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hayubee: @alexis like I said in my post earlier. Judge me not my religion so wat bh is doing is no wat we we're asked 2 do, der only misunderstandin. D Quran islam is peace is swear with my life! D reason y ppl have c islam as a religion of violence is cos of d way d media portrays islam bt islam is not as seen on tv. Afta 9/11 d u s invaded iraq nd pakistan d u s army killed over 100k civilian in iraq nd pakistan wit no evidence 2 show dy ar terrorist wen only at most 10k was killed in9/11 how many ppl no of dis? Cos d bbc nd co won't show dat tanks 2 al jazeera nd wikilweaks d meadia makes us c wat dy want us 2! Secondly cos an average persn believes wat he sees on t v p.s I if osama truely did d 9/11 attack he is a shame 2 islam nd humanity

I am judging your religion based on what is taught in the Quran and the Hadith? If you think all I know about Islam is from the television, then you don't know me. Some of us read the Quran by friend, not only that - we read the Hadith as well (Surprised?).

Who attacked America on 9/11? Was it Russia? Was it North Korea? Your Muslim brothers picked a fight? They killed over 3000 innocent Americans. They are doing it in Northern Nigeria as we speak, they are doing it in Mali. I will leave it to you to state what they motivation was - Hint: Allah is involved

So you think the can attack America with no REPERCUSSION? Muslims (Osama & his Muhejadeen) started the fight, they picked the war, - Afganistan, Pakistan, Yemen are the after effects of that war. So, stop complaining and crying foul as if Muslims had nothing to do with it.

tintingz: i have provide you your answer what else do you want me to post?

We all know you are the copy and paste King, I didn't expect anything more. Thanks for the attempt though

Surjman: .....tanx for d verses.surah 2(bakarah) vs 216 stated dat fighting is obligatory but did it mension fighting of innocent people........surah 4(an-Nisa) vs 74 as quoted,let dos hu fyt in d way of Allah......dos killing innocent citizens,children,women n unarmed citizens justifies fytin in the name of Allah?also d last part of d verse mentioned,b he slain or victorious.....dos suicide bombin incate u been slain?we all know a suicide bomber killed himself n nt slained.dos killing d innocent makes u victorious?dis questions are for u to ansa

Surah 2:216 = It didn't mention fighting innocent people. Perhaps it should have to clarify that innocent people shouldn't be killed. You are proving my point. The author of the Quran should had made it clear on who should be fought and who shouldn't. It should have stated in what situation you should fight - defensive or offensive. Since it didn't, it gives justification to the reader to interpret it how they see fit.

Not only does this verse (Surah 2:216) establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.

Surah 4:74 = Why did the author of the Quran leave the interpretation for you to explain to me. Why didn't the writer of the Quran explained everything from jump-start. I am not confused on the interpretation on this verse. Boko Haram, Ansaru, the Islamist in Mali and numerous others are the ones you should be addressing this question to.

Because the Quran didn't make it clear who should be KILLED, it gives a platform of justification to the person reading these verses to interpret it however they want.

Here is another one

Surah 4:95 "Not equal are those believers who sit at (at home) and receive no hurt and those who strive and fight in the cause of God with their goods and their persons. God hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than those who sit (at home).

There are so many verses on VIOLENCE that you can't possibly tell me what the author meant. Why didn't he make it clear what he meant?

tintingz: ^^ read above...

The question is to you mate, you can answer it or not. The burden of explanation is on you, not on me.

tintingz: Your questions have been answered in many thread, here is one...

The True Meaning Of Jihad
http://nairaland.com/1177382/true-meaning-jihad

The arabic word "Jihad" means a struggle or striving and applies to any great effort on the personal and social level. It is striving to do good and remove injustice
and evil from oneself and the
society.

So you are saying Jihad is personal. For example, striving to be a better person? Are there any other forms of Jihad?

hayubee: @alexis fighting 4 Allah in wat sense Allah dose no ask us 2 fight unless we ar being oppressed I.e stoped u from goin 2 masjid nd readin d quran dat wen u can fight for Allah

Is Boko Haram being oppressed when they BOMB churches and kill Christians? Remember, that the word "fighting" is a verb - an action verb, it is offensive and not defensive.

If someone attacks my home and wants to steal, kill and hurt by family. It makes perfect sense to defend myself. So, defensive Jihad is acceptable. However, attacking and killing innocent people can't be classified as oppression when the victims didn't attack you. That is why I said, some of the verses in the Quran justifies violence because the author of the Quran should have made it clear what those verses meant. Aside that, there are numerous verses in the Quran that talks about violence but leaves it to the reader to decide if it is defensive or offensive.

Surjman: .....u just mentioned for me dat we back our arguments up with facts.also,i read u said dat,they perform dia act cus d Quran justifies it.CAN U PLS TELL ME WHERE U SAW IT IN D QURAN DAT IT IS BIN JUSTIFIED?or u hea dem sayin it.look,so many have lied in d name of religion to perform dia evil deeds.i remember a pastor in Nigeria dis year said God directed him to open a gay church.just bcus i am muslim doesnt give a yardstick dat it is true or cus he said God directed him.i know my fact dat even in d bible,dat was wat made God destroyed d pple of LUT.d problem with many christains is ignorance n programmed mind like dat of a computer when it coms to islam

You asked me to show you in the Quran where VIOLENCE is justified right?

Surah 2:216 - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."

Please don't tell me I am quoting out of context because I know the corresponding Hadith this verse was referring to. But I will allow you answer.

Surah 4:74 - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."

I have shown you only 2 verses from the Quran that JUSTIFIES VIOLENCE.

maclatunji: Ogbeni, you are such a big disappointment. Would you learn how to play defensive football from Barcelona? Or how Capitalism works from Fidel Castro or how to operate a television station from Radio Nigeria? If you wouldn't, then why do you seek to learn about Islam from people whose aim is antithetical to our religion. It should be common sense.

"He has read a book" written by who? #LOL

Most people are learning about Islam from the actions of Muslims especially when it comes to violence. Boko Haram and Ansaru are muslims - are they not. Prophet Muhammed was the prime example of the life of a muslim, was he not? Your Quran is the AUTHORITATIVE source on the subject of Jihad and dealing with people from other faiths - is it not?

So tell us, dose the Quran justify the actions of muslims such as BH and Ansaru?

abdullone: this our sentiment is leading us no where..i wonder wat u guyz want us to do again bringing up wrong quotes saying its from quran and forming up lies abt xtians been killed.....what happen to the xtian guy dat dress in malo clothes to burn down a church in delta..how abt the mr john dat was caugth in radio hows tryin to place a bomb during the ministerial briefing....u wil continue to hate islam n it will kip growing....its has been said in the holy quran"see the canot see hear the canot hear" and so shall u remain enemies of islam

When you post, you back it up otherwise people will see that you are talking empty. Please back up what you said with reference. We all know BH is an Islamic organization - we know they kill both Muslims and Christians. We know they burn churches and slit innocent people throat. That is a FACT. We know they have basis of doing this because the Quran justifies it. I am willing to prove everything I have said if you first do the same with the statements you made above.

tintingz: you need to know the meaning of Jihad...

Please teach us the meaning of Jihad with references from the Quran and Hadith so we can understand

Chukskalidon: Once again I av to say this: Theology on its own can never stand. D bible is not meant for literal understanding and interpretation becos its a combination of doctrines(let me knw if am wrong). D jewish, Greek and little Italian traditions made up d bible. We av scripturists and they ar nt that by mere studies or arguments. To b a scripturist u must first spend atleast 5 years in jewish land, learn their language and tradition becos anytin dat God says in d old testament is in relation wit d jewish tradition and dats a reasn 4 dat. After that u spend anoda years in Greek(d modern bible) and crown it all with Italian tradition. This is how scripturists gain their stand.
When Jesus did not ask u to honour and ask for intercessions 2ru his mother., did he ask u to instruct people nt to ask his mother for intercessions. Dis is it, most of us are ignorant of d bible. Okay, it was written in d bible dat every one shall call mary blessed. Seeing ur position wit d bible hav u and ur pentecostal brodas and pastors fulfilled dat or Was it nt in d bible? Have for a day called her blessed.
Even if am nt a catholic, I bliv in catholism. It is pure xtianity and high regard for tradition. We are nt God so we shouldn't fight for mary, its in God's hand to fight for her mother which he does everyday but u dnt av to boldly talk negatively abt her since also u're nt God. I wil neva think twice abt mary and a good xtian won't do dat. As a christian, u shuld call her 'blessed' and wen u dnt do dat, u av no regard for God.
D doctrines of catholicm is unquestionable cos its nt man made.

When you make claims, you should learn to back them up (With Scripture - The Bible). From the Bible, we learn the following:

1. Mary was a human being like you or me.
2. Born of a man and a woman, sinful. The Bible says - For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Mary was no different
3. Mary admitted she needed a Saviour - Luke 1:47 = If she was holy and sinless, why would she need a Savior?
4. Under the Jewish law, she offered "sin" offering in obedience - Luke 2: 24
5. She saw the birth, death and crucifixion of her Son. He shed his precious blood for the sins of the whole world INCLUDING Mary his mother.

So, when Catholics bow down to statues of Mary and venerate her - we ask, where in the Bible was that taught? This is a clear disobedience to Gods World in Exodus 20:4 & 5 - Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me

So, it's either Catholics got this doctrine of veneration of Mary from elsewhere but definitely not from the Bible. The Bible says ALL things were made by Jesus and without Him was not anything made that was made - John 1:3.

Jesus is Divine. Mary is a human being - she was a chosen vessel to bring Him forth in the form of man. So, how can you be venerating and worshiping the CREATION INSTEAD OF THE CREATOR

Most importantly, the Bible says - For there is one God and ONE mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus - 1 Timothy 2:5. So, when Catholics pray to Mary i.e. "Hail Mary, mother of God, pray for us sinners ........." That action of veneration is not biblical and is not in the Bible. Ask your Catholic Priest, Bishop and write the pope and ask him where you guys got the doctrine of doing such from - IT IS NOT FROM THE BIBLE.

Also, where in the Bible are we taught to make confessions to a priest? I CHALLENGE YOU TO PROVE THAT THIS DOCTRINE IS IN THE BIBLE..

I have backed up my statements with facts from the Bible, I ask you to do the same.

maclatunji: ^From Islam's perspective, the Crucifixion never happened and there is no way that is an insult.

Point of correction, The Quran said it APPEARED that Jesus died by crucifixion. It never said it didn't happened. The author of the Quran denies it. The Quran says it appeared that Jesus died by crucifixion but Jesus did not, while the Bible says it appeared that Jesus died by crucifixion because he did. Muslims and the Christians have common ground in that both agree that it appeared that Jesus died by crucifixion

The author of the Quran saying the core foundation of every Christian life is a fraud? You think that is not insulting? Jesus was bodily seen by MANY witnesses. To confirm he wasn't a ghost, He ate with them (for a ghost doesn't eat). He stayed and ministered with them over a month and ascended into heaven. The author of the Quran came 600 years later and said that entire event was a fraud and all those witnesses must have been stupid because it "Only Seemeth so in their eyes". Yet you don't call that an insult?

Look at the implication - an unlearned and illiterate man (this is no insult, the prophet was an illiterate) came on the scene 600 years later, received a revelation all by himself and denied the crucifixion without providing ANY PROOF but you happily accept it because it was said in the Quran

italo: So the body of Jesus Christ can be confused about its head - Jesus himself? For some "Christians" say Jesus is God, other "Christians" say he is man. Is it possible for the body of Christ to teach millions of contradictory doctrines as we have among "christians" today?

Nope - the body of Christ can't be confused about it's head - the reason is that it's ONE body. If there are any teachings outside of the Bible, then those teachings are man-made, doctrines. Typical example, confession of your sin to a priest by Catholics - that is not a biblical teaching. That is a Catholic doctrine and isn't/wasn't taught by Jesus Christ.

vedaxcool: Well we know who the liar is, in his own version of Christianity admitting the truth is worse than condemning the devil, liars like this shame religion and every iota of truth and puritry
liar, you see why i said you are better advising your congo brothers to stop the rape a practice we read in the bible done by those victorious in battle, reconcile your Rwandan brothers (genocide repeatedly occur in the bible under the order of Yaweh, yeah blame that on muslims) and also the priest must stop the rape it is disgraceful! I will never stop telling you these until it occurs to you that hatred for muslims won't earn paradise neither will lies told repeatedtly make any difference

[size=18pt]While what is condemn able ohhhhhhhh![/size]. Geez - learn to call a spade a spade. Stop using cheap tactics to score points mate. When you said Catholic priests were molesting young boys - what was my response?

Catholic church - Where have you seen any Christian support the Catholic church when it comes to the atrocities some of their priests commit against young men? We speak against evil irrespective of who's background it is in. Christianity doesn't teach men to molest young boys; neither does it teach people to confess their sins to a priest - you WILL NEVER FIND SUCH IN THE BIBLE . The Catholic church has so many law suits against it for molestation.

Condemn the act, tell us that your Quran doesn't teach it or approve it. Tell us what your Quran teaches and educate your Muslim brothers in Pakistan. Rebuke them! Stop playing pretend

mekaboy: Who told you that? If u say u r without sin u lie. U did not read where paul said the does the things he is not suppose to do, and the things he is suppose to he does not.

We just have to try to avoid those things that bring us down. Watever stops us from having the confidence to say no to what is wrong.

It is not a matter of who said what - to put you at ease, let us see what the good book (The Bible says):

1. Be ye Holy, for I am Holy - 1 Peter 1:16
2. He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil - 1 John 3:8
3. Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away (old lying, stealing, cheating, 419, juju etc); behold, all things are become new - 2 Corinthians 5:17

So, what is the use of becoming a Christian if you will continue to sin? Why continue to lie, cheat, commit fornication, adultery etc. Why can't you just continue to do it without becoming a Christian.

Learn to read your Bible:

Romans 6:1-6 - What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection. Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin

Your point is taken from Romans 7:15. Read Romans 7 & 8 and see what the author was talking about and don't cherry pick some verses if you don't understand the theme of the message. The author gave a simple example. He said, if a woman is married to her husband, she is bound to him under the "Law" as long as he lives. So, she can't marry him and marry another man if her 1st husband is still alive - that was the "Law". Which law you might ask - the Law of Moses.

Now, if her husband dies, she becomes a widow and the contract of marriage is broken because of his death and she is free to marry again. However, if she marries again while her 1st husband is alive - she will be called an adulteress.

The author was using this as an analogy as a comparison between the "Law of Moses" & the grace of Jesus Christ. His message was to tell you that once you are a Christian, you are dead to sin. You are no more "married" to sin. It is impossible to be a true follower of Jesus Christ and continue in Sin except of course you were never a Christian in the first place.

The Bible says the wages of sin is death - it didn't say small sin or big sin or worldly sin or christian sin.

vedaxcool: Soon he would say mr. president all because he is begging for attention, keep it up! I know most christianas on Nl lie incessantly and all liars shall perish eventually, . . . evangelism by lies does not profit anybody even the liar that enges them;



https://www.nairaland.com/1220232/christian-homes-burnt-muslim-mobs#14709041

yet these silly liars have repeatedly lied upon my name because their religion failed them in being any better than a man with no religion, as typical you always expect follows of Paul to behave in such a way! I am far to high up to engage in your anxiety scream for relevance discuss! Hopefully your next post would say mr. president just to beg for attention

Where in that post is condemnation of the ACT by muslims in Pakistan to the house burning?. You talked about the state Pakistan is in. We all know the state Pakistan is in, we all know the State Northern Nigeria is in because of Islamic bigots. We don't need you telling us that.

Tell us your Religion teaches you not to kill others or burn their homes and places of worship because they share a different religious view.

italo: So where can we find this "body?"

Is it invisible and "unfindable" like a secret cult?

The body of Jesus Christ is basically all Christians. So, the Christians in Nigeria, Ghana, England, Ireland, America, Canada and around the world is the body. It is not a secret cult, it's a group of people that believe in Jesus Christ and his teachings.

italo: What is the Church?

The Church is Jesus Christ body. 1 Cor l2:l3,"by one Spirit we are all baptized into one body

mumumugu: mediator is christ. Mary is intercesor

And where is that in the Bible?

vedaxcool: I feel sorry for that dude that tries hard to get my attention, I have given the solutions to your anxiety, namely talk to brothers in congo, stop the rape, stop the violence against women, talk to ur rwanda brothers let the reconciliation flow, talk to catholic priest, the kids are our future . . . Your frustration is yours alone to bear not mine . . .

Oga, provide proof. How can you make a claim and not not back it up oooh! It's common tactic to go off topic and start accusing others of atrocities when the fire is in your own back-yard. The thread is about Muslims burning Christians homes but somehow Congo and Rwanda and Christians crept in there some-where. AGAIN, YOU HAVEN'T OPENED YOUR MOUTH TO CONDEMN YOUR BROTHERS IN PAKISTAN - YOU ARE HERE SHOUTING CONGO & RWANDA

The veneration of Mary is/was and will never be a Christian teaching. I CHALLENGE ANYONE TO PROVE OTHER-WISE.

For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Jesus Christ - 1 Timothy 2:5. I don't see where Mary was mentioned here.

chukwudi44: Where in the bible did God ask Oyedepo,Oyakhilome e.t.c to form churches

The church is not a building or physical structure. A little more research on your part would have told you that.

The Great Commission is a commandment from Jesus to his followers to teach and tell others what He taught them. It can be found in Matthew 28:18-20. I believe that is the answer to your question.

The question here should be:

1. Who is the author of the Quran
2. Who is/are the author of the Hadith(s)

Answering the above questions will help us tackle OP questions

What about wife beating? Does Islam permit a man to beat his wife? Is that a form of wife oppression?

MsDarkSkin: lol.

actually the UN/NWO is holding Nigeria back.

UN/NWO?

mekaboy: Mat 5:14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. What we are experiencing today in Nigeria is TOTAL DARKNESS COVERING THE NATION.

Why is this so? because the Christians are turning down their light. In the offices, the turn down their light and corruption grows.

The pastors turn down their light and preach about money while the souls of their members perish. we no longer evangelize and preach the good news of salvation.

Christians in the police and army turn down their light and take bribe, Christians in customs turn off their light and watch arms come into the country.

Christians in government turn down their light and take bribe. HOW COME WE WONDER WHY THERE IS SO MUCH EVIL IN NIGERIA?

This evil is a representation of DARKNESS. there is this saying that " if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem".

Nairaland Christians, is your light on in your office, school, home and street ?

What makes a person a Christian?

Who is a Christian?

If a person is a Christian, would he/she steal? Would they take bribe? Lie? Commit murder? Cheat? If you answer these questions honestly then you know who a Christian is.

A Christian is a person that obeys the teachings and life-style of Jesus Christ. If the person does other-wise: I don't see how you can call them a Christian. So, if a person talk the talk and don't walk the walk; obviously something is wrong. There is a change in a persons life when they become a Christian. The change is a change of good, not the same old things they used to do.

So, there is nothing Christian-like about stealing - a thief is a thief irrespective of his/her religious beliefs. The Bible doesn't teach anyone to steal so I can't see how you can say someone is a Christian and steals.

There is nothing new under the sun - the devil can masquerade himself as an angel of light. You have so called "pastors" that prey on the ignorance and vulnerability of innocent people. The Bible calls them "wolves in sheep clothing". Some pastors are more concern with how much it's members pay as their tithe and offering than the issue of sin and preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Judas Iscariot was one of the chosen 12 disciples yet he betrayed Jesus for money? If he was alive today, would you call him a Christian.

You have some "Catholics" priest that molest young men around the world - would you call such people Christians? At the same time, would you say Mother Theresa that helped the poor, preached the gospel, provided a platform to take people out of poverty etc wasn't a Christian because she was Catholic?

The yard stick is to use Jesus Christ as the litmus test. It is against His teachings and life that we can say if we are Christians or not. Once you are a Christian and accept Jesus and ask him to take over your life - do you know what happens? He provides salvation - Salvation is not only about saving you from sin but it is also about keeping you from sinning again.

So, how can you say you are a Christian if you keep doing the same things when you weren't a Christian? It makes no sense. I think most so called "Christians" are living in denial.

vedaxcool: Well from your actions in this thread there really is no significant difference between u two, I mean not having a clue about Rwanda and then posting crap confidently is a telling sign of one who is on a self imposed embargo on TVs at home!

The moderator deleted my post because he/she felt I was "insulting" Islam. It is only in Islam where free speech is hindered on a public forum, I wonder if Nairaland will soon turn to a Sharia forum. You must have been to Rwanda recently because the article you posted is 11 years old. Rwanda is a free country and anyone can decide to chose what religion or belief they subscribe to. In Northern Nigeria, your Muslim brothers are killing Christians (religious duty) because they want to establish sharia. Perhaps they can learn from Rwandans that anyone can choose their religion freely and worship whosoever/whatsoever they believe in without been bombed or having their throat slit.

You keep bringing up the r.a.pe in Congo and the killings in Rwanda are attributed to Christianity. You are yet to provide any logical evidence to back up your claim that these are religious events. It's like me claiming the killings of muslims by themselves in Syria and Iraq are religious.

1. Your Saudi (Wahabs & Sunnis) brothers are marginalizing Shias and Shittes in Saudi (Arresting them and torturing them) You don't see that one yet the only issue you see is in Rwanda and Congo.
2. Sadam invaded Kuwait, killed thousands of innocent people, his soldiers raped and killed people - did we claim it was a religious war and was done under the banner of Islam?.
3. Boko Haram & Ansaru are in Northern Nigeria killing their own Nigerians and foreigners all in the name of "God". You are yet to open your mouth and condemn these actions but you are quick to justify their actions by mentioning Rwanda and Congo.
4. Rebels attacked a sovereign country (Mali) and imposed Sharia law. The last time I checked, sharia law is Islamic religious law. They r.a.p.ed young girls, cut off people hands.
5. Next you will claim that MEND in Nigeria are Christians . They are only Christians when they are not muslims abi? You are so desperate to attribute violence to Christianity that is is laughable.

You are so blinded by your lack of reasoning that you can't see beyond your own face. There is a BIG difference when a conflict is POLITICAL and when it is RELIGIOUS. I keep trying to tell you the difference but when you deal with religious issues, you put your common sense in the dust-bin.

vedaxcool: Wow I can only say . . . abysmal display of intelligence, trying to rebut this incredible "intelligence" would amount to validating such abysmal intelligence . . . My advice to you, go tell your christian brothers in Congo to go it easy on the ladies in congo, it is very disgraceful, go advice the Catholic priest to go it easy on the boys, they are only kids, and finally try visiting Rwanda when your christian brothers shamed Africa by accomplishing the ignoble feat of killing close to a million (900, 000) in a very short span of time with very low tech implements (machetes) . . . I do not have time for you neither do I have time to engage abysmal display of intelligence . . . Which closes its eyes to suffering christians and bigotly chants rubbish when it sees the word muslims . . .if non of this makes sense take two sticks and make a crucifix, since that seems to be only what u are capable of understanding!

So the rapes in Somalia by muslim soldiers should be considered religious violence? http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2013/04/201341014264454936.html. Or are these rapes caused by Christians since that is your only defense?

For you to be objective and call a spade a spade, you deliberately look the other way when it comes to your religion.

So the moderator is hiding my post now . Haha