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mzilakazi:
You know nothing about the combat academy, Nigeria has no such facility. That is where army and air force do simulatory war exercises where Air force fire live rockets.

I have seen combat academy in American Mojave desert far better than what you have in South Africa.

No combat academy allows tanks to fire on tanks and artillery to fire on artillery or jets to fire on jets.

You know nothing about it, what they do is MILES ON MILES infantry training with laser/alarms/man-marker fake bullets/etc and the aim is to show individual soldiers the chances that they get hit and die in close-in hand to hand man to man combat.

Your SANDF is just using rifles to mark each other's uniforms to show who was hit, fools are shooting rifle at fools, cowards on cowards, your battle school infantry men still fear Sudan boys in Toyota.

SAAF jets and helicopters have been shown in photos dropping bombs on empty space, sand and stones, hitting nothing ! Why don't your aircraft simulate a real battle and drop ammunition on your army who can fire back with anti-aircraft weapons like Boko Haram fires on Nigerian jets and helicopters in real life combat?

Nigeria does real live combat with air force and army weapons killing real enemies, not pretending in a battle school where the trainees know that the enemy is fake and nobody will die from fake bullets, your combat academy products are the same men in Sudan that realized that Sudanese boys can kill with Ak-47, and the useless battle school training did not give SANDF troops the courage to fight, they agreed to surrender if Sudan boys fire rifles first....Southies train cowards who remain cowards after all the fake training like theater arts on drama stage
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jln115:
Feature: Lockheed Martin’s latest SAAF C-130J offer tied to Defence Review

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=40466:feature-lockheed-martins-latest-saaf-c-130j-offer-tied-to-defence-review&catid=32:military-art-a-science&Itemid=112

SANDF is broke, you have no money to buy any new aircraft
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DictatorZAR:
The only garbage here is the shiiit you just wrote.
First of all you were the fool here who denied the pic ever even existed now you turnaround acting like a DHQ spin doctor.

Tell me why don't you stick to your earlier stance like months ago by claiming the man is a boko haram member who dressed as a woman to evade All Mighty Nigerian Cowards

Fool, the whole world published that story and called the man a Boko Haram member and the world believed it, yet you as fool think I am responsible for what the newspapers publish all over the world...

http://www.newspunch.org/see-photo-of-arrested-boko-haram-fighters-disguised-as-woman/

Anyway, the man is only proved to be an INFORMANT-SPY.....show us his Nigerian army identity card to prove otherwise .

The only cowards we see are SANDF troops in Sudan who urinated in their p.ants when they saw Sudan skinny boys drive Toyota around their base going innocently on Ramadan patrol. South African troops decided to surrender without a fight ! Nation of cowards and chicken soldiers !

mzilakazi:
ALL COUNTRIES IN AFRICA CAN BE DOING MILITARY EXERCISES BUT THEY ALL DO NOT HAVE A STABLE COMBAT TRAINING ACADEMY.


SA ARMY COMBAT CENTER IS THE ONLY WAR INSTITUTION ON THE CONTINENT AND THERE ARE ONLY TEN OF SUCH INSTITUTION IN THE WORLD.


http://www.actc.army.mil.za/


I QUOTE: The SA Army Combat Training Centre is unique in the sense that it is one of ten similar institutions in the world that provide exclusive and permanent facilities for landward warfare training. Only two of these institutions are located in the Southern hemisphere, of which the SA Army Combat Training Centre is the largest, 158 000 hectares in comparison to other training facilities in the Southern hemisphere. Other similar institutions are situated in the Mojave Desert in the United States of America, the Negev Desert in Israel, as well as Canada, France, India, Australia and Pakistan.


SOUTH AFRICA IS VERY FORTUNATE INDEED.

Your South African battle schoo / combat training Academy is only for simulating infantry soldiers one on one rifle firing, tanks don't fire there, artillery don't fire there or you shell yourselves? Even your air force has no training missiles, so what's the big deal? Nothing

DictatorZAR:
Now he's an informant yet for the last few months you Augubugu denied that he was a soldier and said he was a boko captive.

How ironic coming from you. You the so called analyst who should've known yet you denied even he's Nigerian citizenry, now you come and try spin doctor things here. Hell no Augubugu the truth is out Nigerian Army is a bunch of cowards who only slaughter innocent villagers.

FACT.....!!!

Am I the one who published the earlier news report?

Saharareporters itself is guilty of first posting the man's photo as that of a Boko member, now they turn around there own story to change it, LOL....the journalist does not know what an informant and spy is. That man is a spy for Nigerian army, probably a civilian JTF member.

The rest of your comment is garbage.

patches689:
No mention of how big it was

Bigger than the whole South African military combined...

mzilakazi:
Americans and Egyptians

Nope, Egypt alone....and the numbers dwarfs anything South Africa has to offer

http://www.israeldefense.co.il/en/content/egypt-badr-2014-military-exercise

"Dr. Shaul Shay reviews the "Badr 2014" exercise, the largest Egyptian military maneuver since 1996, focused on a defensive strategy to counter hostile attacks, implement force mobilization procedures, confront emergency situations, make quick decisions, achieve air superiority and carry out air attacks through all the stages of the maneuver.

The exercise included units from the Mechanized Infantry, Armored Divisions, Artillery, and Rapid Deployment Forces.

The Commander In Chief and Minister of Defense and Military Production General Sedki Sobhi and Chief of Staff of the Armed Forces Lt. General Mahmoud Hegazy, attended on October 27,2014, a simulation of a Suez Canal crossing. The simulated crossing was executed by the Third Army. Military engineers connected the western and eastern banks of the canal via movable bridges, allowing vehicles and tanks to cross the Suez Canal. Army units used APCs and boats aided by air forces units.

In another phase of the exercise, Third Field Army's mechanical infantry and armored units carried out a landing operation to counter a stimulated attack by hostile air landing troops and regain control over an important mountainous strait in South Sinai.

The exercises included mine sweeping, combating piracy on the high seas, securing commercial shipping, intercepting suspicious vessels, tracking smugglers and, perhaps the most difficult, a simulated exercise that involved detecting and destroying enemy submarines. A helicopter took off from a frigate to locate the submarine with sonar devices. The enemy boat was then destroyed with torpedoes fired from both the helicopter and a destroyer. A surface to surface missile battle was staged to test the accuracy of missiles. Submarines also launched torpedoes and depth/ surface missiles at an enemy naval unit.

The drill involved more than 250 combat jet fighters and helicopters as they carried out more than 60 air sorties in cooperation with units of paratroopers, Egyptian commandos and the Central Military Region regiments."

South Africa will NEVER achieve the above in 100 years, your d_ick is very small
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patches689:
"Wikipedia"

Waiting for that citation

http://www.israeldefense.co.il/en/content/egypt-badr-2014-military-exercise

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mzilakazi:
SA is the only country in Africa that has a battle academy and that does stimulatory war exercises. No any country in Africa does that. Only Australia and SA in Southern hemisphere conduct such exercises,

not even Egypt conduct such exercises. The only thing that they do is just training, that's all.

Fool, you live in jail in South Africa, you think nothing big happens outside your pit hole ANC land. Mumu.


"The Egyptian Armed forces' different branches are engaged in annually military exercises locally in addition to exercises with different armies including:

Operation Bright Star, one of the largest joint training exercises in the world led by the American and the Egyptian Armed Force.
Sea of Friendship Maneuvers, held in the Mediterranean Sea between the navy forces of the Egypt and Turkey.
Tabuk Maneuvers, held in Saudi Arabia with the Saudi Armed Forces.
Morgan Maneuvers, held in Saudi Arabia between the navy forces of Egypt and Saudi Arabia.
Faisal Maneuvers, held in Saudi Arabia between the Air Forces of Egypt and Saudi Arabia.
Zaid Maneuvers, held in United Arab Emirates with the Union Defence Force.
Ein Jalut Maneuvers, held in Jordan, with the Jordanian Armed Forces.
Ra'd Maneuvers, held in the western command between different army branches.
Badr Maneuvers, held by the Third Army command between different army branches.
Nasr Maneuvers, held by the Second Army command between different army branches.
Sea's Victory Maneuvers, held by the navy command between different army branches."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_Armed_Forces#Military_Exercises
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patches689:
No

Your generals went to the front for a cheap public relations stunt

Prove it

patches689:
Citations needed

They hold no towns anymore, that needs no citation, but since you are born a fool...

"Boko Haram is in disarray and it is doubtful they have any central command," Mr Shehu told the BBC's Newsday programme." http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-33702738

Mumu, go chase your unstoppable Rhino poachers who have dominion over SANDF land !

patches689:
citations needed

You show me a citation to prove your first claim that Young Lion is biggest war game in Africa

patches689:
No you havent boko haram are still machinegunning your generals convoys

Dont be ridiculous

Nigerian generals were bold enough to lead their men into battle offensive mode, they are African Napoleons...leadership by example.

No SANDF general is bold enough to enter war zone....LOL...cowards....pot bellies

Boko no longer drives around in public, LOL, we actually launched that attack to catch their two trucks in the bush, they could not openly stand and fight us anymore....that's a victory SANDF has NEVER achieved in any war.

patches689:
Can you find a bigger one?

Nigeria has one in January, the NE forces had a major exercise before the final offensive, over 30,000 troops, tanks, artilley, armour, aircraft, etc

How many troops were in SANDF Young Eagle exercise and how many tanks, artilllery, aircraft involved?

mzilakazi:
Nigerian soldiers withdrew and went on to wear women dress like the one you have already seen. They were defeated as the man could describe on the video.


"DHQ is authorized to release military engagement"


Do you think DHQ can ever have the guts to release such an embarrassment on their reports?

The man is simply an INFORMANT....SPY giving report of enemy activities. His level of education makes me doubt his being a soldier, more of a civilian JTF informant used by Nigerian army behind enemy lines.

Sounds like an excellent job for NA. Those interpreting the video to mean defeat, are actually dumbos and dundees, the man never said he was with an army group that was defeated, nothing like that in the 10 minute video conversation.

Saharareporters itself is guilty of first posting the man's photo as that of a Boko member, now they turn around there own story to change it, LOL....the journalist does not know what an informant and spy is. That man is a spy for Nigerian army.

If South African army had such an informant/spy in Bangui, Seleka would not have caught your troops p.ants down
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mzilakazi:
SOME WHILE AGO I HAVE ALSO BEEN WATCHING THE NEWS THAT NIGERIAN SOLDIERS HAVE BEEN STAGING THE WAR AGAINST BOKO HARAM CIRCULATING THE SAME WEAPONS PURPORTEDLY CAPTURED FROM MILITANTS TO DIFFERENT PLACES. WHEREVER THEY ARRIVE THEY WOULD SCATTER THE SAME WEAPONS AROUND AND TAKE PICTURES AND STAGE IT TO LOOK AS IF THEY WERE CAPTURED FROM INSURGENTS CLAIMING FALSE VICTORY, ONLY LATER TO FIND THAT THE SAME PLACE IS ATTACKED BY INSURGENTS.

Prove it.

What is clear is that Nigerian military finally defeated Boko Haram in this war and have captured ALL Boko Haram caliphates and camps as well as destroyed all their armoured vehicles and artillery....what else is victory in a war? NATO in Afghanistan could not do what Nigeria did !

Boko is reduced to a tiny hit and run group with no central command any more. SANDF should go do that to Seleka so we can assess your army that avoids any sign of war and conflict, with your entire battalion of MRAPs, artillery and ammunition looted in broad daylight by local rebels in Burundi
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mzilakazi:
NIGERIAN MILITARY LIED ABOUT ONE OF THEIR OWN AND PORTRAYED HIM AS A MEMBER OF BOKO HARAM AS WELL AS WEAPONS THEY CLAIMED WERE REPORTEDLY CAPTURED FROM INSURGENTS.

THE TRUTH SHALL ALWAYS SET YOU FREE.


http://saharareporters.com/2015/08/26/exclusive-video-alleged-boko-haram-member-disguised-woman-was-nigerian-soldier

My phone is not playing the video, but meanwhile...

1. Only Nigerian army HQ can confirm who is or is not an enlisted Nigerian soldier

2. What is that captured man's full full name, rank, and service number authenticated?

3. It's against the law for a Nigerian soldier to grow beards. That mullah man captured is a boko haram original

4. False report goes into garbage bin so easily
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jln115:
1. M982 Excalibur

2. http://www.military-today.com/apc/badger.htm

The Finnish Patria AMV is one of the most protected APCs that are currently available. Also it offers great protection against landmines. front arc withstands hits from 30-mm armor-piercing rounds. Interior is fitted with spall liners. Two uparmored Polish Army vehicles were hit in Afghanistan by RPG-7 rockets, however armor was not penetrated and vehicles managed to return to base. Vehicle also has a top-class mine protection. It has integral protection in its belly, rather than using a V-hull, as with most mine-protected vehicles. It withstands blasts equivalent to up to 10 kg of TNT under any wheel or anywhere under the hull. Protection of the Badger is likely to be similar.

1. Excalibur shell ? European product, I thought you were advertising South African products, now you mix G-6 with a Swedish made shell, now you are promoting Sweden. Desperado.

2. Patria IFV ? Another European product, what happened to your made in South Africa 'best in town campaign?

Patria is amphibious and loaded with European stuff built to Finland's specifications, but Badger is NOT amphibious, and it's loaded with South African stuff, and different armour too.

They are not similar, so stop posting European made equipment to claim South African product capabilities that are very different, we are not tools here okay?

Desperado !!!!!

DictatorZAR:
the so called military analyst who comes here without doing research and acts like he knows something.

Both the BMP and Badger has 30mm front arc protection.

The BMP can only withstand 14,5mm on the sides and rear. The hull is made of aluminum alloy and not composite material like you claimed.

Now show me what Nigeria has or will have in the next 2years that is better then the Badger.

Nigeria actually got a better IFV before South Africa, we have been cruising around in modern BTR-3 since around year 2010 before we added BTR-4 in 2014 and that is one of the best IFV in the world today.

SANDF Badger is inferior to Russia's upgraded BMP-3M, so forget about the older BMP version, it has been upgraded fantastically, it will defeat all the weapons on Badger and use 100mm cannon to waste DENELs operated product.


"The BMP-3M is equipped with auxiliary armour shields to offer protection from 12.7mm armour piercing bullets. Add-on explosive reactive armour (ERA) kit is fitted to protect the vehicle from anti-tank hollow charge projectiles.

The vehicle is also fitted with Arena-E defensive aid suites to automatically detect and destruct guided and unguided anti-tank missiles and anti-tank grenades.

The Shtora-1 protection system against high-precision weapons installed on the vehicle provides protection from antitank guided missiles with laser illuminator, artillery armaments with laser range finder-based fire control system and anti-tank guided missiles using semi-automatic guidance system."

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/bmp-3m-infantry-fighting-vehicle-ifv/
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mzilakazi:
You are just only mentally disturbed. No machine gun rounds will ever pierce through a Badger, even with anti armour rounds. The only weapon which can defeat badger will be ATGMs or Anti armour rockets.

For the lies you posted above, citation needed
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mzilakazi:
The biggest military exercise on the Continent: Exercise young eagle.

Biggest in Africa? Citation needed

jln115:
1. The G6 can also fire guided shells
2. The Badger can withstand 30 mm rounds over the front arch, same as the bmp

1. Tell us the name of the guided shell fired by G-6

2. New BMP has composite amour NOT ordinary steel armour like the weak Badger you dummy, comparing a vehicle with composite armour with steel armour is like comparing 1970s Centurion tank with 1990s Challenger tank.

Meanwhile, show us proof that Badger can withstand 30mm rounds on frontal arc....I showed you source from Army Recognition Website that says it only withstands small arms like rifles and light machine guns
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patches689:
Who said range is the most important thing?

South Africans
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mzilakazi:
You must have been very desperate to force someone to prove that he is what he says he is. You should have instead proved that you are an Accountant who is employed as military researcher in America. Prove it.

It's you South Africans who are over-desperate to discover my private identity card, full name, city of residence, name of employer / work place.

Southie desperados
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patches689:
Guess who got 7 days unlimited roaming...

Time to destroy augubug from the beach

The police let you out again on bail, your lawyer is doing a good job as usual.

jln115:
1. You have know idea what the armour of the bager is like!!
2. I said we make some of the best IFVs in the world not just 1 single vehicle and yes what makes the BMP better than the Badger? just its Gun? P.S the Ratel has a 90mm gun, does that make it better than the new Badger?
3. The LEDS 150 is operational with several militaries around the world!
4. How far does the PLZ shoot a standard shell, and how far does a G6 shoot a standard shell. P.S a G6 can also fire guided ammunition!

I see you have changed story from Denel longest range 73 km, now you want to talk about shorter range standard shells, just because China beats South Africa with 100 km range long shot...

#Defeated.

Badger IFV armour is no secret, it's free info on internet, it has ordinary steel armour to withstand only small arms and splinters, a Boko Haram heavy machine gun will tear it to pieces.

http://www.armyrecognition.com/south_africa_african_army_wheeled_armoured_vehicle/badger_denel_8x8_armoured_infantry_fighting_vehicle_technical_data_sheet_specifications_pictures.html

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FighterPilot:
Hehehehe!!! So does that worry you that I got 6likes? Hopefully some of your brothers gave me some likes because they can see that you have fallen from grace. I am not an admin staff nor a non combatant member, sure those are reference of a civilian. I am not any of those. I am a uniformed member who underwent rigorous and toughest basic military training, proceeded to officers formative courses and headed for military academy for a qualification in one of the top 10 military academies in the world. I am trained as combatant. I thank you.

Prove it.

Me too, I am dating Obama's daughter....all because I say so

mzilakazi:
We are not accusing China here. All that we are asking is for them to pay for what they are doing. They should ask for a licence legally and pay for it. Surely, it will not be good if I can come and steal from you illegally.

China's annual investment in indigenous research and development can provide free food for the 50 million mouths in South Africa.

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ssaengine:
If I ever type one more letter to you after this, may God strike me dead. I said "If you are going to steal missile technology, steal it before you develop your own so that you have a base to start from". It is only in your own head where you heard me saying how hard it is to steal missile technology. There is no practical point in stealing missile technology, and adding it you your own systems which have completely different operating codes and algorithms. I have already asked you how China has been able to steal American military technology (google it), you ran away.

Everybody accuses China of copying them, envy, envy, envy. Did America not copy MRAP technology from Africa?

Allegations with no proof, America suspects and accuses everybody else, only them are holy in their own sight.

China has 100 km range artillery superior to the rest of the world, so who did they steal the technology from?

China built the world's first hypersonic aircraft carrier killer missile, whom did China steal that super technology from?

http://www.asian-defence.net/2012/11/China-Developed-CM-400AKG-Pakistans-Hypersonic-Carrier-Killer-Missile-For-JF-17.html

China is building stealth cruise missile, South Africa cannot build stealth missiles, so they stole that technology from you also?

China's annual investment in indigenous research and development can provide free food for the 50 million mouths in South Africa.

When people challenge your comments, you scream and yell like an immature 4 year old boy.

Go to blazes if you wish !
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jln115:
Badger has equal armour to the BMP...if not better and can also be armed with the mongoose self defence system! secondly the badger isnt our only IFV, we have the Rooikat as well which is armed with a 76mm Naval Gun!!!

The G6 can also fire guided ammunition if you didnt realize!!....And BTW the PZL can fire a base bleed shell only 29km, guess how far the G6 fires a Base bleed.

Badger has only steel armour NOT composite armour like the newest BMP-3. Ordinary heavy machine gun from Boko Haram will penetrate Badger armour.

Rooikat 76mm ? Now you want to combine two different South African vehicles to match one Russian vehicle....I thought your product is said to be among the best on earth.

Mongoose self defense is NOT operational, but BMP-3 self defense is already in service. Russia is ahead of you by far.


G-6 has NO guided ammunition today, Chinq is ahead of you, world artillery championship is China with 100 km range, deal with it, stop changing story to....."we too can improve" .....you are not among the best today, that is the fact, mumu
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ssaengine:
Keep embarrassing and exposing yourself. I couldn't give one single flying f*ck. You are a military researcher as you claim.
You would know how missile algorithms work. You would know that dimensions, centres of gravity, aerodynamic models, seeker capabilities etc are all linked in a complicated loop of algorithms. You cannot just take a flash drive, and transfer data from one missile to complete another. If you are going to steal missile technology, steal it before you develop your own so that you have a base to start from. You would know that.
The others on this thread can entertain you if they want. I'm personally done with your non.sense. Have better things to waste my time on. Chow

Cool, now that you have told us how hard it is to steal missile technology, please explain how China was able to steal it from Denel A-Darter.

#Trapped
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jln115:
1. G6 is the longest firing Artillery piece in the world, the fact that it can reach 73km without guided ammunition IS INSANE!!! No other artillery piece can fire unguided shells that distance, secondly the G6 is famed for its accuracy, the G6 is also capable of firing guided ammunition BTW ! P.S which round does the PLZ use to fire 100km?

2.Badger is faster has better range, better mine protection , has equal armour to the BMP and WE DONT NEED AMPHIBIOUS vehicles! Also The Badger doesn't come with just 1 turret, there are many variants we can choose from other than the 30mm canon!

There is no Badger variant with bigger than 30mm gun. When we prove your weaknesses, you Southies say can go add a new thing to your product, who told you Russia too cannot add better things to it's own product? Only you can adjust things? Mumu.

You don't need amphibious vehicle because SANDF is meant for homeland defense only and zero force projection overseas. Cool !

Russian BMP-3 new variant will kill the SANDF Badger, BMP has anti-missile self defense, new composite impregnable armour and a 100 mm gun, just one shot and Badger IFV will scatter into pieces.

China is the world champion in artillery range....100 km


http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htart/20131128.aspx
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ssaengine:
Again. Just stop turning this thread into a joke. You are killing it. Can you explain this?

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/images/stories/AIR/A-Darter%20P3A%201st%20Test%20Manouevre2.jpg

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1152&catid=7:Industry&Itemid=116

"The flight tests were a successful first in the series to prove the specifications and simulation models, which bodes well for the missile`s eventual integration on the South African Air Force`s Gripen fighter jets, the Brazilian Air Force`s F5M aircraft, as well as the latter`s possible FX programme for a future frontline fighter," said Denel Dynamics CEO Jan Wessels.

The tests evaluated the missile`s manoeuvrability and high G-force characteristics as well as the ability of the high off-boresight seeker (+/-90 degrees off-boresight) head to track targets.

Designed as an agile missile (hence the designation "A" in the name), the A-Darter`s key technologies had been established by 2006. Full-scale development has been on going since 2007.


Article written - February 2009
SAAF orders Iris-T missile - May 2008
SAAF receives first Iris-T - Late 2009

So Iris-T was reverse engineered how exactly? Stop being a dam clown and grow up.

Hey dude, that was prototype A-Darter still under development 2009, the finished final product 2014 is said to have been improved according to your South African commentators here, so since you got Iris-T from Germany 5 years before Denel finished developing A-Darter, then we can suspect you of copy cat reverse engineering of German technology, same way it is sweet in your mouth to say you suspect China copied you.....or are you holy saints in South Africa while the rest of the world is dirty sinners? Your country is dirty enough to bribe FIFA and get 2010 world cup hosting