₦airaland Forum

iblawi:
Sahara desert I know is very close to Northern Nigeria.

Thanks for your map, the South African fraudsters posted a map that has no city names yet claim the Sahara desert reaches Dafur Sudan, the thing actually ends at the capital city of Sudan called Khartoum as seen clearly by your map.

So South Africans need to show us proof that their SANDF army had the courage to deploy a long standing force inside Sudanese capital where the power of Omar El Basir 's military might is based !
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patches689:
I never agreed to any such thing

Filthy damned liar

Your lynx are export versions of the HAS.3 which only have GEC Marconi Seaspray Radar radar. No sonar bouys

Prove it.


What is their Lynx Mk.89 designation on SIPRI ? ASW or not?

Andrewza has learnt his bitter lesson here.

patches689:
No evidence = troll

You said so yourself, so you admit you are trolling?

- list which weapons are superior and how
- list ALL 5th gen WVR missiles and how they are superior

Thanks

The first claim was by a South African, so you can help him by listing al those South African weapons he mentioned one by one and list the American, European and Chinese comparison beside them, giving us details of how the South African products belong to the class of world bests.

Burden of proof is on you for making the first claim, prove it
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mzilakazi:
A-DARTER IS GREAT AND IS EVEN MORE ADVANCED THAN ANY MISSILE NIGERIA HAS EVER USED.

-A DARTER CAN BE FIRED AT A TARGET AT ANY DIRECTION EVEN WHEN THE TARGET IS AT THE BACK.

-A DARTER CAN BE USED AS DEFENSIVE MISSILE AGAINST BVR MISSILES AND SRAAMS.

-A DARTER HIT THE TARGET AT 100% PRECISION

-A DARTER CAN NEVER BE JAMMED.

A-Datar will not be in service until 2016.

A-Darter will fail to hit target beyond 19 km.

A-Darter can turn any direction but it will always be short legged distance 19 km.

A-Darter can only work when the user himself is inside the no escape kill zone of his enemy that is also firing in retaliation.

Show us proof that A-Darter cannot be jammed.

Show us proof that A-Darter has been tested against a supersonic speed target.

Show us proof that A-Darter has been tested to stop an incoming missile as anti-missile missile
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jln115:
NO!! you have civilian grade lynx helicopters, not ASW.

I am not going to repeat the whole episode of Nigerian navy lynx ASW heliopcters here again, I have posted it over ten times in one year. Andrewza, Patches, Saengine have all agreed thsy are military grade ASW helicopters, only you wants to be a lone ranger fool. Check it on SIPRI or google Lynx Mk.89 Nigerian navy. I don't get paid for time spent on nairaland.

White boy with Zulu brain.

patches689:
Yes,

I ask you to post it again

So that I can use YOUR OWN SOURCE show this forum AGAIN how you are telling lies.

That makes YOU the troll

Since you have agreed that I have posted the source here already, then the burden of proof is on you, so copy paste my source and use it to prove me wrong.

Fraudster for life
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jln115:
No!! The Marlin is a guided beyond visual range missile, do you understand what that means?

Sorry, Marlin guided missile does NOT exist according to the manufacturer who has it only on papar. Möröön
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patches689:
Post the source again

You admit that you deliberately ask people to repeat again, sources that have already been posted before....makes you a troll
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patches689:
Pretty hard to take pictures of things that are still being manufactured

....but you always demand Nigerians show you photos of our own stuff even when you know it's hard to get the photos. Fool !
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patches689:
1. Stop basing your argument on technicalities. the lynx was bought for the sole purpose of being used on the valour class. Maybe the incompetant nigerian armed forces are unable to cooperate with one another... But the SANDF has no problems

2. No you didnt, and none of them are operational

The simple, unavoidable facts, are this:

South Africa has 4 operational Maritime helicoperts
Nigeria has ZERO

South Africa has 4 operational ASW helicopters
Nigeria has ZERO

End of story

Which enemy submarine has your anti-submarine helicopter fought war against since you bought them about 5 years ago? Nigeria put our own antisubmarine helicopters in reserve since no war needs them now.

Nigerian navy currently owns and flies 8 maritime Augusta E-Power Naval search and rescue helicopters regularly, we don't depend on any air force, we have a complete navy air arm fully operational.

South African navy does not own any helicopter talk less of training one pilot. We NN have more maritime helicopters than you SAN, we double your number.

Now end of story in our favor.

jln115:
Holy fvck dude!! It also stretches to the Northern part of Darfur!! Do you even know were Darfur is?

Rest of your post is just your daily dose of B.S

Show us map of Sahara desert covering Dafur.

DictatorZAR:
Yes its about
1-good training/experience
2-high end weapons
3-good intelligence
4-good support systems
5-the will to fight

All these measures can make 100 man take on boko haram with relative efficacy. Modern warfare is nolonger just about numbers alone.

The whole combination of :

1. South African army 21 Battalion
2. South African special forces
3. South African air force

Have all combined and failed to defeat ordinary Rhino poachers inside your own Kruger Park homeland bush including the bush land legally owned directly by South African army as army property......your SANDF property/estate too is being raided by mere Rhino poachers armed with cheap rifles right under your flat noses.....why don't you use 100 Soith African troops or mercenaries to defeat the small enemy that is disgracing your famous bush war tactics inside your own homeland bush ?

Doctor, try cure your own sickness first
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mzilakazi:
SA has the most advanced agricultural industry in Africa. Nigeria is only revolutionising their agriculture now.

The white South Africans own the agric technology and the farms, you blacks are the slave labourers working under your everlasting white masters
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patches689:
Now, you said a lack of amphibious vehicles makes the SANDF obsolete. State how and why, as well as list an occasion where amphibious vehicals crossing a river have played a decisive role in combat.

Show me a war that was won by submarines, to justify the reason why countries own subs.

First tanks to land on D-Day at some critical fronts were early generation amphibious light tanks. Cobra APC was key to Nigerian mobility against river militancy.

Cobra over 200, VBL about 100, MTLB about 100, plus BTR-3, BTR-70, BTR-60, BTR-80, BTR-4, Sagaie, BVP-1, only a born möröön like Patrick will be asking how Nigerian army has over 500 amphibious armoures vehicles.

We can cross lake Chad in record speed time and invade them or hot pursue an enemy without waiting for mobile bridge which cannot eve cover a whole lake or wide river.

South African army is a dry land only army, far from being a modern mobile fighting force
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jln115:
Not every thing. But our ATMGs, WVR AAMs, Guided Bombs, SAMs, HMDs ,EW systems, IFVs , MRAPs,105mm Howitzers ,155m Howitzers ,155mm Self-Propelled Howitzers, AHs , HMIs , periscopes , MGLs, Turrets , Drones(Class dependent), 127mm MLRSs, to name a few are some of the best systems in their class in the world.

South African weapons are not among the best in their class worldwide . Too many weapons best yours from America, Russia, China, Britain, Germany, France, Italy, Sweden, and even Israel.

Only you fools think your DENEL A-Darter missile is great with a 19 km short legged range. Other countries have 5th generation missiles with superior range.

How many countries are rushing to buy your A-Darter? Even the Pakistanis you laugh at have rejected it for their JF-17 jet fighter.

Your defense industry only shines in Africa.

DictatorZAR:
The analyst once again conveniently forgot that each year a F-7 crashes in nigeria
http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-25316/

Your source says 2012, so show is source of F-7 crash in 2013, 2014, 2015.

Creative old man liar

mzilakazi:
How about MRAPS from South Africa?

Inferior to our Chinese made Big Foot MRAP

jln115:
It reaches the northern part of Darfur as well, where we were based!

Sahara desert ends at Khartoum capital of Sudan you ïïdiot.

SANDF will never deloy inside Sudan's capital, ordinary Toyota boys will use AK-47 to force your cowardly army stripp down to their boxers with their jalo jalo hanging out for display on you too, girls will be watching it as it goes viral on facebook

jln115:
Its a BVR missile, not a dumb rocket mate!

Then the rockets Nigeria is testfiring at EPE project center are missiles too
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mzilakazi:
Nigeria must not blame their woes unto others but themselves. Their poor handling of BH insurgency and incompetent military is a factor.


OH, sorry Nigeria has no PGMS.

Nigeria has AR-1 PGM missiles, South Africa only has PGM bombs that we can easily shøøt down and waste
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jln115:
I know they belong to SAAF retaard!! The fact remains they fulfil the EXACT same job that a navy air arm does!!

Jap you posted photos of normal civilian Lynx helicopters, not anything that even remotely resembles an ASW platform!!

You cannot have a navy air arm that belongs to the air force, the registration nu ver is air force and the pilots are are force, they only help your incomplete navy you morööön !

Go bask to SIPRI arms database, and NATO sources, Nigerian navy Lynx have their radars hidden inside nose cone and ASW sonar hidden inside cabin, I posted the 2D image here with labellings to educate you 50 million dullard spërm eggs fertilized in South Africa by breeding error, you guys should have cross-bred your nation with Zimbabweans
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mzilakazi:
I WILL SMILE IF EVER I CAN FIGHT MILITARY WEARING THIS CAMO AT ANY TERRAIN. I WILL BE REST ASSURED THAT VICTORY IS CERTAIN.


JUST LOOK AT THESE SANTA CLAUS

That's Nigerian navy sea camp off ship, blue-green-grey, prefer bland for sea in an open boat or creeks/swamps with vegetaion.

No navy in the world can use one camp, you need standard white, white over black, blue over black, black for night naval commandos, and a camo for shores with vegetation.

Having one single camo for an army navy air force, is a stupid possibility for a poorly dressed military force that will be operating in very contrastingly different natural terrain.

There is a smart reason why God created smart chamellion to change and blend it's coloure to hide with different environments on nature
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patches689:
Quality > Quantity

Nigeria has both

jln115:
And?

Dumb rockets are no big deal. So stop boasting

jln115:
The pics were taken while the SANDF were deployed in Darfur!

Sahara desert ends around the capital of Sudan Khartoum, it does not reach Dafur. Did SANDF enter Sudan's capital city? Your army will perish there or surrender when they see Sudanese Toyota boys

jln115:
That was the Sahara desert mor0n!!

Prove it....Liar !

Sahara desert has never seen any SANDF delpoyment.

mzilakazi:
IN BURUNDI.

So what? It's SANDF

jln115:
Then why don't they?

Sudan builds guided missiles

mzilakazi:
PIRATES ATTACK NIGERIAN MILITARY BASE AND KILL SOLDIERS AND LOOT WEAPONS. THE WEAKEST NIGERIAN MILITARY IS AT IT AGAIN.



http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=40228:suspected-pirates-attack-military-base-in-nigerias-southern-delta-kill-five-&catid=108:maritime-security&Itemid=233



http://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/idUKL5N10J0AI20150808?irpc=932

South African army elite troops had their entire armoury looted by local rebels in Burundi, they carried away your MRAPs, mortar artillery, rifles, shells, heavy machine guns, grenade launchers....LOL....your army was being stripped of heavy weapons and you could do nothing

Sources have confirmed that millions of rands worth of vehicles, guns, ammunition and bombs, and supplies worth over R27-million have vanished from the South African army base in Burundi over the last four years.

The missing vehicles are believed to include several Casspirs; a Mazda ambulance; Isuzu bakkies; one firefighting truck; Landrover Defenders; trucks; a water tanker; a Yamaha motorcycle; forklift trucks; Toyota Condor vans; several cars; a tractor; and a Mercedes-Benz Sprinter.

The Star has also established that among the weapons missing are 40 mortar bombs; 54 R-4 rifles; four R-5 rifles; a sniper rifle; two 12-gauge shotguns; eight machineguns; eight pistols; and 27 grenade launchers.

A 15 KVA generator is also understood to be missing.

While army authorities have previously blamed poor accounting practices for the losses, an investigation by The Star has found that on one occasion at least 50 missing SANDF mortar bombs - out of 80 bombs stolen using an army-owned Land-Rover - were found in a FNL Phalipe-Hutu rebel group camp in Kiriri, Burundi.

The FNL has been blamed for a series of mortar attacks on the Burundian capital, Bujumbura, in which at least 300 people are known to have died.

The Star has also learnt that a case of ammunition - part of a total 1.5 million SANDF-owned rounds that went missing in Burundi - was found in the possession of Burundian government forces in 2004.

As yet, the SANDF has failed to reveal how many millions of rands worth of weapons, vehicles and supplies it has lost to theft or mismanagement. Disturbingly, it seems the SANDF has no idea how many weapons are in its possession.

Now, following a scathing Auditor-General's report into the Department of Defence's "inadequate" and "deficient" accounting practices, the Democratic Alliance was due to ask the Defence Ministry in parliament today to address claims that about 70 army vehicles, over 110 weapons and items of equipment, and millions of rands worth of supplies have disappeared from the South African base in Burundi.

http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/burundi-bungle-leaves-sandf-chiefs-red-faced-1.300893

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jln115:
1. We don't need a navy air arm, we have 22 sqd that fulfil the same role. You say your AW109s are Navy version? Well in that case, our Oryx are also Navy versions as they constantly conduct exercises with our navy ( Like today, Pic1) . Why don't you post a photo of your ASW Lynx, BTW heres how a proper ASW Lynx looks like (Pic2) .

Your Oryx belong to your air force, the fact remains that your navy has NO SINGLE AIR CRAFT and NO AIR ARM and NO PILOTS

I won't repeat photo of Nigerian Lynx ASW helicopter again, been posted too many times, i am beginning a new attitude of not responding to request to repeat old stuff all over this forum, unless it makes sense.

mzilakazi:
F7 JET CRASHES TWO YEARS AGO.


https://beegeagle./2012/05/02/nigerian-air-force-f-7ni-airguard-crashes/

Your source is 2012.....three years ago....mumu

patches689:
lol no

Nope, show me SANDF brown uniform in a yellow desert like Sahara or Sahel