Congrats on your visa issuance. If there was a definite decision on seat availability in August, then it would be best to inform IRCC now. But since there is a small chance you could still get a seat this fall then no worries on that. I will suggest you wait until it is absolutely clear in about two months from now, before you inform IRCC.

If I understand correctly, the same school already issued you a new LOA automatically for Winter 2022, then you are even luckier than most people who lose class seats. In several such cases, students have had to re-apply for admission in same school or elsewhere and woud often be unsure of an admission in same or similar course.

Ysakaws1:
After getting my visa was when I just knew that there is no longer an available seat for my program at UWinnipeg. I am supposed to resume by August, but now I have been given a new LOA for January. The school however promised to mail me in case there later becomes an available seat for August.

My question is ‘am I supposed to inform IRCC that I am no longer resuming by August due to unavailability of seat?’ If yes, can I wait till like July ending before informing them, since the school already promised to enroll me should a seat becomes available?

NB: My stamped passport is already with me.

If you have good grades (at least 2.1 or more) in your degress (particularly, the most recent qualification) and you can put together a great SOP/research proposal, including some evidence of research publication (co-author of articles and/or book chapters), just go for a PHD. You have a good chance of sucess in Canada, with such a profile.

YakubuLagos:
Good day everyone.

My discipline is as follows:

1) Diploma in Computer Engineering

2) B.Eng in Computer Engineering

3) M.sc in Information Technology

4) M.Sc in Electrical Electronics Engineering

I'm 37 years old with a family of two and I want to apply for Canada or USA for a doctorate degree.

Do you think I stand any chance based on my age?

Is it better off I go the Canadian immigration route?

Waiting for your reply.

Thanks in advance.

I replied your email about my expereince and how I navigated the same problem.

akinajibola:
Hi @akannitommy, please did you need a letter of acceptance for your children's study permit ?
I am also about to process my husband's SOWP and daughter's study visa. I am confused about the letter school letter of acceptance for minors over here in Canada.

Thanks

g

Hello,

The rule of thumb for your type of situation is patience and strategy. Patience, taking the best action that will favour the whole family in the long run. There is no rush in this Canada journey. Strategy, by planning months and possibly a year or more ahead.

Personally, what I did is to apply for study visa alone and use family (wife and 3 kids) as strong home ties in addition to other normal ties. Then when I arrived Canada and completed one semester, I submitted application for family 11-days ago. My wife SOWP, my older kids (12yrs and 7yrs) study visa and my youngest child (less than 2 years) a visitor visa. I did upfront medical and submitted application on 15th May 2021. The medicals were updated to passed on 19th May 2021 for all - my youngest child didn't require medical exams due to age and visa type. My spouse completed biometric yesterday and the waiting game continues. I hope to also continue learning on here from people who have had similar experiences.

There are no guarantees but with a good strategy you have a better chance. There are students (even in Nigeria) who applied with their family and got approved but the chances are low. You can ask on the study permit thread for direct experiences.

teeboi77:
Good day Great Minds,
please I will like to know if my wife can apply for student permit together with our 2 kids(4 and 2 year) and get approved and there after i can apply for SOWP.The plan is for us all to travel at the same time...Kind response and advise will be appreciated.

regards,

Thanks @jydorchem

jydorchem:


For question 2, put NA.

Hi,

Good to be back. I think this is my first time of posting on the SOWP thread. I was on student visa thread up till early in the year before school stuff got hectic.

Got study visa approved in Nov 2020 and arrived Montreal in Dec 2020 for the winter term. I am a PhD student and I just wrapped up first semester. I now have time to put together family applications - SOWP for wifey, study visa for 2 kids (7 and 12) and visit visa for 1 toddler (19-months old). I already received CAQ for the 2 kids applying for study visa. So if anyone has questions about that Quebec-specific experience, I can share my personal insights on here. Please post any such question here and tag me. I will be online throughout the summer as schedule lightens up a bit.

Q1: I have a couple of quick questions as I move forward. The list of required documents generated on the online application shows two of my kids need to upload "letter of acceptance" while both the province and CIC websites states that they are excempted from showing same document. During application for their CAQ, I used my own LOA and CAQ for that purpose. If I wanted to, I can't even get the closest thing to a LOA for them until they arrive here according to the school board website. For those who have scaled this stage on the visa application, what do I upload here?

Q2: While filling the main application, there is a question in the imm1295e pdf form - (see attached) - Question 3 about address is required but confusing. Any ideas what to put here? Remember this is Spousal Open Work Permit Application, so there is no employer yet.

Thanks.

Hi Oga Frank,

Thanks for your prompt response as usual. I was actually asking in respect of the kid's open study permit in Quebec. Because their system is slightly different, I would appreciate someone with similar and specific experience to learn from. You can't get it wrong when you listen to people who have done before, what you are now about to do.

So please I am still awaiting feedback on the question.

Cheers.

Frankrobbn1:



CAQ is not required for SOWP application.



It will end in praise

Hi all,

Please is there any Quebec based student already in Canada planning to apply (or already applied/got approved) for SOWP for spouse and/or study visas for kids? I want to know if CAQ is required for minors (7 years old and 12 years old) and if yes, how to go about it. Please help if you have or know anyone who has direct experience or can recommend someone to contact.

Thanks for your response in advance.

Chief, I hail oh! We dey try settle in but acada don start so we dey juggle things. respect boss!

JustMellow:


Hello Akannitommy,

I trust the transitioning is going well yonder. No be small thing bro. because the sh!t wey dey stain pant nah very small one and e fit go turn big mess later.

I sight you oga

You are not called JustWise (edit: oh, you are Justmellow - all join )for nothing. I did exactly all these both on gadget and online profile. Thank you for that validation because I thought I was paranoid at some point.

JustMellow:


Hello OtunbaTee,

In addition:

This ís going to be the trend, digitalization is advancing same as way of life and its effect to the social society, so the VOs must as well advance their security checking system.

Its not also wise to travel with a gadget of unwarranted conrespondence that the law would frown towards, leave it back and travel with a new gadget if the funds is there or clean the phone sparkling clear off what would draw attention.

Where most people let their guard down and create a loop is on LinkedIn after many forget they even have a profile there. Some applicants' LinkedIn profile shows one thing and their job position shows some else in the reference/employment letter. The wise thing for anyone with vested interest in immigration should first prepare to do laundry before applying.

Cheers

The gods are not crazy nah! Congrats.

OtunbaTee:
THE EAGLE HAS FINALLY LANDED...AFTER SEVERAL EMAILS TO UPS, BECAUSE I DIDNT REMEMBER TO PUT MY PHONE NUMBER, THEY'VE BEEN SENDING ME EMAILS THAT THEY'RE UNABLE TO REACH ME..MEN I STARTED ANOTHER EMAIL TRAILS TO UPS AND THEY FINALLY BROUGHT MY EAGLE O...USED N2500 TO SETTLE THE gods.

Thank God

I know that - my comment was "first time seeing a VO statement specifically saying someone didn't have international travel history as one of the reasons for refusals. ". I was refering to the comments in the GCMS notes. Even though it is a common reason for refusal, you rarely see it stated this clearly in a GCMS note.

TheShaman:
Travel history as a reason for refusal happens quite frequently more than you think; especially for somewhat older applicants.

Hi,

I understand the feeling. It is not strange to most people here. Its a form of baptism so no problem. Here is what I would advise.

Unless you can get a scanner/imaging technology that will optimize the output of all intended attachments for quality and file size then you need to strike a balance. This will be between adding many documents and ensuring contents for those attached are clear and legible on the one hand, and keeping the eventual file size below 4MB.

So take another look at your documents. If you have a business and company registration for instance with 12 pages, you probably don't need more than 2 or 3 of those pages. Keep the CAC certificate, profile of directors/owners and description of business activities. You will weed out 8 to 9 pages here. A land document for instance only need the survey and or main C/O pages. I added just a survey for land document. Also, you should explore how to have two or more small sized related documents on a single page. All my kids birth certificates were on a page. You can have passport data page and birth certificates and/or old visas on the same page.

The final decision is yours. NB: Don't forget to gather as much material as possible but then decide on which ones are the most imporatnt to use becasue of the quality and file size limitations. Actually both correspond positively; as image quality impproves, file size does too and vice versa.

Ire oh! It shall end in praises.

mrkingz:
Greetings Great Minds!

I have concerns with compressing documents and their eligibility to read;

1. when fully compressed (strong compression using smallPdf pro), figures in my transcript and other recommendation letters/documents appears hard to read!

Question: Am I being overly concerned about this? Is it just ok

If I am the VO reading these docs, that's some extra work the applicant is giving me! I am just abit concerned.

Any comment on this or some other extra thing to do to my docs to make it small and still able to be read without stress, please, kindly offer your thoughts.

Thank you in advance!

@justmellow
@lekiboboe

Wow! This is the first time seeing a VO statement specifically saying someone didn't have international travel history as one of the reasons for refusals. Applications are indeed differently treated. Several people applied with VIRGIN passports and such was never a concern. Its really crazy how unpredictable the VOs can be.

I think the main issue here was your finance. Improve that and make sure the re-application is as tight as before, you should be god with God on your side.

Ire oh! It shall end in praises.

RichieJayy:
Good day to everyone in the house and special greetings to those contributing highly to see others successfully getting their TRV. I am learning a lot after my first refusal...I’m a silent reader on this platform. I was refused Study Permit in September 2020 due to purpose of visit and financial reasons. I already got my gcms note.

I want reapply, my questions is,

1. Is it now mandatory we all have to write IELTS?

2. Is mandatory we all go through the NSE route?

I asked because I haven’t written IELTS before and with the nature of my job it’ll be hard to write it now..And I will appreciate a lot if someone can help me review my LOE/SOP to see if I tackled all necessary issues highlighted from my previous refusal..Thanks!!

Hi,

I had to show a proof of where I would be self isolating; a short lease or private airbnb accomodation should be adequate. The POE officer will almost certainly as about where you would be staying especially now that they require a -ve PCR test result in addition. If you are going to be staying with friends or family, you need to be careful saying so because the POE officers will want to know if there are vulnerable group (kids and the elderly) in the place.

Ire oh! It shall end in praise.

lentomac:

Thanks for your response

Actually am asking this question in respect of someone who has gotten her Study Visa Approved and wants to travel

Does that mean she should make available a budget of $2500 CAD for the quarantine?

@milkytins ,

Congratulations in advance. There is nothing wrong with the child application but if it is a visitor visa (for the child), that may explain the delay. Study and work permit are being prioritized above visitors at this time due to the pandemic. I am sure latest after your approvals (which are very imminent), you will get update on your child's application. However, my advice is that you do upfront medical for the child atthe same time you are doing yours to avoid returning for it in a few days/weeks.

Ire oh! It shall end in praises.

milkytins:
Good afternoon all.
I submitted an application for work permit (a year postdoc) on January 4, 2021. I added my wife's open work permit and a 5yr old daughter for visitor visa to my application. I received medical requests for myself and wife yesterday (14 days after submission).
Pls is there anything wrong with my daughter's application for not receiving medical request?

Hi @tojeruky

Sorry to hear about the experience and delay. I am a learner on this platform so I urge you to redirect your questions to more qualified legends in the house. However, I will offer my own little opinion on your questions and pose one or two questions to you as well to enable other respondents better help you.

"1. Can I secure a Masters in Canada with that CGPA? If yes, kindly share any step by step guide or tips for success."
If your reported CGPA of 3.6 is for a BSc and out of a total of 4, which I assume would be a first class, then Yes. But that is highly unlikely for the educonsultant to say, so I suspect your meant 3.6/5.0. In that case, your CGPA would be a 2.1 which is also very qualified for a Master degree application. In fact, we have seen somone report on here that they got Masters admission in Canada with 2.2 grade/CGPA. You need to provide more details about your actual grades and discipline - both for Bsc and the planned Msc for people to better analyse and respond.

"2. Can I appeal or contest my student visa refusal? If yes, please share any ideas or ways to go about it."
Yes but it is a very costly, risky and time consuming route especially for a single refusal without cogent argument to challenge the situation. You may just be wasting time and money. The usual advice on this platform is that you should request your GCMS notes, understand the specific concerns of the VO and repackage your application to address those reasons, before reapplication.

Ire oh! It shall end in praises.

Hi @TheShaman,

Thanks again for your response. I want to be crystal clear, my intention for trying to get clarification on this topic is first to learn. I am also interested in helping others avoid wasting time and money, by learning from other people's experiences.

Although you didn't pinpoint the exact aspect(s) of my post that may be wrong as requested so I can learn from your opinion I am putting together my thoughts on this topic here, in counter response.

In case my original posts were confusing, let me summarize the following key scenarios on this topic;

For Online Application, you don't have to pay package transmission fee to send passport upon approval if the biometric was taken at the same vfs centre on that particular application. Just submit your proof of biometric - the long yellow slip - when you send your passport and other requirements. Let's assume this was an all Lagos vfs affair.

Following from the example above, if you decided to send your passport to Abuja vfs for stamping upon approval, you MUST pay the N7,430 package transmission fee because of the difference in locations.

Let us now assume you mixed this up with a paper application, that would apply to applicants whose previous online applications were unsuccessful then decided to switch to using a paper application route at some point. They will pay the package transmission fee at the point of submitting application. This fact is clearly stated on the vfs website and I quote below;

"If you do not need to provide biometrics and you are submitting your passport and/or documents at the Visa Application Centre, the package transmission fee will apply."

Most posts of people on this platform usually carry a caveat that it is their own opinion so we don't take it as the gospel truth then later find out it may be flawed. I try to follow in the footsteps of those legends by inserting the source and limitations of my opinion in my earlier post thus;

"That is what I believe from the past experiences of people here and those I know personally."

To the few specifics of your case
I do not think your case and experience is what every other person would normally go through. You did biometric AFTER refusal of your first application. Most (99%) applicants would have done their biometric before getting a decision, at the least. Or would be too distraught to even remember they had already paid for biometric. So you can't use your case to measure how the process works if it is not the common way most people do it. It is just like using the case of someone who got PPR before Medical Request. We can't judge every other case with such an outlier which is exactly what happened in your experience. I want to believe that person would still have to complete the medical exams whether it is requested or not before they get their TRV/SP.

Also, we are not sure how your biometric (completed after refusal) was categorised. There will be need to consider a few more questions to help build a better understanding of the way this thing works (or worked in your case). What is taken as part of the first or the second online application? When did the biometric reflect on your CIC profile? How long time lapsed between the first refusal and the second application? I suspect a visa application case is closed once a decision is taken and communicated to the applicant. One theory is that your biometric may have been applied as a fresh one to the second application because of (1) the timing (2) both were submitted online; and (3) your biometric was given at the same place as you sent passport for PPR, or (4) it could just be an administrative mistake/discretion.

I will add two case studies here to support my position below;

CASE 1
@Anamekele submitted 3 online applications, with a single biometric done in Lagos, that were unsucessful. Upon his 4th application via paper route in Abuja, he was required to pay for package transmission fee and he did before his application was accepted. That application was refused and his passport returned to him while all paper/documents were retained. He went to judicial review, won and resubmitted online with no biometric as the original remains valid for 10 years. He didn't pay for transmission because the 5th one was an online application. However, when he got PPR this time he assumably sent his passport using 2-way courier without a transmission fee for stamping. He was informed within 24/48 hrs that his passport is being returned. When he got back the package - via his paid 2 way courier - he was required to pay for transmission fee. He paid for both the package transmission fee and the VFS in-house courier then resent. He got back his stamped passport within a week.

CASE 2
Someone I know did biometric in Lagos but was refused visiting visa twice in 2018. Fast forward 2020, she got a PPR for permanent residency along with her child. This happened through the husband who had been an international student but now has PR in Canada. During submission of the passport for stamping through courier to the same vfs Lagos, it was clearly requested and they paid for package transmission.

In conclusion, I didn't make the opinion to sound like a law cast in stone so I am aware I could be wrong in one or more of my assumptions. But I was also speaking from the point of practical examples and stated rules of the processes, that I was familiar with.

As usual, ire oh!, it shall end in praise and let the learning continue!

TheShaman:
This may not be accurate. I didn't pay a transmission fee for my second application that was approved when I sent my passport to VFS Abuja.

I think you can cancel to free space for some other people.

Ayokaq:
I have appointments for Jan 25th at IOM however have already done it at Qlife yesterday. I don't know how d swapping work.

Thanks for the response. Can you please clarify for the benefit of all the following:

Where did you submit your first/second application and was it paper or online application?
When you submitted your second application (if paper), did you pay for transmission or not (regardless of whether you sent to where you gave your original biometric)?

Answers to the above will help clarify what aspects of my original post may be incorrect.

Thanks.

TheShaman:
This may not be accurate. I didn't pay a transmission fee for my second application that was approved when I sent my passport to VFS Abuja.

Yes, the only exception is if the biometric was taken at that centre for that particular application. For subsequent applications that got to approval/PPR, you will need to pay for transmission fee. This applies even if you are submitting at the same centre where you gave your biometric in the preceding application. That is what I believe from the past experiences of people here and those I know personnaly.

UPDATED: If you submit paper application, everytime you do (not if this only apply to submitting at a different location than before) you will have to pay for biometric transmission fee even at the point of application. If you get PPR.Approval, and decide to submit passport from a different centre, be ready to pay for a transmission fee as well.

mazeb:



What if you used Abuja for your 1st application that was rejected and you are now using Abuja for PPR for a 2nd application that has been approved.

do you still pay transmission fee ?

I think you need to do a first degree in a health related discipline (biomedicals, physiotherapy, dentistry, nursing, biochemistry etc) or sciences (Biology, Chemistry, Physics etc). These are called pre-med school. By the end of the program you should be eligible to apply for a PR. Afterwards, you them apply to medical school. In the US, I knew someone who got married to a citizen/resident before they finished their pre-meds to enable then qualify to apply to med school after first degree. I think you need to declare intention to go to med school at some point before completing the pre-med degree though. This route (in Canada) is best for very young applicants who are getting into first degree as teenagers (16/17/18/19).

UwaMmebii:


Yes sir I mean waec. Please how do I go applying for any of the top medical school there?

My DLI is on the list of approved DLI with Covid-19 plan. What I meant was that my DLI is not yet open to in-person classes just like 99% of all DLIs. Hope that is clear? No airline will carry you if your DLI is not on the approved list. That is part of what they verify at the airport when they ask you for LOA and LOE etc.

gugu40:


Thanks for the advice.
I will wait for the GCMS notes before I reapply.

Wow you were able to fly, when your DLI is not on the list of approved DLI?
How did you do it?
What documents did you provide to the airline before you were allowed to board the plane?
What documents did show when you landed in Canada to the immigration (proof of exemption)

Abeg help.

Thanks for the advice again.

Hi,

Thanks for the comprehensive response. However, regardless of these cogent responses, I would still advise against submitting an application just yet without (at the minimum) getting the GCMS notes. The notes are up to 10 pages are times and they explain in detail what rationale the VOs considered while making a decision. Although, I would say don't apply until your wife has landed in Canada but if the route you decide on is to re-submit sooner than that, I strongly suggest you wait for the GCMS notes and address the contents objectively. BTW, DLI do not need to open before you can travel to Canada. Am going to be studying from home because my DLI is not open for in-person classes and I travelled down here just a little over 2 weeks ago.

It shall end in praises!

gugu40:

Thank you for your response.
My wife is a study permit holder, still at home with me here studying online (DLI not yet opened). I am working here in Asia. I applied for a spousal open work permit with my kids (study permit).
I just requested for my gcms basic (electronic) from a gcms site online

This was how I wanted to reply the embassy.

• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in
subsection 200(1) of the IRPR, based on your travel history.

I have travelled to many countries and I have not over stayed my visa or stay in any of these countries after my visa expired. The only country I have stayed in is to work as an expatriate (in Asia) though I have been working here but my investments have always been to my home country (Nigeria), because that is my country and where I intend to spend the rest of my life in old age(that is why my investments (submitted proof in my application landed properties and shares) in Nigeria and not here. I intend to start a business (a school) in future (I registered a business name in Nigeria already because my intention is to go back to Nigeria (submitted proof already my CAC certificate). I do have assets in Nigeria (Landed properties, shares and mutual funds) so my family and I do not intend to stay in Canada after the visa that will be issued to us expires.

• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in
subsection 200(1) of the IRPR, based on your immigration status.

I have lived in (Asia) as an expat (working) for more than 12 years and my immigration status has never been a problem, because my office has always renewed my work permit every year. I have a very good working relation with the office (you could check my work permit submitted with this application). My next extension of visa is still far away and I am very sure that my visa will be renewed as it has been done for the last 13 years.

• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in
subsection 200(1) of the IRPR, based on your family ties in Canada and in your country of residence.

My immediate family is here with me and most of my extended family members live in Nigeria. Based on my family ties in my country of residence (that is my immediate family) our intention is to go to Canada with my spouse and after her studies relocate to Nigeria like I stated in my letter (SOP) last subsection in this letter (number 11 future plans the last page of this letter).

• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in
subsection 200(1) of the IRPR, based on the purpose of your visit.

My purpose of visit to Canada, is to be with my wife as she studies (to be as one family) were myself and the kids (2 kids) will give her emotional support, build our marriage and family (the kids will really miss their mother if they are not with her) as well as motivate her performance in her studies. The kids are really young (5 years and 10 years) and they really need their mother. My wife and I looked at our plans together as a family; we decided that for the best interest of our kids and marriage not to separate the family for the duration of her studies in Canada. These are the reasons why I chose to go with my wife and kids to Canada from here where I have stayed or lived for the last 15 years.

Thanks for the advice.
God bless

Hi, sorry to hear about the delay on this application.

I went through your previous posts to try piece together a short profile but it is not clear whether you are a current study permit holder or working in Asia. Can you please provide a summary profile for the members so they can provide input. Generally, I think you should not rush in to put in another applicaytion without a GCMS notes. Looking forward to your response.

It shall end in praises.

gugu40:
Please I need an answer or an advice
Hi Guys... @Frankrobbn1 @justwise (Good morning gurus in the house sirs and madams)
Please, Please, I need your help.
I was just sent a refusal mail today for spousal open work permit with 2 kids (study permit).

This is the mail

Thank you for your interest in working in Canada. After careful review of your work permit application and supporting documentation under the International Mobility Program, I have determined that your application does not meet the requirements of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA) and Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations (IRPR). I am refusing your application on the following grounds:

• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in subsection 200(1) of the IRPR, based on your travel history.
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in subsection 200(1) of the IRPR, based on your immigration status.
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in subsection 200(1) of the IRPR, based on your family ties in Canada and in your country of residence.
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in subsection 200(1) of the IRPR, based on the purpose of your visit.

You are welcome to reapply if you feel that you can respond to these concerns and can demonstrate that your situation meets the requirements. All new applications must be accompanied by a new processing fee.

I want write a new SOP and respond to their concern and reapply immediately (tomorrow)
What do you think? Am I too fast?

Just to add:

You may also be able to request a copy of your report from the panel physician/clinic but they will only give the summary of the non-confidential components - HIV, SYPHILIS, and the SERUM CREATININE - test reports. This will likely show the type of tests, the methods/kits used for these, and result including any special comments. I got a copy of this from IOM, Lagos on request 2-days after my medical exams.

mcobex:
1. If it is less expensive in Nigeria will you fly back to Nigeria just for medical? Lol
2. If it is IRCC accredited physicians then they will accept it
3. They will send the result to IRCC in the space of 2-5 days after your test. They will only give you a receipt to show you have done and paid for your medical (you can later decide to upload it to your application if you feel like, but that's not the result)
4. IRCC will send you an email asking you to go for your biometric and the address of the visa centre in your country/city will be sent to you. You can also search online to see the Canadian visa centre closest to you (in most countries IRCC uses the services of visa application centres to help get those information and accept paper applications from applicants).... Google that
5. Yes you can do both on the same day. But you need to plan your movement the right way.
Biometric (thumbprint and capturing) will be done after you have submitted your application (might take between 2 days to 2 weeks after your application, depending on when they send your biometric invitation). As for medical, if you intend to go for upfront medical, you can do that before applying then submit your payment receipt together with your application (meaning you will not do medical and biometric on the same day). Another option will be you submit your application without medical, then once you get your biometric invitation you can now book an appointment with the physician on the same day (after your biometric). Once you get the receipt you can send to IRCC whenever you want.
The last option will be to apply, wait for your biometric invitation, then later on wait to receive medical invitation (this will most likely be on a different date)

I paid N280,000 for one-way on Turkish Airlines through Wakanow back in November. Since you won't arrive until Summer/Fall 2021, I suggest you book and do "pay small small" option Wakanow. Check online and then call them to ask what is possible. You may end up paying more (or less?) 6 months from now.

Blavkmaann:
PLEASE WHATS THE CHEAPEST DOPE FLIGHT SOMEONE CAN USE TO GO TO THIS CANADA,

This EMIRATES AND ETHIOPIAN DONT KNOW EVERYBODY IS NOT INTO RITUALS

ALMOST 600k (to go to where)

Please I need other good flights

Okay thanks for the response.

My humble advise is for you to focus on getting one or two PhD admission offer at this point. You can even talk above visa application (assuming you get offers - funded or not), until about Feb/March 2022. Take it one step at a time but one thing you have on you side is time. Start working on a plan now and putting all the bricks in the right place before you get to the point when you will apply.

You will be able to decide more confidently when you get to that bridge, whether to apply alone or with family. What you need are preparation and strategy.

Wishing you best of luck in this application cycle. Let us know if you need help with your PhD admission application (assuming you have crossed all the boxes for a potential PhD) and and sure you will get all the support you need on here.

Ire oh! It shall end in praises.

Mnwojiji:


Thanks for your response.

As for the PhD offer, im yet to apply. but i hope to apply this year (2021) which will commence in October.
total funding for the programme for one year is CAD $ 6,200
I am the one to fund everything
i shall be starting by september 2020
I have properties that generate rents here in Nigeria (Lands and Buildings)

Okay, I have a few questions before I can respond and I can only comment on applying alone because that is what I did. I can't comment on joint application because I don't have the experience.

For context, I also have 3 kids who are minors ofcourse and I am 41-years old with a full funded PhD offer. I applied alone using family as a strong home ties. I intend to apply for my family in a few weeks and am positive about the outcome. What is important is am here now and it is only a matter of when will my family join me and not IF they will.

My questions are as follows;
Do you have the funded PhD offer already or not? I believe this is self evident why I ask.

What is the total amount of funding you got? So you can check if the amount is enough for you alone to apply or together with family. If you apply with family, the financial proof will be higher than when you apply alone. You can only use your prorated annual funding to claim towards POF and not all.

What is the source of the funding; school/employer/Nigerian Government/Canadian Government/International Development Agency? To determine whether you are required to return home after completion or not. Most non-DLI funding require you to return home and technically ineligible for PR application without fulfilling that condition although the practical application vary case by case basis.

When are you planning to start the program? Will let you know how much time you have to get start with visa applcations assuming you already have your offer at hand.

What is your personal financial position? If the PhD funding is inadequate to cover yours and/or family application, what are the avenues you plan to proof the additional funding required. I will shared my financial projections for applying with family vs. applying alone with you when you reply so you can see the difference.

Ire oh! It shall end in praises.

Mnwojiji:



I appreciate your inputs here.
please i am above 35 years and i intend to go for a PhD programme in Canada. My wife and three minor children shall also be accompanying me. following my findings; together with my study permit application, my wife would also be applying for an open work permit. Since my children are minors, what forms are my going to fill for them?

thanks brethren

Ire oh! It shall end in praise.

Thanks Fratermathy - very lucid as usual. I will add a few thoughts here.

Most (not all) PhD candiadates from our part of the world are advanced in age (above 30/35 years of age). I also know those under 25 years but very few and between. Therefore, if you are an established candidate - with family, kids, businesses, etc - please show your plan for the family while you are away. How will the family survive while you are away? Does your spouse have a source of verifiable income to cope in your absence? If no, have you made plans for their sustenance? What are the plans - even a simple explanation that shows you have thought about it may be adequate. So the trick is balancing the art of submitting enough documentation without being desparate but also making sure you cover all possible bases in this regard.

Yes, most fully funded PhD applicants have better chance of visa approval, don't take if for granted; do the work. Examples exist that shows even with full funding it is not an automatic approval. You also need to pass a different test of proof when the funding is from Nigeria (say government source) vs. Canadian source. The former requires more work to achieve than the latter.

Ire oh! It shall end in praise.

fratermathy:


Normally, it shouldn't be required if the funding covers everything, but I've seen some cases where they reject applicants on the basis of financial assets because they didn't submit their personal SoA. My advice is that you should submit your SoA but the amount in it needn't be too much - just show enough to prove that you can take care of miscellaneous expenses by yourself.

If you don't have the money at all, you could also get a close relation
to "gift" you money and then explain the nature of the gift in your S.O.P. However, I wouldn't advise you to get a sponsor or to borrow a huge amount of money. It's always best to keep your application simple and direct. Submitting too many things may come off as desperation, especially if you're a fully funded PhD student. Too many documents also means the VO would have more things to scrutinize and there could be loopholes you hadn't thought about. Just keep things simple and submit only essential documents that prove your eligibility, home ties, and proof of funds.

Finally, and perhaps most importantly, package your home ties very well. Whether you have all the funding in the world or not, prove to IRCC that you have material, economic, social, and family ties to Nigeria.

Unless it is requested, either as admission condition or application requirement, you don't need to send. Some schools are actually accepting electronic copy from the University as sufficient due to Covid-19 wahala.

Queenmama03:
Happy new year house! Please for those of you that got admissions how did you go about sending your transcript. Did you wait for the school to request the original copy or you just sent it after applying?

I know you can upload a soft copy during application but eventually the school will request for a copy from your school if offered admission. Please when did you start processing it. I'm just trying to save time. Thanks.