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Otseh: have u not heard that BH are not muslims. i suspect that people like you dat sponsor them to destroy Islam so that u have oportunity to run your rubbish mouth. u hate Islam, Islam hate u more.

If they are not muslims - who are they?

rawtruth: "Misguided muslims", living among the "guided" muslims and plotting mass murders..., which they carry out with impunity and run back to hide among the "guided" muslims... What a paradox!

Concerning your obvious appeal to the sentiment of muslims "from Lagos to Katsina", you can never "stir the souls" of Yoruba muslims with primitive and blind zeal, because their exposure to Western education has made the kind of Islam they practice different from the one practiced by most of the northern muslims. Don't ever dream that anything that is linked to Boko haram will ever "stir the souls" of a people as enlightened as the Yorubas, or other enlightened muslims.

Common sense prevails - 2 thumbs up!

alnaijiri: Make no mistake, the BH fighters are misguided and are committing unIslamic atrocities. But EVERY Nigerian Muslim, from Lagos to Katsina, must feel stirred to the soul by the violence that strikes our land. What was it to provoke Muslim youths to such barbarism. Was it a primal cry to defend Islam and our noble way of life passed on to us by our fathers but now under threat from the unspeakable filth of Nigerian (South-dominated) mainstream culture, a culture of wanton greed, of corruption, of adultery, of inhumanity, and above all of delusions.

Nobody is provoking anyone - killings in the name of Islam has been going on in Northern Nigeria LOOOOOOONG before Boko Hara came on the scene. No one is forcing any culture down your neck - are they?

stjudas: Allahu akbar...... Allah may u guide ur own as they fight against those who fight against Islam. Thanks for protecting ur mosque.

Who is fighting Islam here? Can you tell us please

DevotedOne: Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim In The Name of Allah, The All Compassionate, The All Merciful. As salaamu alaykum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh; The peace be upon you, and The Mercy of Allah and HIS Blessings.

Salaam alexis. Please elaborate!

Wassalaam. DevotedOne

Based on your thread, what did you find out. What was your conclusion?

vedaxcool: Oga tinting I thruway salute! Well Done (saying it with a deep baritone voice) na so you they knock pikin for head abeg after you knock pikin you go try bring them closer pet them, Jesus is not God, neither is he the son of God neither did he perform miracles by his own powers both the bible and theQur'an confirms this, but would they listen?

Lo! I come unto you with a sign from your Lord. Lo! I fashion for you out of clay the likeness of a bird, and I breathe into it and it is a bird by Allah’s leave. I heal him who was born blind, and the leper, and I raise the dead, by Allah’s leave. And I announce to you what you eat and what you store up in your houses. Lo! herein verily is a portent for you if you are to be believers.
And (I come) confirming that which was before me of the Torah, and to make lawful some of that which was forbidden unto you. I come unto you with a sign from your Lord, so keep your duty to Allah and obey me. Lo! Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path. (Qur’an 3: 49-51).


tinting again I trouawy salutee!

Throw-way salute all you want - I have asked your brother tintingz, a very simple question based on what he CLAIMED and he hasn't been able to provide any PROOF from the very same Quran I quoted.

The test is not to prove that Jesus is God, but to prove that Jesus is not mortal from your own Quran. I stated the Quran when it said Jesus made a living Bird out of clay. This wasn't my claim but A CLAIM FROM THE QURAN - if I am wrong, please correct me. The point is not weather Jesus did it with the help of Allah or not but the fact that JESUS CREATED A LIVING CREATURE. My point was - there is no MORTAL man (including all the prophets), living or dead that has been able to create a living creature expect God. So, only Jesus was able to . Again, this is from your own Quran. Mohammed wasn't able to even though you claim he was the last prophet

Tintingz replied with the following:

No sir... For Jesus(as) to create a bird does still make him mortal cuz before he did he make sure the people know he didnt do it by his own power and authority, he clear their mind that he is not God but worship God and he is not the first person to perform miracle nor the last.

If other prophets of God could perform miracles then they should all be call God....but each prophet make it known to the people that their miracles is by God will and power.

Tintingz claimed other "prophets" was able to CREATE LIVING BEINGS just the way the Quran said Jesus did, whether with the power of Allah or not. [size=16pt]YET, HE HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO TELL ME FROM THE QURAN THE OTHER PROPHETS THAT WERE ABLE TO CREATE ANY LIVING THING[/size].

That is the question I have asked so far. ALL I AM ASKING IS THAT HE PROVIDES PROOF OF THE "PROPHETS" THAT CREATED LIVING THINGS LIKE JESUS.

Of course other prophets performed miracles and we all know that God provides the power for them to perform those miracles. However, I don't know of any prophet that has the ability or that "God" gave the ability to create living things like Jesus. SO, PLEASE ASK tintingz to provide proof to back us his claim of other prophets that performed the created living things. If he is honest that is

I CHALLENGE ANY [size=14pt]MUSLIM ON NAIRALAND[/size] TO PROVIDE ONE PROPHET THAT HAS THE ABILITY TO CREATE ANY LIVING THING LIKE JESUS. Show me only ONE prophet from your Quran. If you can't find any in the Quran, you can use the Bible and since you guys claim the Bible is corrupt, please tell us the un-corrupted Bible you use when you provide your answer

tintingz: Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

= DO NOT GO AGAINST GOD'S WORD!!... JESUS IS A MAN GOD IS NOT A MAN

Omo, tintingz; we are still waiting for:

1. What prophet(s) was/able to create a living being like you claimed
2. Your source (one which we can verify) that Mary was 9 years old.

If you can't provide the evidence to back-up your claim - then SHUT UP.

Only God has the power of creation, if Jesus can create a living being, what does that make HIM?

tintingz: Jesus said it in bible - John 8:28 i do nothing of Myself, cant God do anything he wills...

I dont argue blindly and for arguement sake... DONT GO AGAINST JESUS WORDS!!

lol, I haven't even brought in the Bible yet. My claim and evidence so far has been from the Quran. Once I start with the evidence from the Bible, you will have to consult with your Pakistani Imams . Again, I will ask you - please tell me any other prophet that has created a living being apart from Jesus. You CLAIMED THAT OTHER PROPHETS DID MIRACLES YET YOU CAN'T TELL ME SINGLE PROPHET THAT HAS CREATED A LIVING BEING.

In your haste to defend your Quran, you shot yourself in the foot. PLEASE TELL ME WHICH PROPHET HAS EVER CREATED A LIVING BEING. We all know Jesus did it because your Quran said so.

So far, we know that no mortal man can crate a living being.

Secondly, you are quoting John 8:28 but refused to type the entire verse - "Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.". If you really wanted to know the true meaning of Jesus deity you should have kept reading the entire Chapter but you were too impatient and ran off to your Islamic websites to defend your Quran . Also, the term Son of Man is used as an expression of the Messiah

Look at John 8:58 = "Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am". The same Jews were wanted to know if Jesus was greater than Abraham because the Jews hold Abraham in high regard. Jesus told them, before Abraham, I was. This proves that Jesus was not a mortal man.

Read John 10:30 "I and the Father are one."

We need to give you some Bible education mate . Stop wasting your time on anti-christian websites just to support your Quran

I still dey wait for the prophets that created a living being and proof that Mary was 9 oh

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The two muslims brother Dzohkar Tsarnaev and Tarmalan Tsarnaev are d suspects bt after a gun shoot out wit d police his broda Tarmalan died and 19 year old Dzorkar was found in a boat injured and was brought out by hostage team of d FBI.
The Muslims won't realise how much Islam had caused them. Those two brodas ar frm d chechen ethnicity. Is this also anoda way of Aliyu telling people that Muslims dnt kill unnecessary. Its clear d bomb was 4 religous reasons., Obama statement says it all.
Islam is nt jst a religion. Any religion that baths on blood of innocent people is devilish.

I was praying they shouldn't be muslims BUT ..................... Allah had other plans

tintingz: you cover your eyes read my post ni? Did i said nobody didnt believe in messiah in OT bible? I slashed some of your listed messiac prophecy non of those are written in OT bible nor the jews believe in those

I said according to the Jews the messiah will be king of their land and lead wars to victory... Since the Quran confirm Jesus(as) as the messiah of isrealites no arguement with that, the problem is that both Judaism and christianity believe in Old testament scriptures how come the jews disbelieved in Jesus(as)

Because it was prophecized that they will not believe Him. Mind you, there were Jews that believed in Jesus as well. Nicodemus was one of them. There were many Jewish Christians in the early church. So, your point is easily dis-armed mate

Cha Cha Cha Cha! Oga tintingz, have you had your ogi and akara this morning?

Your Quran said Jesus was the only one that CREATED a living being (A bird from clay). You claimed other prophets have done it. I ASKED YOU TO TELL US WHO THE PROPHETS WERE. You haven't answered me - all you have said is other prophets performed miracles. From your Quran, which prophet dead or alive has created a living being apart from Jesus? PLEASE ANSWER ME BROS

What has Quran 5:116-117 got to do with the question I asked you. Please show me from your Quran, which prophet has every created a living being. PLEASE DON'T EMBARRASS YOURSELF, if you don't know - be honest. Infact, which prophet in your Quran ever performed ONE MIRACLE? Name only one!

While you are figuring that out - please PROVIDE EVIDENCE TO BACK UP YOUR CLAIM THAT MARY WAS 9 OR WAS A CHILD WHEN Joseph married her.

Chukskalidon: Its true bro but u av to knw dat d spirit of Allah is very powerful. He steps on d numerous bloods that's being shed for him everyday to get even more powerful. I can upload a testimony given by one Shuabu, a converted Islam., u guys must av heard abt it. To c how hard it is for a converted muslim to survive. Is either u're made to run mad or ur own friends turn against u to kill u. Shuabu's father sent his own brother's to kill him after they decided they dnt want to c their broda in d streets mad.
Dnt we av freedom of worship in d country. Muslims ar in bondage, Devilish bondage. The quaran gave an ultimatum that any muslim on d verge of leaving d religion should b killed instantly or else, he expose d secret behind Islam.

I agree with you. One of the main reasons such 6th century actions are allowed to happen is because the government can't protect it's people. Such acts will never happen in the West and if it does, the culprits will face the rule of law. As Christians, we have to commit the lives of our muslims brothers in the hand of God and pray for them. I have seen Islam for what it is - I WILL NEVER BE FOOLED.

So, when it is time to pray, we pray. When it is time to be tough, be tough . Violence is not a monopoly for only one religion. Jesus Christ told us to be harmless as Doves but wise as serpents. Christians are too valuable a people to be KILLED & SACRIFICED and we do nothing about it. While we loathe war; we had to defeat Hitler the lover of war.

When the US hunted for Osama and all his leaders - they didn't use dialog; they used force. There is a time to dialog and there is a time to be serious. You can't dialog with a person that wants to kill you - it doesn't make sense.

The Islamic militants in Mali were pushed out with a military campaign, sometimes, that is the only language they understand. So, while the NL muslims are shouting that Islam is peaceful, we will debate with them. If their brothers elsewhere bring out guns and bombs, we deal with them accordingly.

tintingz: non of those is not in the OT bible nor the jewish believe about the messiah...according to the jews the messiah will be king and also lead them in wars... I dont have to post much cuz the Quran called Jesus(as) the messiah who God sent to the isrealites.

So, nobody in the OT believed in the Messiah abi? Gosh - you are so deluded it's pitiful.

1. Please give me one proof fromthe OT that they didn't believe in a Messiah

NO i am not a catholic and i have said it to you in other thread that Mary was a little girl when she married Joseph thats the jewish costum you cant change the history, the talmud even allow men to marry 3 year old baby Lolz . Lets not go into that again cuz you know all this already

Dude - where is your proof? Send me a Catholic reference where I can read she was a little girl when she got married. Show me in the Bible - provide some kind of EVIDENCE.

No sir... For Jesus(as) to create a bird doesnt still make him mortal cuz before he did he make sure the people know he didnt do it by his own power and authority, he clear their mind that he is not God but worship God and he is not the first person to perform miracle nor the last. Lolz ponder over what again sir

Which other person has created any living thing that you know. Since you said Jesus is not the first person to do it - please tell me another human being that has created a living creature apart from God.

tintingz: Lolz if you insist on this the GOD of the Old testament bible is different from the New testament... Or you want tell God change his mind after he said every one shall die for his own sin

Judaism(Jesus is not the missiah) and christianity(he is the messiah) must be serving same God

What in the world are you talking about? There are over 100 prophecies in the Old Testament that gave the characteristics of the Messiah, written hundreds of years before the arrival of Jesus. These prophecies describe the circumstances of His birth, ministry, and death. For example, in the OT, the following prophecies were told long before Jesus came:

1. His lineage
2. Where he will be Born
3. When and where He was born
4. He will be a shepherd to His people
5. He will be anointed and eternal
6. To be born of a virgin
7. blind, deaf, and lame are healed by the Messiah
8. rejected by His own people, the Jews
9. betrayed by a close friend
10. betrayed for thirty pieces of silver
11. crucified with malefactors
12. pierced through hands and feet
13. soldiers gambled for His clothing
14. to be resurrected

Now, who did all this happened to? If you are still waiting for another Messiah, keep waiting. Jesus fulfilled all these prophecies in the OT. Again, read history my friend. You can deny the deity of Jesus all you want; it doesn't change anything

Your prophet couldn't save himself when he was poisoned. He on the other hand was a mere mortal. A prophet that didn't perform one single miracle.

The thing is that you don't read your Quran. I don't blame you for it. Allah has abrogated so many of the things he said, you don't know which is which . Cha Cha Cha!

tintingz: The catholics agreed on Mary(as) being a little girl when she got married to Joseph the capenter, we have debate on this in other threads... And i still dont get it If Jesus is God why was he praying to God to save him from death?
BTW there are many sons of Jehova in OT bible how come Jesus(as) was the only son of God when God in OT bible said he is not a man nor a son of man when Jesus(as) called himself son of man several times in the bible.

Are you a catholic - were is reference to your CLAIM tintingz. Show us the Catholic proof where Mary was a "little" girl. We have proof from Aisha herself that she was a child of 6 years old when a man over 50 years old married her. He slept with her when she was 9, he was old enough to be her grand father. Not only that, he forbid his wives to re-marry after he died? So, it wasn't enough to marry a child but she was forced not to marry after he died - BONDAGE INDEED. I am still waiting for your Catholic proof oh. If you can't provide one - say you can't and put your tails between your legs and learn to backup your claims whenever you make one. That is what people with integrity do. So far, you have lied to score points - but it back-fired on you.

I have one simple proof from your Quran that Jesus is not a mortal man. Are you ready?

Your Quran AUTHORITATIVELY state that Jesus made a living bird from Clay.

Now, let me ask you

- Apart from God, who else has the power to give life and create things?
- Apart from God who else is a Creator?
- Can a mortal man create a living creature?

Ponder over that and let us have your answer?

maclatunji: @peteregwu, grow up son. You that don't understand your left from right is preaching to moi. "The God of Muslim?". Even if that is what you were taught, you could not use your own reasoning to deduce that there can't be 2 different Gods?

Of course not, you are a follower who knows nothing more than he has been taught.

If Christians and muslims serve the same God then why do some muslims find it hard to live in peace with others. Why bomb and kill others just because they are not muslims? If we serve the same God then why is it a crime to read a Bible in Saudi Arabia? If we serve the same God, then why do muslims deny the deity of Jesus Christ?

How can Allah be the God of Christians when he contradict himself so much in your Quran. How can Christians serve a God like that who isn't consistent. He reveals something to his prophet and almost immediately abrogate it with something else. How can the God in the Quran not figure out how many days He created the world?

We can't serve a God that changes his mind all the time and was always there to approve of everything his prophet did no matter how terrible it was. Go figure!

maclatunji: You are turning out to be a joke quite frankly. You don't need me to confirm anything, just post your knowledge. If I want to post about Christianity, I post whatever I want to post and that is it. Whoever wants to take me on can then do so.

Asking questions means I am turning out to be a Joke. So much for intelligent conversations. Oga, you can correct me if I am wrong. If the Surah I quoted from the Quran is wrong, then say it. All I am asking is for you to correct me.

maclatunji: LOL, you can quote whatever you like, you don't need to bother about how I will respond. Post whatever you think you know.

What I think I know, you are funny. You think you are the only one that read the Quran or the Hadith?

Surah Al-An'am (The Cattle) 6:101 = The Creator of the heavens and the earth, how can he have a son, when He hath no consort. He created all things and he is all knowing.

If the Surah above is not the basis why you deny Jesus deity, then please correct me.

peteregwu: i understand bro. but u see this muslims, believe me, it takes the grace of God for them to believe. its like to them, they dont have a choice but to remain a muslim, even if they know the truth. the religion is like one in bondage. believe me. and sometimes, when they realise the truth in Jesus, they still remain a muslim because they are afraid to leave their religion. this is because, either they get killed or they are made mad by their fellow muslim brothers even their blood brothers. i could remember a woman, alhaja spoke to one of our house leader in fellowship, she said, "i love your church and i would like to join you.." our leader told her, "my sister u are free to join, come along God is waiting for u." the woman said, "it is impossible my husband will kill me." do you see the level of bondage? they are filled with fear. tell me what do i gain to be a muslim? absolutely nothing. no supernatural experience, nothing, the whole thing is just empy barrel. is like pouring water in a basket.

It is not our job to convert anyone, everyone has a free-will to worship whosoever and whatsoever they wish. If you believe in a stone - that is fine; just don't throw it at me and tell me I didn't mean it.

We are instructed to teach the gospel so no one will give an excuse and say, they didn't hear about it. The conversion and conviction of a person is done by the Holy Spirit of God. However, it's important we expose lies no matter in whose background it is in.

peteregwu: its like u havent read what i posted from the bible earlier that Jesus is God and u are saying He is mortal. the bible says, "He is the word of God made flesh." John 1:1-3. and even your quaran says He is sinless. so how can a sinless man be mortal. hav u ever seen a man without one sin? never, it is impossible. so, mr man Jesus is God, even the angels worship Him. or do u need quotation for that also.?

Our Muslim Brothers deny the deity of Jesus Christ and the reason they do is that the Quran says so. For some reason, they believe God had sexual relations with a woman, which resulted in the birth of a son. Here is the Surah Al-An'am (The Cattle) 6:101

The Creator of the heavens and the earth, how can he have a son, when He hath no consort. He created all things and he is all knowing

This verse carries the accusation that Christians have added a partner to God. As I stated above, they assume that Christians teach God had sexual relation with a woman that resulted in the birth of a son. WHAT A GROSS & DISGUSTING MISUNDERSTANDING, AND WHAT AN ATROCIOUS ASSUMPTION AGAINST CHRISTIANS.

I want maclatunji to confirm the questions I asked so I can show him from his Quran and from the Bible (which predates) the Quran that Christians worship ONE GOD. We can only help our muslim brothers understand by educating them with the truth and with evidence FIRST from their Quran and then from the Bible

maclatunji: Mr. man I don't have time for your fun and games.

If they are accurate, say YES, if NOT - say NO. Which one is fun and games inside that one?

tintingz: Jesus(as) cried to God to save him from death... And you call that God??

Omo, hold your lips and keep mute - You have nothing to contribute to this discussion. You tried to tie Jesus to violence, in the process, shot yourself in the foot. You claimed Mary was 9 yet haven't provided any evidence.

How am I to take you serious?

maclatunji: I am saying that Jesus (AS) is mortal from the Bible and Qur'an.

Thanks, I appreciate your answer. To pin-point what you are saying:

1. You are denying He is God from the Bible because He said: "My God, My God Why has Thou forsaken Me"
2. You are denying He is God from the Quran because "The Quran said so"

Are my statements accurate?

maclatunji: Nope, why would Seun refer to anybody else as owner of Nairaland when he is the only owner? Why would Jesus (AS) talk about a third party being God if he is the single God?

Dude, it's a simple question. I want to know the source that tells you He is mortal. Are you claiming it's from the Bible or it's from somewhere else? Once you answer my question, then I can address you.

I know you will DENY the deity of Jesus Christ - all muslims do, I want to know WHY you deny it. Please be kind to tell me the REASON

maclatunji: Even this your statement is proof if you have insight.

It's a simple yes or no question. Also, you are saying that He is mortal because He has a Father abi?

BetaThings: Jesus was a mortal too
"Father, let this cup pass me by
My God, My God, why has thous forsaken me?"

So, your proof that He is mortal is because He called God His Father?

But the states make up the country. If only one state has it on its books, it means anyone, anyone can be lawfully executed within that state for capital offences. The Supreme Court will not interfere
Even the "stand-your-ground" law allows lawful killing by individuals
The Christian foundation would be there given its history but it is fast being eroded
A supporter of g.a.y marriage won election to the highest office

No no no - you are missing the point. A state might have the right to death penalty but it's a jury that decides whether the accused will die depending on the evidence. I agree that secular laws are wide-spread in the US, I wasn't debating that all US laws are motivated by Christian values. If it were, a gay person wouldn't hold office. Still, in most States, they don't recognize gay couples and gay marriage because of the definition of marriage. So, while Americans are testing the limits of freedom, most of the laws are secular and some are Christian oriented. For example, the right to practice your religion without persecution. Can we say that in Northern Nigeria? Or in Sudan?

Isolated? A matter being debated even at the House of Assembly?
http://www.punchng.com/metro/outrage-as-principal-flogs-pupil-for-wearing-hijab/
There are more. You will notice that this is targeted at Muslims. The example of no public show of affection is non-discriminatory - it affects both muslims and christians

You got me confused, I reckon you were referring to a case in the US and not Nigeria. I think such case can easily be handled by the laws of the local government or State. Without knowing the details, I can't say authoritatively what the judgement should be. That been said, Nigeria is a secular country and everyone should upload their religious beliefs without discrimination or harassment.

There are several
Please use google
Like I said, societies evolve

If they are still residing in Saudi Arabia after their conversion, I am having difficulty finding them. Can you help out

BetaThings

You are one of the few Muslims that have my respect when it comes to condemning violence, suicide bombings and other atrocities committed in the name of God. 5 GBOSA out to you - GBOSA GBOSA GBOSA GBOSA GBOSA.

I like the fact that you are objective .

BetaThings: I don't need to tell any sunni that suicide bombing is haram
It is well established
Shia first claimed that they don't do suicide bombing
When evidence is produced that it is a lie, they now say that it is a halal military strategy
You keep shifting your position


Of course you do
Why do you say Ya Ali Madad
Somebody that is dead in his grave
Here are people posting letters to some Imam dwelling in a well (of all places!), asking (ASKING) the dead by phone from
Sunnis say Khidr control the world? Where? Some sunnis don't even agree he is a prophet
Now Shirk is a sin? When did Shia creed change to recognise as shirk the practice of beseeching human beings or equating some men in some caves to Allah

WOW - And we are to believe the Quran was written before the creation of the world. Cha! Cha! Cha! Cha!

BetaThings: I don't agree with Rafidi. That is hair splitting. And it opens the door to suicidal strategies.
I am not a Japanese. I don't believe in strapping a bomb to oneself either during a war or while visiting a church
So that Beirut bombing by Hezbollah supported by Iran is a sin
Just like Boko Haram's acts



I don't pray to anyone beside Allah
You invoke Ali (RA) for help. That is much more Christian-like!

You guys are funny - see muslims calling themselves Christians because of the contradictions in their history. Cha! Cha! Cha!

DevotedOne: Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim In The Name of Allah, The All Compassionate, The All Merciful. As salaamu alaykum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh; The peace be upon you, and The Mercy of Allah and HIS Blessings.


I recently began reading the book 'Islam In The Bible' and although I cannot come to terms with some of the descriptions regarding Islam or Christianity, I respect the author for his honesty. It's a challenging read.

http://www.al-islam.org/islaminthebible/index.htm Islam In The Bible by Thomas McElwain

Wassalaam. DevotedOne

Oga DevotedOne, weting you dey talk?