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patches689:
Nope. Thats not how this works.

Striking out people's comments to cancel their words, is a sign of total defeat for South Africans.

It means the Nigerian's comment hurts so much you cannot face the shameful defeat, so you hide our words under strike-through lines

# Symbol Of Southies Defeat....they strike-out our commets
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patches689:
Where did I say that they will not work? Quote me.

All I want to know is how effective they are... 100%? 80%? what?

Go ask the Chinese manufacturer then
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patches689:
1. Valour Class have missiles

2. Combat suite obsolete compared to what?

South Africa has 4 Frigates and 3 Subs. Nigeria currently has none of these at sea

[size=13pt]All South Africans are afraid to answer our simple question since 3 days ago....

How many vessels does your Southie navy have ? [/size]

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patches689:
Obsolete and defective compared to what?

NNS Centenary solid state radar, FC radar, 100% digital navionics, stealth 76mm gun, HP-J 14 anti-missile defences...all modern 2014 tech
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patches689:
Your own argument kills you

Stop messing up this thread, Mr. Desperate !

Stop editing my comments and changing my words under my own name/moniker. It's a sign that I have defeated you beyond repair

Write your own arguments under your own name/moniker....if you have any courage left !
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patches689:
Who said air-traffic control is simple?

Cuba says so.

That's why they can understand it, but South Africans cannot, you need Cuba to teach you simple things
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patches689:
SIPRI makes no mention of Sonar Bouys for your Lynx

Citations please

SIPRI makes no mention of Sonar Bouys for South African Super Lynx .

Citations please
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patches689:
Provide citations for proof of dipping bouys

Thanks

All sources call them self homing torpedo armed Lynx ASW helicopters, it's up to you to prove that the guided torpedoes have no sonar in the helicopter to guide them to target.....LOL....show us how our guided torpedoes work without a sonar guidance....burden of proof is on you .

# Southie Foolishness On Display
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patches689:
No.

I have said nothing

You said that your decoys will defeat them - prove it.

Be a man and stand by what you say

Nope, I simply posted the decoy source, you challenged it, so you need to prove that Navy Technology website is wrong with their facts, so prove the decoys won't work, you are the one doubting the technical capability, so back your claim with a source or else you remain defeated
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patches689:
4 Frigates
3 subs

Nigeria has ZERO operational Frigates

AND

ZERO subs

You think bragging about a fleet of tiny speed boats is somehow impressive?

Clown

4 Frigates with empty missile and torpedo tubes plus obsolete combat suite ! Wow ! So that is all South African navy has to boast of? Tiny navy with only 4 ships.

Nigerian navy has about 400 vessels of all sizes, please summon courage and tell us :

How many vessels does your Southie navy have ?

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iblawi:
How will you even ask us to provide prove that what you think about us is wrong.

[size=13pt]You should prove that our Lynx have no sonar.
Prove that we don't have enough pilots like your dead airforce.
Prove that no country have BVR missile in sub Sahara Africa
Prove that Nigeria only have 3 F-7.
Prove that Nigeria have only 75 vessels. Etc
Prove all your claims. [/size]

That's a nuclear bomb dropped inside South African's pants....gbaaaaaam !
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MikeCZAR:
Nothing here.

Assumptions again.

What other warships use the same combat suite?

Tested against targets in exercises world perfectly fine.

On the other hand in its existence your has never fired a missile.

Nigerian navy has fired missiles, Otomats in sea exercises before, no navy does it all the time, SAN too did it only once with Valour frigates or you fire missiles every year like a ritual?

MikeCZAR:
Limited missile knowledge demonstrated again.

SAAF fighter pilots are among if not the best in sub Saharan Africa.

That Cuban training is not a operational requirement but a political decision they'll be train again when they come home in SAAF procedures.

Nigerians worship a South African trained former officer .

Personal opinion demonstrated again, no single source or citation to prove all your tales by moonlight story telling.

Anyway thanks for finally admitting that Col. Eben is NOT in your SANDF and not a military man anymore, he is a civilian.

#Suicide Comment Of The Week
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jln115:
Hey fvcktard!! the onus is not on me to provide the correct link. Post a link that clearly stats Nigeria operates ASW lynx's!!

Let me help you South African dullard, I have posted 3 different sources already, lets me add number 4 web link source for a fool who desperately needs Nigerian education....

"The Lynx Mk-89 was operated by a crew of two. The NN's were essentially an Anti-Submarine Warfare (ASW) weapons platform capable of deploying two self homing torpedoes (Aspide 244 Torpedoes) which were manufatured in Italy. The Lynx are designed to be operated from Frigates "


https://books.google.ca/books?id=hLiQBQAAQBAJ&pg=PT38&lpg=PT38&dq=Lynx+Mk-89&source=bl&ots=PJUd4j3jCM&sig=pQdKjrSs-XUdvNgnItCa4LNDuT4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CFoQ6AEwC2oVChMIquGK3-bvxwIV1zGICh0-jg8Q#v=onepage&q=Lynx%20Mk-89&f=false

You are a born foooooool
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jln115:
Yes teaching us skills that we don't have, just like we taught the US, Netherland, British, Nigeria ect ect skills they don't have, its what professional militaries do, oh and BTW SAAF trains The Royal Air Force of Oman as well!

Oman ? You train dullard Arabs? Yes, I see why, it's because the dullest bottom brain of the world is Yemen, and they are close to Oman, they live in the same Arabian desert as brothers.....that's why South Africa is ranked second dullest in the world and Arab Yemen is the dullest one step duller than you, so you can train them o !

Mumu Southie....he cannot open SIPRI database, retaaaaarrrded like Oman and Yemen pilots
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jln115:
Hey fvcktard!! the onus is not on me to provide the correct link. Post a link that clearly stats Nigeria operates ASW lynx's!!

Olodo

Confess that you cannot use weblink to open SIPRI arms database and extract information.....dullard whitey with zulu brain
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jln115:
Where did I say we trained British pilots?

We say Cuba is training SAAF, you reply that SA trains British military, why did you not specify the training with sources to prove it so we can compare it to what Cuba is doing to rescue South African air force from total collapse?

MikeCZAR:
The small number of the IRIS-T SRAAM is due to the fact that a missile was needed for the world security and the A-Darter was still unavailable.

How many Sub Saharan air forces have such missiles? Zero!!!!!!

Sub-Saharan countries like tiny Eritrea have BVR missiles with about 80 km range, they will wipe out SAAF.

Uganda has anti-radiation missiles, does SAAF have it? No.

Other Sub Saharan air forces have many aircraft that South Africa can only dream of like Alice in wonderland.

Your Southie airforce is nothing but plenty of painted aircraft colours and dozens of dullard pilots who have to be transported to Cuba to improve their dull heads with Cuban training, I said it many times on this forum that Cuban air force of teenage pilots defeated old men pilots of South African air force in the bush war, that's why your SAAF of today has retured to learn the trade form it's Cuban masters.

Why did you not ask Col. Eben Barlow to train your pilots? You said his boys fly NAF aircraft against Boko Haram, so why is South Africa running to Cuba to save your collapsed air force?

jln115:
What? Training with foreign militaries!! that's what professional militaries do/

If SAAF is truly professional, tiny Cuba will not be teaching your Gripen flying air force simple air AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL
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jln115:
Dude we train with other militaries to better our selves, that's what professional militaries do! The US, Netherlands, British ect ect ect have all come for training in South Africa to better themselves!!

You train the British to fly aircraft that Britain sold to you ? Prove it.
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MikeCZAR:
Weak attempt at a come back.


Try again!


The ZAR is Back.

.....from Soweto jail.....how was the food, still corn pap for all prisoners?

jln115:
Dude!! is that what you call a source? Your so called link says nothing about Nigerian lynx's!

How do you think I got all the data and information about specs, dates, and numbers of weapons transfer?

How do you think I know SAAF imported only 25 Iris-T missiles and SAN has only 17 Exocets ?

How do you think I post SIPRI information of all types and countries on this forum since 2012 ?

Dunce you are....full time mumu from birth

That's a source, SIPRI website link, click on it and go to arms transfer register, select country , supplier and receiver of arms.

Then select years of arms sales.

Fool.....dullard white boy with Zulu brain does not even know how to access information from international arms sales log

You are a disgrace to the nation of South Africa.....dull headed people, second dullest brains in the world according to WEF report
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MikeCZAR:
What are decoys designed to do?

The seduce or fool the incoming missile's seeker.

here's the twist with late seeker activation it means you might deploy your decoys while the missile is still approaching a point or area where it will activate its seeker and lock on.

Sea skimming missiles are difficult to detect due the fact they fly below the radar cone coverage of targets they are attacking.

In terms of combat capability the SA navy tactical fleet can reduce any navy in sub Saharan Africa to the button of the sea.

Your private garbage opinion with ZERO proof or source. Keep ranting in your bedroom with self delusion
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Henry120:
Soweto Nation of clueless hopelessness strikes again!


Since the start of this month with 24 SA Air Force (SAAF) members now undergoing extended training in various aviation-related disciplines in the island republic of Cuba.

That the airborne arm of the SA National Defence Force (SANDF) has its personnel problems, particularly in high-level skills sectors such as pilots, navigators and aircraft technicians, is common knowledge. It was again raised, albeit briefly, by defence minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula at AFB Waterkloof two weeks ago. She was briefing the media on aspects around the charter of a bizjet owned by a Gupta-owned company that flew Deputy President Cyril Ramaphosa and a small entourage to and from Japan.

She indicated approaches had been made by former SAAF members keen to sign up again and also mentioned collaboration with Cuba on training.

Department of Defence head of communications, Siphiwe Dlamini, confirmed this week that 24 SAAF members were now in Cuba.
“There are four SAAF members undergoing pilot training over a four year period and five members undergoing air traffic control training over a two year period. Another eight SAAF members are undergoing aviation engineering over a six year period and a further seven are doing three year aviation technical training courses. The courses commenced on September 1.


“The aim of the initiative is to increase co-operation and working relations between the Revolutionary Army of Cuba and SANDF in the spirit of improved co-operation as well as the promotion of military to military relations between the two countries,” he said.

The SA Army, specifically its vehicle maintenance section, has had about 100 Cuban mechanics and diesel specialists in its ranks since February as part of a technical agreement between the Caribbean island country and South Africa. They are working alongside South African maintenance personnel on Samil vehicles to create an internal pool of technical skills in the SANDF, Dlamini said at the time.
“This will enable the defence for to properly service and maintain its vehicles,” he said during a visit to a military vehicle maintenance workshop in Potchefstroom.

In April SANDF spokesman Brigadier General Xolani Mabanga said 25 students who planned on making their careers in the SA Military Health Service (SAMHS) were currently studying medicine in Cuba.

Tiny Cuba defeated big fat South Africa in Angolan Bush war 1990.

Tiny Cuba training South African army on homeland soil Soweto to maintain South African made vehicles 2014.

Tiny Cuba training South African air force pilots 2015.

Tiny Cuba becomes master over big fat South Africa for the past 25 years non-stop.

Tiny Cuba confirms that South African air force still has chronic pilots shortages from jets to helicopters, proves what we have been saying is correct up till now September 2015 and so shall it ever be.

Hey, look oooooo, defenceweb has come again ooooo !!!!!!

Shame of the century, see the Southies that laugh at other people for using PMC trainers

[size=13pt]Exclusive: Cuba now teaching flying and air traffic control to SA Air Force members[/size]

SOURCE : http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=40658:exclusive-cuba-now-teaching-flying-and-air-traffic-control-to-sa-air-force-members&catid=111:sa-defence&Itemid=242

https://www.cliparthut.com/clip-arts/594/laughing-clip-art-594049.jpg
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patches689:
stop posting outdated sources

His source is 2013.

You are the one posting outdated 2009 sources of an era when NAF had not even received any F-7 jet at that time.

jln115:
Listen retaaard that round disc houses the sonar !! The reason the Lynx in your photo doesn't have that nose housing is because at that time ASW helicopters were only fitted with sonobuoy/dipping sonars.

secondly you havent provided any sources yet!! I want a link!!

Lastly Modern ASW helicopters: (what do they all have in common?)

Different ASW helicopters have different hardware construction and Lynx has over ten different versions all over the world varying from country to country you fool !

Post you a link, yes I did, SIPRI org databases http://www.sipri.org/databases Says Nigerian lynx is AWS and that makes you a born fool.

Next, Super Lynx sonar is NOT in the nose, the sonar is a long oblong tube, and you cannot put that inside a radar you dummy, nobody puts long fat iron tubes inside a circular shaped radar, your dull transplanted zulu brain does not know what mathematically symmetrical shapes mean....fool !

See photo of what sonar looks like...they are placed in the middile of helicopters not their nose, it needs to be dragged along the sea for many kilometers, how do you think it`s inside the nose....mumu zulu head

patches689:
Citations posted by myself show that your platform has no sonar

Stop wasting our time

You posted no source that says Lynx MK-89 it has no sonar....you liar, fraudster !

patches689:
Post citation for effectiveness of NNS Centenary decoys

Post citation that your old version Exocet can beat our modern HP-J 14 decoys, it`s up to you to prove it`s effectiveness as a decoy since you are the one challenging it, show us proof that HP-J 14 is not effective.

patches689:
Aradu is not operational and refit has not been confirmed

Stop dragging this forum backwards, NNS Aradu refit is officially confirmed and posted here many times .

"The Chief of Naval Staff (CNS), Vice Admiral Usman Jibrin revealed this during the ceremonial sunset to signal the end of the 59th anniversary of the Navy.

He said that the decision was borne out of the desire to equip the Navy for local building of ships, noting that the firm which will be domiciled at the Naval Dockyard, will take on the rehabilitation of Nigeria’s flagship, NNS ARADU , six strides boats, and build some interceptor boats, to ensure the emplacement of adequate security within the nation’s waters."

http://shipsandports.com.ng/navy-partners-uae-firm-in-local-shipbuilding/

Stop asking for repeat of sources that have been posted already, stop messing up this forum you South Africans !!!!!!!
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patches689:
You said your navy has 400 vessels

Post a citation to prove that

My two sources have already counted hundreds, no single source will list 400 vessels on one page.

= 75 major vessels already confirmed by ship names NNS series of ships

= My source adds several new British boats

= Also adds dozens of Singaporean and Chinese gunboats, river boats, and landing crafts

= Then adds 30 new gunboats that arrived a few months ago brand new

The above already counts about 200 vessels conservatively.

The global security list does not include Hollands supply of 60 X-18 Combat stealth catamarans, 6 K-13 fast boats, that is another 66 boats making 266, then add this list where Australia alone supplied Nigerian navy 150 units of new gunboats :

CONFIRMED DELIVERIES OF OVER 200 RIVER GUNBOATS LANDING CRAFT TO THE NIGERIAN ARMED FORCES

PREAMBLE: This report focuses ONLY on the CONTRACT won by SINGAPORE’s SUNCRAFT GROUP for which the actual construction was outsourced to the AUSTRALIA’s STRATEGIC MARINE GROUP’s SHIPYARDS with shipyards in Australia, Vietnam and Mexico.

PROOF: WEBLINK TO BE VIEWED

http://www.strategicmarine.com/media/19 … ements.pdf

*PROJECT DATE: 2008-2009

YARD BUILT: VIETNAM
QUANTITY: 4 (FOUR) UNITS
DESCRIPTION: 20-METRE LANDING CRAFT
VESSEL NAME:
CLIENT: SUNCRAFT INTERNATIONAL
COUNTRY: NIGERIA

*PROJECT DATE: 2008-9
YARD BUILT: AUSTRALIA
QUANTITY: 15 (FIFTEEN) UNITS

DESCRIPTION: 16-METRE PATROL VESSELS
VESSEL NAME:
CLIENT: SUNCRAFT INTERNATIONAL
COUNTRY: NIGERIA
*PROJECT DATE: 2008-9
YARD BUILT: VIETNAM
QUANTITY: 40 (FORTY UNITS)

DESCRIPTION: 12-METRE PATROL VESSELS
VESSEL NAME:
CLIENT: SUNCRAFT INTERNATIONAL
COUNTRY: NIGERIA
*PROJECT DATE: 2008
YARD BUILT: AUSTRALIA
QUANTITY: 4 (FOUR) UNITS

DESCRIPTION: 17-METRE PATROL VESSELS
VESSEL NAME: MANTA
CLIENT: SUNCRAFT INTERNATIONAL
COUNTRY: NIGERIA

Note that with the delivery of THREE more MANTA boats to the Nigerian Navy in May 2011, the Nigerian Navy are now estimated to field about 15 units of Manta ASD Littoral Interceptor.

*PROJECT DATE: 2005-8
YARD BUILT: AUSTRALIA
QUANTITY: 150 (ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY)

DESCRIPTION: 10-METRE LANDING/PATROL CRAFT
VESSEL NAME: SCORPION MK.II
CLIENT: SUNCRAFT INTERNATIONAL
COUNTRY: NIGERIA




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How many vessels does the TINY South African navy have ?[/size]
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patches689:
Proof that nigeria has "dozens" of pilots who can land at sea

No proof = trolling

No source ever said Nigerian navy has shortage of pilots, or is there a source that says every navy in the world has such and such number of pilots

The ONLY AIR FORCE WITH REPORTED AND PUBLISHED pilots relevant to this forum is South African air force, Gripen jet pilot shortage and Lynx helicopter pilot shortage.

There is no report of Nigerian navy pilot shortage for landing at sea, the problem does not exist, so no report exists.

South Africa can only land one Lynx helicopter at sea for ever
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jln115:
Bla bla bla never once did I say YOU said the atr 42 was a asw platform, it was tweedle dee(Henry) and tweedle dum(iblawi) that said it was a asw platform.

And NO your Lynx clearly are not asw platforms!! This is a ASW Lynx:

You don't know what you are posting dude !

That your photo is Super Lynx ASW, the Nigerian version is an older model called Lynx Mk.89 ASW, different models different names.

You think those two big round discs outside the helicopter nose is a sonar? No, it's a radar and FLIR

For SAAF super lynx, the radar is outside, but for NN Lynx Mk.89 the radar is inside the nose cone hidden, and the sonar is inside the cabin hidden behind closed doors.

SIPRI says the Nigerian Lynx is Anti-Submarine Warfare and that settles it, your foolish ignorant and rettaaaarded opinion does not matter, a born fool will always be a born fool, white man with Zulu brain !


Source: SIPRI Arms Transfers Database


Supplier/ Year
recipient (R) Weapon Weapon of order/ of delivered/
or licenser (L) ordered designation description licence deliveries produced Comments


United Kingdom
R: Nigeria
3 Lynx ASW helicopter 1981 1985 3 $20 m deal; Lynx Mk-89 version


Italy
R: Nigeria
18 A244 324mm ASW torpedo (1980) 1982-1984 (18) A244S Torpedo version for Lynx ASW helicopters and probably for 1 MEKO-360 (Aradu) frigate


If I am the one arguing, your foolish Southie pas @Saengine will say I am spoiling this thread, now you are making a clearly foolish and deliberately false claim and all your Southies friends turn a blind eye to it as you mess up this forum with lies and false tales.


See the photo of Lynx anti-submarine helicopter below, does it look like the South African version you posted ? Mumu !
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