@Op, that's rubbish curious! The children belong to FFK whether he paid bride price or not. If they are both Igbos, their custom may prevail. However, FFK also has his custom that supports man owning the children whether he married formally/paid bride price or not.
At the end, they will approach high court that believes only in DNA.
samuk: You don't read my post but continue to reply to them. Can you swear that you don't get excited whenever my name pops up on a thread, because you know, you are likely to learn a thing or two.
On the photograph you shared, the Oba of Benin was the only born king on it, hence he was also the only one that was allowed with his traditional emblem with the bearer on attendance, the Ada and Omuada. Others on that photograph from the Sultan, Emir, Obi, Ooni, etc are all appointed by politicians. Why was the Ooni not allowed to display his traditional staff. Nigeria government and politicians know who is a king and those that are not in the real sense.
Like I said earlier, if not the British that lumped everyone together, the Oba of Benin have no reason to be in that gathering. You will hardly see the Oba of Benin in such gathering, how many of such, have you seen him since then.
How many of such gathering did you see past Oba of Benin attended.
Before I would have taken my time to read and give counter replies to every line of your lies but I don't do such to unrepentant revisionists again.
Why no go to Ife or Sokoto to tell them the Ọọni or Sultan not the children of their forefathers?
samuk: Others do read them, I wasn't counting on you and others like you filled with dogma and ignorance of history to read them.
Those that are interested in real history rather than fairytales will read them.
See Samuk, myself and many others have provided you genuine facts as replies to this your repeated gibberish... As for me I don't have time to read same lies you copy and paste for years, every time you invade others' threads. It proofs nothing but sane people only laugh at you.
You've seen the reason I didn't read your fictitious lies again, ba?
samuk: It doesn't change the simple fact that Ife wasn't mentioned in world history until the 1800s.
It doesn't change the fact that Oyo eyewitness historical accounts began in 1824.
It doesn't change the fact that compared to the Ooni, the Oba of Benin is not a politically appointed position. Oba of Benin is not selected from a pool of contestants.
The oba of Benin is born king the Ooni is not, the Ooni is selected and appointed by politicians from a pool of constants.
The oba of Benin and Ooni are not in the same class, one is a born king, the other is appointed by politicians.
It doesn't change the fact there are no independent eyewitnesses to the so called Oyo empire, the yoruba are the ones that claim Oyo was an empire, this fictitious empire is not known in world history. It's not known outside of Nigeria.
The Benin empire is known worldwide.
Benin greatness was recorded by the Europeans that invented the word greatness.
Benin entered the Guinness book of world records to have built the greatest monument on earth pre mechanical era.
No amount of photography of the Ooni can change this simple fact.
Yoruba is a modern day political creation.
Benin is ancient.
There is 400 years historical gab between Benin and Oyo.
None of the Europeans that visited west Africa since the 1300s witnessed the so called Oyo empire. We are not going to accept that Oyo was an empire because you made such claim.
Benin is still bigger than what remained of Rome, this doesn't change the face that Rome like Benin was a great empire that influence the world.
When will talk of world empires that created and built world class monuments, Egypt, Rome and Benin are mentioned but Oyo is not on that list.
Amongst Egypt, Rome and Benin, the Benin monument was recognised by guinness book of records as the greatest, consuming 100 times more material than the pyramid in Egypt.
If not for British that lumped everyone together in Nigeria, Benin have no business being discussed alongside any yoruba town historically.
You can rant from now till eternity, I don't read those lies you wrote up, Mr revisionist!
Go create your thread and paste your lies there as usual rather than derailing this. Those that give a damn about your revisionism will reply you there.
UltraSphinx: There's just too much inconsistencies in this unprovoked rant of yours. You just claimed that Oyo was never an empire, when the name "Yoruba" is the biggest testament to that fact. The Name "Yoruba" is a corruption of the Hausa word "Yerribawa" - a term used to describe people of the Oyo empire.
You also can see this! More lies! They're revisionists, baby ones at it. Before we normally educate these guys with facts; TAO and many others really did justice to this but guys drag themselves always in the gutters thinking that no one could descend to such level with them. I just chose to kick them in their gutters; they're revisionist and their revisionism changes nothing... Benin remains the smallest kingdom down South with about 5 LGAs while the Oyo they so much like to denigrate in about 4 States in Nigeria and 2 West African countries. Even in Edo, how many people say they are bini?
We're talking about relivancy, they're invading every thread with their smallest Bini ancient story while not Inca, Mali?
This is Ọọni, hope you locate their bini Oba there?
samuk: 1. An ignorant Yoruba thinks Edo are Igbo. 2. An ignorant Igbo thinks Edo are Yoruba.
Do you know one thing I don't even get time to read the repeated lies and jargons you keep pasting every time. No sane person would bother wasting his time on that as you keep invading every thread that doesn't concerned you with such.
What you revisionists have in common is brain filled with bigotry and insult. You people write lies upon lies and claim it to be fact. You should be ashamed to claim that Itsekiris are binins with your other monikers.
I know it's difficult for you to understand what I wrote there, 'You people like to derail threads that never concerned you; this shows inferiority complex... This is common with you and your siblings to the east who invaded your territory during biafra war'. You're siblings because you do the same thing but they're better than you guys. Better go back to school instead of displaying your foolishness on a public forum.
Truthvalue42: Look, you are clearly a clown. You seem to believe that people should come and justify their identity to you before their identity could be validated.
I have talked to you more than enough, eventhough you have nothing to bring to the conversation except your bigotry, your revisionism and dogmatism. At this point talking to you only means relitigating already settled matters (settled right here on this same page). You need to keep your tiny brain up to speed:
1) precolonial maps show Urhobo and Itsikeri to be Edos 2) Urhobo and Itsikeri traditional stories also claim them to be Edos.
Talking to you feels like talking to a dumb robot.
Also, you need to stop confusing your lack of knowledge with lack of existence of proof. You are extremely ignorant so at least don't make this mistake.
More and more lies in order to proof a point through emotions... That's what makes you the worst 'baby revisionist'.
Instead of writing this mockry jargons above why not provide readers with facts that make Itsekiris Benin's? Let me help you, boy; go Google Itsekiri origin. Only the ruling Ginua came from bini and he was a great groundson of Oranmiyan of Ife not Igodomigodo Ogiso. The Itsekiris people are from Yoruba Ijebus, Ilajes and Ikales... Boy, go school o and stop mocking yourself here.
As I earlier stated, you know nothing you talk about, you just blow hot air based on your female emotions without any recourse to reasoning. Though, it is not surprising that an outsider wouldn't have a clue, but it shows some lack of common sense when that same outsiders tries to pose as an expert in the subject.
It's funny that I'm even according 'baby revisionist' a response. Keep writing Itsekiris, Urhobos are binins and you don't even understand a word of Itsekiri. Moreover I've never come across Urhoboman or Itsekiriman that says he's Benin. These are lies revisionists tell. Yours seems to be the worst among bini revisionists. I've never seen any of them claiming Itsekiris are bini except Ginua. You're only on public forum to mock yourself in a thread that never involved the smallest group in the South, bini.
Truthvalue42: 1) show what part of what I said falls into the category of revisionism. (Facts do matter) 2) I guess you are confusing Benin kingdom with Edo state like the usual ignoramus which you are: for your information once again: Benin Kingdom is a precolonial country and the entirety of Edo-state and Delta-state and Lagos and many other parts of land are part of Benin kingdom. 3) Urhobos and itsikeri are my blood brothers, they are my Edo brothers. 4) as for my education: I'm a mathematician and I could clearly teach you whatever subject that exists in this world. 5) you are very uneducated, it is amazing that you can even read. 6) also no part of Edo-state accepted your yoruba political label, so kindly shove that away.
Conclusion : you need some formal education rather than your unending racial diatribing.
Why not go to Ughelli, Warri, etc and tell them they are binins, boy Igodomigodo; Afemais and Esans would not even agree to bini tag. When you passed NECO, you may be able to get answers to questions already asked above instead of being insultive just like your fellow revisionists.
Truthvalue42: 1)Your head is full with bigotry and lacks what should be there instead: a brain. 2) again, I tell you there is only one yoruba group, it is also called oyo. All the rest are from several unrelated groups who politically agreed to carry the yoruba label. 3) the itsikeri are part of Benin empire 4) I see no reason to indulge your ignorance
Just reread what you wrote above. It's filled with revisionism.
Moreover, I didn't know I was engaging insultive boy, which probably still in high school! I hope the mod will do the needful.
All I'm trying to tell you, boy Igodomigodo, is that this thread isn't about your small bini kingdom but Yorubas in the North Central. So carry your emotional cries and hang on the neck of your Igodomigodo ancestors that dropped their ogisos, ogie titles for an Oba...
Or am I the one that says your kingdom shouldn't be more than 5 LGAs and Yoruba, Ijaws, Itsekiris, Urhobos, Ikas are even occupying more than half of them.
I give up on you if you can come online and beat your dry chest that Itsekiris are binins. Do you even understand a word of Itsekiri language?
If you can write 1 to 10 in Itsekiri language, I will accord you a response again... I don't really want to do this because I have many members of family that are now binins.
Truthvalue42: Your emotions won't change reality. And contrary to what you may think, reality does matter. But again you yoruba believe history is whatever your emotions of the moment dictates to you. This is why you never care for facts and logics, you repeat your dogma even when you sight proof of it falseness.
Needless to say, all you said here is mere insult and factless rubbish.
Which fact again when you're dealing with revisionists that are never logical or constructive in their submissions but lies.
I will give you facts if you could explain the background to your culture, your gods, etc. In every thorough research, Ogun, Umole, Olokun (from Itsekiris), aiyelala (from Ilajes), etc are all from Yoruba groups... Which one is bini culture other than witchcraft?
You people like to derail threads that never concerned you; this shows inferiority complex... This is common with you and your siblings to the east who invaded your territory during biafra war.
There was nothing like bini empire instead we had Ife princes' Kingdom of bini. There is difference between bini (ilẹ ibinu) and present Benin. What you have now is hybrid people of different origins. Most early Igodomigodo blood is more pronounced in Italy than Benin now.
macof: Lmao It must be really frustrating to try to deliver any of these 8 points when everyone except online Bini miscreants know better
Abi! Just because Itsekiris and Ilajes led some white men to see Ife prince ruling Igodomigodo, the small remaining Igodomigodo revisionists who live among bini populace won't allow us hear word by mocking themselves in a public online forum everyday with argument that is never logical or sensible.
samuk: Oyo empire is just another yoruba lie. Oyo was a little village who was constantly being terrorised by her neighbours, the Alaafin often relied on the Oba of Benin military strength because Oyo paid tributes to Benin.
Where is bini today? Already conquered by Yorubas and Ijaws in their about 4 LGAs. Everything in bini is Yorubas! From their gods to history, nothing is left of Igodomigodo except the ceremonious treaty Yoruba prince to be Oba of bini fulfill during coronation. Go and look for your mate to compete or measure dic.. with in the northern Cross River state or Adamawa. You're one of the smallest group in Nigeria. No one is your mate in the South South; is it Ijaw, Efik-Ibibio, Urobo or Delta north? Not to talk about Igbo or Yoruba. Just hang on to your revisionism if it makes you hard but know one thing and know peace, no Yoruba group, not even the least gives a damn thought about your existence. You only mock yourself when you believe that people in about 177 LGAs and many other countries came or borrowed anything from you. Instead we gave you your ruling house and every meaningful stuff in bini today.
AfonjaConehead: I think you got it.. I think it's kinda too late for them now..they should've removed it this year but God pass them
The pressure is coming mainly from the governors (APC, PDP & APGA), they're not giving up, they want more allocations and the Fed government cherished the idea. However, people's purchasing power is very low coupled with inflation and high food prices, it's going to be very difficult.
Gaddafi1: Recently, not sure I have seen any mechanic that does that, most prefer to change the engine. Like you said with the rising cost of an engine, some will make a trial. Necessity they say is the...
They prefer to change engine because lazy mechanics said so. They can't even differentiate between fake piston rings and original unlike in the past when people ringed their engines or bought new engine (not tokunbo/used). Mechanics are simply collaborating with used engines' sellers to exploit people. Some of the so called toks engines are already poorly ringed here in Nigeria. However, there are some decent mechanics that buy in bulk genuine piston rings, valve seals online and ring.rebuild engines perfectly; this is the way to go.
justtoodark: the infos are their....south east dont realy contribute much....actualy,south east is living on federal allocations....
Yeah. State per State, they're the highest employees of the Federal Government, Imo actually has the highest. Nigerians fought foreigners to leave their tradings for local people, however Igbos took over at the expense of every other tribe; yet they deeply hate these tribes that patronise their shops. Nigeria government and the people in other regions already gave them opportunities to be employed.
The main reason there're lots of unemployed in the East is that their leaders are very very greedy and instead of the populace to challenge their governments to do employments just like other regions, they aren't concerned but more concerned about Ganduje's Kano, Tinubu, Sanwo-olu's Lagos or Osun State. They rely on corpers. The average workforce in any South East state is less than one tenth of what we have in the nation's smallest states of other regions. This leaves so much money in the hands of their ruling politicians for capital projects; although this is good but they mainly embezzle this money except in a place like Ebonyi where the governor embarks on some capital projects.
backnbeta: I wonder what these out leaders mean by "Nigeria's unity is not negotiable"! Why can't we renegotiate an unfavorable union if the relationship is abusive, uncomfortable and loveless with only one parasitic partner enjoying it? It is well
.... thinking of learning to specially ring or rebuild Toyota Corolla engine. Many people will continue to patronise this vehicle as fuel price goes up. At the rate Tokunbo Corolla engine sellers are jacking up their prices compared with other engines, people will start going for good mechanics that ring/rebuild engine with original piston rings and valve seals; after all, this is popular in developed countries.
fizcoo20: Kk Thanks for your response. I really appreciate.
So I should go for d baby boy.
Want to ask of d name dey use to tag Honda Accord, leg pull.
Secondly, transmission compare to camry.
Thanks in anticipation
Go for Camry and have peace of mind. First the Camry Auto transmission is better, the Honda is prone to leg issue if not maintain properly. The Camry is more reliable, durable and have a better second hand value...
How could fulani groups like Miyetti and others parading as herdsmen and bandits hold the entire country to ransom with no one ready to confront them?
Mr. Akeredolu is my man of the year. Every Southerner must prepare for what the northerners are cooking for him or her. If you don't care about yourself as politician or enforcement officer, you should think about your family members and posterity. I don't know if we can cope with what's going on in Plateau, Niger, Kaduna, Zamfara, Katsina and others in the South.
Climate change! Europe is turning to Middle East climate! However, there are lots of trees, bushes, etc. to burn to have Middle East deserts in Europe.
funlover1: My Acura MDX 2004 experienced overheating and the mechanic decided we needed to change the radiator, we did that and everything was fine. But after then, I noticed the car won't start/crank easily. I initially thought it was battery but even after driving for several hours (after which the battery should have been charged enough) same thing was still happening.
I got a rewire who said it was the kick starter, we repaired the kick started but situation was the same. Then the mechanic recommended by the rewire discovered that oil was mixing with the oil, the oil was milky and the spark plug head was somehow wet.
This pointed to a bad gasket according to him.The mechanic changed the plug and after that the car cranked when we started it but that was the only time, the next morning it didn't crank ( just like it was doing before).
Now we have changed the gasket ,changed the oil but the car still won't crank.
The mechanic says we should change all the coil ( 6 of them) , he seems so confident that the car will work of we do that but I feel he is just doing trial and error.
Experts, kindly advise on what to do.
I am based in Lagos
I once had this issue; mine was Camshaft position error and that was resolved till date.
Throwback: So the Bight of Benin is in reference to Benin that is in Japan or where?
So which other Benin was the Bight of Benin named after?
Or the Gulf of Guinea is in reference to the Papau New Guinea in Polynesia and not the Guinea that is right by the West African Gulf?
They're just African names given to areas by first Europeans (Portuguese) who visited Guinea, Benin and Mafra. It has nothing to do with people and their territory.
Throwback: Well it is OK to borrow a name from a neighbouring tribe.
Gold Coast borrowed the Ghana name from the defunct Ghana empire in West Africa that was not anywhere near the territorial geography of modern Ghana.
Dahomey borrowed the Benin name from the defunct Benin empire in West Africa that is currently within Nigeria. So Dahomey became Benin Republic.
So I see nothing wrong that an Ijaw will provide the Igbos the name to call their Igboland, from the now defunct coastal description called Bight of Biafra.
Dahomey was named after Bight of Benin in the Gulf of Guinea, It has nothing to do with Benin as kindom. The bight of Biafra (named after a town called Mafra in the Cameroon) is in the eastern part of Gulf of Guinea.
This has nothing to do with Benin kingdom as you displayed fake map. It's very nonsensical to now say the whole West Africa belongs to Guinea because it's entire water is referred to as Gulf of Guinea.