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Toluwanise247:
God bless the president elect
God bless Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu
God bless our dear nation Nigeria
God bless Nigerians
God bless APC supporters
God bless everyone that voted APC
God bless me
God bless you
God bless nairaland users

The blessings of God starts from our heart to manifest in our Lives..

So by saying God bless asiwaju Tinubu this means that God will first of all change his wicked and treacherous heart into a pure and peaceful one..
Such that he can repent and return the stolen mandate to the rightful owner who happens to be His Excellency Peter Gregory Obi

richeeyo:
You a fool
How can one local government be 215
Abi you no get brain ni

You are the fool here...
Read to understand bro

Oga leave the area if your life’s at stake

fornication 😹

“ after 3 months we will increase your Salary”

Las las
This person no get womb..
Na cruise

This one don cash out...

Oya, remember me in your paradise make I fit chop bellyful today bros..

FCMB
8743950010

I be First to ask o,
Thanks man

with pen there is a zero room for mistakes...

and too much of converting mistake to something good spoils the initial mental idea of the art.

so pen is better..

but, you're very good..
just add more creativity to ur work and create more awareness on social media, mostly fb and ig

prophetic69:
the Keke rider (ABOKI) that took them identified the bag...and reported the case to the police.

good lead.

my question is how they had a lead in the investigation to make an arrest.. no cctv no biometric/fingerprint I.d systems.. no eye witness but they made an arrest. make them sha no carry wrong person abeg..

360degreess:
.. When I read the comments of some people here saying the guy is lying,i just laugh.But I am telling you the plain truth, from the experiences of many people that I know the OP has a spiritual wife (succubus)..And if the OP doubt me,I promise you he will agree with me in the nearest future..Mark and save my comment including this particular date.

are you a prophet or it is from experience. .
and who gave them the succubus name

so it all began here....
even Peter Obi became Obedient to the retweet

A man will hijack ur bread factory, and will compensate you with just a loaf..
and you're here praising him for robbing you..
you lot are just gullible. when you know your rightful allocations, you will curse Tinubu and his likes.
Obedient is Better than foolishness. stay woke

I can only pay 7500 if it is for all the bread on the counter..

okay..
But pls take this correction..
south south is never and will never be igbo or biafran..

wike is not wise sha, he is always burning bridges after crossing.. he doesn't know he might need to cross back.

MAVICK2000:
baba d day where devil go visit ur case that time u go ask God y him give u private part

lol
..e be like something Don do u before oga..

Itzurboi:
You never sabi be that.. i will send you a pdf to read...

boss send me the pdf too..
thanks

Maynmann:
Are you saying there’s no “Yahweh”?
Because god is a title not a person!

if it is Yahweh you call him.. is he or is he not in existence?

justlove91:
I think you're a clairvoyant and those beings you saw are not gods but people that once lived in this world but are now a citizen of light sphere in the spirit world. You can message me if you want to know more about this.

so beside that...
are you saying there is no God?

Reality3080:
I really don’t care about other things but on d issues of sending your gf to school u go chop breakfast last last

girlfriend wey Don knack half the guys in her faculty..

as soon as them call off strike, she go knack the remaining half. .

my gender too mVmV

Op, download the rational male and read so u can become a sensible redpiller..

"if you love a woman, you can't understand what is really in her..
and if you understand what is really in her then you can't love her,"
by woman, I mean all women in general, even your mother, that's why women hate women, they know the demon in them.

yomi007k:


I think it is time to change girlfriend.

master, give me knowledge pls...

tiri Gbosa for you, oh thou wise one

Wilgrea7:
Thank you very much for this question. Really. This is something I've been wanting to talk about for a while. By supernatural I would assume you're talking about something that can't be explained by our current knowledge of the physical universe.

I want to use the example of the burning bush. Let's say I wake up and all of a sudden, my chair is on fire. Although the fire doesn't consume it. And this said fire is talking to me (I swapped out chair for the bush in the story of Moses)

So let me ask a follow-up question. Why do i have to believe a supernatural being which appears before me and performs these "miracles" is telling the truth. Objectively speaking, is there any thing that prevents something which can perform extraordinary feats from lying?

A supernatural being as you've put it, appearing before me and claiming to be "God" is only trying to "defeat a strawman" which is basically disproving a fake argument. What rule is there that says a supernatural event or encounter is needed to serve as proof of a "God"?

If i wanted to prove to you that I built a rocket from scratch, and then proceeded to do a fancy dance, and throw a piece of dynamite on the ground as proof, does that mean I really built a rocket?

Let me use a much more practical example. We are Nigerians. We know what they call jazz or voodoo. If someone performed used voodoo to appear before you, and turned your dog into a chicken, and then said to you "I am your creator.. I created the entire universe".. would you believe the person? I don't think so.

Supernatural experiences are proofs of supernatural experiences. Nothing more. Proof of a supreme independent, and creator God of the universe is completely different from some supernatural experience occurring.



Of course that would serve as proof... But once again the two analogies are not related. Staying in a cave is entirely different from creating a universe. Or creating anything at all.

Living in a cave is not the same degree of action as creating something. People have gone and seen the man actively living in the cave. No one has gone and seen any sort of deity actively creating the universe.

Let me flip your analogy around for you. Imagine the man goes around telling people he lived (past tense) in a cave. Would you just accept his story at face value, or would you ask for proof?

Now imagine this man started dancing funny and called it "cave dance"... does that in any way validate his claim?

hahahaha
lol, very interesting I just had to laugh first..
well, if u observe I have been trying to engage in the thread, but it isnt easy becoz my phone got lost and I am using a button phone so it is not easy to keep us as I would really want engage u more in the topic with lengthy analysis but with this phone I can't.
it was a good argument by the way.

Wilgrea7:
I think these are very important points you've made here. There are several things I would like to address.

First of all, what do you mean by God? If someone has an experience that seems out of the ordinary, how exactly does it prove that a certain "God" exists? A supernatural experience only shows that certain things which cannot be currently explained, have actually occurred.

Let's say for example, I'm in my house, and I suddenly see 5 different people appear and disappear into thin air before my eyes. How exactly does this prove the existence of a "God" .. The experience simply shows that something which seems to defy my current understanding of reality, has happened.

Does this mean you take anything which defies your current concept of reality as a proof of a God?

oga, don't get it twisted, remember your thread or the initial question you ask;
"can we question our belief"?

now before you begin to question a belief t is because you are in doubt.
you may question ur religious leaders or historians to prove that there is a being out there as this God of your religion.
now,
if some supernatural beings appear to you and tell you that He is God and he demonstrates his superiority just like in the case of Moses, Samuel, Abraham for example,
is this not the best answer to Ur questions..
what again do u need.
that is the God you were seeking..

it is like few people giving testimonies that a certain man lives in a cave.
but majority haven't seen this man before..
then you beginto ask thes witnesses and historians about the cave man, they give you answers but at some point you find fault in their testimonies..

before now, you have visited the area but you couldnt find the cave man.
what if one day as you visited the cave again and man appears to you, he doesnt look like the the regular town men, he matches the descriptions of the cave man..
and he tells you that he lives there...
is that not proof enough ?..
you have seen a strange being that appeared to you saying he lives in d cave, your are witness, that is ur proof..
it questions are answered..
end of questions, you should be satisfied.

now, by spiritual approach, I mean a supernatural encounter with the suppose God and this alone is a superior proof.
end of discussion.
what you do is go out and give Ur account.

Wilgrea7:
what makes a supernatural reference an source of absolute truth in this situation? If someone turns to the specific religion/belief system they're having doubts in for objective proof, isn't that biased? And how exactly is that objective?



What exactly is a "spiritual" angle, and how does it differ from the religious angle? Also, approaching a "God" from a "spiritual" or "religious" angle already assumes that you have an idea on who or what this god should be. On what basis did you arrive at those ideas, and how are you sure they are objectively true?

by spiritual reference and spiritual angle...
you should understand that I mean you must have seen this God or hear from him and then communicate to him..
and if you see,hear supernatural events that is out of the ordinary should you not believe that there must be God or a supernatural being ?...

in summary we should stop directing our questions of God's existence to historians or religious schoolars but rather we should seek those that claim to have encounter God and ask them our questions or ask God thru them..

and secondly, an encounter with a supernatural being or events is the beginning of proofs that there is God.
because seeing is believing

Maynmann:
Revelation an apocrypha book that was almost left out of the CANON?
It was allegedly said to be John the Patmos, hope you know the author of the book?

Maybe you were in a trance.
God is a title not a person. You are sounding like a monotheistic, You are telling on yourself gradually.

whatever God is, I don't know
and I wasn't on trance. it wasn't like the book of revelation. it was as real you holding your phone consciously to read these texts.

well, whatever.

but whatsoever is beyond scientific explanations is supernatural and God is supernatural..

what would you say about scenarios where I dream things, I write them down or tell it to people and later it Happens in exact manner which I dreamt it or sometimes these scenarios have already happened to people but I didn't have the slightest idea about it, but if I dream and tell them, they confirm that exact thing has or is happening to them.

I further researched on these ability as it has happen countless times, infact I dream every time, these days I don't even sleep but I am dreaming, dreams that matches real life scenario..
from my research I arrived at two alternatives..
some people call it clairvoyance while other calls it trance or visions, but I am not a prophet..
hence such scenarios have proven to me that there is a supernatural side in existence and if there is, then there must be God

Maynmann:
And I bet that personal encounter was with one of the Abramaic gods.

I dont know as They didnt tell me their origin..
or maybe I was to afraid to ask..

mind you, when I say personal encounter I mean a physical witnessing of three beings standing before me, in my room with a shape of man but no a man's body rather a nature of light like a white florescent light..

not a vision or dream but they came to me while I was in a very conscious state..

although I was too afraid and puzzled to ask questions then, because I was younger back then.
so I pretended to be a furniture covering my face while Shivering but they didn't seem to buy the idea.

my greatest wish is that they come to me again let us talk man to man or man to spirit.

pls these beings were not ghosts..

although after many years apart, I ater read the Christian book of revelation where Christ appeared to John, and it reminded me of my encounter because John was so afraid that he fell down as though he was dead.

although the three beings I saw dis t exactly match John's description but they were just like man but with a florescent light in nature not man's body. .

so I can't tell whether it was abrahamic God or not but I Believe they maybe many gods but one Almighty God irrespective of religion. .

I have had several other encounters that is beyond scientific explanations hence my believe in God.

Wilgrea7:
I think I get it now. So basically, your understanding is, if someone is questioning their belief, it's best to get the answers from someone who knows more about said belief.

So for example, should a christian who questions the origin of the bible go to a historian as opposed to a pastor

I'm not religious so I can't relate properly, but I Believe the bible and other religious manuals have their traces in history, but when it gets to a juncture where there is doubt then one should lean unto his/her supernatural reference for guidance..
that is why it is better to approach God from a spiritual angle than a religious angle.
I would have said that there is no God and religion is just a tool to enbondage the gullible, but my personal encounter with God as a spirit has subdued all rational or logical / religious standard of belief

lemme guess,
the guy no give ur cut after all the stress abi.
no mind am

maybe the groom wanted his favourite meal on that special day.. on my wedding day.. wifey must feed me with breast because that's my fav.

Wilgrea7:
Thanks for the response. If I may ask, what do you mean by "an inclined" source. Do you mean an objective source of knowledge, or a source of knowledge already inclined towards a presupposed answer?

well, I meant, a source that is very well knowledgeable in his belief.
not trying to force everything to resonate with his beliefs, but recognising the objectives of his beliefs..

for e.g let say in the Christianity the objectives is salvation of souls but a Christian would be praying to his God for mansion and money, where as his God is objectively interested in his spiritual growth and salvation.

a certain man of God by name Abel damina was asked...
"why is it that Christians would fast and pray for wealth and success materially yet they aren't answered meanwhile the world richest men are unbelievers..?"

well, the man of God answered him saying
" just as God created the system of reproduction, so that when an healthy man and woman mate, they will reproduce irrespective of whether they are believers or not.
likewise in material matters.
if you want money, you work for it and not pray unnecessarily.
but unknowledgeable source would have tried to defend God by saying things like, "God knows best, he maketh everything beautiful in it time, wait on God, seek he first the kingdom of God then money will come".... and other unnecessary scriptures