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CraigB: Don't compare yourselves to the US, bozo. The US has been fighting a foreign foe, outside the US.

FAILED !!!

your case is worse than that of USA, america is fighting al qaeda terrorists with mujahedeen support.

south african army soldiers and air force captains are being k.illed by ordinary Rhino horn thieves right inside your homeland soil of kruger park....and the incompetent seleka beaten south african 60,000 man military force CANNOT stop the poachers !

SANDF IS A FIRST CLASS FAILURE AT HOME

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NaijaPikinGidi: Since when did SANDF start keeping secrets! Even Thiza knows all the secrets. He has photos to show afterall Is this AndrewZA's new way of running away from very hard-hitting facts? Just wondering aloud.

what else do you expect to hear from a south african navy cook/chef disguised as a combat soldier ? even a Rhino poacher will k.ill this @andrewza man in combat

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zaandrew: I never menstioned the artical. Just pointed out that the helcopter used is wrong(wrong country and wrong helcopter) and some one who claims to be a expert should have picked that up. I don't blam the reporter, not there fault they ignorant most people are when it comes to the milltary.

i dont care about correcting a jounalist's phot image....as long as his story is true and yes its true story confirmed by south african government.

neither the journalist nor myself, wrote a line on that photo and say its the Augusta 109, the reporter did not have the south african photo and he wanted a pic for his story, he used an asian helicopter that crashed in a bush like kruger park, but his story is perfectly true.

journalists all over the world do that same thing when they cannot find exact photos and they need a picture for their story, they get an alternative.

if you are not intelligent enough to know how journalists operate, then you must be living in a remote farming village.

Augusta 109 helicopter ? i know more about it than you do. just yesterday i posted its photo with labels of its body parts and hardware on page 686 for people to see, you never did that on this forum, did you ?

buffoon of simons town

zaandrew: No the artical he posted showed that they were forced out of the base and the sudan army saved the day.

i will not waste my time to go look for @Patriot4's old post with source that proved on this forum nigerian army resisted and fought hard against the sudanese militia attack of about 10 times the size of the nigerian contingent, untill other UN troops came to join nigeria, about 100 nigerian soldiers against about 1,000 Sudan motorized militia fighters, they could not enter the nigeria army base even though we were surrounded.

unlike south african army vs seleka, nigerian army sent more soldiers into sudan, not run away like SANDF who first surrendered to beg seleka for same passage to the airport and hide under the p..a..n..t..s of some french soldiers, then ran away from CAR finally, refused to go back and fight seleka because south african soldiers want monthly salary payment but never want to die in war.

Sudan's army rescued nigerian army ? Sudan's army and the attacking supporter of APC were allies on the same side killing the black people nigeria went to save. you dont even know simple information about the Dafur battle, then you poet with no source and twist the truth with your usual fake stories.....south africa has a satellite as at today 2013....DSTV movie channel operated by @andrewza

zaandrew: Second post a proof that a sa solder has been killed by a poacher. No menstion has been made to that effect.

ignorant fool. ordinary poachers are killing south african military in your homeland backyard there in kruger park and you dont even know it maybe the poachers will soon capture you yourself



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SANDF soldier killed in Kruger Park
AUG 20, 2013.
A soldier has been killed during an operation in the Kruger National Park, the SA National Defence Force said on Monday.[/size]

http://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/2013/08/20/sandf-soldier-killed-in-kruger-park?filter=all_comments



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Rhino horn thieves waste south african soldiers/officers and helicopter

The k.illed soldiers and officers are:

Captain Jacobus Andries van Rensburg

Captain MP Chabalala

Sergeant Paulus Shongela Ndishishi

Sergeant GP Ruiters

Lance Corporal Bheki Petros Cele.

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Johannesburg - The SA National Defence Force on Monday released the names of the five soldiers who died in a helicopter crash in the Kruger National Park.

"It is with sadness that the SANDF announces the names of the members who were in a fatal helicopter crash," the department of defence said in a statement.

The soldiers were: Captain Jacobus Andries van Rensburg; Captain MP Chabalala; Sergeant Paulus Shongela Ndishishi; Sergeant GP Ruiters and Lance Corporal Bheki Petros Cele.

On Saturday night, a helicopter conducting a scheduled aerial patrol of the Kruger National Park - as part of an anti-rhino poaching operation - crashed, killing the five SANDF members on board.

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Kruger-helicopter-crash-victims-named-20130401


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zaandrew: You can try to hit somthing with your 1975 atoll. It will be fun to watch that failer.

The rooivalk is a attack helcopter. Most do not carry AAMs. Even so iraq and iran did shot at each helcopters with ATGMs.


The air force has all ready fired and used A darter. 2014 is when mass producstion takes place.


No it not. It is a OPV because of it's size, speed and fire power.

And are you those countries?

hahahaha ; you and @saengine were the ones wasting my time in naval blockade simulation before now, threatening my F-7 jets with some non-existing Rooivalk helicopter air to air missiles. good to see i have forced you to confess your fraud...south african Rooivalk helicopters have NO air to air missiles as at today, and so they will all be shot down by nigerian F-7 jets if you use them in any naval blockade as at today, as at this year 2013.

you are the only soldier toy soldier i know who is excited about some foolish arabs using helicopter air to ground missiles for air to air combat...those arabs are just as foolish as you are, thats why you like repeating that foolish story

i dont care about any certification/testing, south african sources confirmed to air force technology report that A-Darter missile will NOT be in service with south african military until year 2014. fact, i posted with source just yesterday

how many times in 6 months will i lecture you with sources that a ship is not OPV or Frigate because of its size, rather because of its weapons/armaments on board. go back to page 500 and see a chinese Type 022 boat that is 8 times smaller in weight than nigerian Type 056 warships and the tiny chinese boat is armed with 8 C-803 anti-ship missiles that can sink the whole south african navy from 250km away distance. go back to page 500 and see it there, you master of mis-information.

speed ? the Type 056 and Valour frigate have exactly the same speed of 28 knots. please stop posting nonsense, master of mis-information.

firepower ? wait till nigerian Type 056 arrives our lagos port next year. nigerian version is superior to the other countries, bigger size, heavier weight, and only nigerian version has a full helicopter hanger for permanent air operations at sea without base/habour support, all the other countries own including china have only ordinary helipad to land the helicopter but no air operations support capability.

missiles ? yes wait, the ships specifications are being changed for superior perfomance, same reason the original helipad we were told before has been changed to a full helicopter hanger. the OPV story is a mere story, the document with ministry of defence says light frigate.

wait, 2014 is not far away. i wont be on this forum then for sure...but lets all see it when the ship arrives. the specs are being upgraded.

even beegeagle has started changing his story now to reflect new information coming out on the nigeria ships

"The fact that the P18N OPVs were developed from the Type 056 corvette means that from the perspectives of training, maintenance and interoperability, the Type 056 corvette and P18N OPVs would perfectly complement each other – with commonality in operating systems and navtronics, helicopters and replenishable stock.


Nigeria’s incoming 1,800 ton P18N stealth Offshore Patrol Vessels are enlarged OPV variants of the Pattani OPV/Type 056 corvette which, as far as naval aviation goes, features the added advantage of incorporating fully-fledged hangars from which airframes such as the Agusta A109e Power and more appropriately, the Harbin Z-9EC anti submarine warfare(ASW) helicopter can operate."

http://beegeagle./2013/08/11/chinas-ultramodern-and-freshly-inducted-95-metre-1440-ton-type-056-corvette-and-harbin-z-9-helicopter-pairing-re-examined-workable-template-for-nigerias-incoming-1800-ton-p18n-stealth-opvs/


dont be in a hurry, wait till 2014 and see nigerian navy with two most d.eadly warships in africa. be patient

swanky@vodamail:
You can be naughty sometimes you push him to actual submit that BH. Is not attacking full scale yet they still get bliksemmed or SMH

their leader is dead, boko haram has lost what al-qaeda lost, never the same again since osama bin laden was killed.

it is only a 33% south african brain that will say the fighter that is hiding in the bush and cannot come out, is winning the war against the fighter that is bold enough to show his face and capture/control territory

...reason why south african army ran away from seleka in CAR and still declared itself winner of the battle....usain bolt run away speed ...cowards, toy soldiers SANDF

see 'nelson mandela's grandson' riding your army's vehicle below...fools

zaandrew: That pic is just more proof that you a fool that has zero knowldge and is talking out of his ass?

thsts the helicopter pic from the original story.

http://www.trtromanian.com/trtWorld/en/newsDetail.aspx?HaberKodu=16c0a897-5ade-4d1e-a18f-aa4775f0dbed

zaandrew: Camaroon made terrtorial gains in nigeria.

Sudan rebels over ran a nigerian base and nigeria with drew from all there un missions because BH is giving them such a hard time.

show me that source for cameroon.

cameroon went to court to claim bakassi peninsula by legal means at world court, not by war....and bakassi is cameroons land according to all colonial maps and documents, nigerians were living on another man's land, we just gave it back to the lawful owner.

show me that source for sudan. i hate repeating old posts, reason i am getting to hate this thread.

@patriot4 posted the sudan attack on nigerian peace keepers base, our soldiers repelled the attack, and we remained in sudan battle fields for many years after that attack, we did not run away in 18 hours like south african army ran from Seleka rebels and flew back to soweto airport for fear of seleka child soldiers.

boko haram ? nigerian amry has killed their leader in gun battle. we dont see his live videos again on al jazeera news/TV since june 30.

Rhino poachers killed south african soldiers in krugar park, thats a hard time for SANDF from ordianry thieves. 100 boko haram s.uicide bombers camouflaged as civilians will shut down the whole of pretoria with fear and panic.

70% of the remaining white men will leave south africa and run away finally to Australia if b.oko haram strikes with only 100 s.uicide bombers each in pretoria, cape town, durban, and johanesburg.

all south africans are born cowards who run away from the shadow of death even before the real death itself appears

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zaandrew: Yet we still have more isrt than your chinnes AAMs? We just have more air craft.

Well the hawk is not a fighter but a a training aircraft with a light attack roll. The impale never carried AAMs.

The mokape was certfied last year and there were a few test firings. SAAF has just not orderd any mokape. That does not mean they can not.

The A-darter is still certfied for the gripen somthing you did not think could be true.


NNS is not getting light frigats you geting OPVs, you don't even know if it will carry any missiels and these are missiels that we menstion are made in sa and have been used by the SANDF. The only resaon they not being rushed is that we at peace so things take there time.

south africa has only 25 Iris missiles, thats all the air to air missiles usable in south africa today.

nigeria has 20 PL-9 missiles and over 100 Atoll missiles, we have over 120 air to air missiles usable today in nigeria.

nigeria has over 6 times more air to air missiles than south africa today.

mokopa is an air to ground missile of south africa, NOT air to air missile, it is not relevant to the discussion of yesterday.

A-Darter missile is NOT in service and cannot be used by south africa until year 2014. fact with source i posted today. s.hut up !

nigerian navy Type 056 is a light frigate called an OPV because it is multi-purpose. defenceweb states that in the nigerian navy request that brought the ship to our fleet.

"The French ADIT research agency says the 10 year plan would unfold in three phases.

In the first, scheduled to last two years, Abuja will procure two light frigates and two 85-metre offshore patrol vessels (OPVs)"

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4023&Itemid=363

all Type 056 warships versions as light frigates (china), corvettes (bangladesh), OPV (thailand) all carry missiles, go google it. fact !

i dont care what you say.
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CraigB: In other words, there are no air-to-air combat kills or sinks etc to speak of. You should have just said so instead of wasting our time and making a foöl of yourself.

Thank you, Mr Seleka for your two admissions tonight. Everything else is of no consequence. You can knock yourself out for all I care. Argue with yourself.

thanks kid, it was nice kicking you around like a football once again. sleep like a rhino (but keep your horn safe from poachers), goodnight

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only Biafra's army has ever stood firm face to face to fight nigerian army....and that is only because Biafran army itself was a former part of nigerian army.

every other force fights and runs for cover when nigerian army shows face, if they k.ill 20, we k.ill 200.

run away enemies list.

1. Chad
2. Maitatsine insurgents
3. Cameroon
4. Boko Haram insurgents
5. will be South Africa one day coming....

CraigB: Quite predictably. Smoke and mirrors as a squirming Mr Seleka is known to resort to.

Too bad it changes nothing and remains weak and telling.

You introduced the topic. You made the admission. Not I.

So, post all the rhino stories you want and argue with yourself until you build a road to Timbuktu. The fact remains: you voluntarily admitted that an under-strength boko haram is what your military is dealing with. All the rhino stories in the world won't erase that. So, there and thank you very much for your beautiful own goal.

only you deceive yourself that is an own goal, no military man worth his rank will think like a dummy crayfish

i love that post, i repeat it again in bold fonts....my new anthem !

[size=16pt]b.oko h.aram is NOT bold enough to launch a full scale offensive against nigeria. they are hit-and-run guerrillas who cannot stand and face the enemy without running from combat like south african army ran away from seleka rebels. FACT !
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Rhino horn thieves waste south african soldiers/officers and helicopter

The k.illed soldiers and officers are:

Captain Jacobus Andries van Rensburg

Captain MP Chabalala

Sergeant Paulus Shongela Ndishishi

Sergeant GP Ruiters

Lance Corporal Bheki Petros Cele.

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Johannesburg - The SA National Defence Force on Monday released the names of the five soldiers who died in a helicopter crash in the Kruger National Park.

"It is with sadness that the SANDF announces the names of the members who were in a fatal helicopter crash," the department of defence said in a statement.

The soldiers were: Captain Jacobus Andries van Rensburg; Captain MP Chabalala; Sergeant Paulus Shongela Ndishishi; Sergeant GP Ruiters and Lance Corporal Bheki Petros Cele.

On Saturday night, a helicopter conducting a scheduled aerial patrol of the Kruger National Park - as part of an anti-rhino poaching operation - crashed, killing the five SANDF members on board.

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Kruger-helicopter-crash-victims-named-20130401

i have b.roken enough soweto heads for today. goodnight fools

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CraigB: To quote, Ronald Reagan: "When you are explaining, you are losing".

....means all university lecturers all over the world, are losers beacuse they explain things ? fool

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CraigB: Just to preserve this gem for future generations.

Thank you, Mr Seleka.

yours is too small a font, see my own giant fonts i re-posted again, i will do it as much as i want. its technically sound military statement for the wise ....not fools like you south africans

any enemy that uses guerilla hit-and-run tactics against a standing opponent with known bases and location, has accepted the military superiority of that standing opponent.

same way ANC guerrillas were not bold enough to launch full scale offensive against south african defence forces in the 1980s.

you have zero military knowledge...you that posted a source that said Cobra APC is made in China...fool. ignoramus

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CraigB: A weak, throw-away statement of admission. Quite telling.

Once again, thank you for the admission that you volunteered freely. Long may it haunt you on this thread.

it does not haunt me, i will gladly repeat it 1,000 times. i enjoy it. its a word for the wise, not the foolish ;

[size=16pt] b.oko h.aram is NOT bold enough to launch a full scale offensive against nigeria. they are hit-and-run guerrillas who cannot stand and face the enemy without running from combat like south african army ran away from seleka rebels. FACT ! [/size]

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CraigB: You can post all the rhino and chopper pictures you want, it does not take away from the fact that boko haram has not gone full-scale (by your own admission). Yet, your soldiers are swallowing bullets. It's predictable that you'll try to shift focus from that fact and on to something else. Well, too bad it won't work. I didn't come up with the admission. You did.

You made the admission voluntarily because you were trying to be clever. Your diversion only serves to confirm it.

An under-strength Boko Haram is giving your soldiers a hard time. SMH. The truth has finally come out.

ordinary thieves/rhino poachers are giving both south african army and air force a hard time. fact with sources posted

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CraigB: I see you talking a lot, but I don't see you showing us air-to-air combats kills, sinks etc like you were asked to. Now, be a good boy and produce the stuff you were asked to produce. Failing that, admit that you don't have it and move on. We won't judge you. Don't give us long stories.

Just kills and sinks, please.

If Boko Haram is not attacking Naai-geria full scale, then Naai-geria is pathetic, don't you think? Boko Haram hasn't even gone full-scale yet; and your soldiers are swallowing bullets. Ok. Sweet.

Thank you for the admission.

i hate repeating posts. however, i will for the moment.

Rhino poachers have not attacked south africa at all, not to even talk of full scale combat. Poachers are attacking Rhinos, and south african soldiers are k.illed easily by these ordinary poachers/thieves, the poachers even 'shot down' a south african air force helicopter trying to chase the thieves and 5 south african amry soldiers died in the process....

only 100 boko haram s.uicide b.ombers disguised as civilians will ruin pretoria city in one day of s.uicide b.ombing.

http://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/2013/08/20/sandf-soldier-killed-in-kruger-park?filter=all_comments

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21986456

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[size=16pt] south african Gripen jets have only ONE missile each

south african Hawk jets have NO missile at all

south african Rooivalk helicopter gunships have NO missile at all

south african A-Darter missile will NOT be in service until year 2014. Fact.


A-Darter missile will enter service with the South African Air Force (SAAF) and Brazilian Air Force (FAB) next year 2014.

http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/a-darter-air-to-air-missile/[/size]


if you south africans want to claim use of weapons and missiles your military does not have today, what will naval blockade simulation war look like today, if i also use nigeria's two new stealth light frigates arriving next year 2014 and i arm them with C-803 anti-ship missiles that have super range of 300km and fire control radar guidance of 250km ?

we too can claim and use weapons not yet delivered as at today.

you these fools of soweto ! b.loody liars, your 33% brain cannot even manufacture intelligent lies

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CraigB: Give us a break.

how many more times will i break your soweto heads

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CraigB: You were asked a simple question.

Answer the question. Don't make noise. If you can't produce what you were asked, just say so and be happy. Don't give us stories about smart thinkers because we all know how that's gonna end.

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"Show me any Nigeria air to air combat kill,any Nigerian MBT(Main battle tank) kill. Any Nigerian counter battery firing. Any Nigerian submarine kill(sinking). Any Nigeria drone in action,selecting targets for howitzers. Any Nigerian successful interception of a jet fighter. Any record of Nigerian howitzers destroying armoured vehicles,tanks,infantry,anti aircraft systems and war planes. If there's non that means Nigeria lacks war experience and doesn't have a unique way of operating like the SANDF(Long distances,less supplies)."
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In any case, Boko Haram has been bold enough to attack Naai-geria full-scale. Not so? Your own Boko Haram.

You even deployed jets, to no avail. Give us a break.

if your brain works, use it. i answered him with information on nigerian border wars with chad and cameroon. we used tanks and jet fighters against them, chad and cameroon were too afraind to fly their own jet fighters against nigeria....or nigerian air force pilots should have gone over to them and fly their jets for them to make the war more like a hollywood movie ?

b.oko h.aram is not attacking nigeria full scale, you dont know military termionology. boko haram is operating as hit and run guerrilas, not a full scale offensive force....they wont try that with nigerian army....only a Crayfish like you will use 5,000 men to launch full scale face to face attack against 120,000 men of nigerian army...or they want to use witchcraft power ?

dummy crayfish....inside naija pot of soup

Mike..ZA:
Show me any Nigeria air to air combat kill,any Nigerian MBT(Main battle tank) kill. Any Nigerian counter battery firing. Any Nigerian submarine kill(sinking). Any Nigeria drone in action,selecting targets for howitzers. Any Nigerian successful interception of a jet fighter. Any record of Nigerian howitzers destroying armoured vehicles,tanks,infantry,anti aircraft systems and war planes. If there's non that means Nigeria lacks war experience and doesn't have a unique way of operating like the SANDF(Long distances,less supplies).

answering my own question with your own irrelevant question does not show you as a smart thinker.

no country in Africa has been bold enough to attack nigeria full scale. nigeria defeated cameroon in border war, cameroon has no single main battle tank in all their history till today, so should nigeria give them ours ? cameroon's air force alpha jets refused to fly during bakassi conflict because they fear nigeria's superior Jaguar jets.

chad fought border war with nigeria, they ran back into the sahel savannah with their amoured vehicles when nigerian T-55 and Scorpion tanks showed up. chad's air force refused to fly for fear of nigerian Mig 21 MF jet fighters.

so if Africa is afraid to fight us, does that make nigeria weak ? No, it means we are too strong for any african country except egypt.

i have answered you, now you answer me ....

i said : "if you have a source to prove that, post it or else lets wait and see a Hawk fire an A-darter missile in air to air combat drill."

answer my question.

zaandrew: Well I have jus shown we the a darter is certfied on the gripen. So you all ready wrong.

you showed me NOTHING....quote a source and let your source confirm the test firing of south african missile on the swedish Gripen. show me that specific source !

Mike..ZA:
Using the NTW-20 sniper rifle. SANDF snipers in the FIB took out an M23 machine gun position which was used to pin down the FARDC today. Try get information from Makenga's boys how is it like to be a "foe" of the SANDF.

quote BBC or Reuters or VOA source for the above claim please

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zaandrew: So you not atoll we have r,d and v daters.

And you have less aam's than sa.

only IRIS missile works on Gripen jet as at today and you have only one missile for each Gripen. dont write ant A or B or Z data to cover up your open a.zz

nigeria has over 100 Atoll air to air missiles for F-7 jet. Fact ! dont let me rubbish you with sources again, like the APR-40 story. sharaaap dude !

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zaandrew: What. You think SIPRI can not be off with SA to. Each frigat has 2 quade cells 2x4 is what now.

same way your Gripen jets will fly with empty missile pylons/hardpoints, same way your Valour warships will sail with empty missile cells. fact !

south africa itself never hides basic military information, they are always boasting about what they have to show the world. SIPRI will see south african a.zz more than they see nigeria's , your country's military sh..i..t hole is always open to the public on internet...thats why i know too much about south african weapons and their weaknesses

@saengine has been boasting here that south african navy test fires anti-ship missiles regularly, so we dont even know if your warships have up to the 4 missiles each by now after 6 years, the number could be less since your people boast that south african navy test fires missiles regularly on all 4 warships. nice waste of money....$1 million per unit missile. fools

Gripen jets are short of missiles
Valour frigates are short of missiles

south african military weakness...live with it, or deal with it.
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zaandrew: The A darter has been certfied on the gripen and hawk all ready. This was achieved last year.

if you have a source to prove that, post it or else lets wait and see a Hawk fire an A-darter missile in air to air combat drill.

zaandrew: And M23 is hardly a trusted source i mean they not going to admit to war crimes

south africa too is hardly a trusted source. Angolan bush war and Seleka combat casualty figures dispute, fake satellite, extra extra extra

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Msauza: Of all 12 Nigerian F7-Ni only three are loaded with missiles with only one each and the rest are free falling bombs. That is a fact!!!

NO ! you posted wrong fact.

TRUE FACT IS : nigerian 12 F-7 jets have 20 PL-9 missiles to share and a big back up supply of over 100 Atoll missiles too, plus many air to ground rockets/rocket pods/special bombs all worth about $ 30 million of assorted ammunitions. fact !

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zaandrew: Who said they used that satellite.

you @andrewza said it. want me to repeat your post again ? liar

andrewza: http://www.sunspace.co.za/home/

Funy how sa is still takings pics after 2010

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[size=16pt]south african navy Valour Frigates have only 4 Exocet missiles for each warship instead of the standard 8 anti-ship missiles. fact.[/size]

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