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[size=15pt]Ahmad Alimi and his fight with Usman dan Folio[/size]

Ahmad Alimi was the head of the kingdom of Bornu during the late eighteenth century and early nineteenth century. During the later part of his reign, the Fula people within his kingdom followed the call of rebellion and Jihad being led in the west by Uthman Dan Fodio. Alimi was perplexed by the uprising since Bornu was already an Islamic empire. He started a futile correspondence with Mohammed Bello and Uthman before finally leaving the throne to his son in 1808. By then he was fragile and blind. He died a few months later.

[size=15pt]Dunama IX Lefiami of borno[/size]

Dunama IX Lefiami was the leader of the Kanuri empire of Borno, located in what is now Niger, during the early nineteenth century. He was twice made ruler, first by his father and then by supporters loyal to him after he was deposed in 1809.

Life

Dunma succeeded his father, Ahmad Alimi, an old and fragile ruler who was constantly faced with attacks led by Uthman Dan Fodio, a Fulani warrior who was waging a Jihad west of Bornu. Dunama took on power in the midst of external challenges to the empire. To help secure Bornu, he invited an Islamic warrior and scholar, El Kanemi, who had success in battles with the Fulani. The two combined forces and restricted the expansion of the Fulani Jihad eastward. Dunama rewarded El Kanemi with innumerable gifts and titles. However, members of the empire's court who were weary about the circumstances of his ascension to the throne decided to depose him in 1809. Dunama's uncle Mohammed Ngileruma was made the new king. However, the new monarch refused to give due respect to El Kanemi and was finally deposed by El Kanemi and a few other supporters of Dunama IX Lefiami. By the time, El Kanemi had emerged the most powerful individual in the kingdom.

[size=15pt]Umar of Borno (died 1881) was Shehu (Sheik) of the Kanem-Bornu Empire and son of Muhammad al-Amin al-Kanemi.[/size]

Umar I ibn Muhammad al-Amin (Arabic: اولعمر ابن محمد لرشيد‎) or Umar of Borno (died 1881) was Shehu (Sheik) of the Kanem-Bornu Empire and son of Muhammad al-Amin al-Kanemi.


Reign of Umar

Umar came to power at the death of his father in 1837[1]. Umar did not match his father's vitality and gradually allowed the kingdom to be ruled by advisers (wazirs). Umar ruled from 1837 until November 1853 when he was deposed by his brother `Abd ar-Rahman ibn Muhammad al-Amin who became Shehu. The latter only reigned until 1854 when Umar reconquered his throne.[2]
Umar ruled as Shehu for a second time from September 1854 to 1880. Borno began to decline, as a result of administrative disorganization, regional particularism, and attacks by the militant Ouaddai Empire to the east. The decline continued under Umar's sons, and in 1893 Rabih az-Zubayr, leading an invading army from eastern Sudan, conquered Borno.

[size=15pt]Ashimi or Hashimi (1840s-1893) was Shehu of Borno from 1885 to 1893.[/size]

Ashimi became Shehu of Borno in 1885 at the death of his brother Ibrahim Kura. As it had already been the case for his two predecessors, his reign was marked by an intense political and economical crisis in Kukawa.[1]
In 1893, Ashimi lost two battles against Rabih az-Zubayr who was trying to invade Borno. His nephew Kyari, who was chosen to become the new Shehu, assassinated him in Maganwa.

[size=15pt]Kyari was Shehu of Borno in 1893.[/size]

Kyari became Shehu of Borno in 1893 when the country was invaded by Rabih az-Zubayr. One of his first acts was to kill his predecessor and uncle Ashimi of Borno.
He set to reconquer Kukawa already occupied by Rabih az-Zubayr but was captured during the battle. According to oral tradition, his last words for Rabih were
Tell this giant of a slave that if I had captured him I would not have asked him anything, I would have killed him on the spot. Let him not ask me any further questions. If he has anything to do, let him
Rabih had his cut throat on the spot.

[size=15pt] The great Muhammad al-Amin al-Kanemi of the kanuri people[/size]

Shehu al-Hajj Muhammad al-Amîn ibn Muhammad al-Kânemî (Arabic: محمد لرشيد ابن محمد الكامانی‎) (1776–1837) was an Islamic scholar, teacher, religious and political leader who advised and eventually supplanted the Sayfawa dynasty of the Kanem-Bornu Empire. In 1846, Al-Kanemi's son Umar I ibn Muhammad al-Amin became the sole ruler of Borno, an event which marked the end of the Sayfawa dynasty's eight hundred year rule. The current Shehu of Bornu, a traditional ruler whose seat remains in modern Borno State, Nigeria, is descended from Al-Kanemi.

Rise to power

Born to a Kanembu father and an Arab mother near Murzuk in what is today Libya, Al-Kanemi rose to prominence as a member of a rural religious community in the western provinces of what was then a much atrophied Borno Empire.[1] The Fulani jihadists, under Usman dan Fodio's banner tried to conquer Borno in 1808. They partly succeeded. They burnt the capital, N’Gazagarmo and defeated the main army of the mai of Borno. The latter called for the help of Al-Kanemi to repel his Fulani opponents.[2] By planning, inspiration, and prayer, he attracted a following, especially from Shuwa Arab networks and Kanembu communities extending far outside Borno's borders.[1] The mai (monarch), Dunama IX Lefiami rewarded the leader with control over a Bornu province on the Western march. Taking only the title "Shehu" ("Sheikh", and eschewing the traditional offices, al-Kanemi gathered a powerful following, becoming both the voice of Bornu in negotiations with Sokoto, as well as a semi independent ruler of a trade rich area with a powerful military. Dunama was deposed by his uncle in 1809, but the support of al-Kanemi brought him back to power in 1813.

Defense against Sokoto

Al Kanemi waged his war against Sokoto not only with weapons but also with letters as he desired to thwart dan Fodio’s jihad with the same ideological weapons.[2] He carried on a series of theological, legal and political debates by letter with the Sultan of Sokoto Usman dan Fodio, and later with his son, Muhammed Bello.[3] As the expansion of Sokoto was predicated upon a struggle against paganism, apostasy, and misrule, Al-Kanemi challenged the right of his neighbours to strike at a state which had been Muslim for at least 800 years.[4] These debates, often on the nature of Jihad and Muslim rule, remain points of contention in modern Nigeria.[5]

Rule over Borno



ElKanemi-1823-Reception of Denham and Clapperton, Kukawa, Borno State, Nigeria
When El-Kanemi rose to power after the Fulani jihad, he did not totally reorganise the Sayfawa kingdom: he only tried to insert his men in the existing framework of the Sayfawa territorial fiefs, the chima chidibe. Cohen argued that the main political organisation of nineteenth century Borno was based on personal relationship and that Al-Kanemi initiated a more formal patron-client relationship.

However, as Last mentioned, we still ignore to what extent Al-Kanemi was dominating the whole territory of Borno after the Fulani jihad. Was he only at the head of a personal principality as Last suggested, or did he totally overthrow the power of the mai? This process which may have been longer than Brenner suggested is not very well documented. Oral history and European explorers’ narratives only retain Al-Kanemi’s irresistible rise to power. In this version of early nineteenth century history, Al-Kanemi assumed power in the 1810s without any competition from mai Dunama IX Lefiami before 1820. El-Kanemi, not just the face of Borno to foreign leaders, became more and more indispensable to the mai. Some in mai Dunama's coterie were believed to have been behind an attempt to kill the Shehu in 1820. At this date, mai Dunama and king Burgomanda of Baguirmi plotted to get rid of El-Kanemi. This foreign intervention in Bornuese politics was a failure and mai Dunama was replaced by mai Ibrahim.[7] El-Kanemi, while still titular subject of the new mai, had his own seals struck as Shehu of all Bornu.[1] The Shehu had constructed in 1814 a power base at the new city of Kukawa. This new city became the de facto capital of Borno.
Sayfawa mais remained titular monarchs after El-Kameni's death in 1837.


Tomb of Muhammad al-Amin al-Kanemi, Kukawa, Borno State, Nigeria
In 1846 the last mai, in league with the Ouaddai Empire, precipitated a civil war, resisted by El-Kanemi's son, Umar (1837–1881). It was at that point that Umar became sole ruler, thus ending one of the longest dynastic reigns in African history.

Al-Kanemi as seen by Major Dixon Denham

In February 1823, a British expedition led by Major Dixon Denham and Captain Hugh Clapperton arrived in Borno. They were introduced to Al-Kanemi. In his travel narrative published in 1826, Dixon Denham described Al-Kanemi:
Nature has bestowed on him all the qualifications for a great commander; an enterprising genius, sound judgment, features engaging, with a demeanour gentle and conciliating: and so little of vanity was there mixed with his ambition, that he refused the offer of being made sultan

[size=15pt]Mai Sef (750 AD) the first king the borno kanuri empire king before the introduction of Islam[/size]

According to history Mai Sef was the first king of kanuri-borno empire. He was the son of Dhu Ifazan of Yemen, arrived in Kanem in the ninth century and united the population into the Sayfawa dynasty. This tradition however, is likely a product of later Islamic influence, reflecting the association with their Arabian origins in the Islamic era. Evidence of indigenous state formation in the Lake Chad area dates back to the early first century B.C. (ca. 800 B.C.) at Zilum.

[size=15pt]Hummay(1075) the man that introduced Islam to Kanem empire (kanuri) who was also the very first King of the Kanem empire [/size]

From about 1075 CE, Hummay (Humai ibn Salamna) was the mai (ruler) of the nomadic Sayfawa confederacy in central Chad, which was later to be known as the Kanem Empire. He is also considered by some historians to have been the true founder of the Sayfawa dynasty, that was to survive until 1846. His rule had important consequences because of his conversion to Islam. This provoked some dissension, causing the Zaghawa to break from the empire and move east.

[quote author=Kilode?! link=topic=675773.msg8412512#msg8412512 date=1306627701]^^ what about oral stories? it's allowed, it does not have to be written records, some of us want to know about our Kanuri people before their culture got influenced by Islam, if you can find please post.

Or ask your grandpa to tell you about them, then post it. [/quote]history have it that around the 11th century, some people from cairo who were muslims came to kanuri land(which covers chad, niger etc) and introduced Islam to kanuri people.

infact thanks, i will do research about it and give u more information

As Governor Babatunde Fashola of Lagos State takes his oath for another four-year term today, the state government has warned residents living along the Ogun-Osun River tributaries in the state to evacuate to avoid impending flooding during this year rainy season.

The state government also reiterated that residents living along Apapa-Oshodi expressway will continue to experience flooding all through the rainy season.

The Permanent Secretary, Office of Drainage, Ministry of Environment, Engr. Muyideen Akinsanya gave these warning yesterday, at a media briefing to sensitize the public on the effect of the rainy season in the state.

According to Akinsanya,the state will experience heavier rainfall this year and would result into flooding in many areas.

He continued: “According to the result released by the Nigerian Meteorological Agency (NIMET), rainfall is put at between 300-1100mm in the north and 1200-2700mm in the south.”

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/05/warning-alert-in-lagos-evacuate-heavy-floods-coming/

[quote author=Kilode?! link=topic=675773.msg8410571#msg8410571 date=1306600067]When did kanuris become muslim? when did Islam arrive in Kanuri-land or in the Bornu Area?[/quote]don't know, may be the same time it arrived in countries like libya etc

kanuri have been muslims ever since time can record

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very sad country

The Economic and Financial Crimes Commission will next week interrogate at least four outgoing governors over the alleged misappropriation of funds in their respective states during their tenure.


SATURDAY PUNCH’s countrywide investigations on Friday showed that the governors included Otunba Gbenga Daniel of Ogun State; Chief Adebayo Alao-Akala of Oyo State; Chief Ikedi Ohakim (Imo State); and Alhaji Ibrahim Shekarau (Kano State).


Daniel, and Shekarau, the presidential candidate of the All Nigeria Peoples Party in the April polls, were in charge of Ogun and Kano for eight years, while Alao-Akala and Ohakim were in charge of Oyo and Imo respectively for four years each.


It was gathered that although the EFCC had commenced investigations into the allegations against the governors, it could not move against them earlier than Monday because of the immunity clause in the Nigerian Constitution.


The constitution confers immunity on certain categories of elected officers. This shields them from prosecution while they are in office.


Section 308 of the 1999 Constitution provides immunity from court proceedings, that is, proceedings that will compel the attendance of elected executive officers, namely the President and his deputy and the governors of the states and their deputies.


This immunity extends to acts done in their official capacities so that they are not responsible for acts done on behalf of the state.


However, this immunity does not extend to acts done in abuse of the powers of their office of which they are liable upon the expiration of their tenure.


With the expiration of their tenure on Sunday, it was gathered that the EFCC had concluded arrangements to invite the nine governors next week.


SATURDAY PUNCH learnt that besides Daniel and Alao-Akala, other outgoing governors would be EFCC’s guests next week.


Sources close to the governors however stated that they would not run away because of the impending EFCC interrogation, as they knew that the judiciary would come to their aid.


A top official of the EFCC confirmed to SATURDAY PUNCH during the week that some governors would be invited to answer questions relating to graft next week.


“Some of the governors will certainly be our guests next week after they might have finished their terms of office on Sunday,” the official told SATURDAY PUNCH on the condition of anonymity because he said he didn’t want to jeopardise the ongoing investigations into the governors’ cases. “However, I’ll not be able to tell you the number and their names; I won’t say more than that but I know that some of them are coming over here.”


But SATURDAY PUNCH investigations showed that the anti-graft agency was probing Alao-Akala over alleged financial improprieties, particularly when he was governor after the impeachment of his former boss, Senator Rashidi Ladoja, as the Oyo State governor.


An EFCC source said the governor would be interrogated on various allegations raised by petitioners from the state, especially on the management of the Excess Crude Funds and state’s resources that amounted to about N8.2bn.


Apart from the governor, several of his aides, particularly the commissioners who served with him, would also be quizzed.





Alao-Akala is expected to provide explanations on the award of a contract on the publication of some books, as well as allegations of sundry internal corruption in his administration.


In the case of Daniel, he is being investigated for the alleged mismanagement and illegal deduction of local government funds.


In a petition submitted to the EFCC by a former chairman of the Ijebu-East Local Government Area, Mr. Tunde Oladunjoye, Daniel is alleged to have made illegal deductions from council funds that had crippled the activities of LG administration in the state.


Oladunjoye was the running mate to the Peoples Democratic Party governorship candidate in the April election, Brig.-Gen. Tunji Olurin (retd.).





The petition reads in part, “In June 2009, many local government chairmen wrote to the governor, asking him to pay the exact amount of their respective teachers’ salaries instead of the overbearing deductions on the pretext of teachers’ salaries.


“Worse still, the governor started giving equal allocations to the local government councils since November 2009, even when our allocations from FAAC are not equal.”


The governor had on Wednesday put the debt profile of the state at N49.2bn, which he said included cash liabilities of N26.4bn and contingent liabilities of N22.7bn.


Details of the petitions against Ohakim were not available at press time, but our correspondent gathered that the outgoing governor of Imo State would answer questions on contracts awarded by his administration.


Sources familiar with the massive investigations said, “Some of the former governors would be walking into Kirikiri (Prisons) soon to serve as a deterrent to their successors, who would be inaugurated on Sunday.”


A former Enugu State governor, Dr. Chimaroke Nnamani, appeared in court last Thursday over fresh allegations of fraud against him.


EFCC’s Head of Media and Publicity, Mr. Femi Babafemi confirmed that Nnamani was in custody at the commission’s headquarters, where he was being interrogated.


As for Daniel, Alao-Akala and five others, Babafemi said the new week would tell.


“Let’s wait till then please,” he replied in response to inquiries from SATURDAY PUNCH.


The EFCC said the latest set of governors were different from former governors, who already had pending cases against them.


The outgoing governors will join a growing list of past chief executives of the states who are being prosecuted for the financial crimes they committed while they were in office.


A former Ekiti State governor, Mr. Ayo Fayose, is facing corruption charges by the EFCC. Fayose, who was governor of Ekiti State from 2003 to 2006 before he was impeached, is facing a 51-count charge of corruption and embezzlement of N1.2bn of state funds at a Lagos High Court.


Fayose lost his bid to get into the Senate in the April elections.





The EFCC had listed him as well as seven other former governors in an advisory to the public on former governors facing corruption charges that were running for new political positions.


A former governor of Taraba State, Rev. Jolly Nyame, is facing allegations of embezzling N1.3bn of state funds.


The ex-governor is facing a 41-count charge of corruption and embezzlement. Nyame was defeated in his bid to return to power under the umbrella of the Action Congress of Nigeria.


A former governor of Sokoto State, Attahiru Bafarawa, and a presidential aspirant of the ACN, is facing prosecution by the EFCC on a 47-count charge of embezzling N15bn.


Joshua Dariye, who was a former governor of Plateau State, is listed in the EFCC advisory of former political office holders who have cases to answer.


Dariye is facing charges of stealing N700m of state funds. He lost his bid to represent the state in the Senate under the umbrella of the Labour Party.


His counterpart in Jigawa State, Alhaji Saminu Turaki, is also facing allegations of embezzling state funds to the tune of N36bn. Turaki, who represents Jigawa North-West in the Senate lost his re-election bid last April.


A former governor of Adamawa State, Alhaji Boni Haruna, like his colleagues, is being prosecuted by the EFCC for an alleged embezzlement of N250m.


The long list of former governors whose cases are in the court include James Ibori of Delta State and Lucky Igbinedion of Edo State.


Igbinedion is facing a 66-count charge of money laundering and illegal diversion of public funds amounting to about N3.2bn for personal use.


Although the commission has instituted cases against the former governors, no conviction has been obtained in any of them.


The outgoing governors, while reacting to the impending interrogation by the commission, said they were not nursing any fear.





The outgoing governor of Oyo State – Alao-Akala – said that he was not afraid of the EFCC or any other anti-graft agency.


He said that throughout his tenure, he ruled the state with the fear of God and he would not entertain any fear.


He made his position known recently while receiving a delegation of the state council of the Nigeria Union of Journalists led by its chairman, Mr. Gbenga Opadotun, who paid him a farewell visit in his office in Ibadan, the state capital.


He said, “Because I know that I don’t have any skeleton in my cupboard, I’m not afraid of investigations by the EFCC. I did not get myself involved in any shady deal because I have a name to protect. My name is an asset. It is good that I leave a good name for my children who will like to use the name in future. I won’t do anything that will tarnish the name.


“When I read a media report that I was being investigated over an N8bn deal, I laughed because such money will just make me mad.”





His Kano State counterpart, Mallam Ibrahim Shekarau, said that he was ready to honour an invitation from the EFCC to answer allegations of corruption charges against his administration.


Shekarau, who responded through his Special Assistant, Media and Public Relations, Mallam Sule Yau Sule, in a telephone interview with SATURDAY PUNCH, dismissed the planned invitation as speculations.


Sule said that his principal was not afraid to answer charges of corruption allegation against him or his government, recalling that this would not be the first time baseless allegations of corruption had been levelled against him.


He stated, “You know that this is not the first time His Excellency will be slandered with allegation charges and he has always weathered the storm. Before the 2007 general elections, he was invited for questioning by the EFCC on allegations of corruption. The opposition did this just to stop him from gunning for a second term. He went to Abuja to answer the charges and was cleared, and he won his second term bid. So, we’re used to all this.”


Sule said Shekarau offered a transparent and accountable leadership to Kano people and had completed his tenure.





Ogun State Governor, Daniel, expressed his readiness to face the anti-corruption agencies – the EFCC and the Independent Corrupt Practices Commission – if and when invited.


Daniel, who responded to SATURDAY PUNCH enquiries in a telephone interview through the Ogun State Commissioner for Information and Orientation, Mr. Sina Kawonise, stated his preparedness to face the agencies if the need arose.


“(Otunba Gbenga) Daniel has ruled the state with honesty and forthrightness in the last eight years. So, he has no skeleton in his cupboard. As a public office holder, he is not ignorant of the fact that at any point in time, one may be called upon for one questioning or the other.


“So, as the servant of the people, he is ever ready when such invitations become necessary, as he has served the state with honesty, diligence, prudence and to the best of his ability.”


He stated that as part of the effort of the administration at ensuring financial probity, the state governor had ensured the preparation of the state financial accounts in the last eight years.


“The governor has even directed that as many copies of the statement of accounts as possible should be printed so that everybody can have a copy and even urged that the copies should be distributed to EFCC, ICPC and other relevant agencies,” Kawonise said.





When contacted, the Imo State governor said he was not aware of any EFCC invitation.


Ohakim, who responded through his Chief Press Secretary, Mr. Henry Eke, told SATURDAY PUNCH on the telephone on Thursday that the report was a mere speculation.


“I’m not aware of that (the invitation). I have not been invited. However, when we get to the bridge, we will cross it,” the governor said.

http://www.punchng.com/Articl.aspx?theartic=Art20110528354348

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^^^^^^^

thank u

you've said it all

Dede1:
@OP

The adoption of Hausa language by a London retailer should not be surprise to any sound thinking Nigerian. The British people are not silly as they actually knew which ethnic group or related ethnic groups which had looted and continue to loot Nigeria bare.

u are an iddeiot

u know that right

[quote author=dem_people link=topic=677694.msg8411929#msg8411929 date=1306618165]When u say NE, I'm sure you meant Chad Bornu.

And what do u mean by Chime and Amaechi "making it right" before 2015? Surely, both are performers. Even Obi is a performer despite the meagre state allocation he has to contend with and, being in another party. If Chime and Obi have the sort of resources at the disposal of Fashola, they would have equally performed on his scale.

Concerning your earlier thread, I think you made your state of mind clear concerning Ndigbo and not to shut whoever up, like you're insinuating here.[/quote]chime and amaechi are performing quite alright but amaechi is collecting much more funds than fashola because he is in a nigerdelta state(which mean extra allocations)

same goes for obi, infact obi has estates in lagos which i know of

the same estate money which was the money gotten from abians, he is using to build more estates and houses in lagos, thus generating more revenue for another state lagos stu.pid innit

infact he (peter obi) is so stup.id that after stealling money from his state and literally giving it to another state, he later insulted ngige for supporting acn, how da.ft is that now

you see my friend, chime and obi have a lot of money given to them

to be honest i think the north and the south west are the least in allocations given from the FG

the ss states gets the most,(niger-delta fg allocations, oil companies tax, etc)

followed by the se, ( oil companies, compensation of biafra war, etc)

lagos DOES NOT COLLECT MONEY FROM THE FG the last time i checked

lagos gets his money from tax and that is all

[quote author=[WilyWily link=topic=676117.msg8408198#msg8408198 date=1306566093]Impregnating of Mad Women by Yorubamen is a National issue, the rate in which they are doing it is alarming
See how Silly Yorubamen are, how can they believed impregnating a Mad Women is an easy way of becoming Rich quick.[/quote]eti eti efik girl unless u are ibo

how them impregnating a mad woman affect u

is a mad woman not human again

at this rate i think u will marry or have sex with a mad man, i know

remember ur mother that was in abia back in 1970's we sure had fun

where is ur mother now, or is she still married to that unless man that can't feed his family or afford a house

why are u living in ur grand father's house, pretty sad

give this message to ur mother for me

tell here i can forgive here if she agrees to s.uck my di.ck for 1 week

then give u (because u are a bas.stard and u can not be in my house) to charity as a free house maid

wily wily don't forget to deliever this message

infact give me her number now, so i can do it myself

Calculia:
@ bk.babe97y, if u can't stand the heat get the fuxck out of the kitchen, this is my word of advice to you. 

ezeuche

[quote author=dem_people link=topic=677694.msg8411373#msg8411373 date=1306611087]Maybe the fear of Ndigbo is the beginning of wisdom.   (Let me paraphrase your other thread).

But jokes apart, listen here, we'll all depart this world at some point. While we're still here, we should all pray for a credible person to lead the country irrespective of the person's ethnicity. Any progressive mind will want the best for his/her wellbeing. If an Igboman happens to fill that void then, so be it.[/quote]yes, now u talking

now, my zone is the NE of nigeria

i voted for a NW person in the last election

the previous one before that, I voted a NW and SE vp

come 2015 the only person i can see right now is fashola SW person

all this people are not from the NE my zone.

I see chime or rotimi ameche next but they need to make it right this time before 2015

concerning leaders, i ALWAYS MAKE SURE I AM NOT VOTING ALONG ETHNIC SENTIMENT

concerning my thread earlier, i did it to shut those people that said north will not rule again

so sorry about any misunderstanding

to where ?

ak47mann:
that is full of bull poo i can say the same thing about others i myself have encounter tribalism from hausa and Yoruba so don't tell me rubbish my brother experience hatred from Yorubas and my older brother encounter tribalism from an hausa man in Japan when he was there studying (BA) if you want i can brake the story down for you what they experienced from those two tribes

i guess u can say so each group can be bad at times

but most people have experienced tribalism from majority of igbo people

not because i am more inclined to the north but because i have done a general survey

at the end of the day, it all depends on individual views

Eko Ile:
Instead of of your exaggeration talk, why don't just prove me wrong that the Foreign Press is not talking about him and diplomats and foreign leaders are not talking about him and singing his praise.

2015 is just talk, it's up to Fashola to decide.

yeah its up to him
[quote author=dem_people link=topic=677694.msg8411271#msg8411271 date=1306609926]Do I sense a fear of Ndigbo here? We'll see how that goes. Fashola is a good candidate and I'll support him if there isn't any other more credible candidate.

BTW, stop quoting our Creator disrespectfully when you want to put your points across.[/quote]what fear are u talking about again

fear of ndigbo for what na, why should i be fearful of ndigbo

moreover which other candidate, please kindly share the name with me

BTW, WHERE DID I QUOTE THE CREATOR, all i said was "fashola 2015 or no other , by the grace of God(insha Allah)"

please don't quote if u are not sure of the information being passed across

Eko Ile:
This is very puzzling, these world leaders obviously sabi something we don't, they've been vising Fashola left and right lately.

The Foreign Press are talking about him, diplomats and world leaders are visiting and singing his praise.

Sometimes it feels like Fashola is the president of Nigeria.

man u are exaggeration

but 2015 it is fashola for president or no other Insha Allah

ak47mann:
you want to know this is from you down below,





i have met quite a few and i know their views

some of them are very cool

some of them are just terrible .,, more like animals like hausa boko harams

and so u don't believe that those igbos that hate people because of their ethnic group (ewu awusa, Yoruba man, Yoruba, ijaws lazy etc) are not animals

mind u , i did not generalise

majority of igbos are very tribalistic and ethnocentric . i know because i have spent some years in anambra

the same can not be said about the hausa/fulani, kanuri, yoruba, or igala/ijaw

why is that the case

ak47mann:
look at them foo-ls talking about igbos like igbos owns your father any thing bloody BAD BLOOD PEOPLE
ALJ harem you claim igbo 2day 2 Moro u claim Yoruba with half kanuri i tire for you. bleep-ing  aboki baboon
with this chicken change Yorubas are screaming off thier heads One question do you monkeys know that a lot of wealthy igbo s which i know one person from my town i will not name him gave Jonathan N500.000000 on his presidential campaign self made wealthy igbo s sponsors Jonathan campaign too. Better do your investigation very well  

how does this relates to me

mbatuku2:
The southern Kaduna christians seem to have perfected the act of keeping the islamists in check in northern Nigeria. I've met with a couple of these 'kaje' guys. They appear naturally stubborn and tough.

The beroms have also started to learn the ropes gradually.

stop talking like an a55 what do u mean

[quote author=bk.babe97y link=topic=676435.msg8411058#msg8411058 date=1306606807]Seriously, Ibos are the most bigoted people I've ever encountered in my life; even in religion. I bet you never met a Ibo Christian before. Ask him why he hates Muslims and he can never give you a proper answer![/quote]i have met quite a few and i know their views

some of them are very cool

some of them are just terrible .,, more like animals

so southern cameroun was part of nigeria and those people tried to dominate them. smh

yet they will be shouting tribalism when themselves are very tribal in views

auwal

good one

PapaBrowne:
Very interesting!! All the international media I've read- WSJ, Economist, Bloomberg, Time, are so optimistic after what they term "the best election" Nigeria has witnessed. Yet some people wanted us to believe that we had flawed elections!!!

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Ohanaeze Ndigbo did not support Dr. Goodluck Jonathan’s presidential bid in order that the Igbo would be rewarded with the position of Speaker of the Federal House of Representatives. All those commentators claiming that both Ohanaeze and President Jonathan have betrayed Ndigbo will do well to get their bearing right.

It is often said that those who miss a burial will start exhuming the corpse foot first, which is abominable in the Igbo world view. Unfortunately, the Igbo jeremiad on the “missed” position of Speakership hasn’t come from those unaware of what went on; it is simply the noisy dissembling of the tiny fringe that got told, in effect, to shut up in the matter of which candidate Ndigbo must support for the presidency. We cannot allow this unpatriotic fringe to continue playing spoiler.

Witness: In arguing for Ndigbo to support Jonathan’s presidential bid, Ohanaeze Ndigbo articulated its position in the clearest of terms. The umbrella body of the Igbo in Nigeria and in the Diaspora took out copious adverts in the media to make its point. To cite two instances, page 21 of Saturday Champion of October 23, 2010, and page 23 of the Daily Sun of Monday, October 25, 2010; carried the Ohanaeze Ndigbo advert entitled Presidential Election And zoning: The Position Of Ohanaeze Ndigbo.

Signed by the organization’s President-General, Ambassador Raph Uwechue, the 4th and last paragraph of the advert stated as follows: “Ohanaeze Ndigbo firmly believes in the reality and absolute equality of the six zones and holds the view that the topmost executive office in the land – Prime Minister or President – which has eluded the two geopolitical zones of the South-South and South-East since the birth of our nation half a century ago, should now go to them in turn in unbroken succession as a matter of national priority, before any other zone can justly claim the right to a second or third turn.

In line with this position, taken after wide consultation over several months, among Igbo people at home and abroad, Ohanaeze Ndigbo confidently urges the Igbo Nation to support en masse a credible, new-generation Presidential candidate that has emerged from the South-South geo-political zone, Dr. Goodluck Ebele Azikiwe Jonathan.”

Thus, when an Igbo journalist or an Igbo political leader discounts the above and goes singing the jaded song of “betrayal”, it is obvious that insincerity is writ large.

Ohanaeze Ndigbo did not tell the Igbo to support President Jonathan so as to get one of their own put up as House Speaker. What Ohanaeze Ndigbo said was and is this clear: Ndigbo will support the South-South in the “credible, newgeneration Presidential candidate that has emerged from the geo-political zone, Dr. Goodluck Ebele Azikiwe Jonathan”, so that the presidency will thereafter go to the South-East “in unbroken succession as a matter of national priority, before any other zone can justly claim the right to a second or third turn.”

When Ohanaeze Ndigbo articulated this position, it drew the ire of an amorphous society dubbed the Igbo Political forum or IPF which plastered the media with negative, but ultimately, ineffective propaganda against the umbrella body of the Igbo ethnic group. The IPF was non-existent until the run-up to the presidential election.

As a body, the IPF is not known to have held another meeting or taken any position on anything since the landmark ballot. But elements of the body are clearly behind the current campaign to tar Ohanaeze Ndigbo with the brush of betrayal on account of a mere legislative office. When looked at critically the IPF covets the same goal as the Ohanaeze Ndigbo to wit: the emergence of a President of Nigeria from the South-East geopolitical zone in 2015.

The IPF is peopled by politicians who claimed that Atiku or Babangida or Buhari or Ribadu will serve a single presidential term and hand over power to an Igbo successor in 2015. On the contrary, Ohanaeze Ndigbo convinced the Igbo to take the Jonathan route to 2015. With Jonathan’s electoral victory, he is the only route to the Igbo dream of 2015. When people who should pursue this dream choose, instead, to lament a phantom betrayal, it amounts to chasing rats when the homestead is on fire. Therefore, a stop should be put to the ongoing media diatribe against the Ohanaeze Ndigbo.

Key point: Igbo unity is preferable than their being fractious but producing Nigeria’s President. Yet, Ndigbo disunited can never make the presidency. As I said in a previous article, “All the wailing and lamentation regarding a ‘missed’ position of House Speaker should cease.

The cynosure of all eyes should not dab their face in charcoal. Ndigbo should rather concentrate on those issues that belong to their eventual escape from the status of second class citizenship. This habit of appropriating the media to hector and holler at the drop of every hat, this shouting from the rooftops every twinkle of an eye cannot solve a thing.” The Promise Of 2015 will succeed only if Ndigbo present a united front. The time is ripe to solidify the previously shattered but now re-engineered and rejuvenated esprit de corps between the South-East and the South-East. The time is ripe for the buried bones of the handshake across the Niger rise again and shine.

The time is ripe to look northwards, to explain that what Ndigbo seek can be wrapped up in three ideals: justice, equity and fair play.
The Nigeria of today should have no problems with the theme of justice. If Barrack Obama, whose father was Kenyan, can become the President of the United States of America, only bigots can still insist that the idea of an Igbo president of Nigeria in 2015 is insufferable.

Ndigbo fought for this country’s independence. Ndigbo fought to build up this country. Ndigbo have always been active participants in all positive aspects of Nigeria’s development, except at the apex of its leadership, where they have deliberately been kept out by prejudicial considerations. Therefore, Ndigbo have got to enjoy all the rights and privileges attendant to Nigerian citizenship. But Ndigbo must be united. Once all concerned appreciate and respect this imperative, the groundswell for justice in the matter of an Igbo president of Nigeria will gain ascendancy.

The late nationalist, Chief Anthony Enahoro, a Deltan, supported the idea of an Igbo President of Nigeria. (See the New Age newspaper of November 2, 2004.) The late Alhaji Wada Nas, a former Federal Minister from the north, supported the idea of an Igbo President of Nigeria.

(See the Vanguard newspaper of Monday July 12, 2004.) General Yakubu Gowon, a former Nigerian Head of State, supports the idea of an Igbo President of Nigeria. (See the Daily Champion newspaper of November 3, 2004.) Dr. Frederick Fasehun, the leader of the Oodua Peoples’ Congress (OPC), supports the idea of an Igbo President of Nigeria. (See the Daily Champion of Monday July 26, 2004.) Most importantly, the new generation of Nigerians, those who trooped out in the millions to elect Goodluck Jonathan Nigeria’s President, are irreversibly free from the shackles of prejudice and political bigotry. All this means one thing: If Ndigbo get their act together, the Promise of 2015 will be redeemed.
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/05/ndigbo-and-the-promise-of-2015/