP

www.nairaland.com/1544485/nelson-mandela-dead/2
RIP mandela, i wish you did more for other african countries apart from south africa, or at least ask jacob zuma to do it while you were still alive.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:06pm On Dec 05, 2013
CraigB: Based on this ridiculous demand, you have lots of pictures to post.

Fail.

Tired of claiming that journalists assume hiluxes are APCs?
show us photo evidence....fake lawyer grin

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:52pm On Dec 05, 2013
CraigB: Ah shame - agaugust got banned while trying to shift attention to Seleka?

Well, Seleka won't change the facts about:

1. APCs being stolen from your Naai-gerian military;

2 The selfsame APCs being used against the military; and

3. Hardware being left behind in Mali.
show us the photos of the above APC's with proof that they belong to nigerian military NOT police grin

i am not banned, i dey kampe.

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:14pm On Dec 05, 2013
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south african army gecko vehicle before 'transfer' without waiting to sign change of ownership papers

[img]http://livemag.co.za/wp-content/themes/livemag/timthumb.php?src=http://livemag.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/sandf.jpg&w=480&h=360[/img]

south african army seleka rebels gecko vehicle after the 'trasnfer' by force shocked tongue cheesy grin

https://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000.RkkVNFhTUg/s/900/900/JOT00459CAR.jpg

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
DictatorZAR: Now you are truly fcvkd that Tucano is not a fourth gen warplane fact.

Are you telling me you gonna use a turbo prob aircraft to attack a nation 4000km away please boy this shi.t can only come from a Egotistical Delusional person village boy.

-that plane is comparable to Paramounts Archlyc reconnaissance light attack plane built in SA.
-our old Cheetah's can take that plane out without any effort.
-answer me how the hell would that plane defend itself against a 4th gen missile.
-SA can use the Bateleur to take out that expensive piece of junk.

Damn the nerve of this Yahoo boy that plane wouldnt even reach DRC before it gets shot down.
since you dont know how weapon platforms work in reality, i will post more about Super Tucano as the days come.

take this for a snack .... grin

world war II propeller combat aircraft have range of over 4,000km and travel from london to italy on bombing raids

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Lancaster

a propeller aircraft is much harder to detect by enemy radar.

they have zero jet engine emissions and very hard for heat seeking anti aircraft missiles and more difficult for infra red missiles too.

they fly above the ceiling/altitude of shoulder held manpad anti-aircraft missiles and laser guided missiles.

they can be easily confused with civilian light training and private flying club planes like Cessna aircraft, one defeated the whole of USSR/Russia's super power air defence systems in this modern times.

"Hundreds of military chiefs were forced to resign after amateur German pilot Mathias Rust penetrated the Soviet air defence system 25 years ago.

Twenty-five years ago, on May 28, 1987, as the Soviet Union celebrated the Day of the Border Guard, a single-engined Cessna-172 plane flew through Soviet air defences and landed near Red Square in Moscow, just missing overhead wires."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sponsored/rbth/features/9306507/remember-mathias-rust-1987.html

they have less noise, can fly low almost belly to the ground.

if nigerian air force starts using her new super tucano light propeller warplane with its 4,800km very long range, we have an edge over south africa, we can fly undetected into your porous and poorly monitored long borders and with cannon shells do havoc....

and other things like japanese kamikaze pilots used propeller warplanes in a very destructive way.

south africa has NO warplane that can match the range of nigeria's coming super tucano.

more posts on this issue later in the days to come.

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:57pm On Dec 05, 2013
CraigB: By your logic, no one should mention the world wars on this thread.
@chris 365 said 31 years ago, was there a world war II 31 years ago ? fool grin

south african air force is the first in african history to be bombed and k.illed in their own headquaters on home soil. FACT, live with it tongue tongue

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:51pm On Dec 05, 2013
chris365: You probably weren't born by then. So you won't know that that same military of 31 years ago is 100 times better than your modern day military including the rest of Africa. Teach yourself and stop ranting like a senseless parrot.
you f.inished him grin

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:35pm On Dec 05, 2013
Fighter Pilot: That was not an actual bombing, it was a failed attempt. Sorry for your try. Gooddluck.
fool yourself , not us grin

south african air force made history as the first african air force to be b.ombed in their own air force headquaters and k.illed like chicken grin

"The ANC's submission said that the bombing was in response to a South African cross-border raid into Lesotho in December 1982 which killed 42 ANC supporters and civilians, and the assassination of Ruth First, an ANC activist and wife of Joe Slovo, in Maputo, Mozambique.

11 of the casualties were SAAF personnel and hence a military target"

see your south african air force officer standing shocked looking like a 'dundee united' outside your air force headquarters grin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Street_bombing


[img]http://1.bp..com/-FUo-5TC9sg4/UioHynnjWtI/AAAAAAAAETk/7cUEzay4vSI/s1600/CHURCH+STREET+1983+Umkhonto.jpg[/img]
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
Thiza: @rka1 WELL THOUGHTOUT RESPONSE WHEN NIGERIA IS AT THE RECEIVING END BUT WHEN SOUTH AFRICA FACED THE SAME SITUATION IN CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC ALL SORTS OF INSULTS WERE TRADE BY YOUR KIND.
hey listen up Mr @Thiza ! we did not insult your over-rated south african military for their seleka defeat.

go back to this thread from month of march to april, @Henry as a good nigerian started with special sympathy and condolence greetings to the south african soldiers k.illed by seleka.

then @Henry went ahead to start praising your soldiers 'courage' and 'superb world record' kill ratio, and i stopped him (with due respect to you sir @Henry, you be my oga patapata anytime, i salute you boss !)

i told him not to believe any south african combat casualty because your country is master of military propaganda.

then @andrewza started the massive propaganda lies.

south african army casualties 15 soldiers, seleka rebels casualties 300.

after a few days, south africans changed seleka rebels casualties to 500 dead.

after a few weeks south africans increased seleka rebels casualties to 800 dead.

we nigerians dont like lies, deception, and fraud on our nairaland forum, so we kicked against it and reacted very hot and hard ....call that insults if you wish.

your people were trying to deceive us into believing that south african military is the strongest in africa with super-human capabilities in combat and supernatural k.ill ratios that the whole world has never seen before.

now today @andrewza has increased seleka death rate to over 1,000 rebels dead, while south african army casualty remains frozen at 15 dead.

if we insult you for being fraudsters and scammers of war propaganda lies, did we do wrong ?



zaandrew: The base it self was never over run.

We lost 15 men and killed over a thousand (though many of the seleka died days latter from infection)
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:20pm On Dec 05, 2013
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:19pm On Dec 05, 2013
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south africans now increase seleka rebels casualty to over 1,000 and keep SANDF casualty at constant 15 soldiers grin grin


zaandrew: The base it self was never over run.

We lost 15 men and killed over a thousand (though many of the seleka died days latter from infection)


so it was not a slauter.

We had planned on flying renforments in but FOMAC and the french did not what a escasltion. Both have now asked SA to return and probly regret stand on the side line during the battel.

Could not reinforce with out realling pissing the french of and Fomac so withdrawl was the only opstion.

BH seems to be getting bolder and stronger with each attack. How long till nigeria becomes a syria.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
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[size=16pt]state of emergency declared in south africa, terrorists rule the land, kick the military[/size]

the first state of emergency could not stop terrorists ruling south africa with about 100 successful attacks on south african military and government sensitive and well guarded bases and facilities, therefore in 1986 the second state of emergency was declared and Andrew Zondo is hanged by the regime for his part in the Amamzimtoti bomb blasts.


http://www.anc.org.za/show.php?id=73

[img]http://4.bp..com/-Z_p6ard2GeU/UbRCJkcUsYI/AAAAAAAABRA/LcRBwwuQdLU/s1600/church-street-bombs.jpg[/img]

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[img]http://1.bp..com/-FUo-5TC9sg4/UioHynnjWtI/AAAAAAAAETk/7cUEzay4vSI/s1600/CHURCH+STREET+1983+Umkhonto.jpg[/img]


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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
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[size=16pt]nuclear power station of south africa bombed by ANC [/size]


Date: 19 December, 1982

In a well-planned attack on the south africa's Koeberg Nuclear Power Station in Cape Town, Umkhonto we Sizwe (MK) causes heavy damage. MK, translated as the Spear of the Nation, is the military wing of the African National Congress (ANC) successfully sabotaged the multi-million dollar Koeberg plant.

http://www.sahistory.org.za/dated-event/anc-attacks-koeberg-nuclear-power-station-0

south african military was asleep and caught flat footed once again on home soil by rag tag ANC bushmen terrorists wrecking havoc on a heavily guarded and vital nuclear power station tongue


dummy south african military CANNOT even safeguard a delicate nuclear power plant, terrorists could have blown up the whole of south africa tongue


https://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas//PretNukeAttack.jpg


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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
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[size=16pt]south african air force headquaters bombed by ANC terrorists[/size]


many south african airforce officers were k.illed by the African National Congress's 20 May 1983 car bombing of headquarters of the South African Defence Force in Pretoria.

http://www.sahistory.org.za/dated-event/south-african-air-force-bombs-anc-maputo

this was the best and most professional era in military of south africa, the much respected SADF , more powerful than today's SANDF

south african air force made history as the first air force in africa to get their heads kicked by local terrorists right on their homeland backyard grin


[img]http://cdn.theguardian.tv/brightcove/poster/2012/5/10/120510Syria_6160725.jpg[/img]
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:11am On Dec 03, 2013
Fighter Pilot: So, What about Nigeria?
the difference is clear....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Nigeria

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