₦airaland Forum

MikeCZAR:
A single day means Nigeria will have no warship!!!

The submarine can simply go outside the operational area to charge its batteries and come back to hunt. Your commanders will be terrified as won't if it is there or no.

FighterPilot:
I said let us stick to what the manufacturers say the same way you want it. On the same breath I can quote sources which will dispute CATIC about the PL-9C specs and you won't like it. Let us wait and see what will the manufacturer conclude about the specs of A-Darter.

FighterPilot:
Still it is no longer 35KM as you previously claimed.

FighterPilot:
Let us stick to what manufacturers are saying and stop adding lies.



The manufacturer is mum about A-Darter speed and range. So, everything else is just speculations.


http://www.deneldynamics.co.za/products/missiles/air-to-air-missiles/a-darter#

FighterPilot:
Nope they said the range is 20km not 22km or 35 km as you claimed.

patches689:
A-Darter range is 20km

Jackson, Paul, ed. (2004). All the World’s Aircraft 2004–2005. Surrey, UK: Jane’s. p. 810. ISBN 0-7106-2614-2.


Game
Over

FighterPilot:
One thing about Chinese is that their Mach is not the same as Mach that we know. Their Nike that they manufacture themselves apart from those designed under licence from Europe is something else. Their adidas is called abibas. That's how those guys are like, not so honest in making business.

FighterPilot:
Chinese have reputation of falsifying the specs of their weapons for market purposes. However, the range now is no longer 25km as you previously claimed and falls short of an IRIS-T range.

FighterPilot:
Briefly tell us how will it detect it because subs are mainly using mainly passive sonar and not radar?

patches689:
Its range is 500m minimum and 16km maximum

http://chinese-military-aviation..ca/p/missiles-i.html

Fvcking wrecked

Bookmarked for future use!!

patches689:
Quote where I said that.

patches689:
You think that the sub will wait until they have no time underwater left to snorkel? They will be constantly snorkeling and diving. That way, upon detection they will dive and have enough reserves left to maneuver.

patches689:
Did I specify how it would be detected?

No?

Ok.

So, since you cannot validate your statements, I am going to take it that you were talking sh1t about the ATR-42 detecting a snorkel, just like you were talking sh1t about the service ceiling of your drone. As usual, you were making things up in an attempt to tell us how your navy would stand a snowballs chance in hell against the SAN

My work here is done

Goodnight

I leave you with this picture of our 2 submarines operational during exercise young eagle - just to add a touch of salt to those wounds

Noise-making does NOT change the fact that you have confessed that your snorkeling submarine will be detected by us

patches689:
You think that the sub will wait until they have no time underwater left to snorkel? They will be constantly snorkeling and diving. That way, upon detection they will dive and have enough reserves left to maneuver.

patches689:
And so?

Did I say we were 100% going to get it?

Did I post like you did with the JF-17, Su30, Tucano, T84 Oplot, FH77 B05 L52?

I listed the competitors for the contract.

Fact is, you posted some bullsh1t about the service ceiling of your chinese drone... despite the fact that you have no idea what it is.

If you dont have any valid points left to raise, then I am done here.

patches689:
Proof of what?

Just admit it, you cant prove that the ATR-42 can detect an object with the RCS of a submarine snorkel.

Look, if this is all you have left I am done for the night.

patches689:
You think that the sub will wait until they have no time underwater left to snorkel? They will be constantly snorkeling and diving. That way, upon detection they will dive and have enough reserves left to maneuver.

patches689:
Which are all competing for the contract
.

patches689:
Did i say upon detection of the ATR-42 radar?

You said the ATR-42 could detect it.

Proof pls

patches689:
You think that the sub will wait until they have no time underwater left to snorkel? They will be constantly snorkeling and diving. That way, upon detection they will dive and have enough reserves left to maneuver.

patches689:
We dont know so we dont comment on it.

patches689:
Project Biro is not an IF

patches689:
I dont have to prove anything

You are the one who said that the ATR-42 can detect it

Prove it

patches689:
You think that the sub will wait until they have no time underwater left to snorkel? They will be constantly snorkeling and diving. That way, upon detection they will dive and have enough reserves left to maneuver.

patches689:
So you dont know the max altitude?

Why are you talking about things you dont know?

Do we deal with IF's in this thread?

patches689:
Prove that it can be detected while snorkeling

patches689:
But you said it was classified?

So, if you dont know

How can you say it can fly at 8.5km?

patches689:
Prove that it can be detected while snorkeling

FighterPilot:
So what do you call denel CIWS.

patches689:
So if you dont know it

How then are you making statements about its ability to engage a Valour Class?

patches689:
1. Look at the picture again. Stop wasting my time with childishness

2. Why are you avoiding my question: You said the ATR-42 can detect an object the size of a snorkel. Prove it

3. Irrelevant because you wont get with FLIR range.

Nope. Sub detects the ATR 42, or, it realizes that its radar is being messed with and dives. You think that the sub will wait until they have no time underwater left to snorkel? [size=13pt] They will be constantly snorkeling and diving [/size]. That way, upon detection they will dive and have enough reserves left to maneuver.

This is all pointless, because until you start posting citations about ATR 42 detection ranges of snorkels and the RCS of a sub snorkel... you have no argument as all you are doing is guessing

patches689:
So you dont know the ceiling?

patches689:
So now its 20km?

I thought you said it was 22km??

So now it has the same range as the A-darter?

lolly lolzy lol

patches689:
No

Because you said you know the ceiling

Which you dont.

Proves that you are talking kak as usual

patches689:
The 2DIV assault river crossing of the River Niger to take Onitsha on 9 October 1967 was under then Lt. Col. Murtala Mohammed. Using Inland Waterway ferries, and preceded by a three to four day artillery and air bombardment, on the night of October 8, 1967 two poorly trained and equipped federal battalions landed on the shores of Onitsha near the market. Ferries bringing reinforcements (including Panhard armored vehicles and ammo) to them were abandoned midstream by scared civilian ferry pilots. It became a turkey shoot with panicky federal troops roaming around in a discoordinated fashion. The Onitsha landing disaster took a great toll on Federal troops due to the ad hoc manner the troops embarked on the operation without adequate watermanship skill and air support. Two more attempts at a frontal river crossing were made before efforts to take Onitsha from Asaba were finally abandoned. In January 1968, after the abortive attempts to capture Onitsha from Asaba, Murtala moves up the Niger, crosses it at Idah and advances down to Awka and Onitsha, and captured Onitsha on 21 March 1968.

1. It was a river crossing
2. only 2 battalions were involved

Your own source killed your argument!! thanks for the help!!

In future, read what you are about to post

patches689:
None

patches689:
Its range is 500m minimum and 16km maximum
http://chinese-military-aviation..ca/p/missiles-i.html

Fvcking wrecked

Bookmarked for future use!!