₦airaland Forum

jln115:
Were in your source does it state that SF are part of border patrolling?

SF is doing anti-Rhino poaching operations you nincompoooop !!!

mzilakazi:
The founder of that company is Eeben Barlow. Dummy!!!

Who does not know that? Dummy !!!!

mzilakazi:
Liar

Your family wasted their investments on you.

You are the liar, but more of a dunce by birth

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?Itemid=188&catid=87:border-security&id=37586:december-a-busy-month-for-operation-corona-border-forces&option=com_content&view=article

Patchesagain:
who did the training?

Nigerians or South AFricans?

STTEP staff are citizens of different countries mixed up in a private company employment.

snydergp1st:
Show me where SA SF forces has been deployed to border patrols.

SANDF Operation Corona in your own backyard there....dummy

Patchesagain:
So you would buy the T-72 over the K2 Black Panther?

You are aware that the Black Panther is the most advanced tank in the world? Superior to the latest Abrams?

No one particular 3rd generation tank is best in the world, their armour mix varies and are classified. Unless you want to talk T14 Armata that is a new generation and outclasses every other tank.

Patchesagain:
Cuba trained 70,000 South African troops including artillerymen, armored corps, singnals corps, mech inf corps, different special forces of the army-navy-air force and Medical Corps?

South African army is NOT training Nigerian army.

Cuban national air force is training South Africa's national air force. Deal with it

jln115:
Seems like they are doing quite well!!

"In the past 12 month period the 13 companies deployed as part of Operation Corona have confiscated contraband, mainly cigarettes and liquor, worth more than R100 million and also stopped more than 15 tons of dagga, valued at R50 million, from reaching illegal markets in South Africa.

The soldiers patrolling the country’s borders, on foot and horseback as well as on motorcycles and in specifically modified and strengthened bakkies, also apprehended 80 000 undocumented persons. These range from people attempting to enter South Africa illegally, either in search of work or to sell goods on which no tax or excise duty has been paid. Soldiers handed them over to the SA Police Service and Department of Home Affairs for further action.

With the broad mandate of securing South Africa’s borders the soldiers were also responsible for the arrest of 2 000 known criminals, recovering more than 300 stolen vehicles and 18 000 head of livestock, mostly cattle but also goats, sheep and chickens.

A hundred and three weapons of various calibres and types were also confiscated from undocumented persons and illegal immigrants."

More dead Rhinos, more illegal AK-47 smuggled to murder gangs/assassins all over South Africa today 2015, proves SANDF is a failure at the border operation/security mandate of their own fatherland.

Patchesagain:
South Africans trained your troops

The South African PMC trained 100,000 Nigerian troops including artillerymen, armored corps, signals corps, mechanized infantry corps, different special forces of army-navy-air force, and all the thousands trained by Israel, Pakistan, Russia..... Eben Barlow trained all of them together in 3 months?

Your ancestral tree has a mis-breed and that's you.....totally rëtärded beyond redemption.

patches689:
You are the one comparing it to the Mbombe

Remeber your argument, retarrd

Comparing Cannon FIRE-POWER if they meet face to face. Yes we can.

patches689:
30mm > 23mm

What is the name and data specs of the Mbombe 30 mm cannon and what is it's gunnery track record in battle ?.

Igirigi 23 mm gun is battle tested around the world in many wars for over 40 years and is perfectly reliable, accurate, deadly.... It defeated the national armies of many countries and held super power armies to stalemate in wars from Europe to Asia.

What the fück is the 30 mm gun on Mbombe ? Name it and preach about it's technical specifications so we can see.

patches689:
No - you said you choose battle tested over "paper stats"

Thus, you will choose t72 over K2 black panther? Correct?

He could if he wants to. T-72 is battle tested in super hot weather of deserts around the world with good performance reports. Western European tanks have reports of performance problems in hot climate. Yes he could buy T-72 instead of advanced tanks, oil rich Iraq and Venezuela recently bought hundreds of T-72 tanks in year 2009 because they know it is reliable in battle and time tested.

patches689:
We have two a year

Fact

Yet Cuba is now training SANDF

patches689:
Ratel has MRAP qualities including a v-hull - so well done on destroying your own argument

Can Ratel survive anti-tank land mine like an MRAP? Otokar Cobra has MRAP V-hull too.....mumu.

jln115:
Are we France?? We have arguably the best counter terrorism unit on the fvcking planet, our authorities have prevented several possible attacks. The Fact is Boko Harm or any other terrorist group will never be able to us what they did to Nigeria, France ect ect.

SANDF and SAAF combines with SA SF have failed to defeat ordinary cross border intruders and armed thieves having a good time dribbling your useless army around in your own homeland borders where SANDF is deployed to guard and protect....dummies...SANDF dummies
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patches689:
Is the gun stabilized?

Who says you can?

Terrorists and rebels all over the world with unstabilized 23mm cannon on Toyota have killed APCs and IFVs of conventional armies.

You don't know API shells ? 23mm Armour Piercing Incendiary shells, it penetrates IFV armour, light tank armour, and bursts into flames of fire when it enters the enemy vehicle, incendiary shells AP !

Igirigi 23 mm x 2 cannon is a born killer, even NATO armies fears 23 mm
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snydergp1st:
Yet its still better then what you have, and please don't mention your half dozen BTR-4.

Nigeria has 47 BTR-3 Guardian IFV, and many BTR-80A IFV too, it's not just BTR-4.

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Henry240:
Nope, a 30mm cannot be better than a dual 23mm.

ZSU-23 mm fires ARMOUR PIERCING shells too.

patches689:
- Nigerians cannot fit atgms on the vehicale
- No, it means 23mm of kinetic energy

30mm > 23mm

Igirigi ZSU 23 mm x 2 double barrel cannon fires ARMOUR PIERCING shells you dunce !
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mzilakazi:
The history books says it was a stalemate. SA alone fighting against Cuba and Angola.

South Africans finally admit they COULD NOT and DID NOT defeat tiny Cuba

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mzilakazi:
The history books says it was a stalemate. SA alone fighting against Russia, Cuba and Angola.

SADF + CIA + about 100,000 UNITA troops teamed up together. SA never fought Russia, else you won't be alive to browse Nairaland today.

patches689:
So you havent asked south africans to come to nigeria to teach you about how we fought them?

You have not taught yourselves how to fight such threats in your SANDF protected homeland borders where your army is being dribbled
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patches689:
Boko haram only ammounts to about 4,000 men

Citation needed !
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patches689:
Did that happen in angola?

Was Angola asymmetric warfare against an enemy with no I.D. ?

patches689:
1, Military sports day - competition based on military skills

2. One brigade sized exercise in 20 years?

SANDF has a minimum of 2 per year - and tou could only manage one in twenty?

Pathetic

I killed every Southie with this weblink, wrecked all your false claims that only you do brigade level exer :

http://www.panapress.com/Joint-military-exercise-kicks-off-in-Nigeria--13-523780-17-lang2-index.html

2004 and 2009, add the 2014 final offensive mock war game.....multiple brigade and division size exercise every 5 years.....how did you calculate that as once in 20 years? As I said earlier you are the dullest fruit every grown on your ancestral family tree
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patches689:
Citation needed

Read Eben Barlows military profile in SADF infantry, he is a basic rifle man.

patches689:
The comparison is "in general" - and in general the mbombe is better armored in every single way meaning it is the better vehical

The fact that you refuse to post any technicle deatils for the igirururur shows us that you know it is inferior and are only interested in argument for the sake of argument

Igirigi was never meant to have an MRAP chassis, same way Ratel does not have it. Vehicles are built for specific purposes.

Igirigi specs has been posted many times here by Henry since last year. You have this stinking smelly habit of asking people to repeat comments for you after they have posted it again and again.....I remember you just last month asking me again to post proof of ATR-42 Surveyor radar.

You must be the most retaaaaarded breed in your family ancestry.

jln115:
Never going to happen, Boko Harm would've been destroyed before they even knew they existed, if the same happened in SA. And BTW Boko Harm is a ragtag rebel group, South Africa on the other hand has fought modern and properly equipped militaries with proper air forces.

Same way France destroyed 8 terrorists before they massacred 130 people in Paris this month ..... Fool....Pretoria will collapse under such unconventional attack ! Fool, comparing conventional Angola Cuban war with asymmetric war that even USA army is using PMC to learn how to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan
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jln115:
Jap Boko Harm will destroy us BUT the Cubans and Angolans with much more advanced Soviet equipment and a proper airforce did Fokol to us!!

That war was not on your homeland territory, let's see one day how SANDF will cope with 20,000 Boko Haram brutal killers (20,000 is already about half your army o!) spread all over 100 cities and towns living among innocent civilians in your country including 10 secret terror camps in Kruger park bush land, then we will see how you easily fight a cancer that is inside your own stomach !

SANDF has not been battle tested by Nigerian standards.

Keep driving around town in MRAP vehicles taking photos of your half dead HIV sick army with 30 battalions of your troops already weakened by HIV virus before any war even starts
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Henry240:
- Mumu, "so can a version of Igirgi carry ATGMs".


- Dual 23mm means double the fire power. 43mm worth of rushing kinetic energy, not even the Hulk can withstand that.

ZSU-23 also fires Armour Piercing shells and we have them aplenty in our ordnance stores.

Henry240:
"What's the Ratel?"

30 year old obsolete welded steel junk, ugly like Medusa !