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Christianity EtcRe: Crucified Again -exposing Islams New War On Christians by alexis(op): 2:56am On Sep 18, 2013
khattab02: hmmmm... So many Abu jahl of our time.
Since you are not ignorant of Islam and it's history - please enlighten us grin
Christianity EtcRe: Crucified Again -exposing Islams New War On Christians by alexis(op): 2:52am On Sep 18, 2013
dareabiola98: The Holy Bible from God Commanded Mosees

1."All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman.  (From the NIV Bible, 2 Chronicles 15:13)".

2. Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.  (Numbers 31:17-18)"

This girls were as young as 3yrs...

Do u Condemn this acts of moses YES OR NO

You All should be ashamed ogf yourselves...Recently..@Raymacblue posted contradiction in the bible..So Many views but no reply...I challenged him to post that of the Qur'an and by Allah,he conceded that we tried and we killed off all his allegations...Why do you guys shy away from important questions..We've been discussing Jihad In Islam,You qouted from the Qur'an,I accepted...I explained to you the meaning of the revelation but u didn't accept.Now I qouted from the bible,@ least say something against what I have written,is it that the verse I've qouted is not in the bible or I'm misinterpreting it... grin don't shy away when challenges faces your belief,if u refute this claims,it'll only make u stronger in faith....DO u Condemn the commandment god gave to moses in the book of Numbers?....YES or NO....
Nobody is shying away from anything. First, you are attempting to derail the thread and take it in another direction. Second, you don't want to answer the question we asked you. You are asking for a Yes and No question; I asked you the same and you haven't answered. The debate about Moses and the wars in the Old Testament can be a thread on it's own; I am willing to debate you anytime you want.

You picked a certain verse in the Bible and decided to make that your theme. You forget that there are NUMEROUS wars in the Bible. Remember David, he was a man of war - He killed Goliath yet he he committed adultery with Bathsheba and had her husband killed to cover his sin - God's judgement was swift.

The prophet Ezekiel does not spare the wicked in his denunciations, he also records Yahweh's words of grace: "If a wicked man turns away from all the sins he has committed and keeps all my decrees and does what is just and right, he will surely live; he will not die. Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Sovereign Lord. Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live?" (Ezekiel 18:21, 23). And he goes on in verse 32, "For I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Sovereign Lord. Repent and live!" And there is this compelling verse recorded in 2 Chronicles 16:9, "For the eyes of the Lord range throughout the earth to strengthen those whose hearts are fully committed to him."

All these descriptions of God depict him as unwavering in retribution on evil, though he takes no delight in it, and also unwavering in love and encouragement toward those hearts are turned toward him. God's obvious desire is that sinners should repent and live. But there comes a point where evil is finally intolerable and wiped from off the earth.

We must see these terrible retributions in their historical setting. The spread of wickedness was so pervasive that immorality, degradation, and barbarity invaded every facet of life. Children were sacrificed to pagan gods. Male and female prostitution took place right in the temple as part of the religious rites. Idol worship was rife and the society wholly contaminated. This evil was contagious and God's people were in danger of being infected as well. God's awesome judgement was finally unleashed.

You also forgot Noah and the flood when God destroyed the world because of Sin and wickedness - YOU SHOULD ASK ME IF I CONDEMN THAT AS WELL grin grin grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Crucified Again -exposing Islams New War On Christians by alexis(op): 10:14pm On Sep 17, 2013
dareabiola98: The Holy Bible from God Commanded Mosees

1."All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman.  (From the NIV Bible, 2 Chronicles 15:13)".

2. Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.  (Numbers 31:17-18)"

This girls were as young as 3yrs...

Do u Condemn this acts of moses YES OR NO....Yes or No....I accept all u've said of Muhammad(saw) for arguments sake...please....why is it so hard,hard,hard to accept.....
[size=15pt]DID YOU CONFIRM THAT MOHAMMED WAS A MURDERER AND A THIEF FOR ARGUMENT SAKE? I JUST WANT TO BE SURE?[/size]
Christianity EtcRe: Crucified Again -exposing Islams New War On Christians by alexis(op): 10:09pm On Sep 17, 2013
dareabiola98: The Holy Bible from God Commanded Mosees

1."All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman.  (From the NIV Bible, 2 Chronicles 15:13)".

2. Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.  (Numbers 31:17-18)"

This girls were as young as 3yrs...

Do u Condemn this acts of moses YES OR NO.....Response please,if u shy away fron this question we'd know and u'd know within urselfs that indeed...u fear to research on ur religion,u just accept what u r told
[size=15pt]WAS MOHAMMAD A THIEF, AN ARMED ROBBER & A MURDERER?[/size]
Christianity EtcRe: Crucified Again -exposing Islams New War On Christians by alexis(op): 10:07pm On Sep 17, 2013
Mintayo: lolz,why this desperation? Are you trying to justify your prophet's taste for murder or what?
If you dnt have anything meaningful to contribute why not use the *unfollow thread* button!
He is trying to derail the thread - posting the same question several times - JIHADIC SPAMMING grin grin grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Crucified Again -exposing Islams New War On Christians by alexis(op): 10:06pm On Sep 17, 2013
dareabiola98: The Holy Bible from God Commanded Mosees

1."All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman.  (From the NIV Bible, 2 Chronicles 15:13)".

2. Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.  (Numbers 31:17-18)"

This girls were as young as 3yrs...

Do u Condemn this acts of moses YES OR NO.. grin
YOU CAN POST IT 10 MILLION TIMES, IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE grin grin grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Crucified Again -exposing Islams New War On Christians by alexis(op): 10:05pm On Sep 17, 2013
dareabiola98: The Qur'an and Bible is known by both followers to be revelations from God....the ahadith can be accepted/not by any muslim if u feel the narration is weak....As I qoute the bible,Qoue me from the Qur'an....Since I asked the question first and people have been trying to cover up my question with jargons...I'll ask again(multiple times)!!!
Common excuse - if the hadith is weak based on your acceptance - then don't accept it at all. You are yet to answer my question as well. No one is covering your question.
Christianity EtcRe: Crucified Again -exposing Islams New War On Christians by alexis(op): 10:04pm On Sep 17, 2013
basilico: Let me add that the concept of muslims lying in order to advance the cause of islam originated when muhammad took over mecca. One of his former critics was alive I dont remember his name. Muhammad being the vindictive scum he was wanted him dead. One of his companions (sahib) offered to kill him but on the condition that he lied to the victim in order to lure him to his death. Muhammad allowed his sahib to lie and sure enough the sahib committed the murdered after lying to lure him out of his house. And Allah knows best. To the woman split into two by the camels Muhammad remarked that even 2 goats would never butt their heads for her. To his companions raping captured slaves and risking impregnating them and lowering their value on the slave market, muhammad allowed and remarked that no soul would ever be born if allah did not will thus allowing his army to have sex.. With captured slaves without withdrawing just before ejaculation. This is why i call muhammad (pbuh) piss be upon him the scum of the earth.
You hit the nail right on the head mate
Christianity EtcRe: Crucified Again -exposing Islams New War On Christians by alexis(op): 10:03pm On Sep 17, 2013
basilico: Alexis i am aware that in some raid muhammad was involved in was during the month when the kaaba pagans were fasting and during that fasting time (which the prophet robber hijacked to islam) the pagans were aghast at how one could raid at that time of the fast. Allah then brought down a revelation to legalise the action of his prophet robber.
Yep, you are right - I have the quote right here with me smiley. A man that breaks his contract and said Allah ordered it
Christianity EtcRe: Crucified Again -exposing Islams New War On Christians by alexis(op): 8:21pm On Sep 17, 2013
lanrexlan: I said no christian has ever explained the parable to me,I never lied.See you next time mate.
**unfollows thread**.....Peace
You said you were not ignorant of the parable - that means you knew about the parable and that Jesus was talking about someone else. Yet you posted the CLAIM that Jesus commanded someone be put to death. grin
Christianity EtcRe: Crucified Again -exposing Islams New War On Christians by alexis(op): 8:19pm On Sep 17, 2013
lanrexlan: A simple NO and has been proven with proofs.....Peace
Where are the proofs you provided?. I provided by proof from one of the earliest Muslim scholars in the 10th century, yet you claim you don't recognize it smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Crucified Again -exposing Islams New War On Christians by alexis(op): 8:17pm On Sep 17, 2013
Muslims like dareabiola98 seems ignorant of his own religion and it's history. To cover the embarrassment of the numerous murders and stealing done by His prophet - he wants to drag the Bible into it. It's a common Muslim tactic we are all used to smiley.

He is running off in another direction - shouting - there are killings in the Bible as well so it doesn't make any difference. Why didn't you open a thread about the killings in the Bible? Why is it that when we decide to talk about the persecution of Christians and how Islam has treated them over the centuries; you then decide to justify the Islamic oppression by dragging in Bible stories that has nothing to do with the theme at hand.

Let me give you a few paragraphs of your history smiley

THE FIRST FOUR RAIDS

The caravans of Mecca passed by Medina on their way to and from Damascus, full of merchandise and goods. Muhammad and his gang would set an ambush for them, quickly ROBBING & KILLING the merchants. It is regrettable that the 1st job Muhammad, the spiritual leader of his group, had in Medina was robbing caravans and killing merchants. So, the "Greatest of all the prophets" was a common thief, armed robber and a murderer. Whenever this is brought up, ignorant muslims like dareabiola98 overlook it but his eyes see the wars in the Bible smiley

Mohammad's 1st raid was known as the raid of Al-Iwa', where he assaulted a caravan that belonged to some Quraishis

The 2nd raid was known as Bawat, where he assaulted a caravan from Mecca led by Umia bin Khalaf, which he succeeded in robbing.

In the 3rd raid, known as Al-Ashira, a caravan going to Damascus was assaulted by Muhammad and his gang with the intent to rob it only but ended up KILLING 5 of it's men during the course of the robbery - A PROPHET THAT STEALS AND KILLS

The 4th raid was known as Al-Nakhla, a place between Mecca and Taif, Muhammad's lieutenant, Abd Allah bin Jahsj, led 12 men in an assault on a caravan carrying mainly raisins and cloths
Please read on your history
Christianity EtcRe: Crucified Again -exposing Islams New War On Christians by alexis(op): 7:42pm On Sep 17, 2013
dareabiola98: Please don't cover my Question with Jargons....Answer my question.... Do you condemn those acts of moses I stated YES OR NO?.....No stories please,I want us to be truthful here...YES or NO? Simple!!!
Did you answer mine?

Did Mohammad order the killing of a 70 year old woman by tying her to 2 camels and making them run in opposite directions?. A simple YES or NO will suffice grin
Christianity EtcRe: Crucified Again -exposing Islams New War On Christians by alexis(op): 7:42pm On Sep 17, 2013
dareabiola98

The prophet never did anything contrary to Islam,If u don't see it as right...I tell u now that I accept
I will ask you again - did Mohammad order the killing of a 70 year old woman by tying her to 2 camels and making them run in opposite directions? Your prophet did throw Islamic teachings in the corner when it came to his daughter - read the story about his son in law Ali and his daughter. Ali wanted to take another wife - which is legal under Islamic law; Fatima his daughter went to her father to complained. He forbid Ali from marrying any other woman - yet he had over 11 wives. Why break Islamic teaching when it comes to his family?

Again, I will ask you: Did Mohammad order the killing of a 70 year old woman by tying her to 2 camels and making them run in opposite directions?
Christianity EtcRe: Crucified Again -exposing Islams New War On Christians by alexis(op): 7:23pm On Sep 17, 2013
Dynamic03: Why are Christian not answeing my question

DO YOU CONDEMN THESE ACTS OF MOSES?.....YES OR NO...then we can debate

Muslims have been explaining the verse u've qouted...Please explain these. 1."All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman.  (From the NIV Bible, 2 Chronicles 15:13)".

2. Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.  (Numbers 31:17-18)"


Now what crime did the innocent children and non-virgin women commit in order for them to get killed? We answered ur claims but U didn't want to hear,so defend urs if u r truthful...NO STORIES....NOTE: Discreditting this act is discreditting moses,and discrediting moses as stated by jesus will not grant you the kingdom
Does this story tell Christians to kill people? Your answer will show your understanding of what you read grin
Christianity EtcRe: Crucified Again -exposing Islams New War On Christians by alexis(op):
Dynamic03

Why are Christian not answeing my question. DO YOU CONDEMN THESE ACTS OF MOSES?.....YES OR NO...then we can debate
The answer is in your response - did Mohammad order the killing of a 70 year old woman by tying her to 2 camels and making them run in opposite directions?
Christianity EtcRe: Crucified Again -exposing Islams New War On Christians by alexis(op):
lanrexlan: Seriously,I am not ignorant of it,just that I haven't see a christian that can explain the parable to me.But he cursed an innocent tree right? ....Peace
Now you are shifting from him been violent to cursing a tree smiley. Come on man! smiley. It appears you knew it was a parable yet you deliberately try to LIE that he ordered the killing when you knew it wasn't true. Why are you been dishonest?
ProgrammingRe: Exclusive Team Python Forum by alexis(m): 1:26pm On Sep 17, 2013
jworos: tanx bros
Anytime
Christianity EtcRe: Crucified Again -exposing Islams New War On Christians by alexis(op): 11:43am On Sep 17, 2013
Mintayo: lol,you are right,i just couldn't help it seeing lanre talking about Jesus telling His disciples about swords.cheesy
If Jesus instructed us to fight like muslims,i bet the world wld be in chaos more than what it is today.
Honestly,i am enjoying this thread even though debola is trying to derail it!smiley
Dem no wan give me time post what I want to post - I WILL smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Crucified Again -exposing Islams New War On Christians by alexis(op): 11:39am On Sep 17, 2013
lanrexlan: Luke 19:27 (NIV) -But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me.
Elijah and Enoch did the same as Christ.So,nothing special.
Lanre, I honestly thought you were honest smiley. I will assume you are ignorant on this one. Let us read the passage taken from Luke 19:

11 While they were listening to this, he went on to tell them a parable, because he was near Jerusalem and the people thought that the kingdom of God was going to appear at once.

12 He said: “A man of noble birth went to a distant country to have himself appointed king and then to return.

13 So he called ten of his servants and gave them ten minas.[a] ‘Put this money to work,’ he said, ‘until I come back.’

14 “But his subjects hated him and sent a delegation after him to say, ‘We don’t want this man to be our king.’

15 “He was made king, however, and returned home. Then he sent for the servants to whom he had given the money, in order to find out what they had gained with it.

16 “The first one came and said, ‘Sir, your mina has earned ten more.’

17 “‘Well done, my good servant!’ his master replied. ‘Because you have been trustworthy in a very small matter, take charge of ten cities.’

18 “The second came and said, ‘Sir, your mina has earned five more.’

19 “His master answered, ‘You take charge of five cities.’

20 “Then another servant came and said, ‘Sir, here is your mina; I have kept it laid away in a piece of cloth.

21 I was afraid of you, because you are a hard man. You take out what you did not put in and reap what you did not sow.’

22 “His master replied, ‘I will judge you by your own words, you wicked servant! You knew, did you, that I am a hard man, taking out what I did not put in, and reaping what I did not sow? 23 Why then didn’t you put my money on deposit, so that when I came back, I could have collected it with interest?’

24 “Then he said to those standing by, ‘Take his mina away from him and give it to the one who has ten minas.’

25 “‘Sir,’ they said, ‘he already has ten!’

26 “He replied, ‘I tell you that to everyone who has, more will be given, but as for the one who has nothing, even what they have will be taken away.

27 But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me.’”
It's either you are deliberately lying or you are not doing the text above justice. You keep trying to associate Jesus with violence and AGAIN, there is no where in the Bible that Jesus harmed or killed anyone. This just goes to show that you are really ignorant of basic bible teachings such as this one. The text clearly shows Jesus was narrating a parable as he has done on several occassions.
Christianity EtcRe: Crucified Again -exposing Islams New War On Christians by alexis(op): 11:29am On Sep 17, 2013
Mintayo: Jesus knew His disciple were ignorant at the time i.e babies in the things of God,that was why He said that the two swords were enough,the sword there is not physical sword,even though his disciples move about with sword.
What do you think mohammed wld have done in the place of Jesus when Jesus was arrested and peter had to cut the ear of one of the soldiers? I am sure He wld hv fought back,did you remember what Jesus said instead?
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Have you heard of the Sword of the Spirit before?...
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So many question unanswered by you people up there!
Whenever you talk about Spirituality in Christianity, it confuses muslims. For example, muslims don't believe in the original sin so Christ death for atonement of our sins doesn't make sense to them smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Crucified Again -exposing Islams New War On Christians by alexis(op): 11:27am On Sep 17, 2013
lanrexlan: Provide the reference.Make sure it's an authentic narration.....Peace
Let us ask you this way - did it ever happen?
Christianity EtcRe: Crucified Again -exposing Islams New War On Christians by alexis(op): 11:09am On Sep 17, 2013
lanrexlan: But you can't be sure what Christ and disciples purchased swords for because John says in his gospel[John 21:25]that there are many things Christ did and there's no space to write them in the bible.JIHAD may be one of those things.
You may be right but we don't go by - MAYBE. In debate and in matters that concern the souls of billions, we go by the truth and fact. It was never recorded that Jesus killed anyone and I CHALLENGE you to prove it - neither in the Bible or the Quran. On the contrary, he healed the sick, raised the dead, fed the hungry. I find it hard to believe that someone who not only taught love and kindness but also showed it will go back on his own words smiley

Now, compare that to Mohammad? grin
Christianity EtcRe: Crucified Again -exposing Islams New War On Christians by alexis(op): 11:01am On Sep 17, 2013
lanrexlan: Ooh,you remembered my exams.Wow! Nice of you,it was good.ALLIAMUADULILAH.
We all debate and share contrary views but we are all human beings. You are welcome mate
Christianity EtcRe: Crucified Again -exposing Islams New War On Christians by alexis(op): 10:56am On Sep 17, 2013
lanrexlan: What's the purpose of a sword?
I have a gun, I haven't killed anyone. I used it for target practicing and go to the range often. I keep it in case anyone is stupid enough to break into my home.

Your point?
Christianity EtcRe: Crucified Again -exposing Islams New War On Christians by alexis(op): 10:54am On Sep 17, 2013
lanrexlan: Just passing by,I am not here for a hot argument with you.In between,how're you?
I am fine mate - I always enjoy debating with you. You seem "some-what" reasonable smiley. How were your exams?
Christianity EtcRe: Crucified Again -exposing Islams New War On Christians by alexis(op): 10:35am On Sep 17, 2013
dareabiola98: I need a reply to this please.Its taking longer than I expected..Do u condemn these acts of Mosses?..Yes or NO...no qoutes!!!
Do you condemn the killing of Fatimah was was torn in two by Mohammad?
Christianity EtcRe: Crucified Again -exposing Islams New War On Christians by alexis(op): 10:26am On Sep 17, 2013
dareabiola98: Now let's ask ourself...Who started building weapon of mass destruction? CHRISTIANS. Who were the first to use it? CHRISTIANS. Who started the World wars which claimed over 100million souls,and more that 20million died of post war sicknessed...That was the most horiffic massacre in the history of this world..And it was all thanks to ADOLF HITLER...lat year...homeland security of the US,stated that 90%+ of the terrorist attacks in the state was carried out by christians,And I do not need to state the Torment of Andalusia on Muslims..help at gunpoint and burnt alive if they didn't accept the catholics...A christian mayor was arraingned last year for blowing up a church with 63 people in it,I weep when I remember the horrors faced by muslims in south africa(early)...All these I'm stating not to discredit anybody's religion but to show that the acts of 1 man or 2 or 3 doesn't define a religion....What if I say Adolf hitler killled all those people...Following the instruction from the bible: 'Kill evryone who doesn't believe in the lord of Israel'
Another off the topic discussion - do you know how to debate at all. Read the thread again and come back smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Crucified Again -exposing Islams New War On Christians by alexis(op): 10:26am On Sep 17, 2013
dareabiola98: Islam doesn't support terrorism!!!...But if people are doing it as they claim,that's out of context...the other day when over 300 muslims were killed in yobe(in a week,scool chilldrean amongst them)...no one heard of the News,it was like it never happened...the 1 of the mosque raid where 50+ were killed was not even broadcasted..I read in the paper 'Shekau might be dead'...Now I read the the whole context and I saw that,they raided a mosque and killed 50people claiming they were looking for shekau,what happened in iraq is happening here..I used to believe the boko haram story until I got wiser,The people of other religions are in control of the media,they won't tell the truth if they Find it.
Rolling on the floor laughing. Here are muslims students in Gombe that killed an innocent woman because she touched the Quran when they were cheating and hiding their answers in the Quran:

https://www.nairaland.com/46741/gombe-muslim-students-put-me/1

Dude, if you want me to narrate the life of Mohammad, I will be glad to. I am not saying all muslims are terrorist or bad people. However, I am saying the Quran/Hadith provides legal justification of violence
Christianity EtcRe: Crucified Again -exposing Islams New War On Christians by alexis(op): 10:20am On Sep 17, 2013
dareabiola98: LET ME EDUCATE YOU ON ISLAMIC JIHAD
This thread is not about Islamic Jihad, I have addressed that on other threads smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Crucified Again -exposing Islams New War On Christians by alexis(op): 10:19am On Sep 17, 2013
dareabiola98: Muslims have been explaining the verse u've qouted...Please explain these. 1."All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman.  (From the NIV Bible, 2 Chronicles 15:13)".

2. Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.  (Numbers 31:17-18)"

Now what crime did the innocent children and non-virgin women commit in order for them to get killed? We answered ur claims but U didn't want to hear,so defend urs if u r truthful...NO STORIES....NOTE: Discreditting this act is discreditting moses,and discrediting moses as stated by jesus will not grant you the kingdom
I don't have to explain anything to you - I asked you simple question "If a muslim leaves Islam - what happens to him, you didn't answer me". You are here talking about old story grin
Christianity EtcRe: Crucified Again -exposing Islams New War On Christians by alexis(op): 10:17am On Sep 17, 2013
lanrexlan: Luke 22:36-38 (NIV) -He said to them,But now if you have a purse,take it,and also a bag;and if you don't have a sword,sell your cloak and buy one.
It is written:And he was numbered with the transgressors;and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me.Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment."
The disciples said, See Lord,here are two swords.That is enough,he replied.

Luke 12:51-53 (NIV) -Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No,I tell you, but division.From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three.They will be divided, father against son and son against father,mother against daughter and daughter against mother,mother- in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.[/color].Then John hid everything Christ did under the pretence of lack of space[John 21:25]
So, where in those scripture did Jesus kill anyone? grin

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